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This Video is Waooh! I am very impressed viewing it. But i would love to get those books he mentioned.
I hold my peace until i get more source to back up his interpretations.
The truth is that, all the verses he read did not mentioned the word RAPTURE.
God wont allow us to perish by men traditions. All doctrine should base only from the bible.

Thank for the video.

I am with you, U should take your time and go through my posts in Nl, they speak for themselves. The bible speaks for itself, so no offence.

above all that you wrote, i will only comment on your ignorance, U ve been brainwashed by a self claimed Prophet. What the Bible teaches about Jesus Muhammed denied them and formed his own tales to distroy Christianity. He could have succided if he has gotten the change to burn all bible, but Sorry, the divine word of God stands, and no man can distroy it phisical or spiritual.

BY THE WAY, MUSLIMS DON'T BELIEVE JESUS(AS) WAS CRUCIFIED AS ALLAH DID SEND THE ANGELS TO RESCUE HIM AS ALLAH STATED IN THE QURAN:-

Where in The bible or other historic book was it RECODED that Jesus was not crucified apart from the Quran? If u dont believe, it is because u have put your mind in the dark. The words of Christ plainly pronounced his death and resurrection yet Muhammed denied everything. This is the greatest mistake he ever did in the Quran.

1 Peter 2:21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
Jesus was showed Love, Peace, He forgave sinners He never condemned anyone to death by actions . Did Muhammed followed Christ Steps? NO.

Jesus said "I am the door; if any one enters by me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."(RSV)

Jesus answered "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

"Salvation is found in no one else, (only Jesus Christ) for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

", but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."



He plainly stated in the verses you are seeing that, He is the only way, in which any man can see God. So the coming of any other Prophet like Muhammed, Mormon and others are not needed. The only way, they could try to gain souls, is to condemn that the Bible is corrupted, and some fellows like you believed thier revelations are true. As you believe in Muhammed , so do Mormons follwers Believed in him. They are all the false prophets Jesus told us about. None is exception.

you email is not valid, u put the @before, i guess its a mistake?

Thank you, i will send u an email straight away.

Judek2:
There is no greater anti-Christ than Mohammad.
Thank God the Bible warned us before hand.

Yes, the root of Islam correspond to what the Revelation of Christ discribed him.

LagosShia:
please point out the contradiction.

@Frosbel had done that, didn't you see it urself? u were confuesd and end up in saying otherwise.

LagosShia:
from @plappville: Mind you, your prophet warned you to respect the scriptures, he never said they were tails, but he said they were divine from Allah. So u must be disobeying Muhammed with your insults to the bible Grin
I will join u soon, my HD got broken down, i hate phone typing.
See your Quran revealing for the bible,

Respons from @LagosShia: there is no where in the Quran we are told that the bible is a revealed book by Allah.

From @plappville: "Say (o Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord" (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 136).

from @lagosShia:
that which the prophets received! not the bible compiled by fallible men and councils that voted on what to add and what to remove.which book to accept as "inspired" and which to reject!

"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it is in the Torah" (Surah 5, Al-Ma'idah, The Table Spread: 44, 46).

From @lagosShiua: is bible and torah the same?

From @plappville: "Lo! We inspire thee as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms" (Surah 4, Al-Nisa, Women: 163).

From @lagosShia: and what a shame that what is recorded of the revelations given by God are recorded with what is not revealed by God,with immorality,contradictions and tales!!!

Ve you not agreed with the above that the bible is given by God? pretend in concluding that it has some undivine words, So how can @LagosShia and the entire Muslims know that which is divine and that which is not divine in the bible? confussion in the air!

You are true about the Sunday worship is a catholic tradition worship day that all churches now partake in.
I ve read an article on this before, it baffols me though. I will do more research on this.

@East, taking the mark is the great mistake anyone should do. No going back once recieved it.
That is why its best to be in the Rapture barge. Watch and pray without season. May God strenghten us Amen.

Thank you Jude2k for ur presentations. It gives a correction of this frequent use of this verse by Muslims fellows.
John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; "I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me". LagosShia would ve been the happiest if the veres reads the contrary. " by myself i can do everything" @lagosShia, Jesus said he does everything with His Father. There is nothing he has done without God doing same. When God is doing it, Jesus is doing it at sametime. Both work together, Jesus does not bycut God neither does God bycut Jesus. "I and My Father" What is hard for u to here?

It should be surprising, if they are blessing allah for hached human head, this is because the messenger of allah
Did thesame. The three godesses are grouped as one known as allah is a blood socking. The Jews on their own has to answer question from their God, their ignorace is in increase!!

Theres no limitation. The same spirit that work in young men also work in old men.

1 Corinthians 12:7
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

U are right broda.

@Op, I must strongly advise u to tell your sister and fast and pray against it. Make urself pure and talk to God. Its a bad dream so all u need do in your prayer is binding it. Read more of the bible and stop been frightened. Fear can bring defeat. U must be bold when binding the Devil. God will deliver your sister because, Jesus rose and Defeated the Grave. So your sister will live in Jesus name. I will put her in prayers too.

I must tell u that, u do not need anyone to discover your Gift for u. I ve never share my experience on this particular subject u
created here or else where before. But i am also a Dream come through fellow.
I started when i wasnt even born again. The first time i told my dream to my mum about the death of her Father, she told me
its only a dream, that nothing will happen. She went to her normal duties and i went to School, but that same day, someone came from Village to inform my mum that her Mothers dead very early morning that day by Accident.
All she was saying was, my daughter dreamt my dad was dead so it wAs my mum.
Since then she takes my dreams for serious. When i call her that i dream, she always panic. But the event is not always  the one in my dream, but some one else. I ve had several dreams that happened in real. When i became born again i prayed to God, to help me understand my dreams. I also share it with my pastor, he gave me good advise.
Since then, when i dream about something and is bad, i make sure i pray against it. And tell someone, even if the event will still take place, because of the prayer, it will turn the way round. Few months back i drem one of my siblin was arrested by Police and depoted, in real sense, i said its impossible because only illegal imigrants can face deportaion. I didnt believed my eyes when i was told my good friend was arrested for a crime wort it. last three weeks it was my brother. this time it happen to him as exactly as i dreamt it. I felt sad becos i couldnt reach him, but i seriously prayed against it. But then, i told the dream to a siblin. Hoping she will reveal it to him. Unfortunatelly, last week she told me the dream has manifested. 

The point here is thT, when u dream about someone for example, and if the person is not living a life pleasing to God, and will even doubt your dream. even if u pray to rebuke that dream God will not respond. That is why it is important to always make sure u are able to inform the person so he accept to do the prayer with u. If he refuses, u ve done your part. Still pray to God though.

I believe u are a dreamer. tell God to use u to his glory. Its hard to tell bad dreams to people, but worse keeping it to oneself.

After a few years, Umm Ayman again became widow. [b]Muhammad had predicted that Zaid will be killed soon [/b]in so and so war. So eventually Muhammad sends his “slave son” (After Muhammad married the wife of his son, Zaid again became his slave from son) and Zaid was killed in the battle of Mutaa, [b]as “predicted” by Muhammad [/b]and her son Ayman was  also killed earlier in the battle of Hunayn. So, Umm Ayman had nowhere to go but to return to Muhammad’s house again.

So whAt happened to the "prediction" spirit when he ate the poison that puts him to death?
The were on vacation i surposed?

LagosShia:
i dont know why a fool would use the "666" christian fairytale to judge muslims with it.

here is what "666" stands for:

is the book of revelation not made up of fantasies? [b][/b]let us see what academics and intellectuals have said about the book of revelation itself:

Thomas Jefferson [b]:"merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."
Friedrich Engels :"primarily a political and anti-Roman work"

George Bernard Shaw :"a peculiar record of the visions of a drug addict"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Criticism

Mind you, ur prophet warned you to respect the scriptures, he never said they were tails, but he said they were divine from Allah. So u must be disobeying Muhammed with ur insults to the bible
I will join u soon, my HD got broken down, i hate phone typing.
See ur Quran revealing for the bible,

"Say (o Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord" (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 136).

"Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it is in the Torah" (Surah 5, Al-Ma'idah, The Table Spread: 44, 46).

"Lo! We inspire thee as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms" (Surah 4, Al-Nisa, Women: 163).

Thank i appreciate, as for the finance, its not a problem, i suposed u are talking about the rent etc.
If not, if i am to sell them to avoid stress as i wont be around to controy a cyber cafe. Do u ve ideal of how i can sell them? How, companies or individuals? Thank You.

Islam Koran 666

THE FALSE PROPHET - DEN FALSKE PROFETEN - EL FALSO PROFITA - LE FAUX PROPHETE - DER FALSCHE PROPHET -
ISLAM REVIEWED  - TENTANG ISLAM - EN REVURDERING AV ISLAM - UNA REVISION DEL ISLAM - ISLAM DI AKHIR JAMAN -

YouTube of this subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq9kvfhMWmo

The following links to Islamic sites connect the Quran and it's Messenger, to the number 666.  Here's an example - and another.  Or try a Search - quran 666 or kuran 666.


On the Zola Levitt program, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist now Christian evangelist, said that when he saw the Greek symbol that is translated in the Bible as 666, he immediately read it as the Arabic character “Bismillah” (some spell Bismilla) which means "in the name of Allah."

Here's a seven minute video of Walid Shoebat on 666 at a different venue:

Below (left) are photos of Greek symbols translated in the Bible as 666, from Free Jesus.net:  The gold symbol (bottom and right) is Arabic for "Allah" when turned and mirrored.  Additionally, crossed swords are a symbol for Islam.  So in 666 we may find both "Islam" and "Allah".



If Shoebat's account seems a stretch, even though Arabic was his first language and Islam the religion he was indoctrinated into, consider how this Arabic character is stylized into many different artistic forms.  Consider also how some look for this character in trees, clouds and such, as this search link attests - even in a fish!

For English speaking people on whom the above may be a little lost:



YouTube from another author - note the feedback from former Muslims.  

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There are 6,666 verses in the Koran.  There is at least one sect of Islam (Bahattin Uzunkaya) that considers the number 666 as well as the number 19, to demonstrate the perfection of the Quran and the proof that Mohammed is the prophet of Allah.

In the Muslim's words:  

"The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.
However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666."

"The truth is that This Quran is the 666 , The Book from The Lord of the Universe."

"The First Sura in the Quran, 666, is Praise. This sura is the gift of GOD to us to establish Contact with Him through our daily Contact Prayers. "

"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

This one may make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.

You can search - quran 666 - or try - sura 1 to sura 36 is 666 - How about an Islamic greeting card that has 666 displayed 666 times?

Here is an interesting link.

This 666 connection is, however, just one component of Bible prophecy pointing to the Middle Eastern Islamic empire as being, geographically, the leopard-bear-lion beast of Revelation 13.  The seat of Islam today occupies the same geographical region as the seats of Daniel's successive lion, bear, and leopard kingdom "beasts".

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: [Islamic Empire] for it is the number of a man; [the prophet Mohammed] and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. [666]

", the number of the beast for it is the number of a man , "
"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

 Is this Islamic 666 "miracle" then a warning from God to Christians, Jews, and Muslims, as yet another fulfillment of the related prophecy in the Book of Revelation, now that we find ourselves in this "time of the end"?i

Following is a brief YouTube related to this subject:



Bible: Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Koran (Sura 2:223) your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.

Bible: Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Koran (Sura 8:12) I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them  

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (Surah 9.30)



2 Thessalonians 2:6   And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting
consolation and good hope through grace, 17  Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Visit link for more, http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_koran_666.htm

Not just that the Quran is not complete, but also, its fake. Islam was formed by force.
The Sahih i provided proved it, lols.

You can post bible verse for my re-reading pleasure.
Thanks.

Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.

U will never cease to lie, did the Meccans fought against Muhammed first? They were to settle thing in peace with Muhammed, they even negotiated with him thrught his Uncle, but Muhammed refused. He fought them and that was the outcome of the Meccans sending them away and treaten they shouldnt tempered with thier temple the(kaaba). The verse was for the Meccans.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter,  But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,  If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193). this is the verse that gave order to overshad the Meccans and take total possession of thier temple.

@bashy-demy, are u saying i ve no point by telling you that Muhammeds grave is intact and its for pilgrims to visit in Al-Madina. Why u claim he is like Moses.

Can you provide a proof of Moses and grave found? And how the both were miracleously protected by the Angel of God from been killed? And Muhammed was born, and and had no King that wished to kill him while he was infant. He was only an orphan at age 6 or so, when his mum died. U should make a point as i ve broke down it so u may understand.

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Re: The Mark Of The Beast - If You See It, It’s Too Late.
« #25 on: January 06, 2012, 05:41 PM »
keep making mouth until we reach your door step . . .no joking , nothing is going to STOP the anti-- Christianity movement  . I won't tell u how far we've gone because u won't believe  the only way to convince u is when u see with your eyes clearly that the time isn't far .

I John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world

Jesus said the antichrist is already in the world. No true Christian is doubting it because Christ said so, not because u said so.
But u must know that, in 2 thess 2:7, he made us know that Before he will release the Wicked, that is the "head" He will remove his church first. So u cant even see me how much lease my door by his grace. And he also told us that "greater is he that is in us, than he that is in the world" this is enough for Christian. Not mouth making like u said.

The Angel Gabriel that have been giving him his revelations suddenly could not showed him he was a bout to be poisoned
If not that The quran writer that could ve revealed Muhammed falsehood was kill. U all will not be making empty noises here.
The man could suggest edit in muhammeds revelation, and Muhammed will accept, he then said to himself, a divine revelation cannot be modified, this made he left Islam. Muhammed see him as a treat to Islam he then killed him. What a Prophet like others indeed!

Yes, all the prophets including noah, lut, abraham(as), david, ishmael, ishaq, zakariya, john the baptist, jesus(as), muhammed(saw) were muslims. How can abraham have been a jew or christian, when judaism and christianity only came after Moses and jesus(as). As Allah stated in the quran:-

O people of the Scripture (Jews and christians)! Why do you dispute about Ibrahim (abraham), while the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) were not revealed till after him? Have you then no sense?
(  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #65)

Ibrahim (abraham) was neither a Jew nor a christian, but he was a true Muslim Hanifa (Islamic Monotheism - to worship none but Allah Alone) and he was not of Al-Mushrikun (See V.2:105) .
(  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #67)

So if these people authomatcally became muslims because Muhammed made them to. Then, why did islamic dotrine contradict the bible that Even Jesus used during him days. Jesus always refare back to the old testament. U muslims, are really blind to believe a self claimed prophet. The worse is that, u even compare him with the bible Prophets.
I just pity u. Tell me, how many sick people did Muhammed healed? Why was he tested by poision and he failed?
Didnt u know tha Satan tested Jesus? Job and others? Just to prove if they are of God. Muhammed's case is even a woman, satan give and take, he gave Muhammed influence to conqare and later asked him to pay back with his life.
That is the prove by the Woman. How faible Muhammed was.!

just like the devil also quotes the bible,the arabian pagans also used the name of Allah in vain.

No no mr, allah was the orininal name of the meccans gods. And muhammed conserved it till date.
Despite the fact i am not a pagan, but the truth shouldnt be ignored.
It hurts muslim when faced with the truth.

No one runs computer business here?

Need advise on what to do with 20 pc. All fairly used. And 38 brand new keyboards.
Thinkin of cyber cafe,But in this case iguess i will need more. or sell the 20 at hand. Can someone advise on this plz. Thanks.

No responds? Plz can someone help!

anty Plappville,

if to say u fit come lagos,i go show u for where babalawo dey carry bible and they command "in the name of Jesus" and dey even worship Jehovah as him "chief god".

for that reason,wey i show,u suppose to accept say Jehovah and Jesus don become "chief idols" so you and all the Jesus-worshippers for dis world una don become idol worshipper too.or e go better say mek una stop to claim say Jesus na una "lord and saviour" becuz babalawo too dey claim Jesus and both Jesus and Jehovah don become "chief idols".

i hope say na one too make sense for your olodo head.

Always diverting! Muhammed kept the former name of the Chief Idol till date.
Is this hard to accept the truth? If he have not used this logic, Islam wouldnt ve been accepted by the Meccans.
Muhammed, used all he has to Form Islam by force. Although he didnt do it alone. The chief thief was in help spiritually.

Those people using the bible are even smaller, didnt u know that Satan, thier master also used the bible qoutes to tempt Jesus?
U and @Sweetnecta must learn to respect the public. Yoruba is not an official language in Nigeria. Writhing it to none Yorubas is rubbish. Becos, i dont care about what the meaning is.

@sweetnecta, why all these meaningless analyses? All U @Devidlan asked u is just a simple Documented historical prove from the socalled Jewish people that believed its from the Lord. Not what the angel of the Quran said.

I have got some 20 pc, i hope for more. And some hard disk as well. Need advise on what to do with it.
I was thinking of selling them to a company or use then for a Cyber cafe business.
But i actually ve no ideal whice is the best. Any advise please. God bless.

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]^{There will be 666 different options or versions of the mark. The beast will have 666 slightly different names that all . One of these names will seem appropriate and attractive to each person on earth. we're taking over the World our time is now , your one World order (GOD ) is off . now is our time , the new world order is now and never going to change !!} [/size]

We are told here in: II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: "only he who now letteth will let, "until he be taken out of the way". 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

So Whatever option it may come, the church is aware. Be sure that the "hindering" is the church full of God's Holy Spirit power. You ve not yet the power to take over the world yet. I must tell you that, right now, the overcoming church is the salt and light that is keeping this world from becoming an absolute cesspool of depravity.


The antichrist could not rise to power as long as the church is on the earth.
I know you might be wondering "how can that be??", See scriptures for urself:.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it

The church knows that the owner of SIN will be powerful when he will be revealed, But Jesus has promised that as long as His church is on the earth, the "government" of hell will not prevail against it.

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you

I John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world


I hope u can now understand that the church is indeed "hindering" the antichrist.
He cannot be "revealed" as stated in (II Thess 2: until we are taken out. And then, he will be consumed.

Posted by: @divineson, I agree with you, the beast is manifesting already. We know we are in the signs that tells Christ coming. One needs to hold firm and be strong, the most decietful times are here. The wise serpent is not relenting, So should we not. God will strenghten us till the end Amen.