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BluntBoy:That’s only an incident. If a man could give tithe on even booty of war how much more from his belonging. Tithe is given of possession Did Jacob have to fight robbers to pay tithe ? He gave tithes of all. The issue is not about the “how but about the ”what” |
MuttleyLaff:Neither is the thread about Jesus paying tithes |
BluntBoy:[]God brought about or introduced revelation of tithing through Abraham . And God trusted him to pass his knowledge of God to his generation. It was from Isaac learned about tithing and passed it to Jacob Are the priesthood of your pastors the equal of that of Melchizedek?Jesus is our priest in the order of Melchizedek |
betterABIAstate:I will show you if you can show me where jesus brushed his mouth |
TheHotspur:Matthew 5:22 but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. |
betterABIAstate:He spoke against many things under the law but he didn't speak against tithe rather Jesus endorsed tithing . Matthew 23:23 . . . .! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. |
BluntBoy:Open your bible and Teach us . I will respond |
TheHotspur:I welcome you to bring out your bible and challenge my post. If there is a contrary truth , if not kindly fall behind me |
plainbibletruth:Tithing is and will always be applicable. Why single out tithing .If tithing is wrong, offering will be wrong,prayer will be wrong ,alms for the poor will be wrong . Diverting attention away from the CORE issue and now focusing on number of tithes or how they were done smacks of DECEIT.No rather , your daddy freeze dwelling on the minor to destroy the main is deceptive . There is NO priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testament. What we have in the New Testament is THE PRIESTHOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. Jesus's priesthood SUPERSEDES any and ALL the other Priesthoods prior to it including that of MelchizedekThere is no Oder of jesus priesthood . Jesus is our high priest in the order of Melchizedek. It's a tithing receiving order ! The New Testament has prescribed how to further the Gospel; and it NOT through tithes.It was God principle revealed to Abraham .From the days of Abraham tithing has been part of worship . We are seed of Abraham . Galatians 3:7-9 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. |
Gombs:TRUTH PAINETH!!! |
IamtherealRita:you must be daddy freeze ... |
Joyphoenix:God bless you sister pastors need to share all these truths to avoid wolves like daddy freeze capitalizing on dark areas .Well not a bad idea but it's rather the believer that need to study to know the word for hi self . |
IamtherealRita:What's the question |
Bukolar1:Read my post . I explained . Tithe is a principle that's what counts . Our tithes are Abrahamic not mosaic |
OtemSapien:Psycho you're here? ![]() |
It's laughable when some who don't study their bibles feel there is a hidden conspiracy about tithing in the church which pastors have been covering up. Daddy freeze claims that the Bible. Command tithes to be uses to drink beer. Firstly that's is insult to God and stupid . Let me explain the manipulation and error of Daddy freeze here . He told a lie that tithe is to be given to the poor and to eat and drink that is error . Tithe belong to God right right from the days of father Abraham who’s principle of faith we follow . Under the law God still commanded isreal to give tithes and offerings. Which is used for the service of the house of God and welfare and support of workers and ministers there . Leviticus 27:30. And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord. Numbers 18:21-25 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. After God Instructed them on the tithe to him through the levites , he asked the people to give another 10% to the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a love feast to eat and drink . That doesn’t replace the tithe to God. And that is the error and deception of daddy freeze . He didn’t mentioned the title to God and gave the impression that the other 10% for feast and for the poor were the same. . As much as we are not tithing based on the law. We tithe based on Abrahamic revelation . However the explanation here is to throw light on the misrepresentation by daddy freeze . THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible . Daddy freeze dwell on a minor one to rubbish the major one . The three different types are as follows: 1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God). Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there. Numbers 18:21-25 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. 2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe ) Deuteronomy 14:22-23 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. 3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years) This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs . Deuteronomy 14:28-29 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abraham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testament. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testament. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ. Paul was clear enough . 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian ) |
If it's wrong to tithe , it will be wrong to give offerings , it will be wrong to give alms to the poor it will be wrong to praye etc . There were three kinds of tithes under the law .theres a tithe to God and there's tithe to share and eat from . Anti tithers only dwell on one and use as a whole . The tithe to share is different from the one to God . Is done every 3 years . Deuteronomy 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled; But the tithe unto God is annual used for the work God Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.service and welfare for workers in the vineyard of God. Numbers 18:21-25 21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting. |
Goshen360:Whatever you give in the church of God is an offering as long as there’s a God in heaven the principle remain . Even in the world to come . Luke 21:4 4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had. Acts 24:17 17 Now after many years I came to bring alms to my nation, and offerings. |
betterABIAstate:It's clear enough even for a child Lemme get anoynrt version for uKnow what you probably need is an English teacher for yourself |
betterABIAstate:Luke 11:42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. |
ajog1:What does it say . Post it Let us view it . |
iboboyswag:It's the institution we should look at . If taxation cannot be condemn because a government misuse money , tithing should not be condemn just because a pastor live big. Secondarily. Pastors don't live by tithe . Pastors have their jobs they only do volunteer service . The church money does not belong to pastors. A pastor may receive a car as gift that doesn't mean its church tithe . |
FreshGreen:Tithe ought to be paid where you worship. How can you be receiving the word of God in one place and sending your money to another place |
betterABIAstate:That's a lie . Kindly Quote it |
ajog1:Same way Christ didn't discourage tithimg. But rather endorsed |
OtemSapien:Why must you tell a lie. He said he's a tither . Swallow the truth . |
ajog1:Since the law is done away we should also start killing ,stealing and worship idols . What do you think? |
OtemSapien:If your attack in on General overseers (G.O) you should be specific . Even general overseers may not have absolute control. It's all assumption . Before you register a church you must have board of trustees . As long as there's no evidence of misuse of funds . Assumptions should not be entertained . Their should be verification of facts |
plainbibletruth:Under the law money was used for tithes and offerings Leviticus 27:27 And if it be of an unclean beast, then he shall redeem it according to thine estimation, and shall add a fifth part of it thereto: or if it be not redeemed, then it shall be sold according to thy estimation Leviticus 27:31 31 And if a man wants to redeem any of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it. |
plainbibletruth:No one says tithes is mandatory . Everything is by your will . What matters is that Tithing is a principle in the kingdom of God just as offering ,prayer ,almsgiving ,fasting are spiritutual principles . You choose to do or not to do . Tithing is not done away with as well as , offering ,prayers ,almsgiving etc If Abraham could be diligent enough to give tithe even from war how much more from his wealth and earning !!! |
Tithes and offerings are given to God . Not to pastors . Pastors are givers and tithers just like everyone else . |
OtemSapien: OtemSapien:You are not a christian and you don't know how the church runs. A bank manager is not the owner of the bank money. A pastor is a volunteer , he's not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure . Pastors are not paid for thier work. Most ministry will not even send someone to pastor a church unless he has a lucrative job. He preaches ,counsel and goes home . The officials takes offerings to bank . Most the pastor may only look at the record to pray over it . The pastor is accountable to the church headquarters . He cannot make expenditure without approval from there . There are checks and balances . You guys just post your own mind online without getting facts |
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