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Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 8:57pm On Jan 28
Case close grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Your Words Have Power by paxonel(m): 7:58am On Jan 28
Don't spiritualize it and scam people!
Your words are nothing until you put them to action
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m):
Truthseeker10:
1)So where did people who died before Abraham go to?

2)Since you claimed that death Is a blink of an eye to a believer, where did Lazarus who was Jesus friend go to when he died for 4 days?
The reason i declined responding to this your question :
I thought by now, since Jehovah witnesses spend a lot of time to read bible, you people should have seen that there are timing for every scriptures?
By extension, everything that happens in this world have specific time and seasons Ecclesiastes 3:1

Let me ask you the question : at what exact time was the new covenant established?
Before Christ resurrection or after Christ resurrection?

If you can answer that question, then you get the answers to your questions
3)Are you saying that when people die, they do not go to a particular location whether it is heaven or hell or earth?
1 Corinthians 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

According to this parable, when you plant a seed it dies first inside the ground, but germinates to a new body plant, or tree.

ALL THESE HAPPENS HERE ON THIS EARTH, IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN ANY MYSTERIOUS PLACE.
SO RESURRECTION IS A NATURAL PROCESS
4)you clearly stated earlier that the mind represents the spirit.
that is, according to how God sees the soul which is the mind. because God is a spirit.
Why are you changing mouth now that the mind is the soul?
I did not change any mouth!
I can look at someone(a Christian specifically) and what do i see?
I see the body and that body is the soul who has his brain, which is his mind.
But God doesn't see him that way.
Infact, God is not even looking at the brain or the body as the soul. Because these things will decay when the person dies. John 3:6

There is a spirit that comes with resurrection of Christ, and that is the holy spirit.
That is what God sees as the soul or the mind.
It is the mind because, from the end of person, it is that mind the person believes that Jesus was crucified and is resurrected for his redemption.
And that is what lives on, after the body dies
Is soul and spirit the same?
then i will ask you, are you asking this question according to how God view the soul or according to how humans view the soul?
Because at the end, it is God that judges, not humans.

You see the reason why i declined some of your questions?
Because i throught by now, you should know
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 9:40pm On Jan 27
Truthseeker10:
2)are you saying that when Lazarus the friend of Jesus died for 4 days, he was in Abraham covenant with God? What kind of statement is this?
read again what i posted.
You mentioned Lazarus the friend of Jesus which is not the same Lazarus that goes to Abraham bosom

They are two different Lazarus
if the mind does not die and it represents the spirit, What about the soul?
The is soul is the mind.
And you have to specify, it is the soul of the believer that doesn't die.
The soul of the unbeliever dies and is gone forever
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 10:11am On Jan 27
Truthseeker10:
Lol....so you're saying here that Lazarus who was Jesus friend was in Abraham bossom enjoying and Jesus brought him back to earth?
obviously you did not read what i wrote cheesy
Where is this Abraham bossom located?
I think I also said that Abraham had covenant with God.
Your question is like asking, where is abraham covenant located?

You must understand that parables are illustrations of reality.
Abraham bosom in reality means Abrahamic covenant.
By the grace of God, we have Jews still living today
What exactly is the part of man that is being recycled here on earth?
The mind, which represent the spirit.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

It appears that the old body decay or corrupt when the believer dies. While a new body is given to him as a new creature.

But the mind still remain the same.
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m):
Truthseeker10:
1)If a person dies today and he is judged immediately, where did Abraham go when he died?
according to scriptures, at first he went to Abraham bossom. Luke 16:32.
But after Christ had died and resurrected he was taken to God's kingdom. Matthew 8:11

So Abraham is alive with us today. Matthew 22:32

It's possible that Abraham can be anybody we see around whose body has been changed.
Remember, when Jesus resurrected his body was changed too, his disciples could not recognize him.
2)If death is like a blinking of an eye to believers, where did Lazarus who was a friend to Jesus go when he died?
Lazarus believed in Christ that's why he was a friend of Christ.

Lazarus is alive with us today.

Ok, understand it from the concept of the other Lazarus who went to Abraham.
this is the concept :
God established the old covenant with Abraham and his descendant's(The isrsrlites) among which was Lazarus, were entitled to that covenant.
Unlike Lazarus the rich man died and was buried, because he wasn't part of the Abrahamic covenant.
Jesus came with the new covenant, since Abraham was justified into the new covenant, as many of the Jews or isrealites who believe in Christ, are also entitled to the new covenant rt too.
So, if Lazarus who was taken to Abraham bossom had believed, he too is alive with us today.
2)Are you saying that all Christians would keep getting recycled on earth forever?
Exactly!
There is no end to this!
It is everlasting life here on this earth.

God created Adam and Eve to live forever.
That was the original purpose.
And that is what he has achieved by sending his son Jesus Christ to come and die and resurect. Romans 5:18
RomanceRe: Gombe Man Marries His Uncle's Daughter (Photos) by paxonel(m): 8:30am On Jan 26
prophetic69:
Very common, it's not bad in Islam....that's why you see most families in the north are closely related....
And that's why many of them are having diseases like leprosy, polio and haemorhagic septisemia
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does God Allow Pain And Suffering? by paxonel(m): 10:33pm On Jan 25
comedycartoon:
Pain and suffering refine you for the Blessings to come. They are preparation for the greater things to come.
very true !

However, some people suffer unnecessary avoidable suffering, for nothing
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 10:12pm On Jan 25
SeraphEl:
Correct. Scripture teaches that after death comes judgment (Heb 9:27).
True
Believers who die are with the Lord in the intermediate state (Phil 1:23;
Philemon 1:23 There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus;

The scripture is satuting fellow Christians.
It is not even talking about death talkless of intermediate state grin
2 Cor 5:8].
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

The scripture did not mention anything intermediate.
Rather it confirms 1 Corinthians 15:38 that God will give us a new body when we resurrect
However, Bodily resurrection for all—the righteous to life and the wicked to judgment—occurs at Christ’s return,
Christ has been returning.
Anytime someone dies, that is the return of Christ to judge the person.
It is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.
After that, life continues as if nothing happens
“in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,” at the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:51–52; 1 Thess 4:16–17; John 5:28–29).
at the last Trump means at the last breath …
Trumpet is used to describe the final call, that your time has reach
At the final judgment, the Book of Life determines destiny (Rev 20:11–15).
very true!
And this happens within the shortest time frame that is as short as blinking of eye. After which the Christian come back to life again, or born again.

So to Christians, death is not real.
Infact, there is nothing like death. It is just blinking of the eye.
Therefore, believers do not receive resurrection bodies immediately at death,
meaning, they are dead and no eternal life?
You are equally saying that the purpose Christ resurrection is defeated which is not true…

Every Christians you see around once lived and died and resurrected.
It's a continuous cycle forever, no end..
There are scriptures for this.
and unbelievers are not condemned without resurrection.
what you are saying is, Christ resurrected for unbelievers too?

Revelation says whoever name is not written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death.

This tells us they died, and that is their end.

It appears that unbelievers are created while believers are recycled.
Any of the unbelievers who eventually accept Christ will join the recycling.
But if they continue with their unbelieving till the time of their death, they are gone forever
Christianity EtcRe: Things You Wont Do When You Get To Heaven by paxonel(m): 10:13am On Jan 25
Which heaven?
Keep deceiving yourselves.

You don't know that you are the heaven and that no other heaven but you?

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Heaven is not any place.

The same thing, church is not any place or building
Christianity EtcRe: I Don’t Believe The Recent Televised Healing Of Cripples By Pastor Chris by paxonel(m): 10:10am On Jan 25
Yeye pastor
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Some Prayers Take So Long To Be Answered? by paxonel(m): 10:08am On Jan 25
Sunnyshinylight:
Why Do Some Prayers Take So Long To Be Answered?


One of the hardest parts of faith is waiting. You pray sincerely. You believe genuinely. You try to live right. Yet the answer doesn’t come — or at least, not when you expect it to.


Days turn into months. Months turn into years. And the question quietly forms in your heart: “God, did You hear me?”
Yes, God hears every prayer. But not every answer comes immediately.



Sometimes, the delay is because God is working on you, not just the situation. Certain blessings require growth, maturity, patience, and preparation.


What you’re asking for might be good, but you may not yet be ready to handle it.
Sometimes, God is aligning people, timing, and circumstances. What looks like delay is actually divine coordination.


One small change in timing could affect everything.
Sometimes, the answer is “no”, and God is protecting you from something you can’t see. Not every unanswered prayer is rejection — some are redirection.


And sometimes, the delay is meant to build deeper faith. Faith that doesn’t depend on fast results.

Faith that trusts even in silence.
Waiting is painful. But waiting is not wasted.
God’s timing is not slow — it’s precise.


If you’re still waiting on an answer this morning, hold on. Keep praying. Keep believing. Keep trusting.

The delay may be part of the miracle. 🙏✝️
as a Christian, God did not promise you or owe you anything order than eternal life through Christ Jesus.

It's either they are scamming you or you are the one scamming yourself
PoliticsRe: The Menace Of Street Begging In Kano (Video) by paxonel(m): 6:57am On Jan 25
AMINDA:
Say no more. All Southerners who eventually move to the North barely want to leave afterwards. Life is better in the North, forget all the stereotypes. It takes one who has lived in both regions to arrive at this conclusion. Who no go, no go know.
Yet, your life and properties as a southerner are not guaranteed. Because, violent crisis can come up suddenly
Christianity EtcRe: When Was The Last Time You Prayed "Thy Kingdom Come"? by paxonel(m): 6:44am On Jan 25
dahmie2013:
We always think when asked to pray, it's only about our individual needs and wants. But newsflash, that is not the Kingdom pattern.

The Kingdom pattern is "Our Father, who art in Heaven", this signifies calling the name of Jesus when we pray. So we begin our prayers with "In Jesus Name".

Then, "Hallow be thy name", here, the emphasis is on thanksgiving. You enter his throne or courts with thanksgiving. You thank God first, before making any demands.

Next is "Thy Kingdom Come". This refers to Kingdom Advancement Prayers. Pray for the service happening tomorrow. Let multitudes gather, and let the unsaved amongst them get their salvation. Pray for signs and wonders as the word goes forth. Remember Mathew 6:33, your own needs will be met as you pray for others.

I'm a living proof that Mathew 6:33 works. When I need something, rather than pray for myself, I pray for others in my Church that have similar desires and God in turn answers my request.

As Pst Mrs Faith Oyedepo constantly says "God is too faithful to fail". Make Mathew 6:33 your prayer anchor this year.
Why do we need to pray for the services happening tomorrow Sunday, do you truly need Sunday service to advance the kingdom?

I thought if you want to advance the kingdom you will take the gospel away from the church to people like Muslims, African traditionalists, atheists, etc. You will take the gospel to where they are like what Paul and the apostles did, traveling from one place to another.

Because looking at the church on Sundays, you can't find one Muslim or atheist there
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does God Allow Pain And Suffering? by paxonel(m): 6:19am On Jan 25
God allow pain and suffering, at the same time he equipped you with the brain to overcome pain and suffering.

How then does he allow pain and suffering, of what use will your pain and suffering be to him?
Christianity EtcRe: "Can I Lose My Salvation?" - Assurance And Security In Faith. by paxonel(m): 6:12am On Jan 25
It is very difficult and almost impossible for a Christian to loose his or her salvation.

We are all saved by Grace
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by paxonel(m):
Boomark:
Delusion is when I post scriptures and you left it and started talking about Jehovah's witnesses.
your post appear to be a post of the deceptive Jehovah witnesses.

Are you Jehovah witness?

The highest you can say is you are Jehovah witness or you are not Jehovah witness.
Simple!
Now that I am not a Jehovah's witness, it means that you have successfully written nonsense.
In that case, it is your post that is nonsense because like Jehovah witnesses and Muslims, you are trying to discredit Jesus as a mere human who has a father in heaven
Thank you for saying that what I wrote is Unquestionable. By the way, and agent of sin, satan, and the antichrist is not supposed to be talking about Christianity.
next time, post something sensible. Stop talking rubbish
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 5:12pm On Jan 24
SeraphEl:
Let me pose back to you: What does the term 'eternal, forever, unquenching' mean to you? Can you put a number to it.

If you can put a number to those terms, then that's your answer.
Anyway, this is the explanation!
When we die, scriptures says judgement happens immediately. Hebrews 19:27

That means as death happens to people at their different times, everyone have their own time of their judgement.

And God will conclude the judgement within a time frame that is as small as the time you blink your eye

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,...

If your name is found in the book of life after the judgement, as your blinking eye opens, you will see yourself alive with a new body. That is, your body will be changed. This is what is called resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed,

At the other hand, if your name is not found in the book of life, your eye will not blink open into life after it has blinked dead. You are dead forever or you are condemned without resurrection
John 3:18

The bottom-line is, believers are certainly going to resurrect back to life immediately the die.
This has been happening
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by paxonel(m): 3:08am On Jan 24
Boomark:
⛈️ TEST FOR DELUSION

⚖️ Carefully examine these scriptures and test yourself. You will also see they don't teach the most important commandment how it is written.

🗡️ II Thessalonians 2:10-12 NKJV
[10] and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, [12] that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


🗡️ John 8:40 NKJV
[40] But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.


⚖️ We are going to test ourselves to know if we believe the truth from God's word. Have it at the back of your mind that the reason for the delusion is refusal to accept the truth that came from God . The truth Christ heard from God and told us.

TEST 1

The Father is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.

🗡️ John 20:17 KJV
[17] Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


🗡️ Ephesians 1:17 NIrV
[17] I pray to the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is the glorious Father. I keep asking him to give you the wisdom and understanding that come from the Holy Spirit. I want you to know God better.


🗡️ Revelation 1:6 NKJV
[6] and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen


🗡️ Revelation 3:12 NIrV
[12] Here is what I will do for anyone who has victory over sin. I will make that person a pillar in the temple of my God. They will never leave it again. I will write the name of my God on them. I will write the name of the city of my God on them. This is the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God. I will also write my new name on them.


Question 1

Do you believe Christ and his word that he has a God, that the Father is his God?

⚖️ If you see yourself finding it difficult or refusing to accept that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ or think in your heart that Jesus doesn't know what he is saying, especially in Revelation, that he is equal to the Father, then it is delusion.

Turning away from the teachings of Jesus Christ means you don't have God and Christ (2 John 1:9, very important).


TEST 2

Jesus Christ alone is called the word of God.

🗡️ John 1:14 LSB
[14] And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.*


🗡️Revelation 19:13 KJV
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


🗡️ Revelation 22:18 NIrV
[18] I am warning everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. Suppose someone adds anything to them. Then God will add to that person the plagues told about in this book.


Question 2

Do believe that Jesus Christ alone is fit to be called the word of God, without adding that the bible also is called the word of God?

⚖️ If you see yourself refusing to stick to what God himself say is called the word of God. By *adding* that the bible is also called the word of God, against the warning in Revelation 22:18, you are disobedient and deluded. You added something that does not exist anywhere in the scripture. Giving to a book the glory that God gave to Christ alone (a book is what it was called in Revelation 22:18-19). The scripture says, do not add to anything that is written in that book be it inside or outside the book.


TEST 3

Yahweh, God the Father is the one God of Israel (Jacob) and one God over us all.

🗡️Acts 3:13 NKJV
[13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.


🔥 The most important commandment.🔥

🗡️ Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB
[4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!
[5] You shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.


🗡️Mark 12:29-30, 32 NIrV
[29] Jesus answered, “Here is the most important one. Moses said, ‘Israel, listen to me. The Lord is our God. The Lord is one. [30] Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Love him with all your mind and with all your strength.’ (Deuteronomy 6:4,5)[32] “You have spoken well, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one. There is no other God but him.


🗡️ 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 NIrV
[4] ....We know that “there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him.


🗡️ John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.


Question 3

Do you believe that we have only one God and he is God the Father (The only true God)?


Do you believe that whoever is the God of Jesus Christ is one God over all?

⚖️ If you see yourself refusing to acknowledge that there is one God, and that he is Father. Saying that there are three persons/personalities in one God (Trinity), then it is delusion. Delusion is when you have refused to believe the truth Christ told us but have chosen something that does not exist in the scripture. You reject the most important commandment God gave.

Antichrist means opposition to Christ (his teachings).

It is only the cunning serpent that will tell people to say the opposite of the truth God gave to Christ. Test yourself.


You can ask me any question from the scripture and I will answer all.


Boomark Of God
Your test is irrelevant because no one is disputing that God is not the father of Jesus.

But do your Jehovah witnesses believe that Jesus himself is also that his father known as God? John 1:1

If they do not have this belief, then certainly jw are not Christians but another deceivers of the brethren.

Because, like the Israelites of the old covenant, and like Muslims and other religions who honor Jesus and do not worship him, Jehovah witnesses are another religion entirely away from Christianity.

Therefore they are condemned. John 3:18
Christianity EtcRe: Wealth Must Change Hands For Tolu by paxonel(m): 9:53am On Jan 22
Cashylyxestate:
Paxonel, do you believe their is kingdom of Zion and their is kingdom of Babylon ?
Let me assume that what you mean by kingdom of Zion is God's kingdom, and kingdom of Babylon is Satan's kingdom.

Yes ,they do exist
Christianity EtcRe: Wealth Must Change Hands For Tolu by paxonel(m): 1:54am On Jan 22
All these Yoruba fictional imaginations of D. K Olukaya has never worked for anyone and are all scam.

You think life is about writing fantasies on paper?
Christianity EtcRe: "Their Worms Shall Never Die" (Mk 9:48) Implies Physical Body in Hellfire. by paxonel(m): 4:22pm On Jan 18
SeraphEl:
I am quite sure you can reason and deduce that not all things need to be spelled out for you in Scripture. Else Bible will not be portable.
you are very correct.
Nevertheless, everything you can deduce from the bible must come from a fact written in the bible.

You can't deduce anything from what is not written
When you die, your soul continues on.
Is there any scripture that specify how long the soul continues?
PoliticsRe: 80 Militants Lay Down Arms In Cross River, Embrace Amnesty (video) by paxonel(m): 2:22pm On Jan 18
All these ones are militants or boat transporters?
SportsRe: AFCON 25: Senegal Refuse To Train, Send Complaints To CAF Ahead Of Morocco Final by paxonel(m): 10:50am On Jan 17
The system in AFCON is far from fair play, and CAF has compromised integrity.

Imagine the Ghana ref.
Highly intimidated fellow
Christianity EtcRe: My Prayer Against Spirit Of Failure by paxonel(m): 7:56pm On Jan 16
Cashylyxcompute:
Paxonel, God is Good is this right ?
Absolutely right
Christianity EtcRe: My Prayer Against Spirit Of Failure by paxonel(m): 11:22am On Jan 16
Cashylyxcompute:
Paxonel , The enemy is anything that is not God ,is this right ?
Paper is not God
Sand is not God.

I don't think they are enemy
Christianity EtcRe: My Prayer Against Spirit Of Failure by paxonel(m): 7:56am On Jan 16
Cashylyxcompute:
Paxonel what do you call evil spirit that block success if it is not spirit of failure ?
They made people in church to believe that there is spirit of failure. That is wrong!

The idea is not even biblical.
I believe it is this desire for traditional Africans to be fetish or being unnecessarily fictional.

Please let's face the reality in this generation, whatever we sow that's what we reap
Christianity EtcRe: My Prayer Against Spirit Of Failure by paxonel(m): 3:38am On Jan 16
There is nothing like spirit of failure, disappointment and confusion.

Success is only achieved by training the mind to acquire skills, It is not achieved in prayer.

A child who grow up not having the opportunity to go to school is bound to fail in life. No miracle!

This is the common situation of many Nigerians you pastors are praying for.

If you truly want to help them, then you have to sponsor them financially.
Stop the prayer, it doesn't work
Christianity EtcRe: Choosing Jesus Over Denominations by paxonel(m): 7:53am On Jan 14
tctrills:
You mean rich Christians don't go to church, they stay at home and search the scriptures while only the poor christians go to church.

This is the first time I am hearing this one
no, that's not what i mean!

Check it, among all the people that attach themselves to their pastors and are regular in church, over 75% of them are poor people whose source of livelihood depends on the pastor.
While many of the church members who are not regular in church are self dependent.

That self dependency is what should be. Not the other way round
Christianity EtcRe: Choosing Jesus Over Denominations by paxonel(m): 4:19am On Jan 14
tctrills:
Nice one but I hope you know that this isn't practical unless you don't attach yourself to any church and all you do is worship from home and decide the doctrines of Christ for yourself
It is poverty that makes people want to attach themselves to other people otherwise you don't need church.
These pastors are the ones that need people the most..If people ignore them, they are doomed.

Doctrines are not meant to decide by anyone, not even pastors. search the scriptures for yourself.
The most practical Christian life is not the one you live by church doctrines. It is the one you live on your own in the circular world outside the church.
Christianity EtcRe: How Do You Feel When A Male Doctor Attends To Your Wife During Child Labor by paxonel(m): 4:09am On Jan 14
Which kind yeye question be this one now?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Jerry Eze Leads Obi Cubana To Christ by paxonel(m): 4:07am On Jan 14
As if he wasn't in Christ before!

Scammer pastor

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