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Christianity EtcRe: God Has Done It Again by PDBonline(op): 11:11am On Dec 07, 2016
That's your experience. This one is online transfer. NOTHING LIKE POSSIBILITY. It states it was a transfer.
foladara777:
Actually, I paid to a zenith account yesterday and the person didn't receive the alert until this morning, he called and told me himself so there is a big possibility it was not online transfer, it might be network ish..
And plsss, I don't need to ask why the 'testifier' believed it was God because that's how Christians think... U survive a ghastly accident, u claim it's God, but that same God failed to save the other casualties and on a day one of your loved ones die in an accident, u claim it's the devil- an act of the devil God failed to stop
Why not address the question whether people that pray always get their money back
And BTW, created a thread yesterday, the other Christians could not even attempt to respond, maybe u give it a try
Christianity EtcRe: God Has Done It Again by PDBonline(op): 8:03am On Dec 07, 2016
foladara777:
Actually, if you got the alert this morning, it's likely the person paid at the bank yesterday before 4pm... So it wasn't your prayers getting answered.. Or u think people that don't pray never get their money back or people that pray always get their money back??
No, you didn't think about online transfer. And why didn't we get the money paid until we decided to pray.
The fellow hasn't even contacted us that payment has been made.

By the way God doesn't have to wait till we pray to do it because being God also means He knows we will decide to pray. In the Bible God said "Before they call I will answer." Otherwise many things will be too late. It is because He can start doing things before we notice the need to pray that NOTHING CAN BE TOO LATE to pray about.
Christianity EtcGod Has Done It Again by PDBonline(op): 7:49am On Dec 07, 2016
Someone has been owing us for months. Last night, before going to bed, the issue came up again and we decided to bring God into it because whatever other options we may have can soil an important relationship to us.

So last night we prayed in the name of Jesus for God's provision for the person and asked that God will put it in the person's mind to pay the amount owed. Very early this morning we got the alert. The money was paid in full!

Experiences like this and the one I shared in my previous post makes me think that atheists don't know what they are missing. When you don't know what you are missing, you think you are missing nothing. Ignorance is truly costly.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 2:57pm On Dec 03, 2016
engrtee:
some christians can go at any lenght to convert one including manufacturing and remixing stories
Interesting how people suddenly concludes that any story not agreeing with their believe must be cooked up.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 2:44pm On Dec 03, 2016
foladara777:
So God has the power to save all people but chooses to leave them to roast eternally... Or he doesn't have the power?
If God chooses to leave them to roast eternally I will not be chatting with you because I do this as one of those God has sent to call you back to Him.

God sends messengers. If you decide not to listen to them, it will not be God's responsibility what happens to you. Mercy and Judgement are not "words and opposite". They are both the nature of God. You somehow think you are more caring than God?
Christianity EtcRe: Seun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 8:32am On Dec 03, 2016
foladara777:
So other people that have died without being 'saved' were not wanted by God.... Cool!
First: the guys statement has no biblical basis.
Second: God gave humans ability to reason and make decisions. He is not a usurper. He doesn't violate people's will. God is not responsible for our predicament but He saves.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 7:08am On Dec 03, 2016
KAPOVee:
U DON'T HAVE TO TELL SEUN ABOU' YOUR ORDEAL WITH..WHEN GOD WANTS HIM HE'LL HAVE HIM[SEUN]
Nathaniel brought Philip to Jesus by sharing his experience. The Samaritan woman brought many to Jesus by sharing her experience. Jesus sent back the delivered demon-possessed man to share his story.

I'm not sure what you intend achieving by this comment in a post adressed to atheists, not believers. However, not everyone who make religious posts on Nairaland have a carnal purpose for so doing. U should have contacted me privately. This for me, is a distraction.
Christianity EtcRe: Seun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 10:34pm On Dec 02, 2016
soulpeppersoup:
No man can convict another. Your job is to preach not to convict. Stick to it
Of course.
Christianity EtcSeun You Don't Think God & Angels Are Real? Pls Read This by PDBonline(op): 10:10pm On Dec 02, 2016
I lost a file containing very important documents and searched for it to no avail.

After ten days I was going somewhere and my heart was troubled because of the file. Time was running out for what I needed to use the document for. At that moment, I quietly prayed "Lord, please send an angel to help me get the file" and continued my journey.

I got to a place where some people are reading and was about passing when I felt an inner pull to turn and look inside.
When I did, I saw the folder right there and one of the slabs.

I got in to confirm it was truly nine and saw all my documents intact.

Then I turned to a guy reading behind where the file was to ask if he knew who brought it. His answer was even more surprising,

" A guy came in, dropped it and went out."
Christianity EtcGod Spoke To Me About My Academics by PDBonline(op):
It doesn't matter the challenges we go through in life, God is always there. He is not like us that's why we can't always figure out His reasons for allowing certain things to happen.

Some have gone through very rough situations and concluded there is no God. I can't because I've heard his voice.

I was in a place where I was praying all alone. Actually, I was just worshipping God when suddenly He spoke to me. He said I should not be afraid of the results of my assessment tests, that I will succeed in the promotion exam. It was so clear I thought someone was speaking physically but I was alone. The statement was with such authority I couldn't mistaken Who spoke to me.

After that, I had challenges with my assessment tests that could trigger fear because they could prevent me from writing the promotion exam talk less pass it but God Who knows the end had spoken. Somehow,everything turned in my favour and I was allowed to write the exam and, of course, passed.
Christianity EtcRe: “God Will Remove Your Name From Book Of Life If You Do MMM'' - Guy Cries Out by PDBonline: 7:29pm On Dec 01, 2016
Ochoiho:
'Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it'.Math 7:13

I no de do MMM again.
What passage of the Bible are you basing your decision on? What somebody else said God told him? Didn't you read where Paul said "even if an angel from heaven brings another gospel different from what has been preached, let him be accursed" ?

What exactly is sin about MMM for Christians? People make 30% profit of selling product. What is wrong in receiving similar reward for releasing what you have to help someone else.

You may not do MMM and be greedy but it is not everyone doing mmm that is greedy. Some of us see it as a solution to lack of funds in the society because money only circulates among very few people while others are forced to serve them.

IF YOUR CONSCIENCE WAS PRICKED BEFORE BECAUSE OF MMM YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT. But people should learn to stop taking personal stuffs as doctrine. If you value vision more than "It is written" then you will certainly be deceived.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline(op): 1:52pm On Nov 30, 2016
[quoteGeneticists, anthropologists, developmental psychologists, sociologists, endocrinologists, neuroscientists, medical researchers into gender, and twin study researchers are in broad agreement about the role of genetics in homosexuality. Genes don’t make you do it. There is no genetic determinism, and genetic influence at most is minor. Individualistic reactions to random factors are very important.[/quote]http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm

The purple highlights actually seems to be the summary of the whole collection of thousands of 20-year studies. Things happen and an individual's response to such event happened to homosexual orientation. Environmental influences like I stated above are the most powerful influences discovered. But it is ultimately depends on how that individual responds based on how the event was interpreted in his/her mind.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline(op): 1:38pm On Nov 30, 2016
Neuroscientists are finding that the brain is extraordinarily plastic. The scientific consensus now is that even as an adult, we are what we are making our brains even though we may not be aware of the constant ongoing process. These changes in microstructure are visible in brain scans, within months.
If differences are found between homosexual and heterosexual brains they could easily be the result of years of conditioning (repeated thinking patterns and behaviour).
http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm
Christianity EtcRe: Interpretation Of Tongues Spoken In "Way Maker" By Sinach by PDBonline: 7:17pm On Nov 29, 2016
New York Times, Studies shows
1. Christians speaking in tongues are not personally forming those phrases
2. Those speaking in tongues rarely have mental problems unlike those who don't.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/11/07/health/07brain.html
Christianity EtcRe: People Speaking In Tongues Rarely Have Mental Problems - Studies, NY Times by PDBonline(op): 7:05pm On Nov 29, 2016
Mr Seun don't just read this post let's know what you think. Plus try to read the whole just on New York Times.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline(op): 6:59pm On Nov 29, 2016
Foladara777
Christianity EtcRe: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline(op): 6:45pm On Nov 29, 2016
This is a summary of more than 20 years of scientific research into homosexuality. It draws on more than 10,000 scientific papers and publications from all sides of the debate.
The research is orthodox, and objective.
It is essentially a summary of our book, My Genes Made Me Do It! - a scientific look at sexual orientation (published USA, 1999, revised 2010, 2013 and kept current on this website. )
* SSA is shorthand for Same Sex Attraction, OSA for Opposite Sex Attraction

Those researchers who know most about genes and same sex attraction say “Your genes did not make you do it”. Let’s review the evidence bearing in mind that many of the following arguments apply to all human behaviours. These summary statements are much more deeply explored in each chapter.

Change

The huge amount of change in sexual orientation is one of the clearest evidences that homosexuality is not hard-wired by genes or anything in the biological environment.
Large studies now show that:

For adults:
About half of those with exclusive SSA move towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. Put another way, 3% of the practising heterosexual population (both men and women) claim to have once been either bisexual or homosexual.
These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen “naturally” in life, some very quickly.
Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.
Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive OSA are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and exclusive SSA people combined. In other words, “Ex-gays outnumber actual gays.”
Exclusive OSA is 17 times as stable as exclusive SSA for men, and 30 times as stable as exclusive SSA for women. (Women move about more in their sexual orientation than men.)
For adolescents:

Most teenagers will change from SSA. In fact, in the 16 to 17 year age group, 98% will move from homosexuality and bisexuality towards heterosexuality.
16 year olds saying they are SSA or Bi-attracted are 25 times more likely to say they are opposite sex attracted at the age of 17 than those with a heterosexual orientation are likely to identify themselves as bi-sexual or homosexual.
16-year olds who claim they are opposite sex attracted will overwhelmingly remain that way.

Genes

Twin Studies:
These very complex comparisons of identical twins and non-identical twins definitively rule out genetic determinism. Identical twins with identical genes are about 11-14% concordant for SSA. If homosexuality were “genetic,” identical co-twins of homosexual men and women would also be homosexual 100% of the time...
Source (contains far more information ):http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm
Christianity EtcRe: People Speaking In Tongues Rarely Have Mental Problems - Studies, NY Times by PDBonline(op): 3:45pm On Nov 29, 2016
A Neuroscientific Look At Speaking In Tongues, New York Times:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/11/07/health/07brain.html
Christianity EtcPeople Speaking In Tongues Rarely Have Mental Problems - Studies, NY Times by PDBonline(op): 3:42pm On Nov 29, 2016
Source: New York Times

Contrary to what may be a common perception, studies suggest that people who speak in tongues rarely suffer from mental problems. A recent study of nearly 1,000 evangelical Christians in England found that those who engaged in the practice were more emotionally stable than those who did not. Researchers have identified at least two forms of the practice, one ecstatic and frenzied, the other subdued and nearly silent.

The new findings contrasted sharply with images taken of other spiritually inspired mental states like meditation, which is often a highly focused mental exercise, activating the frontal lobes.

The scans also showed a dip in the activity of a region called the left caudate. “The findings from the frontal lobes are very clear, and make sense, but the caudate is usually active when you have positive affect, pleasure, positive emotions,” said Dr. James A. Coan, a psychologist at the University of Virginia. “So it’s not so clear what that finding says” about speaking in tongues.

The caudate area is also involved in motor and emotional control, Dr. Newberg said, so it may be that practitioners, while mindful of their circumstances, nonetheless cede some control over their bodies and emotions.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 2:37pm On Nov 29, 2016
Bye pls.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 2:36pm On Nov 29, 2016
akintom:
Why are you so consumed with complex.

What makes you think, that i can't point out your error to you?

You didn't read my response to you with understanding, that's why you're claiming infallibility now.

I told you that the design of the study i posted is different from the one you're referring me to.

A montessori pupil knows that there's is no basis, of comparison between two studies, with different research designs.
1. I don't have any reason to claim infallibility and I didnt so don't bother trying to say I did.
People can discuss without trying to demean someone else.

2. Read the link on Wikipedia and you will understand how they are related. The link you posted is not the research. It's dailymail an online news paper. Okay.

In the end it is how objective the interpretation is what what obtains in real life that counts and that studies conclusion holds no ground. There are better conclusions that can be drawn from it. Follow the Wikipedia link : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 2:25pm On Nov 29, 2016
What's even so special about IQ test? It is very misleading. That's why thrre are so many other tests of intellegience than the popular IQ score.

You will see school drop-outs showing great business intelligence, very skilful with vocationals and so on.
There is more to life than being a scientist, academician or top manager.

Imagine how many "low IQ" people are paying the salaries of those with high IQ.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 1:48pm On Nov 29, 2016
A studies from Havard shows that Cognitive Style rather than IQ reveals why peolle change what they believe and gravitate towards theism or atheism : http://www.anth.uconn.edu/degree_programs/ecolevo/divineintuition.pdf

To have many researches on the subject in one place just Google religiousity and intelligence, Wikipedia : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

akintom if you finished reading the Wikipedia article and still believe in the hasty conclusions of researchers published on dailymail then...
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 1:14pm On Nov 29, 2016
akintom:
Irrelevant stuff to this thread.

You're still confirming the study (lack of discipline in thinking and reasoning),
Just to let you know you can't just lump everyone together and say "Christians". It follows up on the Forbes link
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 1:07pm On Nov 29, 2016
foladara777:
Hello. It's me again... Plss address the actual statistics adduced by the Op... The one that says atheists generally have higher IQ than theists... There are loopholes in every study, I know u can find them, when u do, list them and let us address them
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/08/24/the-myth-of-the-smarter-atheist/
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 1:02pm On Nov 29, 2016
foladara777:
So there is a relationship between Christianity and emotional intelligence. And there is a relationship between emotional intelligence and success. Why are Christians not the most successful in the world??
The study is not comparing Christianity with other religion in success. It is to show that the more matured people get in their Christian faith the better their emotional intelligence in the workplace.
I mentioned it so you'll know you can't just lump everyone together and say "Christians" in researches of this nature.
akintom
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 12:44pm On Nov 29, 2016
akintom:
Do you for any reason know something about research DESIGNS?

can you review different researches with different designs together?
Why asking me such a rude question. Are you that arrogant? If I don't know anything I will (and I have been) quoting the works of those who do. Just follow the links I am assisting you and your cohorts with. Then come back and teach me what is wrong with their analysis instead of distracting yourself about me okay. That's if you really want to learn.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 12:26pm On Nov 29, 2016
This Is A Scientific Analysis and Interpretion of A Studies (Quoted By Wikipedia)

One of the few peer reviewed scientific articles I could find on the topic had the straightforward name, “Average intelligence predicts atheism rates across 137 nations.” This article analyzes IQ and religiosity data from “137 countries that represent 95% of the world population” and claims to show that nations with more intelligent citizens tend to have more Atheists. I plotted the data from that article below.

iq-vs-religiosity-worldwide

(for the statistics nerds, the R^2 on a linear regression = 0.352)

What we see is a fairly weak relationship between national religiosity and average national IQ. Once we get up to about 20% of the population being Atheist, the IQ of the population flatlines at around 100 from then on. Even worse, in the ~0% Atheist range, there’s a wide range of national IQs from 64 to 100+ — with a cluster of low-IQ nations that appear to be driving the “trend.”

If we focus on the lowest IQ nations in the above chart, we notice that several of them are poor nations in e.g. Africa. That led me (and others who have reviewed the topic) to wonder whether the wealth of a nation better predicts the average intelligence of its citizens. After all, the more wealthy the average citizen is, the more time they have to dedicate to intellectual pursuits.

iq-vs-gdp-worldwide

(R^2 on a linear regression = 0.449; income per capita data from GapMinder)

Indeed, if we look at income per capita instead of religiosity, we already see a much better correlation with average IQ. The correlation between religiosity and IQ is too weak to suggest that religiosity predicts intelligence on the national level. Anyone who claims otherwise is grasping at straws.
Source: Randy Olson, Artificial Intelligence Researcher : http://www.randalolson.com/2014/08/24/the-myth-of-the-smarter-atheist/
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 12:06pm On Nov 29, 2016
2. Significant relationship between Christian Spiritual Maturity and Emotional Intelligence
http://gradworks.umi.com/37/23/3723416.html
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 11:48am On Nov 29, 2016
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 11:35am On Nov 29, 2016
There is a difference between conducting a scientifically sound research and giving it a non-biased interpretation. It's absurd anyone links religious belief to IQ and then try to make it look like it's a cause for lower employment status.

By the way, what research shows now is that emotional intelligence (simply put: ability to efgectively work in and with a team) is the real predictive factor for career success not intelligence quotient.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by PDBonline: 11:27am On Nov 29, 2016
Your point huh

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