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Christianity Etc › Re: Good Friday And The Tree Of Life by PCHC(op): 2:56am On Mar 30, 2024
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Christianity Etc › Good Friday And The Tree Of Life by PCHC(op): 2:55am On Mar 30, 2024
GOOD FRIDAY AND THE TREE OF LIFE

[1 Adam+Eve 37:1] — THEN Adam said to Eve, "Are you not seeing these figs and their leaves, with which we covered ourselves when we were stripped of our bright nature? But now, we do not know what misery and suffering may come upon us from eating them.

Adam and Eve knew the trees by their fruits, but they did not know what misery and suffering that may come from eating the fruits or eating of the tree they know. To them, it was beyond just knowing a tree by its fruit, and required also knowing what the eater of the fruit loses, and not just what the eater gains. Adam and Eve already know both "gain and loss" from eating of the same fruit: The last fruit they ate before here, they knew the tree by its fruit, and they gained some wisdom (Knowledge of good and evil) but they lost their Bright Nature and right to the Tree of Life.

When they were stripped of their Bright Nature at eating of the forbidden tree, the lights emanating from them gone, their eyes were opened to see their being naked, which is what they were not seeing before because of their own lights or glorious bodies. It's like how Rick Joyner (in his experience) was given a mantle of humility, worn to cover his own brightness in order to see some details his own light/glory prevented him from seeing. His case was better because he did not lose his bright nature like Adam and Eve before his eyes were opened to his immediate realization.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:2] — Now, therefore, O Eve, let us restrain ourselves and not eat of them, you and I; and let us ask God to give us of the fruit of the Tree of Life."

If you want to request or order for change of the food or drinks you were served, make sure you have not begin eating the food nor drank the drinks. You have more right to request for another or for change of the food when your protest involves you haven't tasted or eaten the rejected food. Adam and Eve knew this.

But they it on time to apply it before eating of the forbidden tree when they intend to request for the fruit of the Tree of Life. When they ate (tasted) of the forbidden tree that gives knowledge of good and evil, they lost right to demand for substitution/change into eating of the Tree of Life. Now they are applying it well, but already late: They are refusing to eat of the Fig Trees before them so that their right and protest for the fruit of the Tree of Life may hold sway.

This is not to say whoever eats of the Fig Trees or eats of another tree would not have the right to eat of the tree of life again. Rather, ensure you approach the fruit of the Tree of Life with hunger or prove you have not eaten from elsewhere before it. This is not just about "1 Corinthians 10:21 — You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils;" but also about "Not being filled with the worse wine because the Lord has kept the Best Wine for the Last" [John 2:10]

[1 Adam+Eve 37:3] — Thus did Adam and Eve restrain themselves, and did not eat of these figs.

Good, Adam and Eve were not like Esau when he was hungry and sold his birthright. Even though Adam and Eve were hungry and emaciated with hunger and fasting that was about 43 days and nights, and even though they prayed/begged for those food they were given by the Rich One, yet they still put "Restraint" and would not eat what was available for them in order for them to still keep their right/choice to be entitled to the Tree of Life.

They say, beggars have no choice, but I've seen beggars that had choice. If you are fasting and praying, you are basically a beggar with choice: Your praying is begging, but your fasting or refusing to eat is your choice by refusal. Can ye eat your cake and have it?

[1 Adam+Eve 37:4] — But Adam began to pray to God and to beseech Him to give him of the fruit of the Tree of Life, saying thus: "O God, when we transgressed Your commandment at the sixth hour of Friday, we were stripped of the bright nature we had, and did not continue in the garden after our transgression, more than three hours.

Adam began praying to God for the gift of the fruit of the Tree of Life. If you have prayed God to give you spiritual gifts, remember to also pray God to give you eternal gift such as the gift of eating of the Tree of Life. However, Adam was missing the point of asking for the gift of Salvation first before that of the Tree of Life, since he's beginning his prayer from when he sinned/transgressed the Commandment of God. Adam thought it's "Time duration period or punishment length" that would makeup or compensate for the sin they sinned, and therefore restore to them eligibility to eat of the Tree of Life. See, between when one sinned and when the sinner will have the tree of life, it's not about how much time or punishment involved but about Salvation/Covenant in the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ, God with us.

Nevertheless, let's harvest some details Adam was dishing out in the commencement of his prayer in this verse above:

"Good Friday" first began with Adam and Eve, but the Lord Jesus Christ relived His own version of "Good Friday:" Therefore, let's relate both:

*a* — Third Hour, Good Friday: In Jesus' Good Friday, in the third hour Jesus Christ was crucified (Mark 15:25). But in Adam's Good Friday, in the third hour Adam was created and brought into paradise and Eve was also made in end of the third hour (1 Adam+Eve 34:10-13).

*b* — Sixth-Ninth Hour, Good Friday: In Jesus' Good Friday, in the sixth hour Jesus Christ was stripped of the Father with Him, having laid on Him the sin of the World, and therefore there was darkness throughout the whole land from the sixth hour to the ninth hour (Mark 15:33). But in Adam's Good Friday, in the sixth hour Adam was stripped of the Bright Nature, having began the sin of the World by eating of the forbidden tree or transgressing the Commandment of God, and therefore Adam and Eve were stripped of the Bright Nature and were stack naked from the sixth hour to the ninth hour.

*c* — Ninth Hour, Good Friday: In Jesus' Good Friday, in the ninth hour Jesus Christ was the One asking the Father God, "Where are You" by saying, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Mark 15:34). But in Adam's Good Friday, in the ninth hour (Cool of the day/Evening) God was the One asking Adam, "Adam, where are you?" (1 Adam+Eve 36:2).

*b* — Good Friday: In Jesus' Good Friday, the Lord brought man into Paradise with Him. As it is written, "And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, Today (Good Friday) shall you be with Me in paradise." (Luke 23:43). But in Adam's Good Friday, the Lord who brought man into Paradise (Garden of Eden) later drove the man out of the Paradise, all happening in that same Good Friday.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:5] — But on the evening You made us come out of it. O God, we transgressed against You one hour, and all these trials and sorrows have come upon us until this day.

In the evening of Adam's Good Friday, God drove mankind out of paradise; and the sin mankind committed against God for about one hour has since then continually brought all the trials and sorrows man born of a woman have been suffering until this day.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:6] — And those days together with this forty-third day, do not redeem that one hour in which we transgressed!

Expecting 43 days of trials, sorrows, weeping, regrets, suffering and fasting, as in, 43 days of deep Penance to redeem one hour of sin. How much days of Penance would compensate for one hour sin against God?

Well, if you can find my commentary on "Ezekiel 4:4-6" in which Ezekiel laid on his left hand side without turning for 390 days to bear Israel's sin, and laid on his right hand side ditto for 40 days to bear Judah's sin, and how the Lord Jesus Christ in few days or few hours bore the sin of the entire generations men of the world.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:7] — O God, look upon us with an eye of pity, and do not requite us according to our transgression of Your commandment, in presence of You.

This one touch me. It's wise Adam did not say "Requite us according to the days or time duration suffered for sinning against You." Rather he said, "Do not requite us according to our sin."

No man can fully pay for sin against God, so stop thinking it's about how much you have suffered for something you consider as "little sin." It's not about the size of the sin, but about the size of the God or the Word of God you offended and transgressed. Do you know how much big God is? Do you know the scope and ramifications of a single Word of God to you, and the impact of that single sentence of God in the universes and galaxies and eternity.

A soldier who slaps an ordinary man on the street, and another soldier who slaps his Commander in Chief or President of his nation: Both slapped another man, yet the size of their sins is not measured just by the act of small slapping done in one minute, but includes the size, status and personality of the men involved.

If you know the size, status and personality, of God, you will know God is far too merciful and kind even in His punishment for sin.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:8] — O, God, give us of the fruit of the Tree of Life, that we may eat of it, and live, and not turn to see sufferings and other trouble, in this earth; for You are God.

Adam and Eve have requested the fruit of the Tree of Life as the gift of God they most need and desire the above all else. Impressively, Adam and Eve already know what the fruit of the Tree of Life does and brings to the eaters thereof. They knew they would live when they eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life, and that would give them immunity from all sufferings and troubles in the earth, as well as give them immortality. They acknowledge God would not need permission from anyone else to give them the fruits of the Tree of Life because He's God, and answerable to no one.

Well, the fruit of the Tree of Life is like these other fruits, daily bread or Manna from heaven that angels or another person could bring to someone outside. Fruit of the Tree of Life not come in "Take-Away" or taken from where the Tree is to someone that needs it the most. To eat of the Tree of Life, everyone must come to the Tree and get it for his/herself. Not like Eve plucked of the forbidden tree and gave to Adam, but each one must got and get the fruit of the Tree of Life. So the implication of this Adam's prayer point here also means bringing Adam back into the garden or paradise where the Tree of Life is, and removing the Cherub out of Adam's way. Remember my illustration in difference between bringing gifts from heaven to outsiders and actually allowing the outsiders to enter into the gates or into heaven. Asking for the fruit of the Tree of Life is asking to enter into the garden/heaven, and not just like asking for the other fruits that can be sent out.


[1 Adam+Eve 37:9] — When we transgressed Your commandment, You made us come out of the garden, and did send a cherub to keep the Tree of Life, lest we should eat thereof, and live; and know nothing of faintness after we transgressed.

Adam and Eve were fully aware that keeping them from the Tree of Life is the major reason God drove them out of the garden and brought the Cherub to keep the Tree of Life out of man's reach.

The Tree of Life was the most precious treasure of the Garden.

[1 Adam+Eve 37:10] — But now, O Lord, behold, we have endured all these days, and have borne sufferings. Make these forty-three days an equivalent for the one hour in which we transgressed."

This prayer point of Adam in this verse somehow re-echoed through the Penitent Crucified Thief beside the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross. When Adam was saying it here, the Lord would not grant that until about five and half millenniums away. Then at the appointed time, the request was re-quested again by the Penitential thief who admitted suffering the condemnation for his sins, while the Lord Jesus was righteous and innocent but suffering their condemnation. Then as if the voice of Adam spoke through him, he said, "Lord remember me when You come in Your Kingdom." And the Lord Jesus responded as if He was talking to Adam, "Verily I say to you, Today you shall be with Me in paradise."

You think that man had memories with the Lord to warrant the Lord to remember him? For someone to tell me to remember him, he/she must have earned my remembering him or I owe it to the person as a debt. Do you think a condemned sinner would have the boldness to be asking for "Remembrance" instead asking for "Mercy/Forgiveness" on the King of the Lord Jesus Christ? Was the Lord Jesus in any debt to the man asking for His remembering him as the Cupbearer was in debt of remembering Joseph?

Christianity Etc › 1 Adam+eve Eve 38 by PCHC(op): 11:28pm On Mar 28, 2024
THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE [1 Adam+Eve]
Chapter 38

When 5500 Years are Fulfilled


*1* "AFTER these things the Word of God came to Adam, and said to him:--

*2* "O Adam, as to the fruit of the Tree of Life, for which you asked, I will not give it to you now, but when the 5500 years are fulfilled. Then will I give you of the fruit of the Tree of Life, and you shall eat, and live for ever, you, and Eve, and your righteous seed.

*3* "But these forty-three days cannot make amends for the hour in which you did transgress My commandment.

*4* "O Adam, I gave you to eat of the fig-tree in which you did hide yourself. Go and eat of it, you and Eve.

*5* "I will not deny your request, neither will I disappoint your hope; therefore, bear up unto the fulfilment of the covenant I made with you."

*6* And God withdrew His Word from Adam.

Agriculture › 1 Adam+eve 37 by PCHC(op): 11:00pm On Mar 28, 2024
THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE [1 Adam+Eve]
Chapter 37

Forty-three days of Penance do not redeem one hour of sin

*1* THEN Adam said to Eve, "Are you not seeing these figs and their leaves, with which we covered ourselves when we were stripped of our bright nature? But now, we do not know what misery and suffering may come upon us from eating them.

2* "Now, therefore, O Eve, let us restrain ourselves and not eat of them, you and I; and let us ask God to give us of the fruit of the Tree of Life."

*3* Thus did Adam and Eve restrain themselves, and did not eat of these figs.

*4* But Adam began to pray to God and to beseech Him to give him of the fruit of the Tree of Life, saying thus: "O God, when we transgressed Your commandment at the sixth hour of Friday, we were stripped of the bright nature we had, and did not continue in the garden after our transgression, more than three hours.

*5* "But on the evening You made us come out of it. O God, we transgressed against You one hour, and all these trials and sorrows have come upon us until this day.

*6* "And those days together with this forty-third day, do not redeem that one hour in which we transgressed!

*7* "O God, look upon us with an eye of pity, and do not requite us according to our transgression of Your commandment, in presence of You.

*8* "O, God, give us of the fruit of the Tree of Life, that we may eat of it, and live, and not turn to see sufferings and other trouble, in this earth; for You are God.

*9* "When we transgressed Thy commandment, You made us come out of the garden, and did send a cherub to keep the Tree of Life, lest we should eat thereof, and live; and know nothing of faintness after we transgressed.

*10* "But now, O Lord, behold, we have endured all these days, and have borne sufferings. Make these forty-three days an equivalent for the one hour in which we transgressed."

Christianity Etc › Re: Figs by PCHC(op): 3:07am On Mar 28, 2024
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Christianity Etc › Re: Fig 2 by PCHC(op): 3:06am On Mar 28, 2024
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Christianity Etc › Fig 2 by PCHC(op): 3:06am On Mar 28, 2024
FIGS 2[b]

[1 Adam+Eve 36:4] — Then the cherub took two figs and brought them to Adam and Eve. But he threw them to them from afar; for they might not come near the cherub by reason of their flesh, that could not come near the fire.[/b]

The "Social Distancing" the Cherub maintained while throwing the food or fruits to Adam and Eve was not for fear of infection but safety of Adam and Eve. Two most popular reasons the Lord or His Angels do keep "Social Distancing" in proximity to avoid to close contact even with people of God in their full manifest glorious appearance include:

*1* Holiness: Being too close would negatively affect the Holiness of the Lord or His Angels.

*2* Fiery Glory: Being too close would negatively affect the Health (Body) or Life of the People.

As a mortal man in flesh and blood, you can even get too close to the sun in its full glory and heat. The Lord told Moses to warn the people to keep Social Distancing and not be too close to Mount Sinai when the God came in thick darkness that still could not completely veil off the intensity of His appearance and Thunderous Voices and Shakings. The people could not even bear to see the face of Moses that had some of the glory on his face.

It was not leprosy that made Moses to be covering his face in rule of social distancing while relating with the people, but it was glory that was making Moses to hide or to cover his and isolate from them because of their inferior body. The way glorious women are made to wear complete hijabs or cover their glorious bodies because of men of weak bodies. So also, the Cherub put in some measure of Social Distancing by not coming too close to hand the gifts from heaven (garden) to them, but cast it to them on the ground as Manna that fell from heaven for them to pick them from the ground and eat them.

From a Distance, God is watching us, from a distance: Social or Safe Distance. Ask those who didn't abide the Ark of God closely.

[1 Adam+Eve 36:5] — At first, angels trembled at the presence of Adam and were afraid of him. But now Adam trembled before the angels and was afraid of them.

All have sinned and fell short of the glory of God. Mankind was deceived with promise of becoming like gods or angels in knowing good and evil, and instead mankind fell far below angels after Lucifer fell.

Mankind was in the Image of God and the likeness of God before, and all angels trembled and respected Adam then, who alone was the image reflection of Godhead among His creation. But by sin and fall of Adam, he is not the Image of God anymore, but the image of himself. His offspring bear his image/likeness to death.

[1 Adam+Eve 36:6] — Then Adam drew near and took one fig, and Eve also came in turn and took the other.

Yes, Adam and Eve took those which were given to them from above, but they drew nearer than they were to acquire them. Fear not, these were not fruits the Serpent offered them, but fruits the Lord offered them when they asked of Him.

As for Eve, she was no longer too forward to go first and get the fruits for herself and her husband. She waited for Adam to lead, but she was not expecting him to bring both his own and her own to her. Everyone one went to gather the Manna from heaven for his or herself.

[1 Adam+Eve 36:7] — And as they took them up in their hands, they looked at them, and knew they were from the trees among which they had hidden themselves.

As soon as Adam and Eve picked up their daily bread or Manna, they looked and knew exactly the trees where they were taken from, just as Adam knew where Eve was taken from as soon as he was gifted her.

Adam and Eve had it in them to discern or know where their gifts came from, including their food. Not all people knew or cared to know where their resources are sourced. The Church in the desert led by Moses ate Manna everyday, but the reason they call it by the name "Manna" was because they didn't know where details about it including not knowing where it came from, though knew it was from God. The Chairman of the Wedding in Cana did not know where the best Wine came from, but those who served him knew where it came from. To be frank, I have eaten and drank drinks and juices I did not know where they came from or the basic recipe or ingredients used in cooking them.

Adam and Eve knew trees by their fruits, and they knew you don't gather such figs from trees that not Fig-trees. As it is written,

[Luke 6:44 NKJV] — For every tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they gather grapes from a bramble bush.

Christianity Etc › Figs by PCHC(op): 2:36am On Mar 28, 2024
Figs


[1 Adam+Eve 36:1] — THEN God commanded the cherub, who kept the gate of the garden with a sword of fire in his hand, to take some of the fruit of the fig-tree, and to give it to Adam.

Notice that God ordered the same Cherub, that was assigned to keep mankind out of the garden, to bring some fruits of the Garden (Fruits of the Fig-tree) to the people he and his sword of fire should not allow inside the gate. A man went to an embassy for visa processing, and when he got to the gate two police with guns and two security officers where there to keep him from entering the embassy, the security officers where also there to bring things from inside the embassy to him outside whenever they receive the order from above. Would you say they were being difficult or being kind to the man?

You may have realized it's easier for angels to bring gifts/ things from heaven to people on earth, than for them to bring those people into heaven. When the Lord Jesus Christ promised and said, "Ask, and you shall receive; seek, and you shall find; knock, and the door will be opened to you" — That aspect that says the door will be opened to you if you knock, does not guarantee opening the door for everyone who knocked to enter, but only guarantees opening the door for everyone who knocked to receive either through the door or through the Porter (Gateman) at the door (gate). Infact, as far as it is heaven, you don't have to knock before you enter anywhere inside: Entrance is usually ministered to everyone who qualifies to enter anywhere in heaven before the person gets to the door or gate (2 Peter 1:11). It's as if the doors, the gates or the porters/gatemen already anticipate the worthy person's coming in before they get to them, and the doors open for the worthy person on their own accord like in "Acts 12:10" or like those doors that have sensors buried around their perimeter so that as soon as someone comes close and steps within the perimeter of their sensors the doors automatically opens for them. The doors in heaven that do not open in such ways are usually "Portals" or "Doors one just goes through" by entering into the doors/walls like bridges to enter into other realms/realities. Other doors in heaven that do not also open in such ways are usually "Decisions or Choices Doors" that is directly linked to people's destiny: These are doors everyone has to choose and open by choice to go through.

In heavenly communication, a person is usually invited or welcomed into any place or room just by the doors opening to the person. They usually don't send invitation cards, but sign of opening to whoever they want. E.g. Elijah and Elisha walking, Elijah saw the heavens opened, but Elisha was only busy making sure he saw Elijah when he was taken but was not concerned about whether the heavens where opened or inviting him also. In the book of Revelation (4), John saw the heavens opened, and the voice of the invitation, "Come up here." Opened Holy of Holies.

If you find people knocking on a door in heaven, it's either the door shall be opened to give them what they are asking for or they just do not have entrance which is why they knock. The Lord Jesus Christ did not promise entrance into heaven by knocking on the door, but promised opening the door to receiving by knocking:

[Luke 13:25-27] — "After the master of the house gets up and shuts the door, you will stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’ But he will reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’ Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ And he will answer, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers.’"

See Cherub instructed to bring fruits of the garden to Adam, but still mandated with the sharp flaming Sword to keep Adam out of it. Some of these angels bringing you blessings from heaven, wait till you meet them at the gates or doors into heaven, then you will know whether they are keeping their smiling faces and friendliness towards you trying to enter heaven. Even the Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible reference I just cited above used to eat and drink with those people, and was teaching in their streets and healing them, but suddenly at the Door He changed towards them and declared He does not know them, instead of giving entrance.

[1 Adam+Eve 36:2] — The cherub obeyed the command of the Lord God, and went into the garden and brought two figs on two twigs, each fig hanging to its leaf; they were from two of the trees among which Adam and Eve hid themselves when God went to walk in the garden, and the Word of God came to Adam and Eve and said unto them, "Adam, Adam, where are you?"

From those two Fig-trees where Adam and Eve hid themselves from the walking Presence of God in the cool of the day inside the garden: The same Fig-trees, who's leaves Adam and Eve sew apron and covered themselves while hiding from God because they knew they were naked by having eaten of the knowledge of good and evil tree that was forbidden by God to be eaten of man: It was from those two Fig-trees the Cherub brought two twigs of Fig to them, in obedience to the command of the Lord to the Cherub.

Now notice that even though Fig-trees have much leaves that could cover or hide Adam and Eve, yet the number of the leaves in the two twigs were equivalent to the number of fruits (figs) in the twigs that the Cherub brought out of the two Fig-trees in the Garden. In paradise, fruits are almost as abundant as the leaves in fruit bearing Tree.

There was a day it was not Adam that was hungry but the Lord Jesus Christ Himself was hungry. He saw a fig tree with many leaves from afar, and He was expecting many fruits as well from it. Since fig leaves are good in covering, after all they covered or hid Adam and Eve from the Lord in the garden, perhaps the leaves are also covering the fruits from Him walking in the cool of that day. But when He got there and searched thoroughly, no single fruit in the midst of all those multitudes of leaves as hypocrite. And the Lord cursed that Fig-tree, and took His hunger elsewhere.

[1 Adam+Eve 36:3] — And Adam answered, "O God, here am I. When I heard the sound of You and You Voice, I hid myself, because I am naked."

The Cherub knew or witnessed all these that transpired between God and Adam, hiding behind those Fig-trees. The Cherub was very much aware and deliberately chose those Fig Trees with those memories in the verse above.

The Lord did not punish nor cursed those Fig-trees in the Garden for hiding Adam and Eve from His Presence; and because the Lord did not curse the Fig-trees, "Man could yet eat of them." Infact, Adam and Eve were about to eat from the Fig-trees where they hid themselves and covered their unclothedness from God

But you see that Fig-tree the Lord Jesus Christ cursed, "No man shall ever eat of it." The case of that cursed Fig Tree became worse than the forbidden tree of knowledge of good and evil. The Forbidden Tree was not cursed, though forbidden; but that cursed Fig Tree was cursed and instantly dried up or died.

Christianity Etc › God's Word Comes Before His Solution In Reacting Or Responding To Human Challeng by PCHC(op): 9:36am On Mar 27, 2024
GOD'S WORD COMES BEFORE HIS SOLUTION IN REACTING OR RESPONDING TO HUMAN CHALLENGES, PROBLEMS OR NEEDS

[1 Adam+Eve 35:1] — THEN God looked again upon Adam and his weeping and groaning, and the Word of God came to him, and said unto him:--

God looked upon the sufferings, weeping and groaning, of all the people on earth by then; but it was not instant Solution of God that came to those suffering, rather it was the Word of God that came to them and began speaking of the cause (not solution) of their sufferings and convicting them of their sin against God.

I understand pastors, who's hearts are broken at seeing the people of God suffering, and the first thing they want to do is provide or prophesy instant solution, provisions, prosperity and miracles, for those people of God. Who doesn't want that for his congregation or family? However, you should bring the Word of God to them first to reprove them, before you bring relief, solution/provision. Let their pain or problem fulfill good purpose before resolving it.

Whether they are sick, hungry, whatever be the emergency, always let the Word of God speak to them to reprove or correct them into repentance before feeding them the relief or solution.

Now imagine if every Christian in the world would first speak the Word of God to beggars before giving alms/money to the beggars; first speak the Word of God to the sick before laying hands on them; first speak the Word of God to the Nations before providing solutions to their national problems; and first speak the truth of the Word of God to their church congregations/members before praying for them or blessing them like Samuel in this reference:

[I Samuel 12:23] — Moreover, as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you; but I will teach you the good and the right way.

Slight difference between how Elijah dished out miracles/solution to people and how Elisha dished out miracles/solution to people:

Elijah sought Reformation of the people first before he solved their problem, while Elisha dished out miracles/solution without demanding their reformation (repentance) or offerings. Infact, Elijah would even create problem for the people to force them into reformation/repentance before solving the problem he (Elijah) created: E.g., Elijah would shut up heaven so there would be no rain in a such way that even if all prophets or ministers prayed for years, God would not give the rain because Elijah insisted its only by his own word that rain would fall, and yet he was hidden where no one could reach him to open what he shut.

Oh fellow Christians and Disciples, let us not be too quick to give solutions or gifts to people without giving them the Word of God. Before the Lord Jesus Christ fed the five thousand people, He first fed them the Word of God for about three days. And when they sought Him again for another round of food, He gave them the true Bread of Life from Heaven that gives life, that is, The Word.

[1 Adam+Eve 35:2] — O Adam, when you were in My garden, you knew neither eating nor drinking; neither faintness nor suffering; neither leanness of flesh, nor change; neither did sleep depart from thine eyes. But since you transgressed, and came into this strange land, all these trials are come upon you."

This was the Word of God He preached to the hungry, thirsty, sickly/emaciated and suffering man first before the first time He fed them outside the garden.

*1* He spoke to the hungry, thirsty, sickly, emaciated and suffering man about the time or place (heaven on earth, paradise or garden) when/where there is no hunger, no thirsting, no failure of the body and no suffering;

This kind of message that glorifies heaven in contrast to the present earth would make the suffering man to set his mind or hope into seeking heaven where all the comforts are. The aim is instead of the suffering man getting the solution/provisions that would make him too comfortable on earth to the point he would not need or seek heaven/paradise, rather show him the realities and glories of heaven/paradise where he needs to be seeking for.

*2* He spoke to the hungry, thirsty, sickly, emaciated and suffering man about his sin and sins of mankind as the cause of all the problems befalling them in this strange land on earth.

Sin is not tolerated in heaven/paradise/garden, which is the reason those problems cannot befall anyone there. But you see this land where sin has room, those problems and death also have room over the sinners and the righteous in this land. Until God remove sin completely from the earth, the problems befalling men on earth would not completely be removed from the earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Four Elements Involved In Man's Fabrica by PCHC(op): 9:27am On Mar 27, 2024
Bestbrain123:
veil..! you said hahaha. what veil? One thing with religious fanatics is they don't accept they are teaching wrongly and blindly all they focus is their forge doctrine.
You see, accepting I am teaching wrongly when I am teaching rightly just because people classify my teaching wrongly - such acceptance is denying the true doctrine. People's feelings about my message should not decide or dictate the structure and presentation thereof, especially when the message is supposed to be the Word of God and not just the word of men.

Anyway, what makes you say we are teaching wrongly and blindly using my messages as case study? What are you seeing that we or I am not see as a blind man?
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[1 Adam+Eve 34:9] - O God, You made them obedient to me, and did order that not one of them break from my sway, according to Your commandment, and to the dominion which You have given me over them. But now they are all estranged from me.

The first earthly creatures God taught or commanded to honor, obey, submit to the head, higher authority, government or leader, God placed in hierarchy over them, were the living creatures. Before God commanded the woman to submit to her husband, He already commanded the living creatures to submit to the Adam, and to the authority and government of mankind in God's Image.

God's commandment to man was to not eat of the forbidden tree, and God's commandment to Animals was to subject selves to man. However, when Adam broke God's commandment, he lost mandate and dominion over the ground and living creatures of the ground.


[1 Adam+Eve 34:10] - Then it was in that third hour of Friday, in which You did create me, and didst command me concerning the tree, to which I was neither to draw near, nor to eat thereof; for You said to me in the garden, 'When you eat of it, of death you shall die.'

The same hour Adam was created, the same hour man became a living soul, that same hour Adam or man was told about his death if he sins/disobeys God's commandment about a tree to avoid.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:11] - And if You had punished me as You said, with death, I should have died that very moment.

Indeed God did not punish Adam with the death sentence His Law stipulated against the law breakers within that same moment, but it happened within that same day as God said: for a Day is 1000 years, and before Adam reached 1000 years the death struck him.

Stop saying Adam died spiritual death instead of the physical death in that he ate of the forbidden tree. Adam and Eve were still spiritually alive. Infact, Adam and Eve have never been spiritually dead even till now.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:12] - Moreover, when You commanded me regarding the tree, I was neither to approach nor to cat thereof, Eve was not with me; You had not Yet created her, neither had You yet taken her out of my side; nor had she yet heard this order from You.

I heard this saying, "If you educate a man you educate a individual but if you educate a woman you educate a nation." But I also heard the saying about women, who are ever learning but never able to come to knowledge of the truth (2 Timothy 3:6-cool. The same man that commanded women not to usurp authority in the church, but to learn from their husbands because Eve was not first formed, but was deceived. But God did not wait for Eve to be formed before giving the commandment, neither did God repeat the commandment in her presence to educate her directly from the Mouth of God. She only heard from Adam what God said or what God's Law was, and she got deceived by the serpent too.

Oh God, speak more directly to our women; disciple the women more, give them Your Words, and let them hear more directly from You than how much the devils, distractions, side attractions and the lusts of this world is speaking into them.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:13] - Then, at the end of the third hour of that Friday, O Lord, You did cause a slumber and a sleep to come over me, and I slept, and was overwhelmed in sleep.

The same hour Adam was created and made into a living soul, that same hour Adam was also made to fall into deep sleep and the woman to be made.

Remember a day is like a thousand years, and one hour is like many years in our human perspective of time here.


[1 Adam+Eve 34:14] - Then You did draw a rib out of my side, and created it after my own similitude and image. Then I awoke; and when I saw her and knew who she was, I said, 'This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; henceforth she shall be called woman.'

How did Adam knew all these things about Eve even though Adam was deeply asleep? It was by one of the spiritual gifts he received from God, and that is the spiritual gift called "Word of Knowledge" or simply "Knowledge." It's a gift that enables the receiver to know hidden secrets, details, history etc of a person, animal, creature or object, just by supernatural instance.

Adam was created in the image of God, but the woman (Eve) was created in the image and reflection of Adam (1 Corinthians 11:7). Eve was the first person to resemble Adam so that if you see the face of one of them you can tell the face of the other. Another person with striking resemblance to Adam was Abel and Seth, and perhaps their first daughter whom Cain married after killing Abel.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:15] - It was of Your good will, O God, that You brought a slumber and a sleep over me, and that You did forthwith bring Eve out of my side, until she was out, so that I did not see how she was made; neither could I witness, O my Lord, how awful and great are Your goodness and glory.

Even with his spiritual gifts and Word of Knowledge, Adam only knew her source and purpose and what to call her, but God kept the secret of how He made the woman from the man.

It's not just only about the Woman, but about every man and woman: God hides how He forms or makes a child from even the mother or father. He keeps the details secret, and works secretly when forming another man, woman or child from mankind.

[Ecclesiastes 11:5] — "As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the bones are formed in a mother’s womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."

Only God is allowed to see another man/woman while God is forming them into a living human being in their unformed state.

[Psalms 139:14-16 BSB] — "I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are Your works, and I know this very well. My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be."

Man can only see the unclothedness of the newly born/formed, but not see how God worked on it in the formation process.


[1 Adam+Eve 34:16] - And of Your goodwill, O Lord, You made us both with bodies of a bright nature, and You made us two, one; and You gave us Your grace, and did fill us with praises of the Holy Spirit; that we should be neither hungry nor thirsty, nor know what sorrow is, nor yet faintness of heart; neither suffering, fasting, nor weariness.

Adam and Eve were two that became one flesh or one body. They were naked but had bodies of Bright Nature, which is glory that swallowed the shame of unclothedness between them. Grace and Praise of the Holy Spirit filled them, and so they could not get hungry, thirsty nor faintness.

Adam rejoiced that Eve was given most of the grace and gifts he received; and he was satisfied that she was in his image, kind and likeness in almost all aspects. Some of the greatest joy in those days was seeing your offspring having striking resemblance and similarities in you as your reflection. I wish God still gives men and women their marriage partners that look exactly like them, so every one would marry his own reflection and character the in opposite gender.
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[quote author=Bestbrain123 post=129114527][/quote]This question of yours shows your mindset is not right even while you read. There's already prejudice in your reading of the Old Testament, which means there's veil over your eyes. Perhaps you should ask yourself whether you are also a gullible or unenlightened one.
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[1 Adam+Eve 34:1] — AND on the morning of the forty third day, they came out of the cave, sorrowful and weeping. Their bodies were lean, and they were parched from hunger and thirst, from fasting and praying, and from their heavy sorrow on account of their transgression.

From the time God drove mankind out of the Garden of Eden till this morning captured in the verse above, both Adam and Eve had not eaten nor drank anything; and it's over 42 days in the 43rd morning. Hence, 42 days dry fasting, prayers and mourning: let's say in the first full month and two weeks extra of the calendar.

They 've been fasting, mourning, sorrowing, weeping, self-afflicted and praying, in penance and penitence, regretting their sin.

This resulted in the leanness of their bodies, the very first bodies of man and woman emaciated: that's the second bodily alteration.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:2] - And when they had come out of the cave they went up the mountain to the west of the garden.

Inspite of the leanness of their bodies, hunger and dehydration, they were not too weak nor sick to come of their cave and climb up the nearest mountain to the Garden's Western Gate.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:3] — There they stood and prayed and besought God to grant them forgiveness of their sins.

They still stood up on the Mountain with supplication for the forgiveness of their sins. Notice that though the Supreme Judge had spoken the final verdict upon their sin and the Court finally decided they were still pleading. This implies though they sought the forgiveness of God over their transgression, it was not the fear of punishment/pain that inspired them, but rather it was the love and longing for who/what they lost that inspired their still seeking for forgiveness and restoration.

Losing your place in heaven with God is more painful than being in hell. Satan is more pained that he lost his place in heaven more than he seems to worry about his place in the lake of fire.

It's always better to seek forgiveness out of love than out of fear.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:4] - And after their prayers Adam began to entreat God, saying, "O my Lord my God, and my Creator, You did command the four elements to be gathered together, and they were gathered together by Your order.

Before any of us was born, Adam already knew God commanded creation and they obey Him. By the Commanding Word of God the creations were created and made. The Four Elements God ordered to gather together in the day God made Adam (Man) included: The Wind, the Earth, the Water, and the Fire.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:5] - Then You spread Your Hand and did create me out of one element, that of dust of the earth; and You did bring me into the garden at the third hour, on a Friday, and did inform me of it in the cave.

God did not create man out of nothing, but out of something He created man in His Image. It was from one of the four Elements that God created man as in "Manufactured or Fabricated man." God's Hand did Work in the Dust to formulate the man.

However, though one of the four Elements was the basic raw material for the production of the man's body, the presence of the other Elements were necessary for the man's life and soul: the Water for his life-blood, the Fire for his Eyes/Light, the Wind for his Breath of life.

All these happened on the 6th day (Friday) just before the next day (7th Day - Saturday) became God's Sabbath Day of Rest. It did not take God up to one hour to make the man. Infact, it was in the third hour of Friday, means about 3.am in the morning on the first Friday that Adam was made in God's Image, and raptured from the Earth's strange land into the Earth's Paradise (Garden of Eden).

And God communicated to the man how God made him and where God took him from, ensuring the man knew details of his origin and God also ensured the man knew details of the origin of the woman even though he was in deep sleep and not watching when God secretly made her. Man's been more believing to where God told him he came from than to where God told him he's headed.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:6] - Then, at first, I knew neither night nor day, for I had a bright nature; neither did the light in which I lived ever leave me to know night or day.

Adam knew the hour (time) then, but did not know the night; for he was in bright nature or glorious as light Though night or darkness was already created by God, yet evening and morning were all forming days, not night between evening and morning. The Fire Element in the nature of the Man made him come out in Bright Nature as Light or Angels. Angels are built with flames of fire, making them light or bright in nature.


[1 Adam+Eve 34:7] - Then, again, O Lord, in that third hour in which You did create me, You also brought to me all beasts, and lions, and ostriches, and fowls of the air, and all things that move in the earth, which You had created at the first hour before me of the Friday.

These living creatures were already created and made in the first hour of Friday when no man was. However, their existing without a man was like sheep without Shepherd or like a nation without a leader. To have all those living creatures on earth without man to head, rule or have dominion over them as king as well as over the earth, meant something about purpose and order was lacking. Before man was needed to till the ground, those living creatures invoked the need for a man in God's Image to preside over them.

However, just as it was not good for the living creatures and the ground to continue without a Man, so also it was not good for the man to be alone even though he was enjoying in paradise (garden of God). God had to resolve for both sides by bringing those living creatures to come to the man and stay under him where the man was, so that things would be very good when the living creatures are helping the man while the man is providing them leadership.

[1 Adam+Eve 34:8] - And Your will was that I should name them all, one by one, with a suitable name. But You gave me understanding and knowledge, and a pure heart and a right mind from You, that I should name them after Your own Mind regarding the naming of them.

You see the first task God gave to man which man successful completed and could say, he finished his course: Fulfilling the Will of God in assigning or ministering names to all living creatures God brought to the pastor (Adam) in the house of God (garden of Eden). He did and finished that assignment of God before he married a wife.

But when God gave him that task, God also gave him spiritual gifts and grace to do it perfectly to God's acceptable standard. The grace God gave to the very first man of God (Adam) as the minister of God to help God before God finished His Works of Creation or before God created the last one yet to be created, included:

*1* Gift of Wisdom/Understanding,

*2* Gift of Knowledge (Word of Knowledge) without the tree of knowledge of good and evil,

*3* Pure Heart — even though Adam had not sinned, yet the needed special Pure Heart to able to name God's creatures without transferring corruption in the creation that was good. Remember, what comes out of a man comes from his heart, and they defile the man, because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. For Adam's naming to equate God's spoken Word without having Adam in it, God had to give Adam the purity or holiness of heart that can speak the pure Word of God into the creatures without the defilement/impurity in the words of man.

*4* Right Mind — Even with the purity, wisdom, understanding and knowledge, God still gave to that minister or man of God the Right Mind or the Mind of God. This will enable him not just doing good, but doing good in the right mindset, right motive, mentality. kiss
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THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE [1 Adam+Eve]
Chapter 35

[God's reply.]

*1* THEN God looked again upon Adam and his weeping and groaning, and the Word of God came to him, and said unto him:--

*2* "O Adam, when you were in My garden, you knew neither eating nor drinking; neither faintness nor suffering; neither leanness of flesh, nor change; neither did sleep depart from thine eyes. But since you transgressed, and came into this strange land, all these trials are come upon you."

THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE [1 Adam+Eve]
Chapter 36

[Figs.]

*1* THEN God commanded the cherub, who kept the gate of the garden with a sword of fire in his hand, to take some of the fruit of the fig-tree, and to give it to Adam.

*2* The cherub obeyed the command of the Lord God, and went into the garden and brought two figs on two twigs, each fig hanging to its leaf; they were from two of the trees among which Adam and Eve hid themselves when God went to walk in the garden, and the Word of God came to Adam and Eve and said unto them, "Adam, Adam, where are you?"

*3* And Adam answered, "O God, here am I. When I heard the sound of You and You Voice, I hid myself, because I am naked."

*4* Then the cherub took two figs and brought them to Adam and Eve. But he threw them to them from afar; for they might not come near the cherub by reason of their flesh, that could not come near the fire.

*5* At first, angels trembled at the presence of Adam and were afraid of him. But now Adam trembled before the angels and was afraid of them.

*6* Then Adam drew near and took one fig, and Eve also came in turn and took the other.

*7* And as they took them up in their hands, they looked at them, and knew they were from the trees among which they had hidden themselves.

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THE FIRST BOOK OF ADAM AND EVE [1 Adam+Eve]
Chapter 34

[Adam recalls their creation, and also appeals for their food and drink.]


*1* AND on the morning of the forty-third day, they came out of the cave, sorrowful and weeping. Their bodies were lean, and they were parched from hunger and thirst, from fasting and praying, and from their heavy sorrow on account of their transgression.

*2* And when they had come out of the cave they went up the mountain to the west of the garden.

*3* There they stood and prayed and besought God to grant them forgiveness of their sins.

*4* And after their prayers Adam began to entreat God, saying, "O my Lord my God, and my Creator, You did command the four elements to be gathered together, and they were gathered together by Your order.

*5* "Then You spread Your hand and did create me out of one element, that of dust of the earth; and You did bring me into the garden at the third hour, on a Friday, and did inform me of it in the cave.

*6* "Then, at first, I knew neither night nor day, for I had a bright nature; neither did the light in which I lived ever leave me to know night or day.

*7* "Then, again, O Lord, in that third hour in which You did create me, You also brought to me all beasts, and lions, and ostriches, and fowls of the air, and all things that move in the earth, which You had created at the first hour before me of the Friday.

*8* "And Your will was that I should name them all, one by one, with a suitable name. But You gave me understanding and knowledge, and a pure heart and a right mind from You, that I should name them after Your own mind regarding the naming of them.

*9* "O God, You made them obedient to me, and did order that not one of them break from my sway, according to Your commandment, and to the dominion which You have given me over them. But now they are all estranged from me.

*10* "Then it was in that third hour of Friday, in which You did create me, and didst command me concerning the tree, to which I was neither to draw near, nor to eat thereof; for You said to me in the garden, 'When you eat of it, of death you shall die.'

*11* "And if You had punished me as You said, with death, I should have died that very moment.

*12* "Moreover, when You commanded me regarding the tree, I was neither to approach nor to cat thereof, Eve was not with me; You had not Yet created her, neither had You yet taken her out of my side; nor had she yet heard this order from You.

*13* "Then, at the end of the third hour of that Friday, O Lord, You did cause a slumber and a sleep to come over me, and I slept, and was overwhelmed in sleep.

*14* "Then You did draw a rib out of my side, and created it after my own similitude and image. Then I awoke; and when I saw her and knew who she was, I said, 'This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; henceforth she shall be called woman.'

*15* "It was of Your good will, O God, that You brought a slumber and a sleep over me, and that You did forthwith bring Eve out of my side, until she was out, so that I did not see how she was made; neither could I witness, O my Lord, how awful and great are Your goodness and glory.

*16* "And of Your goodwill, O Lord, You made us both with bodies of a bright nature, and You made us two, one; and You gave us Your grace, and did fill us with praises of the Holy Spirit; that we should be neither hungry nor thirsty, nor know what sorrow is, nor yet faintness of heart; neither suffering, fasting, nor weariness.

*17* "But now, O God, since we transgressed Your commandment and broke Your law, You have brought us out into a strange land, and has caused suffering, and faintness, hunger and thirst to come upon us.

*18* "Now, therefore, O God, we pray You, give us something to eat from the garden, to satisfy our hunger with it; and something wherewith to quench our thirst.

*19* "For, behold, many days, O God, we have tasted nothing and drunk nothing, and our flesh is dried up, and our strength is wasted, and sleep is gone from our eyes from faintness and weeping.

*20* "Then, O God, we dare not gather aught of the fruit of trees, from fear of You. For when we transgressed at first You did spare us, and did not make us die.

*21* "But now, we thought in our hearts, if we eat of the fruit of trees, without God's order, He will destroy us this time, and will wipe us off from the face of the earth.

*22* "And if we drink of this water, without God's order, He will make an end of us, and root us up at once.

*23* "Now, therefore, O God, that I am come to this place with Eve, we beg You will to give us of the fruit of the garden, that we may be satisfied with it.

*24* "For we desire the fruit that is on the earth, and all else that we lack in it."

Christianity Etc › Four Arms Of Destruction by PCHC(op): 12:50am On Mar 22, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:17]

So I will send against you famine and wild beasts, and they will bereave you. Pestilence and blood shall pass through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I, the Lord, have spoken.’” [Ezekiel 5:17 NKJV]

I will send famine and wild animals to attack you. You'll have no children left. Disease and killing will sweep over you, and I will bring armies to attack you. I the Lord have spoken.” [Ezekiel 5:17 FBV]

FOUR ARMS OF DESTRUCTION


Remember the idea of three or four Arms of Destruction, well it's confirmed "Four Arms of Destruction" and not just Three. They include:

1-(a) Famine
2-(b) Beast or Predators
3-(c) Pestilence or Plague (Epidemic)
4-(d) Sword or War (men killing men)

Again, as it is written,

[Ezekiel 14:21] — "For thus said the Lord GOD; How much more when I send My four sore judgments on Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from Jerusalem man and animal?"

In the book of Revelation, Death was riding on a Pale Horse, and Hell (Hades) was following Death about. And Death was using these four Arms of Destruction to massively collect people from the surface of the earth for both Death and Hell. As it is written,

[Revelation 6:7‭-‬8 FBV] — When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked and saw a pale horse. The rider was called Death, and Hades followed him. They received authority over a quarter of the earth to kill people by the sword, by famine, by plague, and by wild beasts.

Christianity Etc › Lessons From The Fall Of Jerusalem by PCHC(op): 12:17am On Mar 22, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:15]

‘So it shall be a reproach, a taunt, a lesson, and an astonishment to the nations that are all around you, when I execute judgments among you in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I, the Lord, have spoken. [Ezekiel 5:15 NKJV]

So it will be a disgrace, a taunt, a warning and an object of horror to the [pagan] nations who surround you when I execute judgments against you in anger and in wrath and in raging reprimands—I, the Lord, have spoken
. [Ezekiel 5:15 AMP]

JUDGING HIS PEOPLE IS ALSO WARNING THOSE WHO ARE NOT HIS PEOPLE

When God's Judgment began and executed the furious anger of God in that house of God, Jerusalem, what happened to the people of God then was like four things to the rest of the world around:

- 1 - It was a disgrace or shame on God's people;
- 2 - It was a Taunt for the world against God's people;
- 3 - It was a lesson or warning the world to learn
- 4 - It was a horrorful or astonishing to the world.

The nations and the world would still fear God when God judges His people with such destructive anger. It wouldn't make God lose His regards before the world even though it makes the people of God lose their regards or respect before the world.

Towards Jerusalem (the fallen People of God) the world and nations around would see what happened and taunt/mock them; but towards God the same world and nations around would see what happened and take warning or learn great lessons from it.

This is the warning or lessons all nations must take from God had dealt severely with Israel and Jerusalem in the past:

[Romans 11:11-22] — "I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come to the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify my office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? For if the first fruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if you boast, you bore not the root, but the root you. You will say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Be not high minded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not you. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness: otherwise you also shall be cut off."

Judgment of God must begin in the house of God and that would allow the rest of the world to take warning, and many outside the church would begin to fear God when they see how God severely punishes, judges and disciplines His own People. It would be like how those heathens in the ship feared God and worshipped Him as soon as they saw the way God dealt with Jonah and the storm of His anger was appeased only when Jonah was cast into the sea overboard to be isolated and dealt with more severely until he experienced hell in the base and in the beast.

Christianity Etc › The Shame And Disgrace Of Jerusalem by PCHC(op): 2:16am On Mar 21, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:14]

Moreover I will make you a waste and a reproach among the nations that are all around you, in the sight of all who pass by. [Ezekiel 5:14 NKJV]

I will make you a ruin and a disgrace among the nations around you, in the sight of all who pass by. [Ezekiel 5:14 BSB]

THE SHAME AND DISGRACE OF JERUSALEM

It's not just about pain but also about shame and reproach. Truly, God knows how to disgrace someone in the sight of people that once respected the person; and God also knows how to honor someone in the sight of people that once disrespected the person.

[Psalms 25:1-3 KJV] — Unto Thee, O LORD, do I lift up my soul. O my God, I trust in Thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me. Yea, let none that wait on Thee be ashamed: let them be ashamed which transgress without cause."

Behold the Lord sends His Messengers to bring His people out of shame, not to put them to shame. Part of His grace is to bring His people out of disgrace. Do not receive the Grace of God in vain, so you don't become vain or disgraced by the grace of God.

If a church is in ruins and disgrace, the pastors and prophets are to blame. Jerusalem was ruined and disgraced because of her pastors and prophets who were praying for Jerusalem and prophesy good things over her, but never exposed her sins to bring her out of her spiritual shame into repentance. Many pastors and prophets today are leading multitudes of Christians into shame and disgrace by praying for them and prophesying or declaring good things over them without exposing the sins of those Christians and warning against sin. This was the reason Jerusalem was disgraced because of such pastors and prophets who never exposes the sins of Jerusalem nor preach deeply against sins to her. As it is written,

[Lamentations 2:14‭-‬17]
[GNT]
Your prophets had nothing to tell you but lies; Their preaching deceived you by never exposing your sin. They made you think you did not need to repent.
[FBV]
Everyone who passes by mock you, clapping their hands, hissing and shaking their heads in scorn at the Daughter of Jerusalem. “Is this really the city that people called the perfection of beauty, the joy of all the earth?” they ask.
[GNT]
All your enemies mock you and glare at you with hate. They curl their lips and sneer, “We have destroyed it! This is the day we have waited for!”
[FBV]
The Lord has achieved what he decided; he has done what he warned he would. Just as he determined to do long ago, he has destroyed you, showing no mercy. He has allowed the enemy to gloat over your defeat, and he has given power to those who attack you.

Christianity Etc › Will The Troubles Satisfy Or End God's Anger? by PCHC(op): 2:06am On Mar 21, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:13]

‘Thus shall My anger be spent, and I will cause My fury to rest upon them, and I will be avenged; and they shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it in My zeal, when I have spent My fury upon them. [Ezekiel 5:13 NKJV]

Thus shall My anger be spent and I will cause My wrath toward them to rest and I will be eased and comforted. And they shall know, understand, and realize that I the Lord have spoken in My zeal, when I have accomplished My wrath upon them. [Ezek. 36:6; 38:19.] [Ezekiel 5:13 AMPC]

WILL THE TROUBLES SATISFY OR END GOD'S ANGER?


In this Bible verse above, the gospel is that God's angel and fury would eventually rest, be appeased, satisfied and comforted by the Great Tribulation and the Four arms of Destructive Judgment on Jerusalem.

You recall how God worked intensely for six days and finished His Works, and then rested on the Seventh day. That same way the great Tribulation would be the intensely pouring out of God's anger at once upon Jerusalem, meant then the anger of God would eventually and quickly be appeased, satisfied, fulfilled or finished.

[Revelation 15:1 ICB]
Then I saw another wonder in heaven. It was great and amazing. There were seven angels bringing seven troubles. These are the last troubles, because after these troubles God’s anger is finished.

This option may be intense and overwhelming, but it settles the anger of God faster than the option that comes one by one and yet the anger of God is not yet satisfied for long time. E.g. Look this Bible reference, where despite the much the Lord God anger had been destroying His People, yet His anger was not satisfied, and His Hand was stretched out still to continue striking His People in Judgment. As it is written,

[Isaiah 5:25, 9:13,17]
The Lord is angry with His people and has stretched out His Hand to punish them. The mountains will shake, and the bodies of those who die will be left in the streets like rubbish. Yet even then the Lord's anger will not be ended, but His Hand will still be stretched out to punish …..:...... Arameans from the east and Philistines from the west have greedily swallowed Israel up. Yet even then the Lord's anger will not be ended, but His Hand will still be stretched out to punish …..:...... As a result the Lord is not pleased with their youths, He has no mercy or pity for their orphans and widows, because all of them are hypocrites and they do what is evil—they all talk stupidly. Yet even in all of this the Lord's anger will not be ended, but His Hand will still be stretched out to punish …..:......

Christianity Etc › Do not Defile this Place by PCHC(op): 2:20am On Mar 20, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:11]

‘Therefore, as I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘surely, because you have defiled My sanctuary with all your detestable things and with all your abominations, therefore I will also diminish you; My eye will not spare, nor will I have any pity. — [Ezekiel 5:11 NKJV]

“Therefore, as I am the living God—this is the word of the Sovereign Lord—because you defiled my Temple with all the evil, disgusting things you did, I will cut you down without mercy. — [Ezekiel 5:11 GNT]

DO NOT DEFILE THE TEMPLE OF GOD


I don't have to say much in explaining this Bible verse above because this Bible verse below explains it perfectly.

[1 Corinthians 3:17] — "If any man defile the temple of God, God shall destroy that man; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are."

It's a lawful Judgment for God to destroy anyone who defiles God's temple, sanctuary or House of God where God dwells.

Listen, God values Mercy above Sacrifice/Judgment, but when it comes to Holiness and Mercy, God values Holiness above Mercy. Look again at the top Bible verse above carefully.

Don't make the mistake of defiling God's Holy Temple, which is your Body and any holy dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.

[I Corinthians 3:16‭-‬17 NKJV]
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

[I Corinthians 6:18‭-‬20 NKJV]
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

[II Corinthians 6:16‭-‬18 NKJV]
And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.” Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.” “I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty.”

Christianity Etc › Details of a Great Tribulation - Love Lost Between These by PCHC(op): 1:44am On Mar 20, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:10]

Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in your midst, and sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments among you, and all of you who remain I will scatter to all the winds. — [Ezekiel 5:9 NKJV]

As a result, parents in Jerusalem will eat their children, and children will eat their parents. I will punish you and scatter in every direction any who are left alive.
— [Ezekiel 5:10 GNT]

DETAILS OF A GREAT TRIBULATION

Is this or does this qualify for the "Great Tribulation" I hyped? Yes, it is or does.

Every Great Tribulation in the Bible was in a way related to the lost or failure of "Love in family and Relationships" especially between parents and children and between brethren. That is, to measure the degree of the Great Tribulation, you may weigh it to the degree of lost of love or degree of hatred between parents and children. So most of the times the Great Tribulation was talked about in the Bible, parents and children conflicting were somehow mentioned. For instance in these couple of Bible references below, note what is said about parents and children while expressing great tribulation.

[Mark 13:12‭-‬19 BSB] — Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rise against their parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by everyone because of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. So when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go back inside to retrieve anything from his house. And let no one in the field return for his cloak. How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! Pray that this will not occur in the winter. For those will be days of tribulation unmatched from the beginning of God’s creation until now, and never to be seen again.

Mark's Gospel captured it in more detail, but in Matthew's account for the same great tribulation, Matthew just summarize it as "Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold" (Matthew 24:12). That love that wax cold in Matthew's account is what Mark's account (cited above) described as brothers betraying brothers to death, fathers causing their children's death and vice versa. Another Bible reference about the great Tribulation also spoke of the failure of love or relationship between parents and children in this way, in addition to people loving only themselves and no one loving anyone else except being lovers of themselves (selfishness):

[2 Timothy 3:1-5] — "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."

So when we are talking about "Great Tribulation" and "Perilous Times" don't think it is about natural disasters, or pandemic, etc; rather Great Tribulation or Perilous Times is basically about lost or failure of Love in all ramifications of human relationships, resulting in betrayers, killings, covetousness, false accusations, hatreds, traitors, scarcity of love among people, which would in turn bring poverty, hunger, terrors, famine, deception, scams, falsehoods including false prophets, false pastors, false brethren.
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Now go back to the top Bible verse above, concerning the great Tribulation in Jerusalem.

It would be so terrible to the degrees beyond levels where a man's enemies being members of his own family (Matthew 10:36) to levels where a man's eater or predator is member of his own family.

Like children eating their own parents in cannibalism, and parents eating their own children like in "Resident Evil." This was the great Tribulation which would never be repeated again, but it was a greater punishment than the punishment that came upon Sodom and Gomorrah, which were destroyed at once.

Again, that Great Tribulation in Jerusalem described in the top Bible verse above was greater punishment than what Sodom and Gomorrah received before destruction. As it is written,

[Lamentations 4:6‭-‬13] — The punishment of the iniquity of the daughter of my people (Jerusalem) is greater than the punishment of the sin of Sodom, which was overthrown in a moment, with no hand to help her! Her Nazirites were brighter than snow and whiter than milk; They were more ruddy in body than rubies, Like sapphire in their appearance. Now their appearance is blacker than soot; They go unrecognized in the streets; Their skin clings to their bones, It has become as dry as wood. Those slain by the sword are better off Than those who die of hunger; For these pine away, Stricken for lack of the fruits of the field. The hands of the compassionate women Have cooked their own children; They became food for them In the destruction of the daughter of my people. The Lord has fulfilled His fury, He has poured out His fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion, And it has devoured its foundations. The kings of the earth, And all inhabitants of the world, Would not have believed That the adversary and the enemy Could enter the gates of Jerusalem— Because of the sins of her prophets and the iniquities of her priests (pastors), who shed in her midst The blood of the righteous.

Again, it was written,

[2 Kings 21:12] — "Therefore thus said the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil on Jerusalem and Judah, that whoever hears of it, both his ears shall tingle."

Christianity Etc › Great Tribulation by PCHC(op): 1:19am On Mar 20, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:9]

And I will do among you what I have never done, and the like of which I will never do again, because of all your abominations. — [Ezekiel 5:9 NKJV]

Because of all the things you do that I hate, I will punish Jerusalem as I have never done before and will never do again. — [Ezekiel 5:9 GNT]

GREAT TRIBULATION


When the Preacher that wrote the Bible Book of Ecclesiastes said, "The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun" [Ecclesiastes 1:9], that preacher had not known the revelation of "Great Tribulation."

Great Tribulation is an exception to that general principle, which the Preacher or Scribe of Ecclesiastes said in the alluded verse.

In the top Bible verse above, God declared He'd do in Jerusalem (House of God) something terrible that was never done before and that will never be done again. That's "Great Tribulation:"

* Why call it "Great?" — It's because it's never done before neither shall it be done after it. It's therefore great in magnitude and uniqueness.

* Why call it "Tribulation?" — It's because it's terrible, perilous.

However, even though the same great tribulation never reoccurs, there's another "Great Tribulation," different from the one in the top Bible verse above, yet to come not just upon Jerusalem but also upon the Churches and Christians and the world.

You may have heard some preachers say "Rapture comes before the Great Tribulation comes;" but the reason the Great Tribulation is even coming is primarily because of the fallen Churches and Christians, just as the reason why the great Tribulation in the Bible verse above was to come was because of Jerusalem.

Just as Jonah (prophet of God) was the reason the great storm came upon the Ship onboard to Tarshish, and not because of the unbelievers or heathens in the same ship: and as soon as Jonah was cast into the sea the storm disappeared — for Jonah, as the Churches, Pastors and Christians today, deviated from where God sent him and was going to Tarshish for prosperity and things of this world when destruction was about to wipe the greatest city in the world then in about 40 days.

*1* - *1* The fallen Churches and Christians would be the reason why God would allow the Great Tribulation come - But also,

*2* - *2* The true Churches and Christians (Elects) would be the reason why God would shorten the days the Great Tribulation and end the tribulation.

As it is written,

[Matthew 24:21-24 BLB] — "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, and never shall be. And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened. Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘Here,’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."

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Please remember the top Bible verse above recorded God also mentioning the reason for the great Tribulation in Jerusalem, House of God; and the reason was because they did the "Abominations God hates" among them. The Lord Jesus ordered one of His Servants (Apostle John) to write letters while the Lord Jesus Christ was doing the dictation for John to write in the letters addressed to Seven Churches. These were some of the things He hated which the Churches had in their midst:

* Neglecting First Love/First Works
* Deeds of the Nicolaitanes
* Blasphemy, which turns even Jews/Christians into Synagogue of Satan
* False Apostles, False Prophets, False Teachers
* Doctrine of Balaam or becoming Stumbling Block that makes other Christians fall or offend
* Idolatry and feeding from offerings to idols
* Fornication, sexual immortality and adultery
* Not being watchful, sensitive nor spiritually alert
* Lukewarm: Neither hot nor cold, full of worldly riches and carnality, but miserable in spiritual.

Christianity Etc › Re: At Least Choose Righteous Laws Of Others For You by PCHC(op): 1:09am On Mar 19, 2024
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Christianity Etc › At Least Choose Righteous Laws Of Others For You by PCHC(op): 1:08am On Mar 19, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:7]

Therefore thus says the Lord God: ‘Because you have multiplied disobedience more than the nations that are all around you, have not walked in My statutes nor kept My judgments, nor even done according to the judgments of the nations that are all around you’— [Ezekiel 5:7 NKJV]

“So this is what the Lord God says: You caused more confusion than the nations around you. You did not follow My rules or obey My laws. You have not even obeyed the laws of the nations around you. — [Ezekiel 5:7 ICB]


ATLEAST CHOOSE RIGHTEOUS LAWS OF OTHERS FOR YOU

Atleast, if that Jerusalem did not like God's Laws and Ordinances, they should have adopted the righteous laws and ordinances of the surrounding nations — that would have been better than the city becoming lawless. The surrounding nations may not have been following the laws of God through Moses, but they have their own laws, justice system and ordinances that police and penalize sin against men among them. Though these laws and ordinances of the surrounding nations were not perfect for God's standard of Righteousness, Justice, and Holiness, yet they were better than lawlessness and wickedness in a lawless society.

Not saying one should abandon God's Laws and Ordinances, and rather choose traditional/foreign laws. For instance, the first African to be president of America was forcing Africans to accept the laws of Americans and Europe that legalized Sodomy and same self marriage; but the Africans wisely rejected that foreign law because it was against the foundation of the core values that define the Race that makes African People Uniquely different.

My point is, even if you are having problem in living by God's Law and Ordinances through Moses, then there are other sets of Laws, Ordinances, Ethics, Codes of Practice and Principles of God you can still be living by, so that you don't become lawless. To be lawless is to be wicked or antichrist. Antichrist is the lawless one.

Among Christians, you may hear some saying, "We are not under the law (of Moses) but under grace;" True, but why sin and become wicked or lawless under grace (Romans 6:15).

"Grace" is not lawlessness, rather Grace is the benefits and maximization of the rewards of one man's obedience to the law, whereby others can share in those benefits or rewards through faith without already done works or without having to reobey the same law that was already obeyed and fulfill by Christ Jesus. It's like whoever does this work or law earns these rewards, but yet every man do not have to do the work or law if only one man has done the work or law and he's willing to share the benefits with others without asking them to pay. It's like a street light, for which one man paid the bills but instead of making only him to enjoy the light he paid for, he realized he could position the same light in ways that others around there do not have to pay for their own light to benefit from it because it doesn't diminish benefits.

Grace means you are not under the law but you are under the Man of Law, who fulfils the Law. He is the one fulfilling the Law, but you are the one renting or benefiting from what He's doing through faith that obeys Him without direct dealing with the law.

(1.) To be under the law is bondage or curse, but

(2.) To be without law or lawless is wickedness or immoral

So don't be under the law, but also don't be lawless: have some rules, principles, discipline, ethics, integrity, faith, virtues, codes, Conscience etc that serve as 'Instructions of Destiny' for your life/death pathways.

We are talking about Jerusalem that did not continue with God's Laws, Ordinances, and yet she did not fill the void with the laws or ordinances of the neighboring countries or even the laws of animals with discipline, ethics and wisdom that mankind could learn from, such as the Ants, the Eagles, Serpents, Doves etc.

Learn to adopt other people's laws briefly in order to win them, but never be without the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. As it is written,

[1 Corinthians 9:19-21 BSB] — "Though I am free of obligation to anyone, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), to win those under the law. To those without the law I became like one without the law (though I am not outside the law of God but am under the law of Christ), to win those without the law."

Your true circumcision is tied to your having a law that guides the ways you live through life. If your penis is circumcised but you have no law you keep by your own self discipline to the pleasure and will of God, then the circumcision of your penis is useless.

[Romans 2:25-27 BSB] — "Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker."

Atleast conscience is there as a law to guide you through the difference between right and wrong, and between righteousness and unrighteousness. As it is written,

[Romans 2:13-16 BSB] — "For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them. This will come to pass on that day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel."

Christianity Etc › Degeneration Of Jerusalem by PCHC(op): 12:57am On Mar 19, 2024
[Ezekiel 5:6]

And she has changed My judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and My statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused My judgments and My statutes, they have not walked in them. [Ezekiel 5:6 AKJV]

But Jerusalem rebelled against My commands and showed that she was more wicked than the other nations, more disobedient than the countries around her. Jerusalem rejected My commands and refused to keep My laws.
[Ezekiel 5:6 GNT]


DEGENERATION OF JERUSALEM

The 'middling Jerusalem' that's always in the midst or surrounded by nations did not remain a righteous city in their midst but became the most unrighteous and the most wicked city in the midst of the nations surrounding her. The surrounding nations were not much violating the Judgments, the Laws and the Commandments of God compared to how much Jerusalem in their midst were violating and rebelling against the Laws and Ordinances of the Supreme Court or Supreme Being. The Bible verse above corroborates this.

Disregarding the Laws, Ordinances and Judgments of God makes people become degenerate. This was not a case of evil corrupts good manners; rather it was a case of departing from the Laws and Judgments of God degenerates the good.

The city that was supposed to be the light in the midst of the nations surrounding her, became grossly darkness. Instead of being the city of righteousness to its surrounding nations or neighboring countries, Jerusalem because the Resident Evil city in their midst, corrupting the surrounding.

How did that Jerusalem get so degenerate in the midst of the surrounding nations? How did that city became so morally robbed considering the city has custody of the greatest temple of God on earth in her, has the best collection of wisdom, justice system, laws, ordinances, culture, tradition and priesthood system? What more was needed spiritually and morally that was not available to her?

Like someone said, "Judas Iscariot had the best Pastor, the best Teacher, the best Master (Jesus Christ) and yet Judas Iscariot turned out the worst student, evil goat, a most corrupt and indisciplined disciple." Is it that the Teacher or Pastor did not know how to teach or shepherd? He was the best.

The Sower sowed the good seeds, but the grounds that received the same seeds brought forth different results and harvests: some brought forth thorns and Tares, some brought nothing at all as if nothing good was ever sown there, some managed to bring forth thirty fold and sixty fold, but there are those who brought forth 100 fold.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most People Fear Death, Yet It's The Way To Heaven? by PCHC(m): 6:16pm On Mar 17, 2024
kingxsamz:
The fact is those who believe in heaven don't really want to go there because they know how insanely boring it'll be. It's almost like torture. Imagine living for eternity in one place, serving a god forever with no football, movies, parties, games, music from your favourite artists, concerts, phones or social media. Your only purpose is to praise and worship a god for eternity. And I'm sure most people who believe in heaven and hell would rather prefer to die and become nonexistent than to exist in heaven forever. it's just that hell is not favourable, so they can only go with the better choice.
That's why pastors move around with body guards and armed men because they don't want to d!e. It's why they collect tithes and attain wealth because they know they won't have that experience in heaven. Good thing it doesn't exist.
Your whole imagination of heaven is vain and foolish. There is nothing boring about heaven. Infact, there are more varieties of things and activities in heaven and spiritual realms than there are yet in the physical world of mankind.

But even if it is about doing the same things in even, it is far from being boring. For instance, if a man is doing the same thing on earth repeatedly, it gets boring because it is part of the works of the earth to be consumed with boredom and vanity. But on the other hand, doing the same thing over and over in heaven never generates boredom but generates wonders and more revelation of glory the more the same thing is repeated.

I really do not want to call you a fool, but you are really far from true realities of the presence of God and the heavens.
Christianity Etc › Re: They Overcame In Words Of Testimony by PCHC(op): 12:16am On Mar 14, 2024
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