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Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 8:22am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:look, these whole thing is logical beyond what you think, and it is also simple to understand. We are not saying anyone should go and sin. All we are saying is, separate the message of salvation from teaching people not to sin. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Keeping the law and justification to salvation isn't the same thing and they have no bearing or relationship with one another. Put it this way, they exist and function independently of one another |
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 3:37am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Obviously, those of you that do not believe that believing in Christ alone guarantee the kingdom, lack the ability to understand the bible in that aspect. Yet you are the once preaching the most Boomark:it is not wrong, it is the gospel truth. As a matter of fact, the other gospel that teaches sinlessness in addition to believing, is the wrong gospel. It is either Christ alone or sinlessness alone. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. There is nothing like when you believe, in addition you must ask for forgiveness of sin and stop committing sin. Where then is the Grace we are talking about in Christ if that is so? Though, it appears that this is condoning sin, but it is not. Rather, it gives one the assurance of salvation even when you sin. Ok, another question i will ask you : Are you living a sinless life as a Christian? Be sincere to yourself because the original post is lie on it's own. How can yiu say many women will go to hell fire simply because they commit sin, do you understand what you post at all? Many women will go to hellfire simply because they didn't believe in Christ, that is what you should say. John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: The only condition for the Israelites to be saved in the wildness was them to lift up their eyes and look on the serpent lifted up by Moses. That's the only thing and nothing else Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Romans 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Romams 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Just believing only, that's all. Your belief is counted as righteousness did i defend this? I didn't say or defend this o, please read all what i have been saying. what you don't like is to calm down and look at it critically |
Religion / Re: If GOD asks me to sell my properties and follow HIM by paxonel(m): 3:17am On Dec 09, 2023 |
OpenYourEyes1:thank God you know that such thing is wild imagination, and it can never happen this dispensation |
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 4:06pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
Boomark:that the summary contradicts 1 John 1:8 ? i didn't say so Explain yourself you have not done any justice, you end up mixing up things. The scripture is very straightforward 1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. Matthew 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. In the context of this scripture, walking in darkness means "to say we have no sin ". It means to deny our natural nature of sin. Working in darkness in this scripture does not mean working in Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, etc mentioned in Galatians 5:21 Working in darkness means not being truthful to ourselves that we commit these sins due to our natural body. And because we commit these sins, therefore it was necessary for Christ to come and cleans us. 1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. As a matter of fact, we make Christ a liar for dying on the cross for us. In orherwords, we are saying that what he did on the cross is not useful. Now, i ask the question again. Are you trying to say that this scripture contradicts Galatians 5:21 that end up saying. I quote ..they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.? Are you saying that Galatians 5:21 is making Christ a liar? Because, from 1 John 1:10 everyone have sinned. If that be so, everyone have done such things mentioned in Galatians 5:21 and shall not inherit the kingdom of God, making what Christ did on the cross a futile attempt and a lie Explain yourself |
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 5:42am On Dec 05, 2023 |
Boomark:wrong! You know, There is no way you can explain a single scripture of the bible in isolation. Every scriptures have references to another scriptures, that's the only way we can get the true explanation. According to you, those who are crucified in the flesh don't engage in the acts mentioned in Galatians 5:21 But 1 John 1:8 says, and i quote : If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Are you trying to say that 1 John 1:8 contradicts Galatians 5:21 ? Hence, you are saying that the bible is a contradiction of itself? Explain yourself |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 10:48am On Dec 04, 2023 |
Techobeys:I was terribly confused as well,until i began to be objective. Then i start to understand what the religion is truly driving at. The truth is, billions of Christians are reading the bible, yet they cannot see beyond the letters to understand what is there This explains why religionists are so vulnerable intellectually. Not that the bible wasn't intelligently written like I have explained, certain parts of the bible(including the book of revelation were metaphorically written. Jesus parables falls into that category. Some of the metaphors were outrightly interpreted. Examples are the parable of the mustard seed which was iliterally nterpreted as thus: Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; Take note of how the interpretation was done : The field is this The good seed is that It's simple to understand. But meanwhile, there are vast metaphors like this in the bible that was never interpreted. Examples are metaphors found in the book of revelation such as Revelation 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. The beast, the seal, and others such as black horse, wild insects, mark 666 etc, all represents something in the literal or real sense which were never interpreted. But when you have read the bible from Genesis to revelation, you will have a full understanding of what those animations or objects represents literally. The point is, it is far better to have the literal understanding and apply them to our president real world. The bible was written for us to understand, we were not created for the bible to confuse us. So, if you come across anything in the bible like Satan falling from the sky or any fictional events. Look for how that Satan or event is applied to reality. There is nothing like Satan or devil in the real sense. Whatever happens to us is a function of the decisions we have taken in the past |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 11:25pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Techobeys:OK, Do you have any basic knowledge about the bible, concerning Jesus Christ and his resurrection or anything at all? For instance, Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. You can give me a brief of what you know about this scripture?, so that i will know where to fit in. Because,this whole thing I'm trying to explain to you is like a curriculum of some sort |
Politics / Re: Cost Of Living In Nigeria Is Cheaper Than UK Or US by paxonel(m): 10:11pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
psalmsjob:minimum wage in Nigeria is approximately N30,000 which is £30 And you just said you can earn £10 in one hour in the UK. Do you see the difference now? Please, is there any job in the UK that you will be paid £30 once in a month? Who has ever survived in the UK with that kind of condition? Reason it now 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 9:18pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Techobeys:ohh! Sorry, I thought you have read something atleast, in the bible before You just want a little understanding of the bible write your book? |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 5:36pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Techobeys:No, Rather, heaven is new covenant Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved?(enter the new covenant) And he said unto them, Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up,... The resurrection of Christ marks the entrance or gate of Giod's kingdom. It is what separates the new covenant from the old covenant |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 12:43pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Techobeys:the term fall from heaven was spoken metaphorically. It will take you to consider everything that happened during Jesus time on earth to understand that. That also mean, you will need to sit down and read the whole story. In the nutshell, the term fall from heaven does not implies anything falling from the sky. Rather, it literally implies the old covenant falling way, and paving way for the new covenant to be established. And the gospel of the kingdom which is the new covenant was the centre point of Jesus preaching that was assigned to his disciples at that time 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Will A Sinner Who Pays Tithe Make Heaven? by paxonel(m): 11:35am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Boomark:You didn't complete this. You ignored verse.24 Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts You don't understand? For those that are in Christ, all these their witchcraft, impunity, hatred, jealousy etc have been crucified in the flesh, giving them a new spirit which is that of God Therefore the advice in verse 25 Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. There is no way you can substitute or combine Christ with your ability to live righteously. What Christ did on the Cross, is unique for your salvation and there is nothing else that you will do that will offer that salvation to you order than Christ You can't even live righteously in the first place 1 John 1:8 if we say we do not commit sin, then we lie and deceive ourselves warn for saying the truth? |
Religion / Re: Signs You Are Attending A Dead Or Dying Church by paxonel(m): 9:42am On Dec 03, 2023 |
cutecommend:it is a lie my brother. The truth is, God is everywhere. Psalms 24:1 The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. |
Religion / Re: Will A Sinner Who Pays Tithe Make Heaven? by paxonel(m): 9:37am On Dec 03, 2023 |
jesusjnr2020:heaven has nothing to do with tithe and sin. Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world... In otherwords, so long the sinner is a believer, heaven is sure for him |
Religion / Re: What Language Did Adam And Eve Speak? by paxonel(m): 9:18am On Dec 03, 2023 |
From the time of Adam and Eve till now, various languages had gone into extinction, how will you possibly now know which language Adam and Eve spoke?
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Religion / Re: Signs You Are Attending A Dead Or Dying Church by paxonel(m): 7:50am On Dec 03, 2023 |
cutecommend:lies |
Religion / Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by paxonel(m): 6:10am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Explore2xmore:they only appears, There is no such verse in the bible then after judgement what happens? Reincarnation! 1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? This means that the dead are always coming back, but with a different body. So, there is reincarnation obviously, Elijah came back with a different body. This time, in the person of John the baptist 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 5:30am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Techobeys:satan,in the context of that scripture refers to antagonistic religions(later referred to as the Antichrist) that were against the death and resurrection of Christ. Remember, he sent his disciples to go and preach and convert people from these religions. At the point the disciples came back rejoicing because they were converting souls to believe in Christ, that was when Jesus made the statement, i saw Satan falling... Meaning, other religions were falling. Examples of such religions were the Pharisees who never believed that Jesus was the Christ. And the Saducees who never believed in resurrection of the dead. This also is in line with Daniels vision. If you have read the book of Daniel about the statue Neduccadnezar fore saw, that a tiny stone(representing Jesus Christ) erupted among the segments(representing other religions). That the tiny stone struck the whole statue, such that they were carried away by the wind, and the stone grow to become a great mountain. Jesus explains that his kingdom like a mustard seed will grow to become a great tree such that fowls of the air from various places will come and take refuge on it There is nothing prophetic there and all these have nothing to do with the future, they are events that occurred at the time Jesus was about to be crucified 2000 years ago as stated in the bible |
Religion / Re: Hell Fire Is Not Logical by paxonel(m): 4:00pm On Dec 02, 2023 |
Any school of thought that is not logical is a scam gameova:blame it to dogmatism. The hell fire doctrine was put foward to check immorality. Not necessarily to make sense |
Religion / Re: CAC Pastors : Real Or Fake by paxonel(m): 6:19pm On Nov 26, 2023 |
Yemike:like, is this the only thing you can say to defend syncretism? Ok, how about the bible. Is there any scripture that Paul the apostle or Peter or any biblical believer who had used symbolic items like pomade, powder, water, candle, etc to pray? You can educate us here, Because, in reality these things have failed to work. Also,no traditional babalawo charms have ever proven to work for the records, otherwise yahoo boys will be known to be the richest in society |
Religion / Re: CAC Pastors : Real Or Fake by paxonel(m): 11:19am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Yemike:no! I'm not fighting the church. If you want to defend falsehood, then you must be prepared to explain yourself. In 2019 when covid-19 was ravaging the public such that, everyone including all the babalawos and ifa priests went into lockdown, where was CAC prayers and holy waters? You people have learnt nothing? The people simply allow the memories to die down. Now, they have started manifesting again, and you people have forgotten so soon? Now, go and Google it and get informed. SYNCRETISM OF TRADITION AND CHRISTIANITY it is the most toxic element that can ever manipulate the brain and can never be compatible with the bible. Infact, another researcher put it this way. The mainline conservatives in Christianity always conceive syncretism as a practice which contaminates or dilutes Christian religion with elements that are incompatible with the gospel. |
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 6:56am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Kepukepu:I didn't ask for definition of dogma. Your definition of Faith as the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”isn't a reference from any dictionary . Or do you have any dictionary that said so? Post it here certainly! Religion attract least thinkers. So is atheism too! |
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 1:41am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Kepukepu:no! Not all religion are based on dogma. Christianity isn't based on dogma. And by the way, who defined Faith this wsy for you? |
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 12:56am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Boomark:you didn't see that in Revelation 21:8. You failed to start from verse 7 that says he that overcometh all things... And also, take note of verse 7 that says THE FESRFUL AND THE UNBELIEVING. This means, those that overcome all things refers to BELIEVERS. Because with God, they can never be abominable or woremongers or soccerers. They were washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb the essence of you preaching should be converting unbelievers(example Muslims, not Christians) to become believers of Christ. Any exercise you do outside this is waste of time. I didn't see where Paul said he preached openly to everyone.. Anytime Paul preached, he targeted unbelievers to win them for Christ. He only addresses fellow Christians most times in letters like the one you just mentioned, encouraging them to remain in the faith and stay away from sin or repent, but never did he preached the same sermon of salvation he preached to unbelievers with them. he is simply saying those who do not accept Christ are in the flesh, compared to those who accept Christ that they are in the spirit. And the fruits of the spirit are love, joy peace, long-suffering, goodness, etc And as such, since they are in the spirit, these works of the flesh does not manifest in them in the spirit. Though in the flesh, they might still be making mistakes, because truly, no one is perfect . But in the sporit they are justified with Christ. You know what it means to be justified? It's like you were guilty of sin, but the judge declared you innocent for free. You didn't deserve it. Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Then he gave me advice in verse 25 Galatoans 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. It was an advice to Christians. It wasn't a judgement It wasn't as if he they had chosen to do otherwise, they will lose their salvation. It was a clear case that karma will also befall them like the unbelievers if they don't repent too. And he concluded by saying. Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Meaning, Christians have crucified all the woremonging, adultery, fornication, lying etc that they do in their flesh, and are presented before God in spirit as justified people. Paul never judged people the way you are judging people into hell now. Even when he preached to unbelievers(,when i say unbelievers, you should know what i mean by now) he never condemned them to hell like you are doing. Your hypocrisy is, have you ever approached a Muslim and tell him you will go to hell fire? Never! BUT WHEN YOU SEE A FELLOW CHRISTIAN YOU WILL START SHOUTING, HELL FIRE, HELL FIRE! are you doubting that God's kingdom is on this earth? You know, some of my teacher friends will say my reward is in heaven, i will just laugh at their mumu.
no! It is your own that is not scriptural. It is not even realistic. It is not applicable to reality. By extension, you make yourself a reproach, and people will simply repel you. At that point you will think that the whole world is bad. Meanwhile, you are the one making yourself to be like that . In the Islamic world, you also have people misunderstanding their Quran, and they will behave unreasonably like that. They are usually called terrorists or fundermentalists. PLEASE DON'T BE A CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST did you even read my response towards that at all? These churches had left their Faith(revelation used FIRST LOVE). They had stoped believing in Christ and were already into idolatry, that's why Paul rebuked them. A situation where a whole church today will leave Christ and be doing Islam inside church isn't possible today. Ah! The building is church. But when you go inside, it is Mohammed they are preaching. Have you ever seen anything like that before? You can't read the difference? That was the similar situation John in Revelation, and Paul saw at Ephesus and other churches that made them to be mad |
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 10:00am On Nov 25, 2023 |
Kepukepu:are the religious tenets afraid of being questioned? Because, me i believe. And critical thinking and logic have helped convinced me to believe. |
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 5:49am On Nov 24, 2023 |
Boomark:what I'm explaining to you requires your intellect to understand. You see this Christianity we are practicing today in Africa? Europe that imported the religion to Africa don't do what we Africans are doing here. They practice the same Christianity intelligently, that's why their lives are note better than Africans today.. Two major answers to your questions you should go and think over is : 1. At the time of Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus was not yet crucified. Hence there were no Christians then. So i don't know where you get the idea that Matthew 7;21-23 was referring to Christians. 2. You don't need the bible to tell you that anyone who commit sin, Christian or no Christian, will face the consequences of their actions here on earth. A scripture quoted God saying i will visit the sins of the fathers to the third and forth generation. It is in this world that all these things can happen. And Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world. I don't think you go about tagging everyone who commit sin as candidates of hell. I mean, if you identify a Christian who is a chronic sinner and you go to his house and start shouting, you will go to hell fire. He has the right to throw you out of his house and there is nothing you can do about it. So, anything that has to do with heaven or hell, you are not the one to judge. You can only leave the judgement for God to do because you didn't create one soul, or do you? |
Religion / Re: Is There Hope Of Redemption For This Generation??? by paxonel(m): 6:45am On Nov 20, 2023 |
what you are complaining isn't what is obtain able in developed societies. What has happened in Africa over the years is that, our schools that was suppose to educate the population have failed us. Consequently, The church, The mosque, The national constitution, The Judiary, The traditions, cultures and family have all failed. We are now a nation living in the shadow of reality . It will take a very sensitive political leader who understands the power of education, and who is willing to restructure the education sector for better, to turn things around. |
Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 12:41am On Nov 20, 2023 |
damilola4162:then everyone in all churches have done this, irrespective of their ignorance or knowledge or sin level or righteousness 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 7:53pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
damilola4162:the question one will ask is, who is then a Christian? Because, many of us not knowing who a Christian should be, is causing confusion in Christianity actually,these are secondary reasons why people go to church. In church, you can never see for example devoted Muslims there. Everyone you see in church were either born into Christian homes and were brought up by Christian parents to be Christians and churchgoers, or they were preached to, and were converted from their previous religion, example Islam, into Christianity. This is the primary reason that you see people in churches. With this fact in mind, the question is, who is a Christian? |
Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 6:14pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
damilola4162:But everyone born in a Christian home by virture of the fact that they were brought up by their Christian parents to believe, and everyone attending church meetings have believed in the resurrection of Christ Jesus that's why they are there. otherwise they will be in mosques being Muslims and not believing in Christ. Or they will be atheists not going to church at all. Or they will be traditionalists being in shrines and not church. Have you ever consider that Faith is what justifies to eternal life. and your faith is your religion? |
Religion / Re: Born Again by paxonel(m): 3:36am On Nov 19, 2023 |
steveodo:it is a scam to the highest order. Rather you should be asking, how were you converted from your previous religion or Faith into the Christian Faith which is required for your salvation? a scripture says without Faith(not without being born again) it is impossible to please God |
Religion / Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by paxonel(m): 8:53am On Nov 18, 2023 |
GanagiBeetrus:in the context of that scripture, to blaspheme means to reject the holy spirit. You can't talk bad about the holy spirit unless you are not a believer of the holy spirit. And who was the holy spirit that was talked bad against? He was Jesus Christ himself. So, in the nutshell, blaspheming against the holy spirit which implies talking bad against Jesus Christ is simply rejecting to believe in Christ for your salvation. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. It is not possible for a Christian to blaspheme against the holy spirit seeing that he is a believer. Therefore, there is no sin that cannot be forgiven except the sin of unbelief. Only an unbeliever will blasheme against Christ. |
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