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idemudian1:
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Hello,which documents did u summit for ur visa application?did u summit accommodation documents?i willl also loke to say here how did u answer ur visa interview questions?have you funded ur blocked acct?

I did summit any accomodation documnts.yes sure i funded my blocked account

sparkle01:
congratulation bro, how much did you deposit into ur DB account?

8040 euros

idemudian1:
hello,congrat.which state are u heading to in deutschland?

Hessen

biglord:
congrats man Go to Deutschland and prosper

@biglord thanks for your support...it really helped

biglord:
Nitori Olorun, what else do you need? an angel from heaven wearing a red chief cap to tell you u will get your visa. Three consular officers say to you congratulations on your studies and that they say yes to your application. bros na wa for you o, what else do u want ni? U are saying they didnt tell u reason for your earlier rejection but they did ni, and even if they didnt. whats the point bro, wrong or right, good or bad. What matters is that you are getting your visa. So cheer up and dont be so twisted and negative as if there is no God in heaven. Relax bro, I am confident you will get your visa. You already took the bold step of writing the remonstration letter. Now u are in the clear. Just relax

One to inform the house about the outcome of my situation.That long awaited mail which any student would like to see in his /her mailed box just arrived in my mail box.I thank everbody for the support i received.It really worth for me to write this remonstration letter, exactly 29 days after the interview i received my visa.people try to discourage me not to write a remonstration letter because according to them my application cannot be reviewed.Thanks God i didnt listen to such advice.Please if there is way to appeal on your visa decision just go for it!!!!! Im very happy now thanks to this thread.Germany here i come......

Eke40seven:
You were probably not coherent enough in your first interview to convince them, that's why the decision to reject you was made at the embassy. They pick out words and all must follow. Also, you must have a full knowledge of what your Courses are about at the back of your hands.
Now that you have gone past them, as they have assured you, just relax and wait for the foreigners' office decision.

@Eke40seven thanks for the advice.!!! I had full knowledge of my courses. high presure, intimidation (3 consular officers interviewing me),the fear not to express myself well made ideas started mixing up in my head ,confusion started I couldn't believe I was the one speaking as such!!!!, it can happen to everybody ; ;

biglord:
lol, atleast I got u laughing. Just relax. I believe God has done it. So focus on other things. All the best

@biglord thanks very much for the advices and moral support

weirdarkhitekt:
I think you will get your visa. Which university are you headed? Find out the contact details (phone number preferably) of the Ausländerbehörde in the city your uni is located. Give them one more week from today and call them about your application. Best of luck

But your US embassy drama makes you look suspect o

Thanks but I think calling the Ausländerbehörde won't change anything to my application ,am I right? Is better for me to just wait

biglord:
Nitori Olorun, what else do you need? an angel from heaven wearing a red chief cap to tell you u will get your visa. Three consular officers say to you congratulations on your studies and that they say yes to your application. bros na wa for you o, what else do u want ni? U are saying they didnt tell u reason for your earlier rejection but they did ni, and even if they didnt. whats the point bro, wrong or right, good or bad. What matters is that you are getting your visa. So cheer up and dont be so twisted and negative as if there is no God in heaven. Relax bro, I am confident you will get your visa. You already took the bold step of writing the remonstration letter. Now u are in the clear. Just relax

@Biglord Hahahahahahaha you didn't understand me well, I said they didn’t discuss with me the reasons for my earlier rejection. I knew the reasons for my earlier rejection since it was written on the letter they sent to me.on my remonstration letter I discussed the reasons.so when I received a call from them I thought my interview will be based on the reasons of my earlier rejection .to my surprise during the interview they didn't mention anything regarding my earlier rejection. It is true she said yes to my application she went further saying that the final decision is from the competent authority in germany ,she added by saying compare to other master student I was very weak in explaining my course content and that if I'm refused a visa and I decide to reapply I should master my course content before reapplying..only this her statements put me down!!!! I starting thinking that maybe there are just playing games with me, how can you tell someone that for us at the embassy is a yes to your application and u go further by saying compare to other master student u were weak in explaining your course ......bla bla bla!!!!,its only this statement she made at the end that's disturbing me......at the end of the interview the ladies kept on smile at me but me!!!! I was smiling with them at all,if someone was present to just look at my face . You are absolutely right!!!! If it was a rejection they would have rejected again my application on the spot,is only those last statements she made at the end that's disturbing me

Let me share my personal experience I got with regard to my student visa at the German Embassy.I got my bachelor in 2013, during my interview that took place on the 9 may 2016 ,I told the visa officer that sometimes after my bachelor I got involve into business, why I mentioned that was because I wanted to make him understand that I wasn’t just staying inthe house doing notting at least I kept myself busy.I didn’t give detailed explanation to the consular officer as to why I got involve into business.I did that for 6 months in 2015.....I didn't know that this information I'm giving could make the visa officer think otherwise!!!.After answering series of question from the visa officer I left the embassy confident that I would be given a student visa.
After 3 weeks I received an email from the embassy ,it was a refusal letter.The refusal was on the ground that the German Embassy doubts my intention of studying and my language certificate isn’t reliable (this is the attestation I obtained from the language centre I was enrolled ).I was very shock...I calmed down for 3 days. After which I start preparing to write a remonstration letter (even though people were discouraging me not to write because according to them the embassy will not reply to it ,instead they were advising me to go for german classes and take the ZIDAF exam befor reapplying,for me it didn't make any sense as the master course I'm admitted is taught entirely in English and german proficiency isn't a requirement for enrolment. In 2014 I did English classes to under take the international English language testing system (IELTS) in view to apply for my master course. I wanted to acquaint myself with german language before travelling to Germany, so I went for german classes as well and completed level one.I attached supporting documents to my remonstration letter and went to deposit it at the German embass.6 days later I received a call from the german embassy requesting me to come the following day .After,the call I started thinking on what to say why I got involve into buiness since the embassy thinks I want to use my student visa otherwise. The following day at 7 am I was already at the embassy, I got in and sat in the waiting room.my name was called and I got up and move to the box where heard my name.To my great surprise 3 visa officers where already waiting for me,all were female.let me call them lady1, lady2, lady3.I sat down my blood pressure started to increase.lady2 was beside lady1 with an A4 paper on it were series of questions and photocopies of my course content my heart rate started increasing because i wasnt prepared for an interview,I thought that they will instead discuss with me the reasons for my rejection and what i wrote on my letter of remonstration,lady3 had the remonstration letter and the supporting documents I summitted to the embassy earlier.lady1 asked the first question I answered then lady2 asked I answered then lady1 switch off the microphone and was conversing with her colleagues, after conversation she switched on her microphone and lady3 tick first question on her A4 paper. Same thing happened through out the interview.After bombarding me with series of question they went into my course content,the fact that I was afraid , my heart beating rate increasing and being interviewed by 3 consular officer intimidated me ,confusion started I wasn't coherent when explaining my course content because I wasn't at all prepare for that.Finally last question lady1 asked.....u had your bachelor in 2013 what where you doing that you decided to apply for master studies in 2016.I explained she then asked for evidence and I summitted. I was then ask to go into the waiting room and that they will call me back in 5 minutes,I went as requested and after 10 minutes I was called.I set to myself that these ladies won't change their decision there r still going to refuse me the visa and maintain my rejection.I sat lady1 started saying........ I would be very open to you (just that statement made my heart rate to increase) compared to other master student you were very weak in explaining your course content (I new it was finished with me), she then said however (Just this word "however" made my heart rate to drop) to us at the embassy we say yes to your application (all 3 ladies smile but I wasn't smiling with them at all) but the final say is from the competent authority in Germany and the procedure will take upto 2 months. If you are refused a visa(she spoiled everything again and you decide to reapply master your course content and certain technical aspect before applying....she continues to smile while saying good luck and I wish you the best,lady2 and lady3 were smiling also then lady2 told me....I wish you the best in your master thesis.I responded by saying thank you.while leaving the embassy I was kind of surprised that they didn't discus with me the reasons for my rejection and I too didn't mention that because they didn't ask,I was waiting for them to talk about it before I could say something .since this interview my days and nights have not been the same,I'm always refreshing about this interview and wondering if I will be granted this visa.

Please anybody that has come across such situation or anybody reading should please give me his or her opinion on this matter and if I stand a chance for my visa to be granted. Thank you

pepson:
HELLO!!! VO,JUST TO GREET!!!!

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hello!! VO, well... i have been quite a longtime out of nairaland but i am back now to express my worries.My brother back in the United state wants me to come and do post graduate studies in the US.MY worry is the permanent back on my status i narrated to you,i am still wondering though i was a minor i was still ban to enter the US.I acknowledge that it is true i submitted fraudulent documents but i didn't make them.Those responsible to take care of my file fabricated them and gave them to me to summit at the time of my interview and they even trained me on how to answer question at the time of my interview. my brother back in the US wants me to apply for a student visa but i keep telling him about my permanent ban but he says i cannot be ban to enter the US because the incident happened when i was a minor,so im just confused on what to do now,i don't want my brother to lose his money in the process to obtain a student visa,so VO i wish to know if really i still have a chance to obtain a visa? my permanent ban as a minor is it an error or what? please i need clarification on this point because i still wonder on this point.thanks for reading looking forward for your response,stay blessed

VisaOfficer:
Hi Pepson,

My personal opinion: I wouldn't worry about getting an attorney at this stage. Filing a waiver application (the I-601) is pretty straightforward. Of course, it's a personal choice, and getting an attorney isn't going to hurt; it's just not really necessary.

HELLO!!! VO,JUST TO GREET!!!!

VisaOfficer: Don't give up! You can always apply for the waiver!

hello VO,i wish to know if it is a good idear to get an immigration lawyer to follow up my case? i plan to get one in the US to follow up my case

VisaOfficer: Don't give up! You can always apply for the waiver!

OK VO,i would think of doing that

VisaOfficer: Well, having read your case notes and seen how many fraudulent documents you submitted, my guess is that you came across in the interview as mature and intelligent enough to share responsibility for the fraud. (Sorry to sound so stern but, well...)

ok VO, ouff!!!im so much despair about this whole thing, i think i should remove U.S.A from my mind!!!, i thank you very much for your readiness to always answer my questions,thanks and stay blessed!!!

abujaniv: 212(a)(6)(C)(1) findings are for material misrepresentation, and carry a lifetime barr on travelling to the US. If someone has a 6(C)(1) finding, while they are welcome to apply for a non-immigrant visa, there is a multi-step process:

First, one has to convince the officer they qualify for the visa they have applied for, and overcome the legal presumption of being an intending immigrant. (This is often difficult, as they, by virtue of having a 6(C)(1), are known to have misrepresented themselves in the past.) If the officer doesn't believe the applicant qualifies for a visa, the interview ends there.

However, if the officer does find the applicant to qualify for the visa, the applicant can ask the officer to file a waiver request for them, which can come either with or without the officer's recommendation for a waiver. (We don't decide on the granting of waivers - the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) back in the U.S. does.) Then, the ultimate decision on whether or not to temporarily waive the lifetime travel barr is made by DHS.

thanks for the responses,, i have another question;

applying for a waiver can only be done at the time of interview?

hello,V.O. i have an ineligibility under 212(a)(6)(C)(1) for presenting false documents, i dont understant how an ineligibility was entered into my records at the time of interview knowing well that i was a minor by then (14years) .i wish to know how to go about applying for a waiver for non-immigrant visa?

VisaOfficer: There are also waivers available if you apply for a non-immigrant visa, but that's a question to ask my friends on the non-immigrant thread.

When your brother becomes a citizen, he can file an I-130 petition on your behalf. But to file for a waiver with a sibling petition, you still need a spouse, parent, or child in the U.S., not a sibling.

ok V.O i think i am clear on that point,but there is one aspect which i dont still understand,atsome point in our previous discussions you said that you people were kind on those who committed fraud when there were minor at time of interview.so my question is how come an ineligibility was entered into my records by then knowing well that i was a minor(14years)?

VisaOfficer: Okay, I was going to send you an e-mail through LagosIV, but I think the answer will be useful generally, so:

You do have an ineligibility under 212(a)(6)(C)(1) for presenting false documents, and you'll need to apply for a waiver. In order to apply for a waiver, you would need to have been interviewed for an immigrant visa (in this case, a DV). You can't just apply for a waiver with the idea that some day in the future you might be applying for a visa.

To be eligible for a waiver for a 212(a)(6)(C)(1) ineligibility, you must be the spouse, parent, or child of a U.S. citizen, a Legal Permanent Resident, or someone who has been issued an immigrant visa (in this case, a DV). So if your parents aren't in the U.S. as citizens or LPRs, you'll have to take care of all this after you marry your girlfriend.

It's up to you whether you'll marry her first and try to get a waiver in your Diversity Visa case, or whether you get married later and wait until she files an I-130 petition for you as her spouse.

In any case, the best thing to do is to be very upfront and candid with the interviewing officer. We get worried when we find this stuff out from our computers instead of directly from our applicants.

Good luck! Let us know what happens.

so it means you can only be eligible for a waiver if you are applying for an immigrant visa and not a non-immigrant visa and that can only be possible at the time of interview?hope i got it all right? thanks!!!! very much V.O,all my doubts are cleared
my brother is a green card holder and plans to get a US citizenship so he can file for me,so i want to know if under this condition i can still enter the U.S? what are the steps to follow?

VisaOfficer: Please provide a little context so the people who answer the e-mail know what to do with it.

i sent the e-mail as you requested me to do, this is the respond they wrote back to me :'''At the time of your diversity visa interview, you will be advised accordingly'''. i really want to know my status V.O, if i wait to be interviewed and it is found that there is an eligibility in the system that would be late for me to apply for a waiver,VO what can i really do to know my status?

VisaOfficer: Your ineligibility, if there is one, is something that pops up for the officer to see when you have an active case in our system. I suppose you could e-mail us at LagosIV@state.gov with your name and date of birth, and we could take a look at your previous case to see what the refusal code was. Instructions for filing a waiver application are at www.uscis.gov/I-601

I really, really can't give you advice as to whether you should get married or not and how that will affect your visa chances. I don't want you to follow my advice, get refused for some other reason that we haven't even thought of at this point, and hate me forever. It's completely your decision (and your girlfriend's). I do have faith that if you have a bona fide relationship it doesn't really matter when you get married -- we'll know if it's a real relationship.

ok thanks i think i will just e-mail my name and date of birth as required

VisaOfficer: Well, visas cannot be granted after the Sept. 30 deadline. Your case sounds fairly complicated and I don't want to give you incorrect information; you should wait until your interview and talk to us in person.

The bottom line is that if you have an ineligibility, even if a waiver is available, it's probably too late to get a 2014 Diversity Visa this year. But without seeing your case I don't know if you're ineligible or not.

thanks for the above responds. the DV for which i will be interviewed is in 2015 and not 2014, but for the moment i am tryin to convince my girl friend not to get married to me because we are likely not to be given a visa since she is older than me and the fact that we are young.so it is better for her to send her documents to KCC and be interview alone so that she can have more chances of getting a visa,this is the advice i always tell her,and she keeps up insisting for us to get married,so i have taken my decision not to get married to her because i dont want her to lose this lifetime opportunity.as for me i want to know if my status of inelligibilty can only be known during an interview? can i call the embasssy to find out about my status of ineligibility? and how do we go about to apply for a waiver?

VisaOfficer: If there's an ineligibility in the system, the Consular officer will explain how to apply for a waiver when you come for your interview.

I think waiver takes saveral months before it can be granted and that can exceed the dateline for DV (SEPTEMBER 30) so if i need to apply for a waiver,would my interview be kept pending(or what) till i am granted the waiver knowing well that the dateline for DV has passed? and also, what would be the next steps to follow if the waiver is granted?

VisaOfficer: It can be fixed by applying for a waiver, yes. The officer will see the ineligibility if it was entered, and will ask you about it at the time of the interview.

ok,thanks, it is cleared now

VisaOfficer: If there's an ineligibility in the system, the Consular officer will explain how to apply for a waiver when you come for your interview.

if there exist an ineligiblity in the system,would the visaofficer refuse me the visa before asking me to apply for a waiver or my interview will be kept pending until i am granted the waiver?

on our previous disscusion you said that if the visaofficer who interviewed me entered an ineligibility into my record then probably that should be an error since i was a minor by then and you went further saying that this situation can be fixed.my worry is that,this situation can it only be fixed if i apply for a waiver? because i thought that if the visaofficer made an error then that can be fixed at the embassy without me applying for a waiver. i also want to know how would the visaofficer identify the error should in case there exist an ineligibility? or i am there one who is supposed to explain the situation?

VisaOfficer: The person can travel outside his country, but he won't be interviewed for the sibling visa until his case is current.

Hello VO, another question popped into my mind,should in case the consular officer entered an ineligibility into my record, what are the steps to be followed or what can be done by me for this situation to be fixed?

VisaOfficer: The person can travel outside his country, but he won't be interviewed for the sibling visa until his case is current.

thanks very much for these reponses,that has helped me clear my doubts and worries, thanks once more!!!!!!

VisaOfficer: We're nice about fraud committed by people who weren't adults at the time. I doubt the officer entered an ineligibility into your record, and if he or she did, we can help fix the problem.

If you have a bona fide relationship with the Diversity Visa winner, and you can talk about the relationship credibly, I wouldn't worry about the age difference. Your brother can also file for you once he is a U.S. citizen, no matter how old you are; sibling petitions currently take around 12 years before they can be interviewed, though. Again, I wouldn't worry about something that happened when you were 14. Going by what you've written here, it doesn't sound like it will be an issue.

when you say siblings petitions currently take around 12 years before the person concerned can be interviewed,does it mean that the person has to wait for 12 years in his country of origin before he can be interviewed?

VisaOfficer: You can still be granted an immigrant visa, although if you were found ineligible for material misrepresentation you will need a waiver.

It depends what the person tested positive for. Being HIV+ is not an ineligibility for entering the United States, but if the person is positive for TB, syphilis, or some other highly contagious infection, he or she will need to complete treatment before traveling.

why i am asking this is because the incident happened when i was a minor(14 yrs), i went for an interview for a student visa in 2007,the consular officer told me to come the following week for my student visa,when i came the following week as required ,i was told to come again in one week time,this situation happened for 1 month until i was called and told that some fraudulent documents was discovered into my file and that i am permanently banned to enter the US,later on the school for which i was enrolled send another I-20 for me to go for another interview which i did,the consular officer told me that i am still applying at the same school she went further saying if i continue to be apply for interview i will keep on losing my money,she refused me the visa.i am dating a girl,and she was chosen for 2015 DV lottery,we plan to get married for further processing,so my concerns are as follow: the fact that i am getting married to her is that consider as fraud since i have 22 years and she has 29 yrs?because i am really worried and confused.my second concern is if i can still be eligible for the immigrant visa under this condition since i was permanently ban to enter the US during my student visa interview?
another concern not related to those mention above is:my brother is a green card holder and he plans to get a US citizenship,an he wants me to benefit from it,so i dont know if my age (22yrs) still permit me to be eligible? and if the fact that i was permanently banned befor can affect this process?

hello VO ,i was banned to enter the US some 8 years back due to presentation of fraudulent document during my interview for a non-immigrant visa.my wife was selected for the DV 2015,so i wish to know if i can still be granted an immigrant visa under my wife.i also want to know if someone tested positive for a medical examination affect visa decision, thanks for ur reply