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Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 8:22am On Dec 10, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Christ Himself Commanded "Go and sin no more". So. Clearly, you are wrong.
look, these whole thing is logical beyond what you think, and it is also simple to understand.

We are not saying anyone should go and sin.
All we are saying is, separate the message of salvation from teaching people not to sin.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Keeping the law and justification to salvation isn't the same thing and they have no bearing or relationship with one another.

Put it this way, they exist and function independently of one another
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 3:37am On Dec 10, 2023
Obviously, those of you that do not believe that believing in Christ alone guarantee the kingdom, lack the ability to understand the bible in that aspect. Yet you are the once preaching the most
Boomark:


Bro if you want us to continue, I would like you to agree that belief alone as guarantee to the kingdom of God which you have been defending all these while is wrong
it is not wrong, it is the gospel truth.
As a matter of fact, the other gospel that teaches sinlessness in addition to believing, is the wrong gospel.

It is either Christ alone or sinlessness alone.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

There is nothing like when you believe, in addition you must ask for forgiveness of sin and stop committing sin.
Where then is the Grace we are talking about in Christ if that is so?
Though, it appears that this is condoning sin, but it is not. Rather, it gives one the assurance of salvation even when you sin.

Ok, another question i will ask you : Are you living a sinless life as a Christian?
Be sincere to yourself

. this was what you have been using to stand against my original post.
because the original post is lie on it's own.
How can yiu say many women will go to hell fire simply because they commit sin, do you understand what you post at all?
Many women will go to hellfire simply because they didn't believe in Christ, that is what you should say.

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

The only condition for the Israelites to be saved in the wildness was them to lift up their eyes and look on the serpent lifted up by Moses. That's the only thing and nothing else

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Romans 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Romams 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Just believing only, that's all.
Your belief is counted as righteousness

Your belief contradicts what you are now defending, that we have sin in us and need to ask for forgiveness to be counted worthy.
did i defend this?
I didn't say or defend this o, please read all what i have been saying.

So agree that you erred not knowing the scriptures so we can continue. I don't like people running from pillar to post. See picture of your belief below.
what you don't like is to calm down and look at it critically
Religion / Re: If GOD asks me to sell my properties and follow HIM by paxonel(m): 3:17am On Dec 09, 2023
OpenYourEyes1:
I will believe and obey without question.
thank God you know that such thing is wild imagination, and it can never happen this dispensation
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 4:06pm On Dec 05, 2023
Boomark:


I gave you a summary of Galatians 5 with many verses and you said I quoted a single scripture
that the summary contradicts 1 John 1:8 ?

It is good to also know you said Paul was wrong in what he said in Galatians 5.
i didn't say so

Bros you have a problem. You cherry picked just 1 John 1:8 out of context and proved nothing at the end.
Explain yourself

Now let me summarize 1 John 1 and 2 for you to show that if you live in the flesh or darkness, you will not make it to the kingdom of God. This is a fact you cannot oppose.

God is light and there is no darkness in him, 1jn 1:5. You cannot claim to have fellowship with God and yet you walk in darkness (acts of the flesh), you lie,1jn 1:6. Light and darkness has nothing in common 2 Corinthians 6:14. You must ask God forgiveness of your sins before you are countered worthy, mere belief in Christ is not enough, 1jn 1:8. Anyone who hates his brother or sister is living in darkness and walks around in darkness and they are blinded by darkness, 1jn 2:9-11. Hatred is darkness and an act of the flesh, Gal 5:20. Therefore those who live in darkness or acts of the flesh has nothing to do with God, 1jn 1:6, and they will not inherit his kingdom, Gal 19:21.

See how I have done justice to the 1jn 1:8 you quoted out of context. This is how you should read to get better understanding and dump the errors you now believe in.
you have not done any justice, you end up mixing up things.

The scripture is very straightforward

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Matthew 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

In the context of this scripture, walking in darkness means "to say we have no sin ".
It means to deny our natural nature of sin.

Working in darkness in this scripture does not mean working in Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, etc mentioned in Galatians 5:21

Working in darkness means not being truthful to ourselves that we commit these sins due to our natural body.

And because we commit these sins, therefore it was necessary for Christ to come and cleans us.

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

As a matter of fact, we make Christ a liar for dying on the cross for us.
In orherwords, we are saying that what he did on the cross is not useful.

Now, i ask the question again.
Are you trying to say that this scripture contradicts Galatians 5:21 that end up saying.
I quote
..they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.?

Are you saying that Galatians 5:21 is making Christ a liar?
Because, from 1 John 1:10 everyone have sinned.
If that be so, everyone have done such things mentioned in Galatians 5:21 and shall not inherit the kingdom of God, making what Christ did on the cross a futile attempt and a lie

Explain yourself
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 5:42am On Dec 05, 2023
Boomark:

In other words, Those who crucify their flesh don't engage in the acts of the flesh which includes, sexual immorality, hatred, jealousy, etc.
wrong!

You know,
There is no way you can explain a single scripture of the bible in isolation.
Every scriptures have references to another scriptures, that's the only way we can get the true explanation.

According to you, those who are crucified in the flesh don't engage in the acts mentioned in Galatians 5:21
But 1 John 1:8 says, and i quote : If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Are you trying to say that 1 John 1:8 contradicts Galatians 5:21 ?
Hence, you are saying that the bible is a contradiction of itself?

Explain yourself
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 10:48am On Dec 04, 2023
Techobeys:


I do have biblical knowledge and by the grace of God, i can say I’m very vast in biblical knowledge but I do not understand how you seem to connect every of what you said. You lost me at some point.
I was terribly confused as well,until i began to be objective. Then i start to understand what the religion is truly driving at.
The truth is, billions of Christians are reading the bible, yet they cannot see beyond the letters to understand what is there
This explains why religionists are so vulnerable intellectually. Not that the bible wasn't intelligently written

One of the reasons I’m a little bit confused about what you’re saying is because we see in the revelation that Satan truly fell from heaven after Jesus had reason—when the war in heaven happened after the son was caught up to the throne of heaven. So when you say Jesus was specifically talking about spreading the gospel, I do not know how to relate both ideas.
like I have explained, certain parts of the bible(including the book of revelation were metaphorically written.
Jesus parables falls into that category.

Some of the metaphors were outrightly interpreted. Examples are the parable of the mustard seed which was iliterally nterpreted as thus:

Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Take note of how the interpretation was done : The field is this
The good seed is that

It's simple to understand.

But meanwhile, there are vast metaphors like this in the bible that was never interpreted. Examples are metaphors found in the book of revelation such as

Revelation 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

The beast, the seal, and others such as black horse, wild insects, mark 666 etc, all represents something in the literal or real sense which were never interpreted.

But when you have read the bible from Genesis to revelation, you will have a full understanding of what those animations or objects represents literally.

The point is, it is far better to have the literal understanding and apply them to our president real world.

The bible was written for us to understand, we were not created for the bible to confuse us.

So, if you come across anything in the bible like Satan falling from the sky or any fictional events. Look for how that Satan or event is applied to reality.

There is nothing like Satan or devil in the real sense.
Whatever happens to us is a function of the decisions we have taken in the past
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 11:25pm On Dec 03, 2023
Techobeys:


I can understand you’re not used to people genuinely telling you that they do not understand what you say. I’m sorry for putting you in such situations. The fact remains that I do not understand what you say and would like for you to be more explanatory about it. I know there’s been so much self in many people’s belief and I need to understand you before judging what you say
OK,
Do you have any basic knowledge about the bible, concerning Jesus Christ and his resurrection or anything at all?
For instance,

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

You can give me a brief of what you know about this scripture?, so that i will know where to fit in.

Because,this whole thing I'm trying to explain to you is like a curriculum of some sort
Politics / Re: Cost Of Living In Nigeria Is Cheaper Than UK Or US by paxonel(m): 10:11pm On Dec 03, 2023
psalmsjob:
I'm posting this as a response to the topic that made Nairaland front page yesterday; "See What Someone Bought With An Hour Minimum Wage In The UK £10", the link: https://www.nairaland.com/7929193/see-what-someone-bought-hour

UK & US ARE OVER-RATED NIGERIA IS STILL BETTER in terms of cost of living see a practical example why doing a price comparison: 1 pound to 1 naira today is N1,001 so are you saying with £10 x N1,001 = N10,001 you cannot buy everything in that basket and collect change in Nigeria today?

1 Sliced Bread = N800
2 Spaghetti = N1400
1 Gesha = N600
1 live chicken = N3,000
1 75cl soya Oil = N1,400
1 Midium size Butter = N600
2 Gino Tomato paste = N1,000

Total = N8,800 so your change is N1,200 that's if you exchange pound to naira at offical rate and buying at the most expensive stores or high brands. If you exchange at black market rate and buy at public market "days" you will collect as much as N6,000 after buying everything in that basket....that's about £6 left.

LET'S JUST THANK GOD FOR WHAT WE HAVE AND STOP LOOKING AT AND GLORIFYING ANOTHER MAN'S LAND MORE THAN OUR OWN....OUR OWN NA OUR OWN O grin
minimum wage in Nigeria is approximately N30,000 which is £30
And you just said you can earn £10 in one hour in the UK.
Do you see the difference now?

Please, is there any job in the UK that you will be paid £30 once in a month?
Who has ever survived in the UK with that kind of condition?
Reason it now

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Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 9:18pm On Dec 03, 2023
Techobeys:


I don’t seem to understand your point sir.
ohh!
Sorry, I thought you have read something atleast, in the bible before

You just want a little understanding of the bible write your book? grin grin
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 5:36pm On Dec 03, 2023
Techobeys:



So you’re saying old covenant is heaven?
No,
Rather, heaven is new covenant

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved?(enter the new covenant) And he said unto them,
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up,...

The resurrection of Christ marks the entrance or gate of Giod's kingdom.
It is what separates the new covenant from the old covenant
Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 12:43pm On Dec 03, 2023
Techobeys:


Did religions fall from heaven?
the term fall from heaven was spoken metaphorically. It will take you to consider everything that happened during Jesus time on earth to understand that.
That also mean, you will need to sit down and read the whole story.

In the nutshell, the term fall from heaven does not implies anything falling from the sky.
Rather, it literally implies the old covenant falling way, and paving way for the new covenant to be established.

And the gospel of the kingdom which is the new covenant was the centre point of Jesus preaching that was assigned to his disciples at that time

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Religion / Re: Will A Sinner Who Pays Tithe Make Heaven? by paxonel(m): 11:35am On Dec 03, 2023
Boomark:


Sinners will not inherit kingdom of God no matter what you believe.

Galatians 5:19-21
New International Version
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
You didn't complete this.
You ignored verse.24

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts

You don't understand?
For those that are in Christ, all these their witchcraft, impunity, hatred, jealousy etc have been crucified in the flesh, giving them a new spirit which is that of God

Therefore the advice in verse 25
Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

There is no way you can substitute or combine Christ with your ability to live righteously.
What Christ did on the Cross, is unique for your salvation and there is nothing else that you will do that will offer that salvation to you order than Christ
You can't even live righteously in the first place

1 John 1:8 if we say we do not commit sin, then we lie and deceive ourselves

You have been warned again and again. Do not be.deceived.
warn for saying the truth?
Religion / Re: Signs You Are Attending A Dead Or Dying Church by paxonel(m): 9:42am On Dec 03, 2023
cutecommend:
Don't console yourself if you are doing so.
it is a lie my brother.

The truth is, God is everywhere.

Psalms 24:1 The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
Religion / Re: Will A Sinner Who Pays Tithe Make Heaven? by paxonel(m): 9:37am On Dec 03, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Will A Sinner Who Pays Tithe Make Heaven?

If we go by the teachings of Jesus, he certainly won't make heaven.

Jesus said "unless you repent, you shall likewise perish!" Luke 13:13.

He also said no sinner shall make it into heaven. Matthew 13:41.

So do not deceived by those church leaders who preach tithing above the most important things in the law, such as, repentance of sins, that have made many sinners in the church think that it is more important to pay tithes than to turn away from their sinful ways.

They are blind leaders of the blind just as the Pharisees in the days of Jesus who did the same thing, but Jesus called them the "children of hell" regardless of their paying of tithes because inwardly they were full of iniquity. Matthew 13:15,28

So although paying of tithes is a good thing, if you don't repent of your sins, it cannot save you from hell!

You need to repent of your sins!

God bless.
heaven has nothing to do with tithe and sin.

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world...

In otherwords, so long the sinner is a believer, heaven is sure for him
Religion / Re: What Language Did Adam And Eve Speak? by paxonel(m): 9:18am On Dec 03, 2023
From the time of Adam and Eve till now, various languages had gone into extinction, how will you possibly now know which language Adam and Eve spoke?

Religion / Re: Signs You Are Attending A Dead Or Dying Church by paxonel(m): 7:50am On Dec 03, 2023
cutecommend:

but even with the excitements, God is not really there.
lies
Religion / Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by paxonel(m): 6:10am On Dec 03, 2023
Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
they only appears,
There is no such verse in the bible

Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment
then after judgement what happens?
Reincarnation!

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

This means that the dead are always coming back, but with a different body.

So, there is reincarnation

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.
obviously, Elijah came back with a different body. This time, in the person of John the baptist

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Religion / Re: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 5:30am On Dec 03, 2023
Techobeys:
As part of my next project to release a new book later this month, I have been asking a question every day to see how broad we perceive life and the truth

Question of the day:

What does it mean when Jesus said: I beheld Satan as lightening fall from heaven - Luke 10:18

1. Satan had already fallen and Jesus experienced it before coming.

2. Jesus only saw it in a vision as something to happen soon.

Choose an answer and tell us why you think your perspective is the truth.
satan,in the context of that scripture refers to antagonistic religions(later referred to as the Antichrist) that were against the death and resurrection of Christ.
Remember, he sent his disciples to go and preach and convert people from these religions.
At the point the disciples came back rejoicing because they were converting souls to believe in Christ, that was when Jesus made the statement, i saw Satan falling...
Meaning, other religions were falling.

Examples of such religions were the Pharisees who never believed that Jesus was the Christ.
And the Saducees who never believed in resurrection of the dead.

This also is in line with Daniels vision.
If you have read the book of Daniel about the statue Neduccadnezar fore saw, that a tiny stone(representing Jesus Christ) erupted among the segments(representing other religions). That the tiny stone struck the whole statue, such that they were carried away by the wind, and the stone grow to become a great mountain.
Jesus explains that his kingdom like a mustard seed will grow to become a great tree such that fowls of the air from various places will come and take refuge on it

There is nothing prophetic there and all these have nothing to do with the future, they are events that occurred at the time Jesus was about to be crucified 2000 years ago as stated in the bible
Religion / Re: Hell Fire Is Not Logical by paxonel(m): 4:00pm On Dec 02, 2023
Any school of thought that is not logical is a scam
gameova:

Christians please make it make sense. Thanks
blame it to dogmatism.

The hell fire doctrine was put foward to check immorality. Not necessarily to make sense
Religion / Re: CAC Pastors : Real Or Fake by paxonel(m): 6:19pm On Nov 26, 2023
Yemike:

Smiles. You're just ignorant.
like, is this the only thing you can say to defend syncretism?

Ok, how about the bible.
Is there any scripture that Paul the apostle or Peter or any biblical believer who had used symbolic items like pomade, powder, water, candle, etc to pray?
You can educate us here,

Because, in reality these things have failed to work.
Also,no traditional babalawo charms have ever proven to work for the records, otherwise yahoo boys will be known to be the richest in society
Religion / Re: CAC Pastors : Real Or Fake by paxonel(m): 11:19am On Nov 26, 2023
Yemike:

comparing C.A.C. with CCC shows you don't know anything about the church you might just be among the folks trying all they could to fight Christianity.
no!
I'm not fighting the church. If you want to defend falsehood, then you must be prepared to explain yourself.

In 2019 when covid-19 was ravaging the public such that, everyone including all the babalawos and ifa priests went into lockdown, where was CAC prayers and holy waters?

You people have learnt nothing?

The people simply allow the memories to die down. Now, they have started manifesting again, and you people have forgotten so soon?

Now, go and Google it and get informed.

SYNCRETISM OF TRADITION AND CHRISTIANITY

it is the most toxic element that can ever manipulate the brain and can never be compatible with the bible.
Infact, another researcher put it this way.
The mainline conservatives in Christianity always conceive syncretism as a practice which contaminates or dilutes Christian religion with elements that are incompatible with the gospel.
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 6:56am On Nov 26, 2023
Kepukepu:
Do I need to define dogma for you?
I didn't ask for definition of dogma.
Your definition of Faith as the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”isn't a reference from any dictionary .
Or do you have any dictionary that said so?
Post it here

Are you proving me right that religion attracts the least thinkers?
certainly!
Religion attract least thinkers.

So is atheism too!
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 1:41am On Nov 26, 2023
Kepukepu:
Religion is based upon dogma - therefore one is encouraged to have faith in the unexaminable.

“Faith”, by definition, is the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”

Does that sound like “critical thinking” to you?
no!
Not all religion are based on dogma.
Christianity isn't based on dogma.

And by the way, who defined Faith this wsy for you?
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 12:56am On Nov 26, 2023
Boomark:


What if I stand in the street with megaphone and shout that that those who lie, practice adultery, commit murder will be thrown into hell fire as seen in Revelation 21:8,
you didn't see that in Revelation 21:8.
You failed to start from verse 7 that says he that overcometh all things...
And also, take note of verse 7 that says THE FESRFUL AND THE UNBELIEVING.
This means, those that overcome all things refers to BELIEVERS.
Because with God, they can never be abominable or woremongers or soccerers.
They were washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb

will anyone say I came to their house? Will they say I am judging them when I was making reference to what is written in the scripture? As far as I know, nairaland is not anybody's house.
the essence of you preaching should be converting unbelievers(example Muslims, not Christians) to become believers of Christ.
Any exercise you do outside this is waste of time.

Galatians 1:1-2
1 Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead— 2 and all the brothers and sisters with me,

To the churches in Galatia:

This was what Paul wrote to the Christians in Galatia. I hope you will not say Christ was still on earth? See what he told them here.
I didn't see where Paul said he preached openly to everyone..
Anytime Paul preached, he targeted unbelievers to win them for Christ.
He only addresses fellow Christians most times in letters like the one you just mentioned, encouraging them to remain in the faith and stay away from sin or repent, but never did he preached the same sermon of salvation he preached to unbelievers with them.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
he is simply saying those who do not accept Christ are in the flesh, compared to those who accept Christ that they are in the spirit.
And the fruits of the spirit are love, joy peace, long-suffering, goodness, etc
And as such, since they are in the spirit, these works of the flesh does not manifest in them in the spirit.
Though in the flesh, they might still be making mistakes, because truly, no one is perfect .
But in the sporit they are justified with Christ.

You know what it means to be justified?
It's like you were guilty of sin, but the judge declared you innocent for free.
You didn't deserve it.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Then he gave me advice in verse 25

Galatoans 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

It was an advice to Christians.
It wasn't a judgement
It wasn't as if he they had chosen to do otherwise, they will lose their salvation.
It was a clear case that karma will also befall them like the unbelievers if they don't repent too.


C'est fini!

You can start reading from verse 13. He told Christians not pagan that those who do these things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
And he concluded by saying.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Meaning, Christians have crucified all the woremonging, adultery, fornication, lying etc that they do in their flesh, and are presented before God in spirit as justified people.

How many people have gone to warn him for trying to judge them?
Paul never judged people the way you are judging people into hell now.
Even when he preached to unbelievers(,when i say unbelievers, you should know what i mean by now) he never condemned them to hell like you are doing.

Your hypocrisy is, have you ever approached a Muslim and tell him you will go to hell fire?
Never!

BUT WHEN YOU SEE A FELLOW CHRISTIAN YOU WILL START SHOUTING, HELL FIRE, HELL FIRE!

He didn't tell them that the reward for these things are on earth and later they will inherit the kingdom of God. This is just one out of many.
are you doubting that God's kingdom is on this earth?

You know, some of my teacher friends will say my reward is in heaven, i will just laugh at their mumu.

My brother your belief is an error.

no!
It is your own that is not scriptural.
It is not even realistic.
It is not applicable to reality.

By extension, you make yourself a reproach, and people will simply repel you.
At that point you will think that the whole world is bad.
Meanwhile, you are the one making yourself to be like that .

In the Islamic world, you also have people misunderstanding their Quran, and they will behave unreasonably like that.
They are usually called terrorists or fundermentalists.

PLEASE DON'T BE A CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST

I have shown you what Christ said to the churches in Revelation. Those churches are Christian churches and made it clear to them that they will be rejected if they reject his commandments.
did you even read my response towards that at all?

These churches had left their Faith(revelation used FIRST LOVE).
They had stoped believing in Christ and were already into idolatry, that's why Paul rebuked them.

A situation where a whole church today will leave Christ and be doing Islam inside church isn't possible today.

Ah!
The building is church.
But when you go inside, it is Mohammed they are preaching.
Have you ever seen anything like that before?

You can't read the difference?
That was the similar situation John in Revelation, and Paul saw at Ephesus and other churches that made them to be mad
Religion / Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 10:00am On Nov 25, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

are the religious tenets afraid of being questioned?

Because, me i believe.
And critical thinking and logic have helped convinced me to believe.
Religion / Re: Why Many Women Will Go To Hellfire by paxonel(m): 5:49am On Nov 24, 2023
Boomark:


There is no where the bible said that believers should avoid sin just because their stay on earth alone. This is a wrong belief. If everything is about belief in Christ, then the apostle have no business teaching about good conducts. So every believer can go on and live in sin because heaven must be achieved in the end?

Being a believer alone does not make you a Christian. Christian means being like Christ. Christ did not live a life of sin, so those living in sin and calling themselves Christian are deceiving themselves. Christ knows his people.

In Matthew 7:21-23 you said those who believed in the name of Jesus Christ, did many signs and wonders in his name are not Christians. You contradict yourself. Christ said something that will happen on the last day for anyone who failed but you have are the one that determines it is not for Christian. So those who do the will of God in Vs 23 are also not Christians?

I quoted Matthew 25:41-45, where helping the needy was used as a criteria for making it to the kingdom of God but you said helping the needy cannot take anyone to heaven. Can you boldly tell Christ that h-e made a mistake in his judgment? My brother your belief is an error.
what I'm explaining to you requires your intellect to understand.

You see this Christianity we are practicing today in Africa?
Europe that imported the religion to Africa don't do what we Africans are doing here.
They practice the same Christianity intelligently, that's why their lives are note better than Africans today..

Two major answers to your questions you should go and think over is :
1. At the time of Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus was not yet crucified. Hence there were no Christians then.
So i don't know where you get the idea that Matthew 7;21-23 was referring to Christians.
2. You don't need the bible to tell you that anyone who commit sin, Christian or no Christian, will face the consequences of their actions here on earth.
A scripture quoted God saying i will visit the sins of the fathers to the third and forth generation.
It is in this world that all these things can happen.
And Jesus says my kingdom is not of this world.

I don't think you go about tagging everyone who commit sin as candidates of hell.
I mean, if you identify a Christian who is a chronic sinner and you go to his house and start shouting, you will go to hell fire. He has the right to throw you out of his house and there is nothing you can do about it.
So, anything that has to do with heaven or hell, you are not the one to judge.
You can only leave the judgement for God to do because you didn't create one soul, or do you?
Religion / Re: Is There Hope Of Redemption For This Generation??? by paxonel(m): 6:45am On Nov 20, 2023
what you are complaining isn't what is obtain able in developed societies.
What has happened in Africa over the years is that, our schools that was suppose to educate the population have failed us.
Consequently, The church, The mosque, The national constitution, The Judiary, The traditions, cultures and family have all failed.

We are now a nation living in the shadow of reality .

It will take a very sensitive political leader who understands the power of education, and who is willing to restructure the education sector for better, to turn things around.
Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 12:41am On Nov 20, 2023
damilola4162:


I get you sir, I a lane man term a Christian is someone who believe in the resurrection of Jesus. By believing his resurrection you acknowledge that he is the Christ.
then everyone in all churches have done this, irrespective of their ignorance or knowledge or sin level or righteousness

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Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 7:53pm On Nov 19, 2023
damilola4162:
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I was born into a Christian home and usually go to church meetings but was never a (Christian) saved
the question one will ask is, who is then a Christian?

Because, many of us not knowing who a Christian should be, is causing confusion in Christianity

until I was in my early 20s. Many people are like me up till now.

Many people go to church in Nigeria just to table their problems before God alone, the gospel is really being preached in most churches. The reason some people go to church is to do money doubler– they pay tithes so that God can (return) bless them in multiple folds this is the reason some are faithful to paying tithe.
actually,these are secondary reasons why people go to church.

In church, you can never see for example devoted Muslims there.
Everyone you see in church were either born into Christian homes and were brought up by Christian parents to be Christians and churchgoers, or they were preached to, and were converted from their previous religion, example Islam, into Christianity.
This is the primary reason that you see people in churches.

With this fact in mind, the question is, who is a Christian?
Religion / Re: Who Is A Christian According To The Bible? by paxonel(m): 6:14pm On Nov 19, 2023
damilola4162:

A Christian is not someone who attends church meetings or someone born in a Christian home. A Christian is someone who has believed(convinced) in the resurrection of Christ Jesus from the dead. This person is saved from eternal condemnation.

But everyone born in a Christian home by virture of the fact that they were brought up by their Christian parents to believe, and everyone attending church meetings have believed in the resurrection of Christ Jesus that's why they are there.
otherwise they will be in mosques being Muslims and not believing in Christ.
Or they will be atheists not going to church at all.
Or they will be traditionalists being in shrines and not church.

Have you ever consider that Faith is what justifies to eternal life. and your faith is your religion?
Religion / Re: Born Again by paxonel(m): 3:36am On Nov 19, 2023
steveodo:
Tell us your conversion story, how did you become born again ?
-Was it personal decision?.
-you were evangelized?
- was it because of a miracle you experienced?
it is a scam to the highest order.
Rather you should be asking, how were you converted from your previous religion or Faith into the Christian Faith which is required for your salvation?

a scripture says without Faith(not without being born again) it is impossible to please God
Religion / Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by paxonel(m): 8:53am On Nov 18, 2023
GanagiBeetrus:



According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.

Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.

in the context of that scripture, to blaspheme means to reject the holy spirit.
You can't talk bad about the holy spirit unless you are not a believer of the holy spirit.
And who was the holy spirit that was talked bad against?
He was Jesus Christ himself.

So, in the nutshell, blaspheming against the holy spirit which implies talking bad against Jesus Christ is simply rejecting to believe in Christ for your salvation.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

It is not possible for a Christian to blaspheme against the holy spirit seeing that he is a believer.

Therefore, there is no sin that cannot be forgiven except the sin of unbelief.
Only an unbeliever will blasheme against Christ.

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