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What goes around comes around

Shame on nigeria and her individual states

The government urged Nigerians to report any road that is poorly constructed anywhere in the
country.
They are to send photographs of the road, location and name of the contractor to 08030986263,
08037086137 and 08106423197.

NOTED

Just can't stop imagining the numerous opportunities and benefits attached to this project for the host state and country if and when it fully starts production.

IBEJU LEKKI is poised to be the new world in the closest future if this is true.

MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS LAGOS STATE

FOR A GREATER LAGOS STATE

EKO O NII BAJE O

Bahamas95:
Is this not Nigeria? Just watch, those with connection will manoeuvre their way into the system.



You'll go to the hospital one-day to complain of toothache and a dentist will use screwdriver and plier to remove your teeth.

Why d'you guys always see negativity in everything？ BLAME, BLAME, BLAME, all the time.

Viserion:
so many crazy people walking around. may God help us

The tragedy came just days after Thai Prime
Minister Srettha Thavisin signed an order to stop
issuing gun licenses for a year in a bid to curb gun
violence in the country.
The official had vowed to tighten gun control in
Thailand, which has one of the highest gun
ownership and gun homicide rates in Asia,
following a shocking mall shooting in which a
teenage gunman opened fire at shoppers at a
Bangkok mall in October.

These should be messages for people who call for gun legalisation in NIGERIA to reflect on. What you aspire is aDESTRUCTIVEand CONSUMING FURNACE tha many will come to regret if it ever come to pass. OF COURSE, WE PRAY GOD HELP US ALL.

Okay, we wait to see

lexy2014:
what is the investment you are talking about?

Dubai chamber is the equivalent of Nigerian chamber of commerce and industry. so what are u celebrating?

REASON why I left one kuku- something （will correct his/er moniker later） to his/er mystery on a thread about GARRI days ago as you always have to explain everything to the OBIDIENTS and APOLOGISTS to the littlest details AND THEN GO TO THE TEMPLE TO BEG GOD TO GIVE THEM THE WISDOM TO UNDERSTAND. If you need your sanity, let them be: it's only the level of their IQ.

So if DUBAI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE is equivalent to NIGERIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, does it mean they're here just to idle around in the city of LAGOS？ Ain't it crystal clear the chamber will explore the opportunity（s） for the parent country/state in the area of commerce and encourage an exploitation into the opportunity（s） they deem worthy of their investment？
HA！ sometimes you wonder what the heck the forum is now turning to. O TI DI TAJA TERAN.

lexy2014:
you havent answered the questions.

1. what is the investment you are talking about?

2. Dubai chamber is the equivalent of Nigerian chamber of commerce and industry. so what are u celebrating?

Ain't I exonerated？ With all the answer to his question up there, he still can't understand. Never mind arguing with them forever if they don't comprehend, the level of their IQ just can't hit the height.

Of course, but it reduces the chance of facing troubles to a bearable minimum

Of course, but it reduces the chance of facing troubles to a bearable minimum

Can't beat grace

Time the IBADAN DRY PORT becomes fully operational with containers transported to the port on RAIL. Containerized vehicles get no business sharing our highways with us ,particularly not during daytime.
LASG and FG should act now

This ain't just blame game but the need to create awareness on the stage we are, the reason why we're here and for record keeping so that when things improve or otherwise, everybody can then call back on quote like this to juxtapose how well or poorly the NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN HAD PERFORMED.

If an aspirant for the number two seat in the country owns institution that in turn has trouble adhering to standard and rules of law, THEN IT'S SAFE TO SAY THE SAID COUNTRY WILL LIKELY RUN INTO CHAOS AND DISORGANIZATION IF SUCH GET ELECTED TO POWER.

CONGRATS NIGERIANS, WE JUST ESCAPED A STRAY BULLET

Standard must be reviewed and upgraded all round too. GOD BLESS NIGERIA

Happy birthday, sir. Long life and good health

Kukutenla:
This is funny. You disparaged Yemitan an historian who gave historical facts as a bigot and also claimed others are bloggers meanwhile your first link is actually an empty blog. The face to face Africa is also a blog and actually referenced Yemitan. Also, two other links including the litcaf referencedsame Yemitan. Saharareporters is a news site doing reporting and not any historical or archaeological research and it also referenced Yemitan. The africanarts link is empty too. Same with worldguru.

Most importantly, none of your links could mention at least 1 person she rescued from slavery since you claimed she fought against slavery. At least for some others like Ajayi Crowther, we have evidence and names of people he rescued.

Secondly, you claimed she died at 82 years and not 77 whereas your links put her she at 77.
Did your even read the links at all or you just dumped them because they came up with the word search "repentant" in relation to the subject? It's obvious you're poor at what you're attempting.

First of,my reference point began from YEMITAN's article. I haven't even disregard him, I hold my reservation until whom s/he is/was is available, all the bio details.
Remember you asked me to spot out the evidence of her repentance in that wikipedia article and that's what I did, citing that excerpt with explanation. And that you still request names of the slaves still shows more bigotry. The problem is, you keep discarding reality because it ain't the truth you wanted to hear：you would've loved the YEMITAN version to be true but reality says otherwise. YEMITAN was economical with information and truth. I suspect it might seem so s/he wouldn't have to contradict own self with DISPARAGING ALLEGATION s/he wanted to add along the line. THAT ASPECT/EXCERPT WAS ALWAYS THE POINT IN HER CHRONICLE THAT SHOWED HER ACTIVISM AGAINST SLAVE TRADE. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT MANY SUPPORTER OF HER REPENTANCE ADVOCATION OFTEN CITED AND EXPANTIATED WITH VIVIDITY BUT YEMITAN SOMEWHAT DECIDED TO GO OBSCURE. MANY BELIEVED SHE BECAME THE OTHER SLAVERS ENEMIES FORIT WHILE SHE IN TURN EARNED THE PEOPLE's RESPECT AND CELEBRATION WHILE THE OTHER SLAVE TRADERS WERE DEEMED TO BE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN BY THAT SAME PEOPLE. THOSE WHO BEGAN TO IMMORTALIZED HER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HER TIME, WHO KNEW HER FIRST HAND, AND PEOPLE WHO WERE SLAVES SHE HAD, WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER THAN ANY OTHER
Truth is, YEMITAN record is insane and is only been supportd by bigots who hated ...EFUNROYE TINUBU's gut. According to the article's claim of the other slave traders being the actual heroes （as that's what it's claimed） like I already started in previous post, How can s/he （YEMITAN）defend claim the yoruba people （not only Lagosians here as she had monument in Abeokuta too）are inconsistent？ HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HIS/ER CLAIM THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALWAYS CELEBRATED ANYBODY WHO'D DONE AN HEROIC DEED FOR THEM （there are a good number of such names before and after this era that are still been celebrated till today) SUDDENLY CHANGE TO DISREGARD SUCH？ AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HER CLAIM THAT YORUBA PEOPLE SUDDENLY BEGIN TO CELEBRATE VILLIAN WHO FAILED TO REPENT （when they'd always detest such with good number of evidences from before and after her era）？She was even immortalized by slaves whom YEMITAN said she unrepentantly maltreated. IT NEVER ADD UP. THE REALITY SAYS YEMITAN IS A LIAR WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT S/HE WAS SAYING AT SOME POINT OF HIS/ER ARTICLE.
Meanwhile, please go back to my referenced links, there are LASU online portal, Sahare Reporter, another local media e-page, and a lagos state supported art event reported by its e-publication all of which are RELIABLE evidences.
And I didn't even disqualify any blog anywhere: what I said was that every other blog/media that anybody can cite that has YEMITAN version of the story sourced their information from nowhere other than his/er wikipedia page. Simple. You can prove me wrong though.
LASTLY, what superior sources of evidence could anyone seek of anything/anyone other than the one from the origin or witness？ EFUNROYE TINUBU was rightly celebrated before her death, she was immortalized after death by people &relatives who knew her, lived with her and who breathe the same air with her, and she was idolized by even slaves she owned （as some of them adopted her name to keep her memory forever). These are the first line of evidence anywhere. Thus, her neighbours, her tribe, the two states she resided, her awards, her immortalisation, the celebration of her name, all right from the day she died, all denotes that she died a heroine. I don't know any better evidence surpassing that.

AND you ask of names of slaves she rescued； well, I didn't tell you she stopped the trade RAMBO-like, storming the den of the bad guys, killing them and picking up the victims. No, there's always a better way to go about things without unnecessary bloodshed. She was the biggest trader and Middleman and she just cut off all links between buyers and sellers. She controlled the shoreline and determined activities that went on there. She frustrated sales by ensuring no traders had access to these europeans that only arrived via the port and fight off secret meeting too. Remenber, the other traders only complained about her excessive influence that was blocking their business and not her INTRUSION because she didn't intrude into any properties.

face2faceAfrica and wordguru ain't empty. Perhaps, you're using unsupported browsers. JUST rechecked them now

Kukutenla:
This is funny. You disparaged Yemitan an historian who gave historical facts as a bigot and also claimed others are bloggers meanwhile your first link is actually an empty blog. The face to face Africa is also a blog and actually referenced Yemitan. Also, two other links including the litcaf referencedsame Yemitan. Saharareporters is a news site doing reporting and not any historical or archaeological research and it also referenced Yemitan. The africanarts link is empty too. Same with worldguru.

Most importantly, none of your links could mention at least 1 person she rescued from slavery since you claimed she fought against slavery. At least for some others like Ajayi Crowther, we have evidence and names of people he rescued.

Secondly, you claimed she died at 82 years and not 77 whereas your links put her she at 77.
Did your even read the links at all or you just dumped them because they came up with the word search "repentant" in relation to the subject? It's obvious you're poor at what you're attempting.

First of,my reference point began from YEMITAN's article. I haven't even disregard him, I hold my reservation until whom s/he is/was is available, all the bio details.
Remember you asked me to spot out the evidence of her repentance in that wikipedia article and that's what I did, citing that excerpt with explanation. And that you still request names of the slaves still shows more bigotry. The problem is, you keep discarding reality because it ain't the truth you wanted to hear：you would've loved the YEMITAN version to be true but reality says otherwise. YEMITAN was economical with information and truth. I suspect it might seem so s/he wouldn't have to contradict own self with DISPARAGING ALLEGATION s/he wanted to add along the line. THAT ASPECT/EXCERPT WAS ALWAYS THE POINT IN HER CHRONICLE THAT SHOWED HER ACTIVISM AGAINST SLAVE TRADE. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT MANY SUPPORTER OF HER REPENTANCE ADVOCATION OFTEN CITED AND EXPANTIATED WITH VIVIDITY BUT YEMITAN SOMEWHAT DECIDED TO GO OBSCURE. MANY BELIEVED SHE BECAME THE OTHER SLAVERS ENEMIES FORIT WHILE SHE IN TURN EARNED THE PEOPLE's RESPECT AND CELEBRATION WHILE THE OTHER SLAVE TRADERS WERE DEEMED TO BE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN BY THAT SAME PEOPLE. THOSE WHO BEGAN TO IMMORTALIZED HER ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN HER TIME, WHO KNEW HER FIRST HAND, AND PEOPLE WHO WERE SLAVES SHE HAD, WHO WERE CLOSEST TO HER THAN ANY OTHER
Truth is, YEMITAN record is insane and is only been supportd by bigots who hated ...EFUNROYE TINUBU's gut. According to the article's claim of the other slave traders being the actual heroes （as that's what it's claimed） like I already started in previous post, How can s/he （YEMITAN）defend claim the yoruba people （not only Lagosians here as she had monument in Abeokuta too）are inconsistent？ HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HIS/ER CLAIM THAT THE PEOPLE THAT'S ALWAYS CELEBRATED ANYBODY WHO'D DONE AN HEROIC DEED FOR THEM （there are a good number of such names before and after this era that are still been celebrated till today) SUDDENLY CHANGE TO DISREGARD SUCH？ AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, HOW DID S/HE CARE TO DEFEND HER CLAIM THAT YORUBA PEOPLE SUDDENLY BEGIN TO CELEBRATE VILLIAN WHO FAILED TO REPENT （when they'd always detest such with good number of evidences from before and after her era）？She was even immortalized by slaves whom YEMITAN said she unrepentantly maltreated. IT NEVER ADD UP. THE REALITY SAYS YEMITAN IS A LIAR WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT S/HE WAS SAYING AT SOME POINT OF HIS/ER ARTICLE.
Meanwhile, please go back to my referenced links, there are LASU online portal, Sahare Reporter, another local media e-page, and a lagos state supported art event reported by its e-publication all of which are RELIABLE evidences.
And I didn't even disqualify any blog anywhere: what I said was that every other blog/media that anybody can cite that has YEMITAN version of the story sourced their information from nowhere other than his/er wikipedia page. Simple. You can prove me wrong though.
LASTLY, what superior sources of evidence could anyone seek of anything/anyone other than the one from the origin or witness？ EFUNROYE TINUBU was rightly celebrated before her death, she was immortalized after death by people &relatives who knew her, lived with her and who breathe the same air with her, and she was idolized by even slaves she owned （as some of them adopted her name to keep her memory forever). These are the first line of evidence anywhere. Thus, her neighbours, her tribe, the two states she resided, her awards, her immortalisation, the celebration of her name, all right from the day she died, all denotes that she died a heroine. I don't know any better evidence surpassing that.

AND you ask of names of slaves she rescued； well, I didn't tell you she stopped the trade RAMBO-like, storming the den of the bad guys, killing them and picking up the victims. No, there's always a better way to go about things without unnecessary bloodshed. She was the biggest trader and Middleman and she just cut off all links between buyers and sellers. She controlled the shoreline and determined activities that went on there. She frustrated sales by ensuring no traders had access to these europeans that only arrived via the port and fight off secret meeting too. Remenber, the other traders only complained about her excessive influence that was blocking their business and not her INTRUSION because she didn't intrude into any properties.

Eight good years had elapse before SHE SUDDENLY REMEMBERED SHE WAS MOLESTED ONCE UPON A TIME.

Hmmmm

LAGOS should be ashamed of this stat. Meanwhile, kudos to oyo

Thank God LAGOS escape this and the state should ensure such menace has no chance of creeping in back to the society

boxypane:
I pray they don't frustrate the process

Amen

All is well！

He's headed for his own GWR. It （GWR） seems to be the thing in vogue now

WESTERN NIGERIA, SO BLESSED
GOD BLESS SOUTHWEST STATES OF NIGERIA
GOD BLESS ALL YORUBAS

Islam will,still outlive the country. ISLAM is headed for eternity whether they like it or not.

IMPRESSIVE but ensure this policy is religiously followed through
GOD BLESS NIGERIA

boxypane:
Where SIEMENS deal dey?

Ongoing. It will come,on stream in phases and the target remains 25GW.
The gas project, already underway, will improve FX and the pedigree of NIGERIA as a nation. GOOD JOBS, President @officialABAT Bola Ahmed TINUBU.


GOD BLESS NIGERIA

GOD BLESS WELL MEANING NIGERIANS TOO

Kukutente23:
What?! Disdain? Why will I show disdain towards an historical figure? Did she sell me or any of my family members into slavery? I'm arguing with you based on historical facts and not emotions or apologetics.
Here are captions of her biography on Wikipedia. Show me where she ever fought against slavery. You can see that even till her dying days, she was still advocating for and actively engaging in slave trading

What other source would you cite other than YEMITAN？ IT'S always the cite bigots reference and the few who don't go for it, still end up citing bloggers whose information were sourced from OLADIPO YEMITAN's wiki page.
TO start, have you ask yourself who YEMITAN is/was？ YES, who is OLADIPO YEMITAN and what's his biography and qualification？ I have searched internet to know him/er but each time, it's all about the WIKIPEDIA page or a mention directed to it as reference.
I don't want to believe you're all the while basing your argument on the purported findings of a nonentities, so if you've got his bio details, avail them to me to help clear SOME DOUBTS？



AGE CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION.

The acceptable year of birth is 1805 not 1810 as speculated by YEMITAN. This is the reality as documented by the two states wherein she spent her lifetime.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/01/10/133-years-after-family-well-wishers-celebrate-madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-yoruba-unsung-heroine

She died aged 82 years, not 77.

YEMITAN ECONOMICAL WITH INFORMATION/TRUTH

Further, she obtained a tract of land
from Akitoye which now constitutes part of the present-day
Tinubu Square and Kakawa Street. Later, a conflict
developed between Tinubu and some slave traders including
Possu, a Kosoko loyalist. Consequently, Possu, Ajenia, and
other traders tried to instigate an uprising against Akitoye
because of Madam Tinubu's influence in Lagos. In the
interest of peace, Benjamin Campbell , the British Consul in
Lagos, asked Akitoye to exile Tinubu. [19]
..................

THE above was an excerpt from YEMITAN wiki page. Did you ask yourself what actually was the reason of the conflict between her and other slavers？And what else would it have been other than her interference in their business over her committed resolution to put an end to the system？ Like I posited at one earliest post, the other slavers were also disallowed to further trading and they began scheming against her to the extent of seeking help from the royals over her overbearing influence that's made life unbearable for them. They succeeded in getting sympathy from the colony masters who, to note, already hate her excesses amidst the numerous troubles she caused them while trying to stamp down authority in the land.
Why didn't Yemitan seek clarification over this and if he wanted to claim those ones were the heroes fighting against slave trade by Madam EFUNROYE, why weren't they the celebrated heroes instead, especially in a society like LAGOS that celebrated every heroic deeds of their people before and during colonial rules？
STUUUUPID Yemitan somewhat believed the people DISREGARDED THOSE FIGHTING FOR THEM JUST TO CELEBRATE THEIR OPPRESSOR？ And this was the LAGOS THAT WAS ALREADY LIVING IN IMPROVING CIVILITY AND LITERACY？ How does it add up？ Just how？

INDIGENOUS EVIDENCE

LASU portal refers to her as repentant slaver：
LAGOS STATE UNIVERSITY DISCOVERY AND RECORD PRO
https://lasucom.edu.ng/2021/02/05/aluminie-forum/

LAGOS STATE SUPPORTED EVENT ALSO PROCLAIMED HER REPENTANCE （and hinted on the role colonial governor, GLOVER, played in her return to LAGOS when she was initially banished. Note that GLOVER was a very popular colonial leader with lagosians for his fantastic system of governance. And this included Madam Tinubu to a point）：
https://www.africanartswithtaj.com/2011/09/adeola-baloguns-monuments.html?m=1


OTHER BLOGS/MEDIA ALSO RECOUNTING HER REPENTANCE AS WRITTEN BY YORUBA HISTORIANS：

https://saharareporters.com/2011/01/18/house-tinubu-built

https://litcaf.com/efunroye-tinubu/

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/madam-efunroye-tinubu-the-repentant-nigerian-slave-trader-who-helped-abolish-the-practice-in-the-1800s

https://www.wordguru.rocks/single-post/2018/09/17/african-history-of-selling-slaves


NAIRALAND TOPIC WHO HAD TREATED IT ALREADY：

https://www.nairaland.com/4696979/how-madam-efunroye-tinubu-aided

OH almost forgot the ALATISE part. Do you realized OGUNDIPE ALATISE was just another chiefs in the ruling cabinet of historic EGBALAND？ He was the most revered of the fierce warlords who finally put the DAHOMEY in their place. Guess with the help of who： IYALODE EFUNROYE of course. She continued wielding enormous influence in EGBA too that she continued her kingmaker role by helping the installation of an ALAKE OF EGBA too. Who would drag such to another chief to judge irrespective of whom？ HOW？ WHAT WAS THE JUDGEMENT？ WHO EXECUTED IT AND HOW WAS IT EXECUTED？

SOMETIMES you should be able to spot event that never add up. We all have brains so we can use it.

IF holy books presented and/or proclaimed repented sinners as GOOD PEOPLE, why do we have problem accepting her U-TURN and why would some people rather believe UNKNOWN HISTORIAN （Yemitan）over TRADITIONALIST WHOSE FOREFATHERS ORALLY HANDED THEM WITNESSED RECORD THAT MADE THEM IMMORTALIZED HER.
SHE WASN'T THE ONLY SLAVERS, WHY WASN'T OTHERS CELEBRATED？ WHY DID EVEN SOME OF HER SLAVES ADOPTED HER NAME TO KEEP IT RUNNING FOREVER？
WHY WAS SHE HIGHLY REGARDED IN SUCH YORUBA LAND OF OLD THAT DETEST AND FOREVER DEMONIZE EVIL？

Great you admitted fault but whether the mistake was intentional or not, this must not repeat itself to forestall seeing the state in bad lights and this shouldn't just end here, investigate to be sure it's entirely an honest mistake

Good