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asuustrike2009:
The levites are priest,pastors of our time. They're the custodian of God's money and they render stewardship to him

simplex2:
This is wrong, with no proof whatsoever. Jews were not predominantly farmers; there were tenth-makers, carpenters, soldiers, blacksmiths, fishermen and a lot of other occupation. The reason for the specific instruction to tithe with foodstuffs only is emphasized in the bible; so that there will be food in the storehouse!

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 King James Version (KJV)

22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God,

24 And if the way be too long for thee,

25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose:

Verse 22 and 23 showed clearly what is tithe-able; Verse 24 and 25 shows the only time you are allowed to convert you tithe to money and what to do with it.

Paul commended the church of Philippians for giving unto him, seeds and offering

(check chapter 4), none of the apostles collected tithe

Peter collected voluntary donations and gift offerings from the church and some sold their lands and properties to fund church ministry (remember ananiahs and his wife in Acts 5?)

If tithing was scriptural, there are a lot of evidence in your bible where the early apostles needed money but never asked for tithe to build the church.

I am officially done with you. You are sapping my energy.

flexshop:
Firstly, you agree that it is scriptural to drink alcohol in church... If otherwise state a bible verse against same and not just teachings of men.

Secondly, tithing is under the law. So are a dozen other Jewish practices....

why is tithing the only Jewish practice being emphasized on by preachers today?

Where is Passover,where is sin offering, where is burnt offering? You don't celebrate yom kippur? You don't do bar/bat mitzvah for your children?

Why is it only the financial laws that survived from the Old Testament?

I didn't see Jesus nor his apostles or even the later disciples collect tithe. If it was a heavenly principle, Jesus would have collected tithe.

Paul even had an employment so as not to depend on church offerings.

Using the New Testament standard of Christ,
The only collection given was the general contribution the faithful gave by selling there belongings and sharing among those in need in their fold.

Why the Levites collected tithe was because by law the didn't own land or properties. Why are pastors who own acres of landed properties collect tithe?

Ranchhoddas:
Me self no dey talk to you.

Ranchhoddas:
You've been firing blanks for years.

When will you make your first kill?

charlsecy:
What goods did he tithe?

flexshop:
Please study the bible before saying hogwash

It is biblical to drink beer in church.

The word of a General Overseer cannot override the scriptures. Moses says take your tithe: “to the place the Lord your God has chosen. When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household.” (Deuteronomy 14:25-26). Beer is an alcoholic drink; that means you could drink it in the “house of God.”

simplex2:
According to your bible, it is prohibited to give money as tithe;

there were specified conditions in which you are allowed to exchange your tithe for money (if you study your bible with open mind). Only farmers were asked to tithe, farmers only! The reason being that the purpose of tithe was so there will be food. In the jewish law, those that are not farmers don't pay tithe. There were tenth makers, fishermen, carpenters, tax collectors and so on, but those ones were not asked to tithe; it was only farmers, so there will be food.

Again, fruits, plants and food! Not money and of course you know there was money is existence then (Deutronomy 22)

Money has always been in existence

[quote]There are many ways in which those that minister of the gospel can partake according to the verse you quoted. There is the offerings and seeds which nobody is against. If your pastors want to partake; let them preach more on offerings and seeds (this is what Paul preached, not tithing but offerings and seeds).

Unless your god is the aurthur of confusion.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Which one do they give to God?
how is it given to God?
And how do God collect these "sacred" tithes?

Peacefullove:
Your Bible said do not go beyond what is written , Is there any record of Apostles collecting tithes ?

savagefinder:
wait ooh.. Lol.. The three types of tithe you mentioned none of them talked about giving money to pastor abi church every month..

If we are doing abrahamic tithing then we should tithe just once in our lives since abraham tithed just once

The children of Israel are direct descendants of Abraham, all of us na gentiles saved by grace and they did practice the mosaic tithes because that was what God gave them to do and if we want to follow our Bible

do we disregard the 10 commandments? Should we then disregard the law of tithing just to favor our Pastors?

Your long epistle didn't answer the question

"where did our Pastors dig up their type of tithe from?"

charlsecy:
Under what conditions did Abraham tithe?

saturnjay:
When Daddy Freeze identified tithing as a modern-day scam in a fascinating interview,

They have tried to muddy the waters by deriding Daddy Freeze’s assertion that in biblical times, it was scriptural to eat your tithe in the house of God and wash it down with a glass of beer. They also hastened to intimidate Christians by insisting if they don’t tithe, they would be cursed.

ScepticalPyrrho:
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Going by the above quote, tithes isn't money or cash.

The Bible-era used silver and gold as money. The above quoted verse instructed the jews to exchange tithes for silver(money). This means tithes isn't money!

Tithes was food!!

Peacefullove:
Mr , why didn't Jesus apostles collect tithes ?

paxonel:
That's correct!
Is that why you people are paying tithe in the order of Abraham and not the order of Malachi?
Because prophet Malachi was a Jew

1stflight:
I like your post.

Let me tell you this is what happens when all Dick, Tom And Harry claim to be man of God and what to open a church at the slightest opportunity, collect tithe and offering.

ludot:
The same way Abraham's tithe was an exceptional incident, wasn't it?

Following your logic of tithe was after wine - that means pastors that don't bring wine first deserve no tithe.

Lol...

The list is getting long

1. Symbolic
2. Exceptional

Pro-tithe people make me laugh

ludot:
Lol ... the tithe Christians pay dates back to Abraham.

Genesis 14:

18. Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. (Now he was the priest of the Most High God.) 19 He blessed Abram, saying, “Blessed be Abram by the Most High God, Creator of heaven and earth. 20 Worthy of praise is the Most High God, who delivered your enemies into your hand.” Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of everything.

How come pastors don't bring wine and bread to church and give to those that tithe?

paxonel:
The Jews were his decendants atleast you can't deny that one

mank1234:
Which of the three types do we do in church? Why don't we do the others?

My understanding of the new testament is to give willingly as the heart leads not by percentage and not necessarily to your place of worship.

BluntBoy:
The New Covenant emphasizes an unfixed amount of donations.

BluntBoy:
Show me the verse where Jacob tithed?

BluntBoy:
You ignorantly took that verse out of context.


SMH.

BluntBoy:
This is hilarious.

OK, I suspected you would deny tithing under compulsion just to justify tithing.

If you tithe the Abraham way, you must tithe properly. There was nowhere in the Bible where Abraham told his descendents to tithe as he did. His tithing was voluntary and as rich he was, there was never any evidence that he ever tithed out of his possessions before and after the Melchizedek episode.

If the Levitical priesthood (which needed tithe) has been replaced by the Melchizedek priesthood, shouldn't tithing not be a voluntary and personal thing, as done by Abraham?