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95 is not a bad age to rest in peace

johnydon22:
1st Op is a Christian. .
2nd we do understand faith far more than you do because we have once being there.
[b]Faith simply means hold on to your convictions whether it is true or not...just believe it....Isn't that dishonesty? [/b]

The kind of faith Christians are required to have is not what you have defined above.


See you have shown how faith is a dishonest position.

First you weren't there, only read it in a book.

2nd you recognize the tendency of the event happening is improbable and against reason or reality.

but then as someone with "Faith" you just have to believe it did..

Your Faith in anything doesn't make it true, it doesn't even make it probably true. .That you have faith that 5bread fed 5,000 and remained 12 baskets doesn't make this true.

That a muslim have faith that muhammed split the moon doesn't make it true..

So you see, you can have faith all you want, it has no effect on reality neither can it make a lie to become true..

[b]Your faith simply means you believe something against reason, logic or coincide to reality...[/b]

First off, my faith is based on the supreme intelligent being we call God. The reason why i mentioned faith is because God requires this of us, this is the basis of Christianity for us believers.

That said, reason and logic both support the existence of God. Let me pick a few points based on reason and logic to further stress my view.

Since existence is like a gift given from cause to effect, therefore there must be something which has to exist, which cannot not exist

The fact that the universe displays a staggering amount of intelligibility, both within the things we observe and in the way these things relate to others outside themselves, even nature displays this same pattern of many different beings working together to produce the same valuable, for example, the organs in the body work for our life and health, is this chance or as a result of an intelligent being?

The intelligible universe and the finite minds well suited to grasp it are certainly the products of intelligence not chance.

Our limited mind can discover eternal truths about being, but the nature of the human mind is not eternal why do we perceive eternal truths? surely there must be an eternal mind in which these eternal truths reside as we perceive them.

We have ideas of many things, thinking patterns that arise either from within us or things outside of us. Many of us have the idea of a perfect being, a supreme intelligent existence, but human nature is imperfect and limited so where did this idea come from? Surely this idea comes from something outside of us which has these qualities we perceive. But only the infinite supreme being has these qualities human nature is imperfect, is it not possible that an infinite intelligent being must be the cause of this idea we perceive?

We all know that real moral obligation is a fact, we are really, truly, objectively obligated to do good and avoid evil. Moral obligation can hardly be rooted in a material motion blind to purpose, how possible is it that material motion will make me do good?

It is assumed that we should all go by the rule never disobey your own conscience, why do we attach such authority to our conscience? surely a supreme being is the only adequate source and ground for the absolute moral obligation we all feel to obey our conscience.

The material world we know is a world of change Self-moving things, like animal bodies, are moved by desire or will(something other than mere molecules). And when the animal or human dies, the molecules remain in motion, but the body no longer moves because the desire or will is no longer present to move it. If there is nothing outside the material universe, then there is nothing that can cause the universe to change, but it changes. Isn't it reality that there must be something else in addition to the material universe, something causing it to act? But the universe is the sum total of all matter, space and time. These three things depend on each other. If there is something causing it to act, then this being exists outside the universe, outside matter, space and time. It is not a changing thing; it is the unchanging source of change.

Now, using reason and logic, if there truly is an intelligent being which we Christians believe there is, his power is infinite and his abilities are beyond limit, therefore i believe that there is nothing impossible for him to do, whether i was there or not.

It luks cute on 5 year olds, makes him luk like 1 of them

What is happening to men?!

johnydon22:
1st Op is a Christian. .
2nd we do understand faith far more than you do because we have once being there.
Faith simply means hold on to your convictions whether it is true or not...just believe it....Isn't that dishonesty?


See you have shown how faith is a dishonest position.

First you weren't there, only read it in a book.

2nd you recognize the tendency of the event happening is improbable and against reason or reality.

but then as someone with "Faith" you just have to believe it did..

Your Faith in anything doesn't make it true, it doesn't even make it probably true. .That you have faith that 5bread fed 5,000 and remained 12 baskets doesn't make this true.

That a muslim have faith that muhammed split the moon doesn't make it true..

So you see, you can have faith all you want, it has no effect on reality neither can it make a lie to become true..

Your faith simply means you believe something against reason, logic or coincide to reality...

I am on my way to church, will respond this later.

An2elect2:
Dearie the Christian faith is logical and sometimes supersedes logic. It is not illogical for our God who created the world out of nothing to multiply into thousands few pieces of bread and fish.

Thanks sis, I know it is logical, but in the first place atheist will contest the line of thought. They don't believe God exists talk less of creating the world. May I ask why you believe He created the world? I know your answer already and it is based on faith.

Jn 3:16

Because it's the greatest luv story I ever heard

@Seun, why not creat sub-sections for major religions, then leave the main one open to all.

@OP are u asking Christians or athiests? As a Christian my religion is based on faith, something an atheist will not have the privilege of understanding.

Of cause it really happened, there's no logic behind my belief rather there's faith that it did.

989900:
That is the part that made me write the long 'tory' . . . who saves N16m cash (life savings), earning peanuts, over 9 years, without investing it in something tangible?

Most people that do, have other sources of wealth/investments.

That was why I used my own scenario 2

Will you want your grandchild to spend 15 million on surgery for u @ 95? To fully recover from major surgery that cost that much you can imagine how long it will take, even @ 85 doctors will think twice about operating you talkless of 95.

You will be praying for them to let you die in peace sef, remember at that age you will be suffering old age related illnesses, be sincere to yourself.

He should have focused on what he went there for, see now he has lossed his life RIP

So true

One day this boy will become a meal for the snake, but how can his parents allow this

@OP continue writing list, only 30? Write until you reach 1000.

@95, am not too sure she will want to keep living

cherieb2:
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh we are der once again...*looking down from 20 storey building with my binaculars*..I still can't c chelsea. GGMU

Lol

Stone throwing religion

What do you all expect from a herdsman

andromida:
Your brother seems selfish- he is not enjoying sex he wants to quit who told him she is enjoying sex with him? No wonder she is not inspired to go the extra mile with him. Its all about him.

Your brother just has to be patient she is not a dish he ordered off the menu that he can return like that. He should learn to understand the woman he is married to and what makes her tick he is not the only one who has to be understood.

This is the truth.

Has he asked his wife what she prefers? Maybe they can seek a marriage counsellor. There's no need for divorce @ all, at least she's not denying him his conjugal rights.

Boko language

Most homes are dysfunctional, people are liars, don't bother yourself arguing with them. My parents were not divorced but like many marriages theirs was not a bed of roses. This country is full of fake people and double standards, why stigmatize a child?

If the mum had just dropped this child in an orphanage he/she will still be alive

See this fine baby

What happened to the companionship and helpmate theory which God brought to us?

Husbands love your wife, if you do you wouldn't need to worry about submission, most ladies will submit to a man who loves and cares.

Good

No one is talking about his marital status Yet Linda Ikeji was insulted and dissed for celebrating her 35th birthday as a single lady

It's a man's world indeed

Sijo01:
No females

The man is practicing sharia system of governance where women are excluded from holding important positions in his cabinet. Unlike GEJ who was and still is the best. I saw this coming hence i refused to vote for him.

MrsPhyno:
Me don dey start to wonder o......
But at least them no reach that level sha. Most of them

Some guys no fit even tink am sef na only sick person go finger im own offspring, tufiakua!!!