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dmcdad:
All these are redundant i must say and it still doesn't alter in any way my last post. Accept it or not. You are just trying hard to prove a non-existent point. i stated simply in my last post that, if my post is, as it were a fallacy since there was no basis for backing it up, the post I quoted also would be fallacious as it wasn't backed up either. he said he "heard". Is that enough evidence?

My point? I never said I was right/wrong about what I stated in my post, I only said for the fact that my post was a fallacy as stated by you, that would mean both are fallacies as they are both baseless. Is this too much to understand? It ain't rocket science, and doesn't require some...

And please, be wise enough not to accuse me of what I never wrote. I never stated it categorically as a fact. I guess you have a problem with comprehension there.

Let's see who has comprehension problem then:
Note the bolded affirmations too;

dmcdad :
Messi smokes? Nah nah nah... If that
were true, I guess I would have read it
somewhere. Afterall, the media come up
with things (both the ones he did or is
guilty of as well as the ones he didn't
and would never do), and of those things
I have never read anywhere that he
smokes. That should be false most
definitely. Moreover, Mathieu that came
just some few months back is well
confirmed to be a smoker. Can you
imagine Messi being a smoker and the
media haven't done justice to him all
these years?
Anything Messi is news, and a case of
smoking should be more news than
news (lol) because they just can't leave
La Pulga alone. He is that good!
So, from my own knowledge, that is most
definitely false.

Are those statements still opinions? Is it that You don't understand what a Fallacy means or you have problem admitting your own faults?
I will end here....Everybody can see the point being made!! Nice night!!

Hmnmmm......Nice story @Phinix.....
I will still continue to say that Knowledge is power,and with Knowledge,we Lose fear...Your story has confirmed a truth too ....The truth that only those in the light will understand.... But,its a pity though!!
@Lastchild,do whatever suits you bro.....But only true knowledge can set ones soul free....
You free yourself from an Entity probably masquerading as A Demon with the help of an Entity who has better knowledge about the Disguising entity, Utterly and wholly entering into the bondage of The Masquerading Helper........
Knowledge is Power truly
......

dmcdad:
Neither does it change the fact that it is not!

It's a 50-50 thingy here. If mine were to be borne outta fallacy, possibly because of it's unverifiable, the post which i quoted too would be fallacious too as it ain't verified as well. In which case you failed to acknowledge the fallacy that lies in that too.

So, next time, if you quote me for making such an assertion, you should also quote the original post for making an assertion too.

Got that?

And the fallacy goes on.......
I remember stating vividly,the two fallacies you committed in your statement I quoted.....
Your Statement is a fallacy because it lacks concrete fact to support its basis and conclusion...
1)You said because You have not read or heard that Messi smokes in any News media and therefore, he does not smoke...This is fallacy of Appeal to Authority ( Argumentum ad Verecundiam)..The fact that no news media has written anything about it does not make it a lie,neither does it make it a truth....But your statement was one of affirmation...
2)For the Fact that you really don't know the truthfulness of the assertion that Messi smokes,but decide to state an opinion that has turned to a statement of fact,makes you commit the fallacy of Appeal to Ignorance(Argumentum ad Ignorantiam).........
The Main thing I want you to realise is that when saying your opinions, Don't turn it into a statement of Fact...Say it as an Opinion and nothing more

gatiano:
xaxaxa, well, perhaps you didn't place it well, your sarcasm seem intelligent than it ought to be.

Maybe you misunderstood it.....

MrPresident1:
And I repeat, you are a reprobate brute beast devoid of even the littlest shard of common sense.

The Jewish Talmud of the fake jews is very different from the Holy Bible, and you can go to blazes if you do not believe that.

Which babies were murdered? Can you provide us with the references, you demonic nitwit.

Cherry-picking and deliberate misquotation of the Holy Bible is the stuff of demons.

Psalm 137:9
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Did you bother to show us what Edom did too deserve this kind of fearful Judgement, do you even have an idea who Edom is? The judgement pronounced upon Edom is the punishment for her sins against the children of God;

Psalm 137:7-8
7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

In the day that Jerusalem was captured, Esau the red, plundered and violated his brother. He showed his brother no mercy in the day of his brother's calamity. He will be punished for his wickedness and his unending anger against his brother.

Lamentation 4:20-21
21 Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of Edom, that dwellest in the land of Uz; the cup also shall pass through unto thee: thou shalt be drunken, and shalt make thyself naked.
22 The punishment of thine iniquity is accomplished, O daughter of Zion; he will no more carry thee away into captivity: he will visit thine iniquity, O daughter of Edom; he will discover thy sins.

The cup must pass unto Edom, she will drink of the cup of The Lord's wrath too.

Wise man......Hope what you wrote above makes you feel good?
Rejoice all ye earthly son of the Most High God,You have defeated a demonic son of Lucifer on the path of Perdition!! F**l!!!

dmcdad:
Nah... I refuse to be put to the test. Get behind me...

It doesn't change the fact that your post is still a fallacy bro!!

gatiano:
My arguement was whether or not the flood was world wide. in my arguement, it was not world wide. where exactly, i do not know. that a host of angel help him build it was a fabrication of whiteman's lies. There were only black people, as there are no angel that have wings. angel are just like us. you could be one, i could be one, if either or both of us are one, we will know it based on what knowledge you or i possess. poeple love to believe in spooks, mysteries, that way, it is easy for them to dump their responsibilties.

Hmmmmm....Seems you don't understand sarcasm!!

dmcdad:
Abeg no make me start oooooo. Else, this thread no go contain all the Latin, Greek, Hebrew, French, German and Spanish terms wey I go use.

To avoid stories that touch...

Start!!

timmy2409:
The list of problems with the story of Noah's Ark is ridiculously LONG, but I'll highlight a few

1. Through our boat building experience over the past millenia, we know that a sea-worthy vessel with such dimensions as described in the bible cannot be made entirely out of wood. The Wyoming, which is the largest wooden ship modern humans ever built was heavily reinforced with steel, and still here's her story:



2. The Ark as described could not possibly contain the amount of species we see in the world today, not even to talk of the enormous amounts of food they would require for a year. Below is a size comparison of the ark with modern ships. For reference, the Titanic was able to carry about 3500 people, with enough food for 2 weeks.

https://cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/img/articles/am/v2/n2/ships.jpg

3. The logistics involved with getting all the species to and from the ship to their various current locations are just transparently impossible. The life span of so many animals and insects are so short that they would have died before even making it off their continents. Moreover a majority would have had to leave their niche habitats from the tropics, savannahs and deserts, outside of which they cannot survive. Also, how did the kangaroos, for example, get back to Australia from Mount Ararat in Turkey (where the Ark landed), without leaving any fossil evidence for their journey along the way? How did they cross the Indian ocean even? The same argument can be extended to the myriad of animals that are only found on certain continents, like koalas, polar bears, etc

4. What happened to the millions of species of microorganisms and half a million species of plants who would have not survived in such conditions? How about aquatic life? Across the board, a flood of the described proportions greatly distorts habitat qualities like salinity, pressure, and microbial density, all of which aquatic life require to survive.

5. How is it that God saw it fit to save all the species of animal on earth, but kill his beloved humans? Because of sin, you say? OK, well did the flood get rid of sin? Noah's family was back at it as soon as the ship landed! So it would seem like this was a failed exercise from the all-knowing. On another note, would you like to estimate how many sinless babies and little children died in that flood?

That's as far as I can tolerate writing about this BS.

Don't mind them jare...

astronautog:
and how do an atheist tell me that life suddenly started earth moon millions of stars galaxies suddenly came into existence doesn't sound logical,talkin of logical how do u explain a place where no plane can fly over or througham talkin abt bemurda triangle located in pacific ocean doesn't sound logical abi??yet it is one of the mystery humans are yet to uncover.the truth is that life its self is a mystery and notin abt it is logical the more u try to underrstan it the more u lose it

There is nothing illogical about life to people who are in control of their lives and Destiny...Only people who have been brainwashed to believe that a God out there is in control of their lives!!

gatiano:
it is real, every boat that flows today is according to the dimension of how noah's boat was built.

And How many animals will the Worlds largest Ship today carry? And yet The Boat of an archaic man whose only help was his family could build a boat that carried The Whole Animal in the World(Oh I forgot,The Whole Host of A Billion Angels helped him build it!!)......

sonOfLucifer:
Fresh and salt water fish survived. Anteaters and ants dwelt in harmony. Millions of insects were gathered on an ark for the ultimate vacation trip. Yahweh took care of all these while millions of men, women and children drowned outside. Tufiakwa!!!

That's Great....Lol!! He is an All Merciful God!!

OJODEL10:
i want you to knw that nt al animals can die in water and worms can live in water. perhaps they can dig into the ground to stay there as in fishes and others. so god has ways he wil do his works.crab and others can burrow into the soil so they dont need noah's ark.

And they must find Excuses.......... Na wa ooooo....

Yooguyz:
What makes you think it was impossible? In fact the archeaological evidence seems to suggest the existence of noahs ark. Babylonian historians recant a similar account that tallys with the same time of biblical account.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2273143

Lol.....Christians and there Psychosclerosis head..... So The whole Fishes in the world today entered into the ark? All the Mammoths,Reptiles,Herbivores,Whales,Shark,Crocodiles,Hippos,Rhino's etc entered into the ark?
All The Animals from All over the World crossed the Atlantic and headed to go and be rescued in Noah's ark? Chai!!!!! I weep for St*pidity..I weep for The Years I believed in this sheer Folly!! I weep for How people still tie into pure lies both at face value and inward view!! Can't people just use their head,their intellect,Their Common Sense for crying out loud?
But no!! Don't Use Logic in Christianity

dmcdad:
Messi smokes? Nah nah nah... If that were true, I guess I would have read it somewhere. Afterall, the media come up with things (both the ones he did or is guilty of as well as the ones he didn't and would never do), and of those things I have never read anywhere that he smokes. That should be false most definitely. Moreover, Mathieu that came just some few months back is well confirmed to be a smoker. Can you imagine Messi being a smoker and the media haven't done justice to him all these years?

Anything Messi is news, and a case of smoking should be more news than news (lol) because they just can't leave La Pulga alone. He is that good!

So, from my own knowledge, that is most definitely false.

This your Statement can be called Fallacy of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam and Argumentum ad Verecundiam....

phinix:
Good day guyz sorry I couldn't respond earlier but now I can try to be as precise as I can so that you (last child) and anyone out there who is in a desperate situation will know that in life THERE IS ALWAYS A SOLUTION TO EVERY CASE. Firstly, never loose hope because that's what keeps you going but u have to base your hope on something ..since I had tried the same things over and over with the same results then I had to try something different to get a different result. What am about to tell u is exactly what I did and am still doing that has totally liberated me from the bondage I was in. It requires little or no money but lots of time and patience, I strongly advice that you try it since you've tried every thing else . what you will need is a HOLY BIBLE and that's all. Before I continue I will like u to know that prior to this time I really doubted if there was a God and even if he existed he must be wicked after all my dad and mum always called upon him so where was he when they died or may be he is d God of the Jews alone after all Christianity is a foreign concept in fact @ one point I started dabbling into demonic stuff because I lost all belief in this " all loving God", in fact if anyone deserved to be an atheist it was me, I actually felt justified that there's no God any where. But when all hope was lost I took this same BIBLE myself after locking my room and crying desperately from my heart remember God sees your heart and he is not interested in your self pity stunt I asked him if truly you exist and you created me then why not help me..I was sort of expecting some shiny lights and maybe some angels flapping their wings instead I was met with absolute silence, in fact it seemed as if my situation became worst. But I just decided

Wonders shall never end!!

macof:
Another religio-tard, you simply can't give sensible advice. Must you threaten with ur delusional religious mythology?

I use to be against your views and Ideas,but I now agree in certain things with you shaa....Certain things!!

frustratedman:
I replied you

check your mail...

frustratedman:
How? Tell me more about Lucifer since God has failed me

I just sent u a mail...
Send me a mail let me give your some links and guide you tru!!

frustratedman:
I'm suffering from frustration, depression, societal rejection, joblessness and hopelessness

You live in absolute negativity!! Lucifer can help you see what you actually need to liberate yourself from those negative energies with simple knowledge!!

frustratedman:
I am seriouly considering suicide once again. I think I will have to take this bold step once and for all instead of facing all these problems and challenges. God has been wicked and so harsh to me. I have waited for over 2 months for his intervention but things keeps getting worse. I will kill myself and end this life of misery. I already made arrangements this morning and it won't take long before my story hit the news. I have lost hope and all I had. I give up on life, and God. I will die with my frustrations

....
Joke of the Century......

Austeenx:
seriously, i really don't understand zubizarreta.
out of all the defenders in this world, why vermaelen?

E don do Na...Deed has already been done.
.

MrPresident1:
Cherry-picking and deliberate misquotation of the scriptures is demonic. Beware.

From the 16th verse of Numbers 31, we see why God ordered the midianites to be destroyed; they enticed the Israelites into idolatry (worship of baal-peor). Idolatry is evil, devilish and demonic, it is the forbidden fruit that Adam and Eve ate. Idolatry is the parent sin; the source of all the evil in the world.

Numbers 31:16
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

You lack understanding, a reprobate brute beast is what you are.

Hmmmmmm...
Cherry-picking? I guess the children and babies murdered and converted into s*x slaves enticed the Jews too right? And You are so wise,you don't even realise how childish your post is.....You Think Numbers is the only book in your bible that Illustrated how Bloodthirsty Yahweh is? Christians!!! You picked only the one you thought you could defend and replied,How about the rest of the post? How about:
Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that
taketh
and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones....
Cherry-Picking he says; As if I put it there!!

4C2215131:
By all means, just busy right now.

Alright...whenever you are ready,holla @ me!!

4C2215131:
If I have the SLIGHTEST inkling that what I'm seeing may not be whom I called forth, then I must initiate verification procedures. Again, test the entity by asking it simple questions you know the answer to (nope, it can't read your mind to pluck the answer from it). If the entity answers correctly,it may be trusted (ask more than one question of course) but if it takes you on a mental excursion and philosophical merry-go-round, Red Flag...just answer the question dammit!

So beware the entity you evoke, some are notorious liars.

Can we chat in private?

4C2215131:
I beg to differ...un-balanced entities (so called Deamons) do lie...oh how they lie!

They can even masquerade as another hence the mage has to be well versed in the sublime arts. Verification of identity is a must, should the mage have the slightest shadow of a doubt with regards to the entity he has called up.

Okay....Have they lied to you?

Noah13:
Since you can't understand the post...


I give up.

How block-headed can one be?! Gosh!

I won't resort to animalistic means with you!! Enjoy your day!!!!

Noah13:
Can you point out the insult?
Since to understand the post so well, explain how Elche being in the CL position at some point in the league realate to your recalling of teams that qualified for the CL in the last 10 yrs?

You have comprehension problem bro......
The below is your post:

How can you call a league competitive when
their top 3 is always constant.
La liga can't be called competitive until Elche
snaps a champions league spot at some point
in the league.

Is this not the statement of someone who lacks Basis for his claim?
How about QPR qualifying for Champions league? Upon all the competitiveness, Stoke City,Everton,Etc have still not qualified for a UCL; it has been the same teams all the time....
Even when they play in Europa league,they are easily eliminated....One would have thought with the competitiveness,they will be reaching at least Semi-finals and finals every season...But then,the reverse is the case.... Can you refute this?
Competitiveness my foot!! EPL IS JUST THE MOST OVERHYPED LEAGUE IN THE WORLD.
....Competitiveness comes with money and Good club structure...That's why Chelsea and Man City are top guns in EPL today....Comprende?

barackohandso:
Honestly I don't believe people still see la liga as a two horse race

See chelsea curently running away with the EPL (thanks to last season's la liga best striker) and nobody's saying anything. If same were happening in la liga, they'll say it's because it's la liga

The excuse is dry now

Has always been dry.....

bykebyke:
I woke up thinking...‪#‎MessiforBallonDor‬

If He continues as he did yesteday, He will.......
He is loved by all....

coded01:
The list plenty pass dat 1 sef...


I purposely no wan reach dat side cos this thread no go fit contain am...


No mind am, always arguing abt so called best league, see as common CSK moscow dey school EPL defending champions 4 etihad...

It is no wonder people refer to them as touts in Nigeria...Always arguing like harebrained fellas!!!

Noah13:
Mr man, try to understand a post before quoting it. Why dafuq are you mentioning qualifying for the CL? Was that my point? Read and understand the post, before your spill this kinda sh+t next time.

Maybe next time,you try and understand your own post before you post it.....
Resorting to Insult does not make you wise,it shows how frustrated and ignorant and misguided you are.....
Wasn't your post I quoted about Competitiveness?
People self!!