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Timoleon:
Tell that to the many innocent people in prisons all over the world.

[color=indigo]I hope you know that God never abandons those who trust in Him but suffer unjustly (the bible says if one should suffer they should suffer as those who are being persecuted, not as those who deserve the punishment). He is always there on their matter even when it doesn't appear so and as a judge he will never acquit those who prey on His people unless they repent and make restitutions...guaranteed.[/color]

[color=indigo]live with a clean slate so that if you are falsely accused God will be your advocate and judge in one.[/color]

[color=indigo]the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard syndrome. so many things have gone down in that marriage that it may just be blind judgment to blame the woman the way the man was ignorantly judged at the hospital. I advocate they go their separate ways to avoid the situation where one of them ends up killing the other. more puzzling is why they are still together despite their marital incompatibility. really puzzling.

Op, be very careful when officiating as peacemaker in a violent display between people. many have been pushed to their early graves doing just that. officiate from a safe distance if you can.[/color]

angelfallz:
Your first paragraph. Just like the same way Russia blew up their own pipeline right?

Your second paragraph. FYI People died in the Crimea bridge bombing.

[color=indigo]granted, there was casualty recorded at the Crimean bridge bombing but if you think that Putin will not play dirty all in a bid to unleash wanton destruction of lives and property on Ukraine then you had better think again. Putin is ready to do anything to justify his aggression against Ukraine including destroying key facilities that serve him the needed excuse to invade Ukraine.[/color]

angelfallz:
The same world did not react when Ukraine bombed the Crimea bridge. Hypocrites everywhere

[color=indigo]How did you know Ukraine did that when they have not taken responsibility? For all we know, Putin may have had it blown up as an excuse to terrorise Ukraine.

Secondly, even if Ukraine destroyed the bridge does that equate to the callous destruction of human lives?[/color]

[color=indigo]did anyone notice the cautious and non-condemning statements from the Foreign Ministries of India and China?[/color]

Kobojunkie:
1. Did the writers of the books of Hebrew or the book of Acts tell you that their claims were directly from God to Jesus Christ followers that you would assume them so?

A. The writer of the letter to the Hebrews for instance, wrote to address an audience of primarily Jewish Christians advising them not to avoid the holy assembly(holy holidays) God had commanded of the people of Israel in His Law, an example of which you can read in the passage below.....
.... you are not a Jew so why would you claim the above to be equivalent to a gathering of believers when it is meant instead for the children of Israel?
B. The writer of acts wrote of what the Christian believers who were all of them followers of Jesus Christ did during their time of waiting in Jerusalem, as commanded by Jesus Christ in Luke 24 vs 49
As you are clearly told above, these people abandoned everything they had, sold all their properties, and gave it all away to those in need according to Jesus Christ commandments, and gathered together, probably woke, ate, drank, pooped, and slept in the same place. Is that the model that is your church today?

Or are your churches in Jerusalem where Jesus Christ asked all of the believers written of above to wait until they received power?

2. Which Jesus Christ gave what five-fold gift to your churches?

The same Jesus Christ who made it abundantly clear in His Gospels that everyone in His flock is equal, and He alone is Teacher, Master, Leader/Authority, Head, Shepherd, Helper, etc. over each and every one of them?
The same Jesus Christ who warned that none of His own can serve more than one Master - teacher, authority, Shepherd, Helper, Head - in the Kingdom of God.

3. The Word "Church" is a word used to regard a collection of people or a group that share a common characteristic, in this case, a belief in Jesus Christ. For instance, the collection of believers who reside in the state of Lagos can be referred to collectively as the "Church of Lagos". It in no way suggests your church buildings instead, it points to those unrelated to your church buildings. So, when in Revelations, John wrote of Jesus addressing churches in several towns, John didn't refer to what are your church groups of today but instead to all the believers in those particular towns, regardless of where they were, even those in remote locations in the mentioned locations.

4. As I already mentioned several times now, even your Mary Baxter's so-called revelations, fall short when help up against what you call the "light of the Word of God", which I am guessing is soundbite for the teachings of Jesus Christ, the one from whom all revelations are in fact supposed to flow out from, this since Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that the Holy Spirit(the Spirit of Truth) will only take from that which is in line with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ to give to His followers.

I, a follower of Jesus Christ, condemn her claims because they fall short when held up against the very teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Truth.

5. Jesus Christ did in fact directly teach that no one would be sent back from the dead to warn the living of eternal damnation when He revealed that no one would be ushered into either Heaven or Hell until after His second coming, and the final judgment. He made this severally clear in His teachings, so I am not certain why you pretend this ain't true.
Over 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ informed His disciples that He would need to come back to then take them to His father's house which He had prepared for them. Surely, there is a clear indication that no man, not even His very disciples has been granted access to Heaven as they instead sleep in their graves, like everyone else waiting for His return - John 5 vs 19 - 29. In Matthew 25 vs 31- 46, Jesus Christ clearly describes what is to be expected at the last judgment by all who are of the Kingdom of God - the sheep and the goats - and only after each group is judged will the reward be granted.
So, how can anyone of these claimants have visited and found already judged souls in either Heaven or Hell when Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear via His many teachings that the gates will not be opened to humans until after His return and final judgment?

As I said in my previous post, the question here really is do you believe Jesus Christ at all, or is your belief instead vested in the accounts of men which clearly contradict Jesus Christ?

By the way, when exactly did Paul die and then come back to life and give these accounts that you claim?

[color=indigo]I would have gladly responded to all your statements, but what stands out is that you are set in your ways. For example, the Gospel was not directed to the Jews only but to also the gentiles (us). That means whatever is preached about Christ and God, barring the Law is also addressed to the gentiles. This (and many more) is the reason I won't even attempt to address all your statements because you want to be blind to the truth, not that you have an open heart to the truth. Just imagine the statement you made (about Christ) denying the five-fold ministry gifts He gave to men is a clear indication you are not ready to see the truth or search for it. [/color]

Jen96:
Today God delivered me from marine by himself. This is how it happened. In the marine kingdom we are two categories of people (The initiates and the non initiates) The initiates are the top rank ppl who have accepted it, and we the non initiates have the spirit but have refused it. They force us all to come whether you take it or not. But we the non initiates are punished in every meeting. Atimes they put a snake on your head to crawl, till the end of meeting. I mean crawling your brain fast fast. Very painful.

So I was asking someone in true life first, how do they trace us? Cos they don't call u, they meet u. U can't hide.Theñ the Holy spirit told me how to get rid of what they use to trace me n d things that r not wth me I should use the mercy n blood of Jesus.

In true life , I did it, then I slept . They came to call me for the first meeting, they ere surprised they couldn't find me cos they trace all. God told me that I shouldn't worry, I am hidden with Christ in him ( I was afraid cos of d beatings n punishment u feel in real life if u avoid initiations)

D second meetin is 3 am. it's compulsory. I was already almost crying that thy will punish me for d both cos am not ready fo initiation ( d first n second). I was scared. Imagine dt snake punishment.i called on God n he answered. Told him how shocked dy couldn't trace me .

For d 3am meeting it's very compulsory. This one they will call you o. So I wanted to call any of my pastors to pray for me.the Holy spirit told me not to put on my phone cos as now I v cut all links with them. But dey produce phones in d water too so their tech is advanced so they can trace me . that calling almost everyone must go. I jst started crying to God n worship till 4 . They ere proving difficult I called on God n he answered. Then they ere angry and God delivered me from them himself.

God told me Satan has always tried taking everything he loves.

Cc @mynd44 @seun @lalastiscala

[color=indigo]I'm happy for you. Resist the enemy by being immovable in the faith and he will flee. Jesus has set you free, and you are free indeed. We overcome him (the enemy) by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of our testimonies.
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Kobojunkie:
A logical being would take a step back to ensure that he only adopts only that which is of value to his Kingdom of God mission .

1. Jesus Christ never commanded your churches nor your attendance of them to begin with. So a logical conclusion would be that only false prophets and false teachers would elevate ideas that are not of God using God's name..

2. Considering the "good and righteous" God warned that many will come peddling lies in His name, I think there is a none issue there.

3. A logical mind would consider the truth of what He or she reads even in the bibke since after all they are books from ancient Hebrew scrolls and so may contain lots as well.

4. It is indeed because the enemy's seeds are planted right in the same field as the seeds of God that you ought to carefully examine the Truth of God making sure to throw out that does not fit with His Truth.

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Jesus Christ clearly made clear by way of the Parable and teachings that no one will be sent back from the dead to warn the living - Luke 16 vs 19 - 31. Also Jesus Christ made it clear that not until after He returns and judges the world will we know for sure who has a part in Heaven and in Hall - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 & Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 - not before then.

So the question here really is do you believe Jesus Christ at all, or is your belief instead vested in the accounts of men which clearly contradict Jesus Christ.

[color=indigo]To begin with, you said God never commanded the gathering of believers. Are you selectively ignorant to Hebrews 10:25 and Acts 2:42 among others? Many times, God instructed His followers how to live which can be seen as both a command and advice. Tell me, why did Jesus give the five-fold gifts of the church to men making some Apostles, some Prophets, some Evangelists, some Pastors, and some Teachers if the gathering of believers is of no consequence? Which churches was Jesus referring to in the book of Revelations? If He did not command or instruct the gathering of the believers then why was He commending the churches and warning some of them so that they do not lose their salvation?

In your third statement, I should let you know that the Bible is the standard for every revelation given by God to man by which we can separate what is true from what is false. The revelation shared by Mary Kathryn Baxter should be held up to the light of the Word of God and judged by it if it is scriptural. If it passes the test, then you condemning it is being in enmity with God.

My reply to your third statement simultaneously covers your fourth statement. If otherwise then I ask how you determine the Truth of God to determine what doesn't fit with the Truth.

The Bible never opined by directly or otherwise that God would never raise the dead. Jesus raised the dead, the Apostle Paul by the power of God raised the dead. He himself died and was brought back to life and he shared what he saw during the time he died. Many many people have been known to be clinically dead and returned to life defying medical science who shared the reality of the afterlife like the Apostle Paul did. You have deliberately misinterpreted that passage to suit the error of your thinking. [/color]

LilMissFavvy:
I stopped reading stuffs like this because the last one I read from a particular sister, she woke up one day to confess that the entire story was false. Too many demented people, too many liars'.....

I rather hold unto my God to give me directions on things before I accept them.

[color=indigo]I understand your sentiment. People like Alex Malarkey come to mind. However, do you stop going to church because there are false pastors? Do you stop believing in a good and righteous God because some people use His name as an excuse to commit evil? Do you stop reading the Bible because some so-called ancient Hebrew scrolls that contradict the Word of God were discovered?

Even Christ gave a parable which likened heaven to a situation where a man sowed good seeds and while men slept the enemy planted weed among the good seeds.[/color]

GavelSlam:
We don't know the capacity of the boat.

[color=indigo]very true, but the fact that it capsized may underscore the negligence of the boat operator in the aspect of ignoring the capacity of the boat. overweight of passengers must have caused the boat to tilt over.[/color]

[color=indigo]a boat carrying 85 persons. this is beyond ridiculous. many deaths in Nigeria are easily avoidable...so unnecessary. this happens over and over again because the law has been sleeping thanks to our lullaby politicians and government heads.

then again, my heart breaks at the rate at which people die in Nigeria. what bothers me more is whether this people died prepared for eternity because eternity is the real life, not our earthly years here.[/color]

LordReed:
LoLz. All this just cos someone says he is beginning to doubt the existence of a god? And what of us who are atheists and still thriving well, why body no tell us? Bwahahahahaha!

[color=indigo]LordReed, the import of your statement shows that you think that the plagues of Egypt will strike you for not believing in Christ. Nothing can be further from the truth. So many unbelievers and believers thrive successfully because God makes His sun shine on the just and the unjust but the difference between both of them is especially revealed when they die physically.

You don't believe in the judgment. Why should you when there is 'no proof of the afterlife'? The wisdom of God always lies in these facts: the just shall live by faith, and without faith it is impossible to please God. This runs counter to the need for proof to believe in the unseen world that lies beyond this physical dimension.

God will not change His Word because some people need physical verification of His reality. There is no proof but the works of God and believers who will stand as witness against you and other sinners in the Great White Throne judgment.

God upholds faith, not proof. Believers and the works of God are all the proof this world will ever get of the reality of the existence of God and eternity.[/color]

Ajay7411:
I agree with you 100%, since childhood... My parents forced Christianity down my throat but now, I don't see the need to continue on that path.

I do things with a pure heart as you described too.

[color=indigo]it may sound uncaring but I assure you it is the truth. ...the solid foundation of the LORD stands sure having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His"

You are an atheist to begin with, not you're slowly becoming an atheist.[/color]

[color=indigo]Feminist35, there is something else I feel led to tell you and every girl out there. God is a God of abundance. His abundance includes children, a good husband or wife, marital fulfilment, finances...etc. Time is irrelevant to God when He wants to bless you with His abundance if you seek them. A day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day in the sight of God. Even if you are 60 or 70 years old God can make you leap with the joy of children if you dare to believe Him.

My dear, at 35 you are still very very young and fertile and desirable. Mean business with God. Let Him see your seriousness of faith in seeking Him then all other things shall be added. Personally, as a man I only have desires for ladies above 30 years. So, there are men out there like me who are attracted to only 30 yrs and 30-something yrs ladies. Ignore people who say otherwise.[/color]

[color=indigo]Feminist35, you are very beautiful and lovely just as you are because you are fearfully and wonderfully made. The only thing I will advice you to do is to stop looking for love in the wrong places. Seek God first because God has that gentleman for you of your dreams somewhere and only He can connect the both of you. God is also a matchmaker.

Let go of your bitterness towards the men who have done you wrong and forgive them including the ones on this thread insulting you so as to allow God work His miracles in your life.

I say this to all ladies (and men, too)...it is okay to make mistakes. it is okay to be human. All you need is for God to turn your mistakes into miracles because that is one of the things He does for everyone who calls on His name.

Remember, you are beautiful and comely. You have so much treasures in you that it takes only one who has an eye for beauty, who sees you the way God sees you to see how beautiful you are.

Lastly, please get the book The Fourth Dimension by pastor David Yonggi Cho (he has gone to be with the Lord in eternity). That book is my favourite. Stay blessed.[/color]

Ken4Christ:
If trying to persuade people of the reality of heaven and hell is not necessarily, our Lord Jesus wouldn't have bothered to give some of his servants special revelation on it and ask them to go and share their testimonies.

We are all given grace for different assignments on earth. This is one of the assignment God has given to me. Even if those you are talking to do not agree, you are sending messages to countless hundreds who might be reading without making comments.

So, just let me do what I am doing. Someone is being educated by it.

[color=indigo]has argument ever led anyone to Christ? Jesus set an example for us to follow. He did not argue with anyone...none of the Apostles did. They simply explained their reasons for believing in Christ.

Please read 2 Timothy 2:23 and Titus 3:9.

If you truly love these people and want to see them saved, then travail for their souls in prayer. That will do more good than unprofitable argument for which many have left this nairaland religion section. I hope you understand but if you feel you are called to argue with them...then go ahead. [/color]

[color=indigo]We are constantly walking on a thin edge of life daily...like tightrope walkers. Even extreme delicate skill of balance is not enough to help anyone survive unforeseen circumstances — time and chance happens to all.

If people knew how extremely dangerous it is to be a whole minute without Christ they will not waste a moment to hide their lives in Christ by surrendering to His Lordship over their lives.

We may blame the past or present governor or president or we may blame the truck and its driver but the truth remains that 18 people have unexpectedly lost their lives and are standing in judgment before God, and their only escape from hell is whether they accepted Christ before they died. Sighs. I just wish people can understand the danger of one more second outside Christ.....because death comes in an unexpected second.

We may say that their souls should rest in peace but the truth is that if their names are not found in the Book of life peace is forever far from their souls much less rest. Blessed are the ones among them who died in Christ because their souls can truly rest in peace.

Ignore the unbelievers and mockers who discredit the truth of the Gospel. You might die before them while they may later accept Christ. Don't be cheated of your inheritance in Christ. Heaven is a very very very personal race. Ignore others and run your race. Do your soul the greatest favour by escaping from hell while on earth by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour NOW, not the next minute or hour or day....Now is the acceptable time...of salvation (2 Corinthians 6:2).[/color]

[color=indigo]not a judge but you guys should patch things up. however, if that is not possible and you are irredemably incompatible please seek peaceful separation (not divorce). I won't cause a crack in your home by advising you to seek divorce. however, with separation, there is a ray of hope that you will both grow to understand and love each other better. in this case, the wife is the one who should make the major steps in restoring her home.

if she truly did those things Ontarioache accused her of then she has a lot of mending and apologising to do and without delay. none of the parties should be condemned because challenges happen to every marriage.[/color]

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what you're saying because Christ doesn't preach nonsense, so go and get yourself enlightened first before coming to argue what God said about sin and death!

[color=indigo]God is not an author of confusion. His language was and is clear as daylight concerning the reality of a literal hell and heaven. you can't distort the truth by sweeping it under the rug or by giving it a different meaning. truth is very stubborn you will come to find eventually. I am not one to argue. the truth does the argument and it always wins.[/color]

MaxInDHouse:
Are you a Bible student or churchgoer?

[color=indigo]I am a follower of Christ.[/color]

Ken4Christ:
What about instances he said, fire, furnace or fire and Everlasting fire?

[color=indigo]while I agree with the things you have said I should let you know that true preaching is not engaging in argument with unbelievers. it is enough that they have heard the Gospel once. your job is done. whatever they do with the Gospel is now left to the Holy Spirit to convict them of their sins or error of their beliefs and repent. we are not called to convince people of the reality of heaven and hell. we are only called to spread the truth which you have done. the argument is so unnecessary...biblically speaking.[/color]

MaxInDHouse:
Sodom and Gomorrah has been destroyed for more than 4,000 years now but when the name of those cities are mentioned everyone remembers how God rained fire from heaven to consume the cities as if the rain of fire is still falling. That's what torment forever and ever symbolises!

[color=indigo]if this is not deliberate and mindless distortion of the scriptures I don't know what else to call it.[/color]

Psych412:
this is someone son, brother, lover been butchered like a cow....

[color=indigo]those who he killed and butchered like festive season sacrifice are they not someone's son, brother, lover, breadwinner? don't you know that cultists have one primary purpose — to kill and be killed. they recruit people to increase their spate of killing. a cultist is first of all a killer before any other thing. even blood brothers in rival cults seek each other out to kill the other. just imagine that. this is the reason why God has made them to kill each other and drink each other's blood to protect you (the law abiding non-cultist).[/color]

Psych412:
my God...tears just came out of my eyes

[color=indigo]let me get this....you are crying over someone who must have killed dozens and dozens of people and probably in like manner?[/color]

[color=indigo]Look at guys forming judges over the decisions and mistakes many girls made in their twenties. Michelle70 is right about many girls being the victims of circumstances but self-appointed judges think otherwise that they should be condemned for living. Bunch of hypocrites. As if you are any better than the girls.

Guess who we find in the news for cultism, armed robbery, arson, love scam, money rituals, 419, drug deals, touting, political assassination, and the likes.....yeah, your guess is right — men.

Men deceive innocent girls, break their hearts and justify their evil by promoting the notion that men are polygamous in nature and still have the effrontery to ridicule them for not being married before their 30s. Evil generation. Bunch of snakes. Keep blaming girls for your woes. Their God will not leave them unfulfilled because you are not their Creator. Nonsense.

Michelle70, don't waste your breath on people who are set in their deluded ways. Imagine grown men thinking the opposite sex is their problem in this life...except most of these commenters are toddlers with the privilege of keyboard and the internet.[/color]

Kobojunkie:
The vast majority of what is suggested as Christianity today is instead Churchianism, a religion built on the very doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were lies that were against God's Truth .I.e. AntiChrist in nature. And so since 99.999999% of those who poll as Christians subscribe to churchianity hold to these doctrines, it follows that...

[color=indigo]half-truths are the same as lies. the numbers are still weird.[/color]

Kobojunkie:
You would first need to explain what you mean by the statement in bold.

Why do you consider the method of verification suggested by Jesus Christ illogical?

[color=indigo]first, explain the method of verification by Jesus Christ that is logical.[/color]

Kobojunkie:
Well, if we are to agree that that which is written is truth, then 99.9999% of Christians out there believe in lies, right? This since they believe instead in the doctrines and traditions of men, ideas born of the special interpretations/delusions of men.

[color=indigo]before anything, how did you come up with your statistics? link(s) needed.[/color]

Kobojunkie:
So, there really isn't any real truth to this just unsubstantiated claims .i.e. lies?

[color=indigo]salvation by faith in Christ is not substantiated by any logical method of verification but does that make it a lie?[/color]

Kobojunkie:
Whose truth is it?

[color=indigo]the truth - is. it has no company logo on it.[/color]