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Evergreen123: yorubas lack brains n brawns in all ramifications, please can u tell us what u have done for this nation other than creating hatred?
the zengy guy beat u hands down and u are yet to address his last post accordingly.
Banjo was determined to go n kill ironsi but was caught and u are here telling me he saw some handwriting.
Truth is, 2 yorubas were involved in the plan but they failed in their attempts not that they backed out.
It wasn't an Igbo coup.
Its only outsiders u can confuse with ur age long cowardice in the name of brawn theory.
Nigeria has been bedeviled with problems, yet a Yoruba is yet to solve one.
Brain indeed

I congratulate you for scoring A+ in rashness, stupidity, chickishness and incoherence in school. Make sure you pass it down your family tree. However, let me advise you that when enlightened and level-headed people,are in a discourse, it pays people of your low cognitive reasoning to stand aside and learn.

zendy: You are the ignorant one. Like I said before,most of the officer corps at the time were Igbos. It would have been near on impossible to conduct a coup and Igbos would not be heavily involved. You conveniently called it an Igbo coup even though 2 of the major ring leaders were Yorubas. Why didn't you call it an Igbo/Yoruba coup? Also is the fact that unlike all other coups that followed,the coup plotters did not want power for themselves. They only wanted to remove the bad "eggs".You can go on YouTube and and search about that coup and see what the conspirators confessed to while in jail,they wanted Awolowo in charge. You asked why the coup plotters didn't kill other people from the east? Well for starters,neither Zik or Okpara were in town then,Infact,Zik was abroad at the time on official assignment. Also, the GOC of the Nigerian Army at the time,Ironsi,an Igbo man was targeted. It was Victor Banjos duty to kill Ironsi but he goofed. Victor Banjo was arrested as he made his way to Ironsi's bed chamber in dead of the night with a corked machine gun. Why would they want to kill Ironsi if this was an Igbo coup? Who even stopped this coup? Wasn't Igbo soldiers like Ironsi,Nwawo and Ojukwu?This connotation that it was an Igbo coup is baseless. Even if for the sake of aguement that this was an Igbo coup,can the Igbo nation be blamed for the actions of a few officers? I think not. You said that the declaration of republics has led nowhere,of course it had led no where because the Yorubas have always colluded with northerners to scuttle it each time. The fact that Yorubas want to be slaves to 'one Nigeria' doesn't mean that the rest of us want the same.The attempt at freedom is one of the greatest life choices a people can make and the fact that Yorubas have consistently thrown away their sovereignty (first to the British and now to the northerners) is exactly why most Igbos think that cowardice is an inherent trait amongst the Yorubas. Your so called "It takes people with brains and brawns for meticulous plans before taking the plunge into the unknown " is a speech worthy of a true coward. In almost 55 years of nationhood,we have massive corruption,incompetence in government and over 60% living below the porverty line and you Yorubas are still trying to figure out the unknown with your brains and brawns? Real swell! You also criticised people like MASSOB and BZM for their attempts at demanding freedom for Igbos. For a people like Yorubas who are yet to emancipate themselves from the mental bondage that is Nigeria,what these people are doing will look silly. Yet against the incessant crack down by Nigerian officials,these groups continue their agitation to their GOd given right to self determination. Nothing could be more noble. One last thing I want to add is this "Ojukwu ran away" statement people keep harping about all the time. When it looked like the war would be lost,many Biafran officers decided that they would continue guerrilla warfare rather than capitulate. If Ojukwu had not stepped aside,the war might have still been on now. If Ojukwu had stayed back to be slaughtered,many die hard Biafran soldiers would have fought to the death and a blood bath would have happened on an even bigger scale. Ojukwu left and Biafra surrendered the next day bringing peace. A soldier who lives,lives to fight another day. Someday,I hope the Yoruba nation will revive the spirit of an Oduduwa country because Nigeria is already a lost cause but until then,Igbos and Yorubas will always view each other with mutual suspicion and contempt

One thing i cannot deny you is this - you certainly know how to make excuses for faults and failures. It also baffles me that with your assumed education, you can refer to any group of people with brains and brawns as cowards. Is your problem that of mischief or half-literacy ? What further bloodbath could have been more than occured under Ojukwu's watch ? Ifeajuna, Banjo and co. saw the handwriting early and wanted to prevent it only for the tyranical Ojukwu to execute them.
The Ibos may continue to blame the Yorubas for their woes out of ignorance but the latter owe them no apology whatsoever. Rather, its the Ibos that have proved to be ingrates. Although i was very young during the war but i had a mental awareness of some events because i always listened to the news, read the newspapers and listened to elders discourse the events. So for some reasons, the Yorubas may never forgive the Ibos for their ingratitude. 1) In my area of Fadeyi on Ikorodu Rd, Lagos, i knew many Ibo men that decided to stay put in Lagos and were shielded by our people. They were fed throughout the period the war lasted. At a time, northern soldiers were conducting house-to-house search for Ibos but our people never for once betrayed them. 2) Those that heeded the call to return home handed their property over to Yoruba friends/neighbours. They had their property, complete with arrears of rent returned to them after the war. In other words, no surviving Ibo lost his property in the entire South West. 3) Messrs Tai Solarin and Wole Soyinka risked their lives supplying food aids to Biafran civilians for a period of time. 4) Against all wise counsel and at the risk of his life, Awolowo went to the east to persuade Ojukwu to have a rethink and prevent bloodshed to no avail. 5) Some of the Ibos that were shielded by our people treacherously planted the first bomb at a cinema house at Ebutte Meta in a residential area populated by the Yoruba. 6) Victor Banjo fought on the biafra side only to be executed by Ojukwu for wanting to stop further killing of Ibos in particular. Some of your leaders who know the truth prefered to keep silent while mischief-makers were writing rubbish just to plant the seed of hatred between the two nations. But i expect discerning Ibos to understand the import of the statements made by the following leaders about the person of Awolowo. a) "Awo was the best president Nigeria never had -Ojukwu (he wasn't playing to the galley). b) Chief Michael Okpara said - that he would forever regret the fact that he was one of those who didn't allow Azikiwe to work with Awolowo. He said he realised it too late, saying that a lot of pitfalls would've been prevented and much good achieved. The Ibos may continue with their tirades against the Yoruba but we prefer that our enemies should .under-estimate us. Read our history and you will discover that we are a nation of warriors - every component part of Yoruba Land.

[quote author=zendy]You are the ignorant one. Like I said before,most of the officer corps at the time were Igbos. It would have been near on impossible to conduct a coup and Igbos would not be heavily involved. You conveniently called it an Igbo coup even though 2 of the major ring leaders were Yorubas. Why didn't you call it an Igbo/Yoruba coup? Also is the fact that unlike all other coups that followed,the coup plotters did not want power for themselves. They only wanted to remove the bad "eggs".You can go on YouTube and and search about that coup and see what the conspirators confessed to while in jail,they wanted Awolowo in charge. You asked why the coup plotters didn't kill other people from the east? Well for starters,neither Zik or Okpara were in town then,Infact,Zik was abroad at the time on official assignment. Also, the GOC of the Nigerian Army at the time,Ironsi,an Igbo man was targeted. It was Victor Banjos duty to kill Ironsi but he goofed. Victor Banjo was arrested as he made his way to Ironsi's bed chamber in dead of the night with a corked machine gun. Why would they want to kill Ironsi if this was an Igbo coup? Who even stopped this coup? Wasn't Igbo soldiers like Ironsi,Nwawo and Ojukwu?This connotation that it was an Igbo coup is baseless. Even if for the sake of aguement that this was an Igbo coup,can the Igbo nation be blamed for the actions of a few officers? I think not. You said that the declaration of republics has led nowhere,of course it had led no where because the Yorubas have always colluded with northerners to scuttle it each time. The fact that Yorubas want to be slaves to 'one Nigeria' doesn't mean that the rest of us want the same.The attempt at freedom is one of the greatest life choices a people can make and the fact that Yorubas have consistently thrown away their sovereignty (first to the British and now to the northerners) is exactly why most Igbos think that cowardice is an inherent trait amongst the Yorubas. Your so called "It takes people with brains and brawns for meticulous plans before taking the plunge into the unknown " is a speech worthy of a true coward. In almost 55 years of nationhood,we have massive corruption,incompetence in government and over 60% living below the porverty line and you Yorubas are still trying to figure out the unknown with your brains and brawns? Real swell! You also criticised people like MASSOB and BZM for their attempts at demanding freedom for Igbos. For a people like Yorubas who are yet to emancipate themselves from the mental bondage that is Nigeria,what these people are doing will look silly. Yet against the incessant crack down by Nigerian officials,these groups continue their agitation to their GOd given right to self determination. Nothing could be more noble. One last thing I want to add is this "Ojukwu ran away" statement people keep harping about all the time. When it looked like the war would be lost,many Biafran officers decided that they would continue guerrilla warfare rather than capitulate. If Ojukwu had not stepped aside,the war might have still been on now. If Ojukwu had stayed back to be slaughtered,many die hard Biafran soldiers would have fought to the death and a blood bath would have happened on an even bigger scale. Ojukwu left and Biafra surrendered the next day bringing peace. A soldier who lives,lives to fight another day. Someday,I hope the Yoruba nation will revive the spirit of an Oduduwa country because Nigeria is already a lost cause but until then,Igbos and Yorubas will always view each other with mutual suspicion and contempt

Classic lamentations of failure by a bunch of failures.

RedClay: I've got little French, but would love to learn More.
Please don't stop the good work.

Same as me, so i support.

pfijacobs: Na now day break?

Emphatic YES.

Hamas- a pack of brainless, suicidal,morons.

zendy: I want to clarify something's that certain ignorant Yorubas have used to justify the senseless assault on Igbos.

1) The January 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup. At the time,the majority of Officers were Igbos and thus why most of the officers were from that part of Nigeria. It should also be pointed out that 2 leading members of that plot were Yorubas (Ademoyega and Victor Banjo). One last thing about this coup which Yorubas might find interesting is that the plotters had no desire to take power for themselves ,they actually wanted to make Awolowo head of Government!

2) The so called invasion of Ore,which incidentally was led by a Yoruba man (Victor Banjo), was in response to the shelling of Garkem,a Biafran border town.The war had already been started by Nigerians and it was only natural for Biafra to invade Nigeria.

3)The final thing I want to say which I consider a major difference between my Igbo people and Yorubas is that Igbos have the unquechable thirst for freedom and to reach new horizons. This is a major reason why Igbos are the second largest population in every state after the indigenous population of that state. I grew up reading the rich cultural history of the Yorubas. I read that the Oyo empire once stretched from present day Benin to old Dahomey. How come that the present day Yoruba man has lost all sense of self determination in the name of 'one Nigeria'? The Niger delta militant leader,Isaac Boro declared the Republic of the Niger delta in 1966. Ojukwu declared Biafra in 1967. What have the Yorubas ever done to have their own nation?What the Yorubas are busy doing is fighting for regional autonomy,resource control and Yoruba presidency when all of these things would have been taken for granted if they ever have the backbone to fight for their own separate country. The worst thing is that whenever the people of the south east or South -South seek their independence,it is the Yorubas who will conspire with their northern allies to frustrate that venture. They will even come in Nairaland to post a litany of petty reasons why Biafra must not be. I think that says a lot that the present day Yorubas have thrown away their sovereignty for the sake of the British created 'petting zoo' called Nigeria. And they are doing this with a dangerous scorpion called Hausa/Fulanis. The relationship between Yorubas and Igbos? There isn't one,the Igbos shed slave mentality a long time ago and fought a war to prove it. We are waiting for the day the Yorubas will come to table as their own masters instead of as Nigerians(a by-word for slave of northerners) then we shall see what relationship there can be.

Your long post is an attempt to rewrite history plus mere insinuations.
No. 1) That the coup plotters wanted to install Awolowo as head of govt. is fallacy. None of those concerned who have written books on the coup ever mentioned such and you cannot claim to know more than them. Again, Awolowo was in prison for the duration before the northern reprisal coup without Ironsi and his igbo cohorts calling the shots releasing him. To prove that it was Igbo coup, why did they kill all other regional leaders leaving only Igbo leaders- Azikiwe and Okpara - by Ifeajuna ? Ibo-Ibo - we-we ? Please try and find another lie to peddle. This doesnt jell and is meant for the trash can.
3) What has the declaration of those republics fetched for their people ? Nothing. Ojukwu turned lily-livered and chicken-hearted and abandoned his people to their peril having taken them midstream like an army deserter !! A colonel my foot. It takes people with brains and brawns for meticulous plans before taking the plunge into the unknown neither of which qualities the Igbo have but which are not lacking in the,Yoruba. I've lost count of the number of times MASSOB and the Biafrian Zionists have issued toothless ultimatums with no action to back it up. Its always better to make a bluff that can be backed up if called. That is the stuff of which the Yoruba is made which many do not know. Like they say, its not by gra-gra. Let me remind you that the Igbos are spread out everywhere like bees because of two main reasons - a) their ingrained, morbid craze for expansionism and, b) they are the biblical Cain who were cursed by God to be perpetual wanderers. Cain killed sleep and rest by murdering Abel. The Igbos killed peace and unity in Nigeria through the first coup. Ifeajuna turned his back on his colleagues, warned Zik of Onitsha and Okpara, disguised himself in female clothing, and fled. Ironsi, Ojukwu and co. imposed a unitary system of govt. on the country preparatory to enslaving other regions. Zik later turned against biafra and hobnobed with the FG. It seems deserting ones own people is hereditary in Igbos.

chiedu7:
DUMBASS.
TRIBALISM ENTERED NIJA POLITICS WHEN ACTION GROUPS POLITICIANS ALL LEFT ZIK AND JOINED AWO ONE DAY!

DUMBASS YOU ARE

So even you acknowledge that Igbos are the dumb race hence the dumb-looking boy's picture you posted who is unmistakably Igbo. See how scums like you shoot themselves behind the back ?

Chanchit: Does the 2weeks ultimatum includes returning all northerners back to their square root from all other regions of the federation..? I've always thought this Arewa people have common sense, they have more to loose.

They said others should vacate to make room for their own they expect to return, cant you read well ?

aumeehn: u re soo naive bro..how can you say dat @dah bolded....dere re over 100,000 igbos in Adamawa state only not to talk of kano and other states....lemme tell you the population ov igboss in the north is allmost 1.2mil besides hausa's dat live in the south re not rich while d igbos in the north re rich u see wen u kill a poor man u wont get any benefit buh to kill a rich man and inherit his hard earn money is wah we re talking bout....mtswew infact let dem start my two igbo neigbours re d ones dat ill suffer cus i ill make life unbearable for them......!!!! Banzaye!

And thats telling him and his likes. Can you see the way igbos think ? upsidedown like TRUE dimwits. A revelation from your post is the fact that the north has the actual census of igbos in the north plus other paraphenalia. Interesting. But as usual, it, may catch them napping.

goldenboyofpsy: Hmmmm.... This is really serious!!! Everyone is clamoring for disintergration but am not sure we have counted the cost,price&the consequence of the breakaway. Until selfishness,self-centeredness,unpatrotism,tribalism,religion etc is put aside and the country first,we will only take away the leaves and branches but the root of the problem still remains!!! Blood shed,loss of properties human and material will be inevitable if we are to break up. I dont support we break but support we love our neighbours regardless of ur place as ourselves.. It is well with Nigeria. The place of the international community and the devil have failed.

Are you from Juputer ?

banega: Following# This is really good news! . They should act fast please ¤ ¤

Ah ! a virago, a macho woman

waternogetenemy: Aboki are becoming all talk and no action. We will do this? We will do that? If u don't have eyes,u will think everybody in the country where disable and helpless.

Aboki are the helpless and disables in Nigeria. Right in my village compound, one of u sleep in my gate house and i pay him monthly. Right across igboland u will find Abokis gainfully employed at the gates.

The Hausa in Igboland are far more than igbo in North. Pls, try any nonsense, let me chop that mofo at my gate head off.

Everything that has a begining has an end and Nigeria end is now. Let us get it started. If u don't carry out ur threat nobody will ever take u seriously again and i won't even comment on such thread.

GEJ or no GEJ, a Northerner as President has become unacceptable to Sotherners.

WORD . A northern president is a taboo to us in the south henceforth.

ImperialYoruba: we sure dont relocate to pygymyland!

Onyiocha!

Yes o o o o o o, Omo Oko (son of his father).

IGBOSON1: ^^^I suppose Yorubas reside only in Yorubaland abi?

Retar/ded evil creep!

IGBOSON1, you found the truth painful ? Because its a dart. Igbos are being rejected left, right and centre because they have ingrained unberable attitides.

Promhize: Lol at thrown out

Even their lawyers are muslims

Can a leopard ever change its skin ?

chiedu7:
DUMBASS.
TRIBALISM ENTERED NIJA POLITICS WHEN ACTION GROUPS POLITICIANS ALL LEFT ZIK AND JOINED AWO ONE DAY!

DUMBASS YOU ARE

What you dumb ass refered to is called politicking and horse-trading and is no different from cross-carpetting taking place nowadays. The first coupists in Nigeria started tribalism by killing leaders of other tribes except their own. Stupid apes who cannot think rationally as humans.

backtosender: oga is better you allow igbos to be mind your tribes they have history of their own,you sound like a frustrated person ..

How can you be this dumb? Who else is frustrated but Igbos who cannot collectively agree on their anscestry but try to link themselves with the Jews who rightly rejected their claim. Keep deceiving yourself.

anonimi: Wishing is GOOD and very easy - maybe too easy even!
Simply having your voters card and showing/queueing up and actually voting is BETTER!!

Joining either of the two MAIN parties or working towards making another(new) party strong enough to displace these two (APC & PDP), which as you rightly said CURRENTLY "represent everything bad in the books", IMHO is the BEST option!!!

What do you think

Yes, i agree with you. We need parties that are based purely on ideology then politicking can be based on issues.

thunderrider: Is ds JONA really daft? ??
This is definitely not Jonathan
But JONA.....

JonaDEFT

Aregbesola is rather desperate. He realises the game is up for him but only catching at any straw.

Attempt to link Igbos with Jewish ancestry is nothing but a product of inferiority cimplex. What a pathetic race !!! Even after the Jews have investigated and denied the link some still shamelessly tag on to it. Whatever is their motive ?

Tambuwal- a leader by fatal error, a traitor, a black leg, a scum, a dimwit, a failure, a product of Tinubu's perfidy,a COWARD - APC in PDP's babariga. Every sane person should ignore him.

anonimi: There is NO such thing/person as a "GENUINE progressive and democrat" anymore in the lould of Awo and his UPN governors plus other followers of their four cardinal programmes focused on uplifting the masses in a SUSTAINABLE manner rather than steal our money as is the current practice.

Gbenga Daniel had similar credentials in 2003 but AD would not give him a ticket in favour of Osoba whom Ogun state people wanted out for his crass corruption and clueless administration. Quite a few Ogun elites/intellectuals actually raised funds for Daniel to add to his war chest in winning Osoba. Let us not forget that AD was not under Thief'nubu's one man show control then.
While Daniel did well in his first term like Fashola his second term was a disaster just like Fashola's.

This is largely due to the absence of OUR constant & continuous VIGILANCE through well established and strong INSTITUTIONS such as the legislature & LGAs having significant number of opposition parties at the STATE level who can keep the party/person in power on his/her toes for the people's ultimate benefit.

Over to US!

"US'' are now between the devil ( Jimi Agbaje (so to say) and the deep blue sea (APC). I, as a component of the "US", am not a politician nor a card-carrying member of any party but vote based on the prevailing circumstances. I wish that all the vestiges of ACN/APC be completely removed from the entire South West. They represent everything bad in the books.

This is trash for the dustbin. INEC should take this Op to court.
1) How many people claimed inability to vote in the election due to absence of names from the register? None. Even APC never raised such alarm on behalf of their supporters.
2) Did the agents of opposition parties including APC not sign the result sheets,?
3) Where were PDP strongholds when Fayose's victory was almost evenly spread across the state ?
There is a limit to the use of freedom of speech, so be warned.

Mallam Atiku, is Nyako guilty or not ? So it means if you ever become the president, you will sweep corrupt cases under the carpet so as not to be seen 'using excessive power' ? That says a volume about you. Again where were you when Nyako's mouth was running foul against his president ? In a trance ? Or in Dubai ? Between this genuine impeachment and Nyako's spurious letter to northern governors, which of them has the potentials to raise tension ? Please stop double speak.

koboko69: Even as hard as OBJ is, he knew where to draw the line. This will turn around and bring Jonathan down. From the misuse of military, money politricks and impeachment stick...it willl be used against him soonest.

illusory fantasy.

abacus: Nothing good can from PDP..

The day Jimi declare for PDP, no more respect for that fake man..

If Jimi believes he's really popular and man of the people, let him vie under Labour party or Accord..

Until then sha!!

My bro, i've never been a fan of PDP but to me, anything is better than APC. Besides, with due respect to your religious sensibilities, the general notion then was that nothing good could ever come out of Nazarete, but behold, it produced the Redeemer. Again, dont you think that using Labour or Accord will be playing into the hands of APC by stretching the votes against them instead of channeling it in one direction ? Jimi Agbaje is a genuine progressive and democrat. Sometimes you have to stoop to conquer.

abacus: It's not about Jimi Agbaje.. It's about PDP..

DEAD ON ARRIVAL Agbaje..

Its not about PDP, its about Jimi Agbaje.
Finally, The EAGLE has landed to take Lagos State from 1-man show to the highest peak of progress.

Obiagelli: lovr jimi AGBAJE but i will never vote the pdp.

I voted gej not pdp comes to mind.

meaning you will vote Jimi Agbaje but not PDP. The Yoruba say - Ti a ko ba,tori epo je isu, a a tori isu je epo - meaning - we may not eat yam because of palmoil, but because of yam, we shall eat palmoil. QED.