Address the OP. DO u believe Muhammad {{SBUH}} rode on winged horse? Who withness this event? Why did it has to be night dream not day time? Is ur allah not capable of proving anything with muhammed {{SBUH}}? Why is he always coming to tell lies that he dreamt?
Empiree: Sorry buddy, i didnt just find out recently. Besides, i have no reason to answer any of your questions. You have longed here but never agreed to anything we discussed or argued here in months. So whats the point trying to convince you otherwise. To me its a waste of my precious time. Do what Atheists do best man.
Its only because you cant prove it. You always waste your time in other subjects why not continue? Abi u think say you don ever prove anything right about Muhammad (SBUH)? The next thing you will do in order to stop this thread to be seen by public is call ur muslim MOD to move it to islamic S. Its not new na..
mahdino: [][/b]I wellcome all of u to this page with the greetings of the prophets Assalamu Alaikum (may peace and blessing of Allah (God) be upon all of u. Before I start talking i will like u to quess in world history who said the following
"for those my enemies who do not want me to rule over them bring them here and kill them". It will take a genius for one to get the ans especially among the christian faith. If I list three names prophet Moses(as), Carl Max or Muhammad(saw). It will suprise u to tell u that Jesus christ utter those words because u hardly read your bible with free mind and reasoning,. Jesus said it in the new testament, the gospel according to matthew. Do u remember when he was riding on a donkey to Jerusalem.
Going into the topic crucifixion is to hang a man to death on a cross. But what if u hang a man on the cross and he didn't die? I want u to know that it is the Romans that started the believe in a son of their god that die for their sins, they worship the sun god. And its important for us to know that before Jesus christ their use to be salvation through the prophets of God of that time e.g at the time of Moses his people wanted to worship the golden calf, he has to call them to the right way in other words he was the way the truth and the live no one could reach God but through him, at the time of David he was the way, at the time of Abraham he was the way now this is the time of Mohammad as said by Jesus in the gospel of John 16:12-14 Jesus told his diciples that he will be betrayed but never did he say he will be kill, so when the Jews were looking for him to kill, he went to the garden with his diciples and told them wait at the gate, he went further and fall on his face and prayed to God to take away the cup from him, meaning to save him from death and an angel came to asure him that god has answer his prayers. Yes in Hebrew chapter 7 God answered his prayers. Why do we take all that is said without pondering?
Be ready to take the straight point. In the book of matthew 12:38-40 Jesus prophesied that he will not be killed. When the Jews came to ask for a sign, they wanted him to walk on water, raise the dead,or perform a miracle but he put all his eggs in one basket. He said I will only give u a miracle like that of Jonah as Jonah was alive for three days and three nights so shall me be. Today over 2 billion christians of the world said that Jesus was dead for three days and even if it is a trillion population of christian said he was dead, the words of Jesus is more superior and more to believe than the billions of christians. The Quran said that "they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it was made to appear to them so, but those who dispute about the matter are ful of doubts, for certainly they killed him not."
For salvation follow the master Jesus not Paul, Jesus said in matt. 5:17-20 going to heaven is only possible when u keep the laws and the commandements, when u keep the laws and the commandements u can't help but to be a muslim. Thank you
◄ Galatians 1:8 ► But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!
Just as the Devil deceived Eve into believing what is false in Genesis 3:1-6, they will also deceive people into believing what is also false about Jesus. How will they corrupt people's mind?
they will preach "another Jesus" who is different from the "true Jesus" that was preached by the Apostles.
PLEASE ADRESSE THE OP. The bible has revealed your evil plans to turn Christians away from Christ. We are very vigilant.
parisbookaddict: So u believe mohammed mounted a flying donkey.... the muslim brain is one sad thing..remember he was the only withness.. perhaps he was high on hashish
parisbookaddict: Hilarious. I only called u ignorant because u are. It Isn't ad hominem. STop looking for an excuse. U on the other hand started with a tu touque fallacies to the questions I asked.
Thanks, it means a lot coming from an Islamist such as urself. I have never claimed to be a bible scholar. I have mentioned it to u and ur like before. Show me where I have claimed it and I will deactivate my account immediately. I learn every day unlike u muslims who think the quran is the only book what learning from.
Speaking of gullible, I guess u Mr muslim are not gullible since u believe a paedophile lair bigot misogynist flying donkey riding rapist is a prophet..
I think an atheist here posted the verse already. I just read it, it was a bit funny really. Especially since it is clearly not allegorical. Dude, this talking donkey has really shaken my faith about the wonderful, beautiful teachings of Our lord Jesus Christ..not.
I do. Its clear that its allegorical for how disobedience and sin entered the world. Islam has its own creation myth borrowed from apocryphal books.
Like I said earlier it isn't allegorical. I will study it more and create a topic addressing it.
More insults. From the devout muslim. Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today
Forget him. Just let him address the OP. You have proved you are not like them who lie in all cost to defend a copy and rewrite prophet.
More insults. From the devout muslim. Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today
johnydon22: Both the Quran and the bible are derived from the same jewish background and theme.. Both hoards many jewish myths and legends and both are equally full of bullshiiiit..
Its called the desert triology..
Part1 is the jewish scriptures Tenarks ...part 2 is the bible and 3 is the Quran. . . . All are same thing and their bullshiits are directly proportional to each other...
Part 3 should be n°1 in your list since muslims claim Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses and Jesus were Muslims. Part 1 and two never existed according to the coran. Yet muslim cant validate thier prophet without looking into these two parts.. (1&2)
dalaman: . Can you imagine a christian trying to mock a muslim for believing that Mohammed rode on a flying horse when their own bible has talking donkeys, flying chariots, locust with faces of men adorned with iron breastplates and other fictitious nonsense. delusion at its finest.
mahdino: The word "Muhammad" in the Bible (in Original Hebrew)
The name "Muhammad" is written in the Bible in the original Hebrew language.
In the 5th chapter of the Shir haShirim ( שיר השירים ), which is one of the five megilot or Sacred Scrolls that are part of the Hebrew Bible or for short the "Song of Solomon" (also called "Song of Songs". That chapter is giving a prophecy about an individual to come, a mystery man.
Song of Songs 5:15 compares this prophetic mystery man to the land of "Lebanon" which is the land of the Arabs. This implies that the mystery man would be an Arab.
Verse 15 of the NIV Bible says: “His appearance is like Lebanon", so this is an Arabic gentleman (or Arab looking).
Verse 11 says: "his head is as the most fine gold, his locks are wavy, and black as a raven". Verse 10 describes this man as being "radiant and ruddy" which means he was slightly light-skinned with a rosy color. This physical description matches exactly with the authentic Islamic sources. Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747, says Muhammad was slightly light skinned, with a rosy color (and has the same hair as is mentioned in verse 11)
Song of Songs 5:10 says: "My beloved is white and ruddy, pre-eminent above ten thousand." This is a prophecy of Prophet Muhammad as he conquered Mecca. It is a well known historically documented fact that in the year 630 CE Muhammad entered Mecca as the leader of an army of "ten thousand men".
In reading the English translation of Song of Songs 5:16 it finishes the description by saying: "He is altogether lovely" but what most people don't know is that the name of that man was given in the original megilot. Here is the name written in ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse sixteen: מחמד . It is read as : "Mahammad".
English: His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamadd-im”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word Eloh-im.
According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, it is correctly pronounced as "Mahammad".
If you don't believe me, go to these translator links, paste the name מחמד and then translate it into English. You will see that מחמד is translated as "Muhammad".
You can also see and listen to the Song of Songs in its original form, in Hebrew where Muhammad is mentioned by name in the below link (please notice the "im" in Hebrew is a plural of respect):
dalaman: The most annoying part of the whole madness is that you can be killed for openly stating your disbelief in such stories in some parts of the world. If you openly say that you do not believe that Mohammed rode on the back of a horse or that he divided the moon into two and try to falsify the story in places like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or even in some states in Northern Nigeria there are people that will happily kill you.
100% true talk. According to Islam, The truth is to be buried. That Islam for you.
Annunaki: There are absolutely no pictorial depictions of God in Christianity.
You could have ignored him. They should creat another tread if they want to discuss the bible . Just to avoid diverting this thread like some are already doing with @parisbookaddict.
johnydon22: [b] Many of us here are very familiar with flying animals in antiquity or animals depicted to possess wings like birds.
The most popular of these stories is the story of Pegasus the flying Horse of Perseus son of the God Zeus in classical Greek antiquity.
we have all seen the movie depictions and many of us here won't deny having fantasized about riding such animal that has nothing to show that is not anymore than mere mythological fictional work of antiquity.
We also have the winged bulls of Babylonian mythology and then remarkably one so near is the tale of Muhammed (Founder of Islam) riding similar animal.
I am intrigued at this claim of Muhammed riding something similar to a flying horse named Buraq.
Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me. ... The animal's step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's sight.
— Muhammad al-Bukhari , Sahih al-Bukhari
Then he [Gabriel] brought the Buraq, handsome-faced and bridled, a tall, white beast, bigger than the donkey but smaller than the mule. He could place his hooves at the farthest boundary of his gaze. He had long ears. Whenever he faced a mountain his hind legs would extend, and whenever he went downhill his front legs would extend. He had two wings on his thighs which lent strength to his legs.
He bucked when Muhammad came to mount him. The angel Jibril (Gabriel ) put his hand on his mane and said: "Are you not ashamed, O Buraq? By Allah , no-one has ridden you in all creation more dear to Allah than he is." Hearing this he was so ashamed that he sweated until he became soaked, and he stood still so that the Prophet mounted him
According to these narratives God through Gabriel gave Muhammed one of his flying horse-like animals to ride to Jerusalem. . And muhammed was the ever first to ride such.
I find it intriguing that the classical story of Perseus which predates muhammed story by thousands of years. God (zeus) also gave Perseus a flying horse named Pegasus and Perseus became the only person to have ridden such.
These two stories quite similar in their claim of flying horse-like animals being ridden, what fascinates me is that people actually believe Muhammed really rode such an animal even though such has never been substantiated to be anymore than fictious mythical construct.
It reveals the dishonesty in Faith... Someone could believe such unsubstantiated outrageous assertion by faith against all reason.
A Muslim would laugh at anyone who asserts Perseus rode a flying horse but Muhammed rode one? then it is true .. "God is great" …lol.. ..
Imagine the absurdity in such belief. . . If one honestly believe someone rode a flying horse then why cant that person believe Perseus did or the dishonesty in belief stipulates one should cherry pick which myth to believe?
That's why i always say: "If something needs to be believed against reason by faith then there is no reason to believe it at all..."
Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??[/b]
Another tough one....oya muslims. Stop derailing and treat the OP.
madjnr: Plappyville annuaki and parisbookadict I can see you're confuse.... You're diverting away from the real topic of the thread... Which I have address.... And you're conjuring up another false claim.... Let's face the topic of the thread first....
You cannot tag Islam with the bible. First Muhammad denied Jesus death etc. And the bible told us to beware of such religion (islam). Islam preach Isa. Not Jesus of the bible. Same bible u claimed was corrupted you use to tag ur prophet to your favour. Can't u use ur sense? A spoilt food is poisoning. U can't take some part and throw away the other part. Leave our book alone. Its corrupted according to Muhammad (SBUH).
Chigold101: well I don't know if you are married. But I am married. I didn't marry as a virgin though God gave me one as a wife. I never prayed for or asked for it. The point is that I have had many sexual experiences before I got married and from experience, I know that when we talk "dirty" while having sex, it becomes sweeter and more satisfying. I said from my own experience. It is better to talk dirty with your wife and get maximum satisfaction than to claim holiness while making love and die of lusting after another man or woman
If you talk dirty only when you make love then something is wrong. Or do you talk rough/dirty outside your bed too? well, am married too. I don't use dirty words when in bed with my husband. Those trash said by the OP are not worth it.
truthman2012: Satan and demons are knowledgeable beings and they are undying. They were witnesses to the creation of man and the earth. So nothing is secret to them especially on how things operate in the universe.
Therefore, allahh knowing and revealing what you call miracles of the quran, it is no big deal. All demons know them too.
But what surprises me is that with all the miracles claimed for the quran, there is no single miracle of healing the sick. Even when Muhammad was sick, the quran (which you claim is a miracle) was recited on him but he was not healed, he died.[size=16pt] Where is the miracle of the quran?[/size]
You sabin handle these abo.kis dem no be small....
Muhammad (Tbuh) curse is be falling muslims nations. Allah can't even save them. Breaking news Earthquake in Afghan and Pakist. How many Muslims have died miserably recently? Soudi syrian afghan pakinsthe ecetetc..where is alla.h
Chigold101: There is nothing wrong in it. Sex between husband and wife should be void of inhibition. They should be free to explore every thing to have maximum satisfaction. You should also know that such words build more sexual power and drive than just lying down like a log of wood or even whinnying her body.
So I don't see anything wrong in it. At least the Bible didn't say anything about such actions during sex with a wife or husband
Agreed with the bold. But Don't you think our tongues should have control when it has to do with talking? Those words are raw and ugly. ..
I think these are not common words to use for responsible couple how much more a christian woman. Of a truth, How many women here will agree ever vomited this kind of words? Even if some pretend to use it just to deceive thier partner. It cannot be true. It's like our daily life. We don't use rude/dirty language during conversion. I think is same. The OP is a bit exaggerating. ..
1 Thessalonians 4:2-4 For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable
As long as Everybody’s Different:
u must not be afraid to talk with your spouse about ur sexual preferences and anything regarding marriage and the bedroom. Ve respect for one another. u can’t force someone to do somethin they don’t want to do. Marriage work out when respect is applied.
Waoh, Christian sex life is amazing! Sex within marriage is a blessing from God and a married couple are free to do any sex position they want, whether you want to do missionary or something else. The fact that The bible is silent about the position means its not offending to God. Sex within marriage is God’s gift to us so u’re free to do whatever between the two of u only. We are not to ve threesomes and sex with multiple people nor are we allowed to bring pornography in the bedroom. God blessed the union. Enjoy your marriage.
Song of Solomon 4:3-5 Your lips are like scarlet ribbon; your mouth is inviting. Your cheeks are like rosy pomegranates behind your veil. Your neck is as beautiful as the tower of David, jeweled with the shields of a thousand heroes. Your breasts are like two fawns, twin fawns of a gazelle grazing among the lilies.
Look at the discription here... true love has no limit in expression of love. If you express it. You should as well put it in practical. ..
Christianity Etc › Re: Muhammed And The Flying Horse by plappville(f): 2:22pm On Oct 29, 2015
