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@LagosShia and others, U are insisting of the date of his death? U will agree that both u and i will come up with what History told us about his death, the cause and when he died.

I present to u a AL-BAYDAWI.

Writing about Muhammad's death, Al-Baidawi, the great expositor of the Quran, said:

"If he should die or be slain, will you then turn back on your heels?"  (refers to the incident in which)  Abdallah Ibn Qami'a al-Harithi threw a rock at Allah's Messenger that broke four of his front teeth and gashed his face.  Mus'ab Ibn Umair, who was the standard-bearer defended (Muhammad).  So Ibn Qami'a killed (Mus'ab), assuming that he killed the Prophet.  Then, as it is reported, he said "I killed Muhammad." Someone cried out, "Behold, Muhammad has been killed," and the people turned on their heels.  Then the Messenger cried out, "Come to me, servants of Allah," Thirty of his followers joined him and protected him until they scattered the unbelievers.  Some hypocrites said, "Had he been a prophet, he would not have been killed."  Anas Ibn Nadr, the uncle of Anas Ibn Malak, said, "O, people, if Muhammad is slain, Muhammad's Lord is alive, and dies not; what shall you do if you live after him?  So fight for what he fought for," and added "O Allah, I acquit myself of what they say and exonerate myself from it."  He then clasped his sword firmly and fought till he was killed, and the verse was revealed.

When Khaybar was conquered, and the people felt secure, Zainab Bint al-Harith, Salam Ibn Mishkam's wife, went about asking which part of the lamb was Muhammad's favorite to eat.  People told her, "It is the front leg, for it is the best part and the farthest from harm."  So she took a lamb, slaughtered it, and cut it up.  Then she took a deadly poison that kills instantly and poisoned the lamb, putting more poison in the leg and shoulder.  When the sun set, Muhammad led the people in the evening prayer.  When he finished he wanted to go, but she was sitting at his feet.  He asked her, and she said, "O Abu al-Qasim, here is a gift I have for you."  Muhammad ordered some of his friends to take it from her, and it was put before him in the presence of his friends, among whom was Bishr Ibn al-Bara' Ibn Ma'rur.  Muhammad said, "Come near and be seated."  Muhammad took the leg and ate, too.  When Muhammad had swallowed his bite, Bishr swallowed his, and the rest of the people ate of it.  Muhammad said, "Raise your hands; this leg and this shoulder tell me they are poisoned."  Bishr said, "By the One who honored you, I found the same in my morsel, but nothing kept me from spitting it out except that I would spoil the pleasure of your food.  When you ate that which was in your mouth, I did not desire my own soul more than yours, and wished that you had not swallowed it."  (One opinion has it that) Bishr died   then and there.  A part of the lamb was thrown to a dog, and the dog died.  Another opinion says that (Bishr's) color turned black and his pain lasted two years, after which he died.  It was also said that Muhammad took a bite of the lamb, chewed it, and spit it out, whereas Bihr swallowed his morsel.  Then Muhammad sent for this Jewess and asked her, "Have you poisoned this lamb?"  She said, "You have acquired   certain powers with which you judge those who are not loyal to you.  You killed my father, my uncle and my brother. . . So I said, "If he is a king, then I would be relieving us of him, and if he is a prophet, he   will be able to perceive.'"  It was said that he pardoned her, while others say he commanded her to be put to death and crucified.  When Muhammad fell ill   just before his death, he said to Aisha, "Aisha, I   still feel the effect of the poisoned food I ate; this is the time of my demise by that poison."  When   Bishr's sister entered his room during the time of his last sickness, he said to her, "This is the time of my demise by the meal I ate with your brother in   Khaybar."  (The above quotation is from the book Is The   Quran Infallible by Abdallah Abd al-Fadi, pages 378-  381).

Muslims are ashame to agree that thier prophet died of this poison? BUT WITH THE RECORDS? It does shows that he died of the poison. Befor he ate the meat, he hard no health weakness. THERE IS NO AUGUEMENT ABOUT IT.

ivoice247:
About 6 weeks later Muhammad led his army and attacked the Jews while they were on their way to work on their date palms.  Khaibar was a settlement defended by a number of forts spread apart from each other.  One by one Muhammad's army took the forts.  Finally, the last few surrendered to him.  Muhammad had several of the leaders of the Jewish settlement beheaded, one leader (Kinana) was tortured to reveal where buried treasure was hidden.  Then when Kinana was near death, Muhammad commanded that he be beheaded.  Many of the women and children were enslaved.  Muhammad even took the most beautiful woman for himself and married her (Safiyah).

           Some of Khaibar's residents made a deal with Muhammad.  Instead of enslaving them,  which would leave the rich orchards of Khaibar to go untended and unproductive, the Jews  would give Muhammad and the Muslims 1/2 of all of what they produced.  Muhammad accepted the deal, with the stipulation that they could be expelled at his slightest whim.  Years later, Umar expelled the last remaining Jews from Khaibar.

           Immediately following the conquest of Khaibar, a Jewish woman prepared a dinner for Muhammad and some of his men.  Unknown to the Muslims was that she had put a poison into the lamb (some say goat) that was served at dinner.  Muhammad ate some of the poisoned lamb and died as a result three years later.[/size]

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         PRESENTATION OF ISLAMIC SOURCES

PART A - THE POISONING OF MUHAMMAD
PART B - PREMONITIONS OF HIS DEATH
PART C - MUHAMMAD AND GABRIEL PRAY FOR HEALING
PART D - THE ADVENT OF MUHAMMAD'S DEATH


           I will use quotes from 4 highly respected Islamic writings:

1)         "Sahih Bukhari”.  This Hadith is considered to be the most important Islamic book, after the Quran.

2)         Ibn Ishaq's biography, the "Sirat Rasul Allah", (THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET), translated by A. Guillaume as "The Life of Muhammad", is the most authentic Sirat (biographical) literature recognized in Islam.

3)         Ibn Sa'd biography, the "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes), Volume 2.  Of the three, Ibn Sa'd's Sirat contains the most information relative to Muhammad's death.  I will not attempt to cover the spectrum of subjects Ibn Sa'd addresses in his.  However, I will cover and present his relevant material.

4)         Tabari's "History".  Tabari is one of the most highly respected authors in Islamic writings.  His "History" is 39 volumes.

5)         “Sahih Muslim”.  This collection of Hadith is considered to be equal to, or slightly below Bukhari’s collection of Hadith.


 
NOTE:  I have quoted quite a bit of material.  Some of it is redundant, but I feel that each quote I present provides an important detail concerning Muhammad's poisoning and death.  Please forgive the tedious nature of the quotes; it is essential that I present the source material as accurately as possible.

NOTE:  My comments appear in [  ] type brackets.  Frequently the authors themselves enclose comments in (   ) type brackets.  I will copy them as they appear in the text.

NOTE:  In some cases I will leave out the chain of narrators because they are quite long, and not necessary for the context of the story.


           Also, I will present quotes from the sources in as much of a  chronological sequence as  possible.
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PART A - THE POISONING OF MUHAMMAD


A1
From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:  A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No."  I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.


A2
From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394:  Narrated Abu Huraira:  When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews).  The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me."  The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question.  Will you tell the truth?"  They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?"  They replied, "So-and-so."  He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so."  They said,  "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?"  They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father."  On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?"  They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us."  The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it!  By Allah, we shall never replace you in it."  Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?"  They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim."  He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?"  They said, "Yes."  He asked, "What made you do so?"  They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."


A3
From Ibn Sa'd page 249:
           Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah.  He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away.  Then he said to the Companions:  "Halt!  Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her;  "What induced you to do what you have done?"  She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."


A4
From Ibn Sa'd page 249:  [different narrator]
           The apostle of Allah and his companions ate from it.  It (goat) said:  "I am poisoned."  He [Muhammad] said to his Companions, "Hold you hands!  because it has informed me that it is poisoned!"  They withdrew their hands, but Bishr Ibn al-Bara expired.  The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?"  She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you.  He gave orders and she was put to death.  [SEE NOTE 1]


A5
From Ibn Sa'd page 250:  [different narrator]
           Verily a woman of the Jews of Khaibar presented poisoned (meat of) goat to the apostle of Allah.  The he recognized that it was poisoned, so he sent for her and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?"  She replied, "I thought if you are a prophet, Allah will inform you, and if you are a pretender, I shall relieve people of you.  When the apostle of Allah felt sick, he got himself "cupped".  [SEE NOTE 2]


A6
From Ibn Sa'd pages 251, 252:  [different narrator]
           , When the apostle of Allah conquered Khaibar and he had peace of mind, Zaynab Bint al-Harith the brother of Marhab, who was the spouse of Sallam Ibn Mishkam, inquired, "Which part of the goat is liked by Muhammad?"  They said, "The foreleg."  Then she slaughtered one from her goats and roasted it (the meat).  Then she wanted a poison which could not fail. ,   The apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth.  Bishr took another bone and put it into his mouth.  When the apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it.  Then the apostle of Allah said, "Hold back your hands! because this foreleg; , informed me that it is poisoned. Thereupon Bishr said, "By Him who has made you great!  I discovered it from the morsel I took.  Nothing prevented me from emitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing.  When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong.
           Bishr did not rise form his seat but his color changed to that of "taylsan" (a green cloth), The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?"  She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done.  You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you."",
           The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away.  During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein."


A7
From Tabari Volume 8, page 123, 124:
           When the messenger of God rested from his labor, Zaynab bt. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam, served him a roast sheep.  She had asked what part of the sheep the messenger of God liked best and was told that it was the foreleg.  So she loaded that part with poison, and she poisoned the rest of the sheep too.  Then she brought it.  When she set it before the messenger of God, he took the foreleg and chewed a bit of it, but he did not swallow it.  With him was Bishr b. al-Bara b. Marur, who, like the messenger of God, took some of it; Bishr, however, swallowed it, while the messenger of God spat it out saying, "This bone informs me that it has been poisoned."  He asked, "What led you to do this?"  She said:  "How you have afflicted my people is not hidden from you.  So I said, "If he is a prophet, he will be informed; but if he is a king, I shall be rid of him"".  The prophet forgave her.  Bishr died of the food he had eaten.


A8
From Tabari Volume 8, page 124:  [different narrator]
           The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."  [See NOTE 3]


NOTE 1: There is disagreement over whether of not Muhammad had the women who poisoned him put to death. In short, he had her put to death for the death of the other Muslim - Bishr, who quickly died from the poisoning. See the reports by Ibn Sa'd, p. 250.

NOTE 2:  Cupping is essentially drawing a small amount of blood from your body.  Muhammad believed that bleeding oneself was "the best of medicines".

NOTE 3: The note on quote A8 states that the expression, "it severed his aorta" need not be taken literally; it is used metaphorically for extreme pain.


[b]PART B - PREMONITIONS OF HIS DEATH


B1
From Bukhari's Hadith 5.713:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:

'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know."  'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:-- "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca . . ." (110.1)

Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of."  'Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand."

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O
'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this
time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

B2
From Ibn Sa'd page 244:

           ,  and there has been no prophet but he has lived half the life of the prophet preceding him.  Jesus the son of Mary lived for one hundred and twenty five years, and this is the sixty second year of my life.  He (prophet) died half the year after this.

B3
From Ibn Sa'd page 239:

           The appointed hour (of death) of the apostle of Allah came near and he was ordered to recite repeatedly "tasbih" (lit. glorification) and ask for His forgiveness.

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B4
From Ibn Sa'd page 240:

           When (the Surah) Allah's succor and the triumph comes; was revealed he (prophet) said:  (It signifies) call from Allah and departure from the world.


B5
From Tabari Volume 9 page 108:

           When the prophet returned to Medina after performing the Pilgrimage of Completion, he began to have a complaint of illness.  As travel was allowed (after the pilgrimage), the news of the prophet's illness spread, Then in Muharram the prophet complained of the pain from which he died.
 

         PART C - MUHAMMAD AND GABRIEL PRAY FOR HEALING

NOTE:  It was already quoted from Ibn Sa'd above (page 250 that Muhammad tried to get himself healed of the poisoning.


C1
From Ibn Sa'd page 263

           Verily during his illness the prophet recited "al-Mu'awwadhatayn" [Sura 113, and 114], and blow his breath upon his body while rubbing his face.  [This was done in an effort to be healed].

C2
From Sahih Muslim volume 3, # 5440

           Aisha reported that when Allah’s Messenger fell ill, he recited over his body Mu’awwidhatan and blew over him and when his sickness was aggravated I used to recite over him and rub him with his hand with the hope that it was more blessed.  Also ref. Hadith # 5441.


C2
From Ibn Sa'd page 265

           The apostle of Allah fell ill and he i.e. Gabriel, chanted on him, saying, "In the name of Allah I chant on to ward off from you every thing that harms you and (to ward off you) against every envier and from every evil eye and Allah will heal you."


C3
From Ibn Sa'd page 265  [Different narrator]

           Aisha, the wife of the prophet used to say, "When the apostle of Allah fell ill, Gabriel chanted on him saying, "In the name of Allah Who will cure you and Who will heal you from every malady (and will ward off) the evil of envier who envies and from smite of the evil eye.""


C4
From Ibn Sa'd page 322

           Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah.  But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, "O soul!  What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?"
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PART D - THE ADVENT OF MUHAMMAD'S DEATH


D1 [again quoting from Bukhari's Hadith 5.713:]

Narrated 'Aisha:

           The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
 
D2
From Ibn Hisham page 678:

           While matters were thus the apostle began to suffer from the illness by which God took him to what honor and compassion He intended for him shortly before the end of Safar or in the beginning of Rabi'ul-awwal.  It began, so I have been told, when he went to Baqi'u'l-Gharqad in the middle of the night and prayed for the dead.  Then he returned to his family and in the morning his sufferings began.


D3
From Ibn Hisham page 679:

           Then the apostle's illness worsened and he suffered much pain.  He said, "Pour seven skins of water from different wells over me so that I may go out to the men and instruct them."  We made him sit down in a tub belonging to Hafsa d. Umar and we poured water over him until he cried, "Enough, enough!"

           , then he [Muhammad] said, "God has given one of his servants the choice between this world and that which is with God and he has chosen the latter."

D4
From Ibn Hisham page 680:

           Then some of his wives gathered to him,  while his uncle Abbas was with him, and they agreed to force him to take medicine.  Abbas said, "Let me force him," but they did it.  When he recovered he asked who had treated him thus.  When they told him it was his uncle he said, "This is a medicine which women have brought from that country," and he pointed in the direction of Abyssinia [Ethiopia].  When he asked why they had done that his uncle said, "We were afraid that you would get pleurisy;" he replied, "That is a disease which God would not afflict me with.  Let no one stop in the house until they have been forced to take this medicine, except my uncle."  Maymuna [one of Muhammad's wives] was forced to take it although she was fasting because of the apostle's oath, as a punishment for what they had done to him.
 
D5
From Ibn Sa'd page 294

           Umm Bishr [the mother of the Muslim man who also died eating poison], came to the prophet during his illness and said, "O apostle of Allah!  I never saw fever like it in any one."  The prophet said to her, "Our trial is double and so our reward [in heaven], is double.  What do the people say about it [his illness]?"  She said, "They say it is pleurisy."  Thereupon the apostle said, "Allah will not like to make His apostle suffer from it (pleurisy) because it indicates the possession of Satan, but (my disease is the result of) the morsel that I had taken along your son.  It has cut my jugular vein."
SEE NOTE 3


D6
From Ibn Hisham page 682:

           , that he heard Aisha [one of Muhammad's wives] say:  "The apostle died in my bosom during my turn: [the night Muhammad was to spend sleeping with her]  I had wronged none in regard to him.  It was due to my ignorance and extreme youth that the apostle died in my arms."

D7
From Ibn Sa'd page 322:

           When the last moment of the prophet was near, he used to draw a sheet over his face; but when he felt uneasy, he removed it from his face and said:  "Allah's damnation be on the Jews and the Christians who made the graves of their prophets objects of worship."


NOTE 3:  Pleurisy is an infection of a lung membrane.  It is painful.  I don't know why Muhammad considered this infection to be from Satan, but poisoning would not be from Satan.



         SUMMARY OF THE SOURCES


           Muhammad attacked Khaibar. He destroyed, tortured, murdered, plundered, and enslaved many people (ref Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, volume 2, page 134, 136, 137). They were not preparing to attack him. A Jewish woman, whose family had been wiped out by Muhammad, put poison into a lamb and fed it to Muhammad and the other Muslims. Muhammad ingested some of the poisoned lamb and began to feel it's effects. He died three years later as a result of the poisoning.


         DISCUSSION

           What needs to be investigated here are the circumstances of Muhammad's death.   The Jews were planning to murder him.  The Jews believed that a real prophet would be forewarned of their deed but an impostor wouldn't be warned by God.  The Muslims also believed this; the other Muslim who died said that he didn't think Muhammad would eat of something that was poisoned (see quote in A6).

           The Jews were right, Muhammad did eat of the poison, and did die from it.  They proved, according to their test, that Muhammad was not a prophet.  As they said (quote A2):

           "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

           These Jews were convinced that a real prophet would know what was going on.  In this case Muhammad didn't know.  Only after Muhammad ate from the lamb did the lamb "talk to him".  I don't think that that was anything miraculous in itself; even the other Muslim knew it was bad before Muhammad ate from it.  Most adults know when they are eating something that is bad.  So for Muhammad to say the sheep "talked" to him is not prophetic at all.  Even a child spits out bad tasting food.

           Many times previously, Muhammad claimed to have had "revelations" that warned him of danger.  He even used one of these convenient "revelations" as grounds to attack the Jewish settlement of Banu Nadhir.  Yet at Khaibar the revelation came too late:  too late to save his own life, too late to save Bishr's life.

           As his illness wore on, Muhammad began to pray for healing – he even rubbed his “healing” hand upon himself.  Gabriel also got into the act and prayed for his healing  (see quotes C2 & C3).  Muhammad even got himself "cupped" (the best of all medicines!), (quote A5).  Obviously, at this point in time, Muhammad wanted to be healed.

           But it didn't help.  As it progressively got worse, Muhammad realized that he was dying, ceased praying for healing (quote C4), and claimed that Allah had given him a choice to going to Paradise, or living on earth.  Muhammad said he then wanted to go to Paradise.  Knowing the game was up, he made the best out of a failed situation.
             
Muhammad's earlier premonitions of his deaths read more like the cosmic words of a mystic.  Nothing definite is ever said about them until after his approaching death.  Perhaps he had seen this type of death before and knew the outcome.  It doesn't take a prophet or a "revelation" to know that death is near.  [color=#990000]Let's stick to the facts, please




           My basic point is this:  the Jews proved that Muhammad was not a real prophet.  He ingested the poison, so did at least one of his followers.  He attempted to be healed, he tried his medicine, and his form of  “laying on of hands”, his prayer, Aisha’s prayer, and even Gabriel’s prayer, but in the end, he died from the poison.



         QUESTIONS


1)         If Muhammad were a real prophet of God, why didn't he catch the poison before he ate it?


2)         If you believe that it was God's will for Muhammad to have eaten the poison, along with Bishr, why then did Muhammad try to get well? Even Gabriel prayed for Muhammad to get better, but Allah didn't answer that prayer either.

3)         Why did Gabriel not know the will of Allah? Why would Gabriel pray if Allah had decided death?


4)         Why did Muhammad force the other Muslims to drink the medicine he was given? One of them was one of his wives, and she was fasting. He forced her to break her fast and drink the medicine as well. Doesn't this sound vindictive and petty?

5)         Why, when just before his death, did Muhammad have to utter a curse upon the Christians and the Jews? Wouldn't it have been better for Muhammad to pray for guidance for them? This also sounds like a jealous, bitter prayer to Allah. Muhammad prayed for and uttered curses instead of asking Allah to guide people.

6)         Why would pleurisy, which is a normal infection of the lung membrane, be considered to be from Satan, but being poisoned would not be from Satan?

 
         CONCLUSION


           Muhammad was not a real prophet, he was a false prophet.  He died as a result of eating poison that he didn't know about.  The poisoned lamb "spoke" to him too late.  Only when he realized he was dying did Muhammad "spiritualize" his suffering and coming  death.  Prior to that he tried to get well.

           Moses knew about his coming death (Deut 34:1-5).  Jesus also knew of His future death (Mark 8:32, 32).  Yet Muhammad was in the dark until he himself realized he was going to die.

           Paul the apostle was bitten by a poisonous snake (Acts 28:1-6), but Paul suffered no ill effects from the bite.  God had his hand of protection on Paul, to finish the work laid out for him.  Muhammad died so suddenly that there was confusion as to would be the next ruler of the Islamic state.  To this day, part of that confusion remains. The Islamic world is divided in part because of this issue (Shia vs. Sunni).  Wouldn't Allah, who abhors division within the Ummah have protected Muhammad long enough to insure that his state remain unified, and a clearly defined successor be named?

           Jesus predicted false prophets would come into the world and mislead many (Matthew 24:24).  Muhammad was such a false prophet.  Both Jesus and Moses knew God face to face, Muhammad only had a spirit or angel he called "Gabriel" speaking to him.  In the end, even this angel's prayers were not answered by Allah.  Could it be that this "Gabriel" was preaching a false religion (Galatians 1: to Muhammad?  Could Gabriel have been a deceptive demon or Satan himself?


http://answering-islam.org/Silas/mo-death.htm

All this just to deny the truth in your book? well i will answer @lagoshia, he its same answer for u, i guess.

LagosShia:
a liar is not my brother! so hold your thick mouth and dont repeat that rubbish again!!!

you have lied once by claiming that Muhammad (sa) died as a result of poisoning by a jew.this is the topic of this thread started by you:

"Re: Muhammad Poisoned By A Jew, Why Must He Die Poisoned, After All He Is A Beloved"

now you are again lying that i am denying islamic history,when i did not deny anything.

to answer me a simple question,you have refused.now you are running away as christians are fond of doing in every thread.dont start what you cannot finish.dont reply tomorrow.reply today and answer my simple question.i beg of you!!!

But i told u i will join u today, i ve life outside NL ok! each time has his duties

[size=16pt]Must u deny everything? U are dinying Islamic history of its prophets death, waooohh!![/size]

I must leave u now, join u morrow by Gods grace happy new year broda!

LagosShia:
i am not denying anything!

there is no where in the accounts you gave that say that Muhammad's (sa) death was the result of poisoning by a jew.the accounts from hadiths presented some report that he did not simply eat the meat because he knew it was poisoned,while others say as he put the meat into his mouth he knew the meat was poisoned and ordered everyone else to stop eating.and he too did.he then questioned the woman why she poisoned the meat and she told him because she wanted to see if he would know as a "prophet of God".so that was the test for his prophethood and he passed it.then there is an isolated report attributed to Aisha that says that he felt the effect of the poison (not that it killed him) when he was getting ill and close to his death.

now,i want to test you:

tell us the year when Muhammad (sa) was at Khaybar and the alleged incident of poisoning took place and the year he died.how many years went away after that incident after which Muhammad (sa) died? i want to see if it was poison that really killed him!!!!

U cannot test me, i did not write the hadith or so, if they state the date then i will get it for u, if not, i am not a fabrication to history.

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O
'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this
time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Aisha is surposed to be the last to lie about this event, if she stated it as above, so what ve u to say otherwise!

Sweetnecta:
I will watch the "lion" of Islam tear up the she lamb without any defense.

Like Sunny Ade said ati apa and ati ekun eron jije ala egi sunny.

We in Islam know. We are happy about the life of the messenger [as]. No messenger [as] of Allah was killed by the enemies. It is only made to appear so. And all doubt are in conjecture.

Plappville, its your turn. Call all your supporters. Lagosshia will make a mince meat of them. And they will not be fit for meatballs on any pasta.

Hey, whats the crying for? these facts are not from the bible but ur own books. Whats not true is not Islam isn't that the quote of Muslim? So why now the fact on the prophet's death that was recordrd in the Islamic book has suddenly be a different case?

Martian:
Have you administered the same test  of faith on yourself? Since this was a good way to prove Mohammed and Islam false, why don't we see what your "saviour" said.
Mark
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

Ive seen some fundies handle poisonless snakes.
The esteemed MOGs of Nigeria lay hands on the sick all the time and they can give Johns Hopkins a run for their money when it comes to healing. Hell, Joagbaje can raise the dead.
Oyedepo is famous for slapping the demons out of girls. He keeps his p!mp hand strong.
These are the signs of the followers of jesus. But I've yet to see you people swallow cyanide, rat poison and the likes.

I would love to see you try.

Mr u don't know me, i am not here to publish the sort of Gift i obtained since i became born again.
As far as i am concern, I ve several proof. It mustn't be same as others.

LagosShia:
the Quran is not a biography of Muhammad (s) as the new testament's "four gospels" are biographies of Jesus.

so the Quran does not mention about the incident at hand (that is the poisoning) at all.

so please,since you have presented a bundle of information quoting from here and there,just give us the dates of when the Prophet (sa) allegedly ate poisoned meat and when did he pass away? and then tell us,did he actually eat poisoned meat? or according to the information and hadiths quoted,the incident at Khaybay when a jewess tried to poison the Prophet (sa),it was a miraculous event where Muhammad (sa) proved to be a true prophet of God?

please tell us!dont just quote tonnes of info and remarks of christian missionaries that you cannot defend.now answer my questions!pretty please!!!

U are dinying the written of Islamic books. If u want to have date etc u still ve to go and get that from the Books that presented his death. U must ve some fabricated lies outside the truth as usual.

U should asked the Islamic holy books. or did the Quran gave a different story as usual?

@Topic, that is the reason why he willingly submited himself. All things worked in accordance.
He said, i have been with u in the temple, but u didn't arrest me, but now your hour has come.
The hour that is previewed has come. Like u said, no King will allow himself to be captured this easily.

Of course he knew he will die, but yet he walked freely and made sure he did what is to be done before the appointed time. He was obeyed by Demons, winds and storms, he could ve easily stoped his enemies.

But, true his Kingdom is not of this world. JESUS IS THE KING OF KINGS.

The Jews were right, Muhammad did eat of the poison, and did die from it. They proved, according to their test, that Muhammad was not a prophet. As they said (quote A2):

"We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

This is a good way to prove him false, but i will also say that, As a prophet, he is surposed to get the vision of this event, Why the usual angel didn't reveal that he should not eat or even stop him from the event that leads to his death? or did the quran predicted he will die of poison as a fulfillment?

THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD

INTRODUCTION

Muhammad died in 632 A.D. He died as a result of being poisoned following his attack upon and conquest of the Jewish settlement of Khaibar. About 2 month before his attack on Khaibar Muhammad failed in an attempt to go to Mecca. This failure resulted in the Treaty of Hudaybiyya with the Meccans. He returned humiliated in the eyes of the Meccans and in the minds of his people. To lift their defeated spirit, Muhammad told his followers that the events at Hudaybiyya were really a victory. In fact, another convenient "revelation" was given to Muhammad as proof that it really was a victory (Sura 48:1). However, Allah was not able to deliver the Meccan's goods as booty, so Muhammad told his followers that they were going to attack and plunder the weaker Jewish settlement of Khaibar.

About 6 weeks later Muhammad led his army and attacked the Jews while they were on their way to work on their date palms. Khaibar was a settlement defended by a number of forts spread apart from each other. One by one Muhammad's army took the forts. Finally, the last few surrendered to him. Muhammad had several of the leaders of the Jewish settlement beheaded, one leader (Kinana) was tortured to reveal where buried treasure was hidden. Then when Kinana was near death, Muhammad commanded that he be beheaded. Many of the women and children were enslaved. Muhammad even took the most beautiful woman for himself and married her (Safiyah).

Some of Khaibar's residents made a deal with Muhammad. Instead of enslaving them, which would leave the rich orchards of Khaibar to go untended and unproductive, the Jews would give Muhammad and the Muslims 1/2 of all of what they produced. Muhammad accepted the deal, with the stipulation that they could be expelled at his slightest whim. Years later, Umar expelled the last remaining Jews from Khaibar.

Immediately following the conquest of Khaibar, a Jewish woman prepared a dinner for Muhammad and some of his men. Unknown to the Muslims was that she had put a poison into the lamb (some say goat) that was served at dinner. Muhammad ate some of the poisoned lamb and died as a result three years later.

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PRESENTATION OF ISLAMIC SOURCES

PART A - THE POISONING OF MUHAMMAD
PART B - PREMONITIONS OF HIS DEATH
PART C - MUHAMMAD AND GABRIEL PRAY FOR HEALING
PART D - THE ADVENT OF MUHAMMAD'S DEATH


I will use quotes from 4 highly respected Islamic writings:

1) "Sahih Bukhari”. This Hadith is considered to be the most important Islamic book, after the Quran.

2) Ibn Ishaq's biography, the "Sirat Rasul Allah", (THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET), translated by A. Guillaume as "The Life of Muhammad", is the most authentic Sirat (biographical) literature recognized in Islam.

3) Ibn Sa'd biography, the "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes), Volume 2. Of the three, Ibn Sa'd's Sirat contains the most information relative to Muhammad's death. I will not attempt to cover the spectrum of subjects Ibn Sa'd addresses in his. However, I will cover and present his relevant material.

4) Tabari's "History". Tabari is one of the most highly respected authors in Islamic writings. His "History" is 39 volumes.

5) “Sahih Muslim”. This collection of Hadith is considered to be equal to, or slightly below Bukhari’s collection of Hadith.


NOTE: I have quoted quite a bit of material. Some of it is redundant, but I feel that each quote I present provides an important detail concerning Muhammad's poisoning and death. Please forgive the tedious nature of the quotes; it is essential that I present the source material as accurately as possible.

NOTE: My comments appear in [ ] type brackets. Frequently the authors themselves enclose comments in ( ) type brackets. I will copy them as they appear in the text.

NOTE: In some cases I will leave out the chain of narrators because they are quite long, and not necessary for the context of the story.


Also, I will present quotes from the sources in as much of a chronological sequence as possible.
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PART A - THE POISONING OF MUHAMMAD


A1
From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786:
Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.


A2
From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."


A3
From Ibn Sa'd page 249:
Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."


A4
From Ibn Sa'd page 249: [different narrator]
The apostle of Allah and his companions ate from it. It (goat) said: "I am poisoned." He [Muhammad] said to his Companions, "Hold you hands! because it has informed me that it is poisoned!" They withdrew their hands, but Bishr Ibn al-Bara expired. The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you. He gave orders and she was put to death. [SEE NOTE 1]


A5
From Ibn Sa'd page 250: [different narrator]
Verily a woman of the Jews of Khaibar presented poisoned (meat of) goat to the apostle of Allah. The he recognized that it was poisoned, so he sent for her and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I thought if you are a prophet, Allah will inform you, and if you are a pretender, I shall relieve people of you. When the apostle of Allah felt sick, he got himself "cupped". [SEE NOTE 2]


A6
From Ibn Sa'd pages 251, 252: [different narrator]
, When the apostle of Allah conquered Khaibar and he had peace of mind, Zaynab Bint al-Harith the brother of Marhab, who was the spouse of Sallam Ibn Mishkam, inquired, "Which part of the goat is liked by Muhammad?" They said, "The foreleg." Then she slaughtered one from her goats and roasted it (the meat). Then she wanted a poison which could not fail. , The apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the apostle of Allah said, "Hold back your hands! because this foreleg; , informed me that it is poisoned. Thereupon Bishr said, "By Him who has made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from emitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong.
Bishr did not rise form his seat but his color changed to that of "taylsan" (a green cloth), The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done. You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you."",
The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein."


A7
From Tabari Volume 8, page 123, 124:
When the messenger of God rested from his labor, Zaynab bt. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam, served him a roast sheep. She had asked what part of the sheep the messenger of God liked best and was told that it was the foreleg. So she loaded that part with poison, and she poisoned the rest of the sheep too. Then she brought it. When she set it before the messenger of God, he took the foreleg and chewed a bit of it, but he did not swallow it. With him was Bishr b. al-Bara b. Marur, who, like the messenger of God, took some of it; Bishr, however, swallowed it, while the messenger of God spat it out saying, "This bone informs me that it has been poisoned." He asked, "What led you to do this?" She said: "How you have afflicted my people is not hidden from you. So I said, "If he is a prophet, he will be informed; but if he is a king, I shall be rid of him"". The prophet forgave her. Bishr died of the food he had eaten.


A8
From Tabari Volume 8, page 124: [different narrator]
The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar." [See NOTE 3]


NOTE 1: There is disagreement over whether of not Muhammad had the women who poisoned him put to death. In short, he had her put to death for the death of the other Muslim - Bishr, who quickly died from the poisoning. See the reports by Ibn Sa'd, p. 250.

NOTE 2: Cupping is essentially drawing a small amount of blood from your body. Muhammad believed that bleeding oneself was "the best of medicines".

NOTE 3: The note on quote A8 states that the expression, "it severed his aorta" need not be taken literally; it is used metaphorically for extreme pain.


[b]PART B - PREMONITIONS OF HIS DEATH


B1
From Bukhari's Hadith 5.713:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:

'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know." 'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:-- "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca . . ." (110.1)

Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of." 'Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand."

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O
'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this
time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


B2
From Ibn Sa'd page 244:

, and there has been no prophet but he has lived half the life of the prophet preceding him. Jesus the son of Mary lived for one hundred and twenty five years, and this is the sixty second year of my life. He (prophet) died half the year after this.


B3
From Ibn Sa'd page 239:

The appointed hour (of death) of the apostle of Allah came near and he was ordered to recite repeatedly "tasbih" (lit. glorification) and ask for His forgiveness.


B4
From Ibn Sa'd page 240:

When (the Surah) Allah's succor and the triumph comes; was revealed he (prophet) said: (It signifies) call from Allah and departure from the world.


B5
From Tabari Volume 9 page 108:

When the prophet returned to Medina after performing the Pilgrimage of Completion, he began to have a complaint of illness. As travel was allowed (after the pilgrimage), the news of the prophet's illness spread, Then in Muharram the prophet complained of the pain from which he died.



PART C - MUHAMMAD AND GABRIEL PRAY FOR HEALING

NOTE: It was already quoted from Ibn Sa'd above (page 250 that Muhammad tried to get himself healed of the poisoning.


C1
From Ibn Sa'd page 263

Verily during his illness the prophet recited "al-Mu'awwadhatayn" [Sura 113, and 114], and blow his breath upon his body while rubbing his face. [This was done in an effort to be healed].

C2
From Sahih Muslim volume 3, # 5440

Aisha reported that when Allah’s Messenger fell ill, he recited over his body Mu’awwidhatan and blew over him and when his sickness was aggravated I used to recite over him and rub him with his hand with the hope that it was more blessed. Also ref. Hadith # 5441.


C2
From Ibn Sa'd page 265

The apostle of Allah fell ill and he i.e. Gabriel, chanted on him, saying, "In the name of Allah I chant on to ward off from you every thing that harms you and (to ward off you) against every envier and from every evil eye and Allah will heal you."


C3
From Ibn Sa'd page 265 [Different narrator]

Aisha, the wife of the prophet used to say, "When the apostle of Allah fell ill, Gabriel chanted on him saying, "In the name of Allah Who will cure you and Who will heal you from every malady (and will ward off) the evil of envier who envies and from smite of the evil eye.""


C4
From Ibn Sa'd page 322

Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah. But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, "O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?"
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PART D - THE ADVENT OF MUHAMMAD'S DEATH


D1 [again quoting from Bukhari's Hadith 5.713:]

Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


D2
From Ibn Hisham page 678:

While matters were thus the apostle began to suffer from the illness by which God took him to what honor and compassion He intended for him shortly before the end of Safar or in the beginning of Rabi'ul-awwal. It began, so I have been told, when he went to Baqi'u'l-Gharqad in the middle of the night and prayed for the dead. Then he returned to his family and in the morning his sufferings began.


D3
From Ibn Hisham page 679:

Then the apostle's illness worsened and he suffered much pain. He said, "Pour seven skins of water from different wells over me so that I may go out to the men and instruct them." We made him sit down in a tub belonging to Hafsa d. Umar and we poured water over him until he cried, "Enough, enough!"

, then he [Muhammad] said, "God has given one of his servants the choice between this world and that which is with God and he has chosen the latter."


D4
From Ibn Hisham page 680:

Then some of his wives gathered to him, while his uncle Abbas was with him, and they agreed to force him to take medicine. Abbas said, "Let me force him," but they did it. When he recovered he asked who had treated him thus. When they told him it was his uncle he said, "This is a medicine which women have brought from that country," and he pointed in the direction of Abyssinia [Ethiopia]. When he asked why they had done that his uncle said, "We were afraid that you would get pleurisy;" he replied, "That is a disease which God would not afflict me with. Let no one stop in the house until they have been forced to take this medicine, except my uncle." Maymuna [one of Muhammad's wives] was forced to take it although she was fasting because of the apostle's oath, as a punishment for what they had done to him.


D5
From Ibn Sa'd page 294

Umm Bishr [the mother of the Muslim man who also died eating poison], came to the prophet during his illness and said, "O apostle of Allah! I never saw fever like it in any one." The prophet said to her, "Our trial is double and so our reward [in heaven], is double. What do the people say about it [his illness]?" She said, "They say it is pleurisy." Thereupon the apostle said, "Allah will not like to make His apostle suffer from it (pleurisy) because it indicates the possession of Satan, but (my disease is the result of) the morsel that I had taken along your son. It has cut my jugular vein."
SEE NOTE 3


D6
From Ibn Hisham page 682:

, that he heard Aisha [one of Muhammad's wives] say: "The apostle died in my bosom during my turn: [the night Muhammad was to spend sleeping with her] I had wronged none in regard to him. It was due to my ignorance and extreme youth that the apostle died in my arms."

D7
From Ibn Sa'd page 322:

When the last moment of the prophet was near, he used to draw a sheet over his face; but when he felt uneasy, he removed it from his face and said: "Allah's damnation be on the Jews and the Christians who made the graves of their prophets objects of worship."


NOTE 3: Pleurisy is an infection of a lung membrane. It is painful. I don't know why Muhammad considered this infection to be from Satan, but poisoning would not be from Satan.



SUMMARY OF THE SOURCES


Muhammad attacked Khaibar. He destroyed, tortured, murdered, plundered, and enslaved many people (ref Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, volume 2, page 134, 136, 137). They were not preparing to attack him. A Jewish woman, whose family had been wiped out by Muhammad, put poison into a lamb and fed it to Muhammad and the other Muslims. Muhammad ingested some of the poisoned lamb and began to feel it's effects. He died three years later as a result of the poisoning.


DISCUSSION

What needs to be investigated here are the circumstances of Muhammad's death. The Jews were planning to murder him. The Jews believed that a real prophet would be forewarned of their deed but an impostor wouldn't be warned by God. The Muslims also believed this; the other Muslim who died said that he didn't think Muhammad would eat of something that was poisoned (see quote in A6).

The Jews were right, Muhammad did eat of the poison, and did die from it. They proved, according to their test, that Muhammad was not a prophet. As they said (quote A2):

"We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

These Jews were convinced that a real prophet would know what was going on. In this case Muhammad didn't know. Only after Muhammad ate from the lamb did the lamb "talk to him". I don't think that that was anything miraculous in itself; even the other Muslim knew it was bad before Muhammad ate from it. Most adults know when they are eating something that is bad. So for Muhammad to say the sheep "talked" to him is not prophetic at all. Even a child spits out bad tasting food.

Many times previously, Muhammad claimed to have had "revelations" that warned him of danger. He even used one of these convenient "revelations" as grounds to attack the Jewish settlement of Banu Nadhir. Yet at Khaibar the revelation came too late: too late to save his own life, too late to save Bishr's life.

As his illness wore on, Muhammad began to pray for healing – he even rubbed his “healing” hand upon himself. Gabriel also got into the act and prayed for his healing (see quotes C2 & C3). Muhammad even got himself "cupped" (the best of all medicines!), (quote A5). Obviously, at this point in time, Muhammad wanted to be healed.

But it didn't help. As it progressively got worse, Muhammad realized that he was dying, ceased praying for healing (quote C4), and claimed that Allah had given him a choice to going to Paradise, or living on earth. Muhammad said he then wanted to go to Paradise. Knowing the game was up, he made the best out of a failed situation.

Muhammad's earlier premonitions of his deaths read more like the cosmic words of a mystic. Nothing definite is ever said about them until after his approaching death. Perhaps he had seen this type of death before and knew the outcome. It doesn't take a prophet or a "revelation" to know that death is near.


My basic point is this: the Jews proved that Muhammad was not a real prophet. He ingested the poison, so did at least one of his followers. He attempted to be healed, he tried his medicine, and his form of “laying on of hands”, his prayer, Aisha’s prayer, and even Gabriel’s prayer, but in the end, he died from the poison.



QUESTIONS


1) If Muhammad were a real prophet of God, why didn't he catch the poison before he ate it?

2) If you believe that it was God's will for Muhammad to have eaten the poison, along with Bishr, why then did Muhammad try to get well? Even Gabriel prayed for Muhammad to get better, but Allah didn't answer that prayer either.

3) Why did Gabriel not know the will of Allah? Why would Gabriel pray if Allah had decided death?

4) Why did Muhammad force the other Muslims to drink the medicine he was given? One of them was one of his wives, and she was fasting. He forced her to break her fast and drink the medicine as well. Doesn't this sound vindictive and petty?

5) Why, when just before his death, did Muhammad have to utter a curse upon the Christians and the Jews? Wouldn't it have been better for Muhammad to pray for guidance for them? This also sounds like a jealous, bitter prayer to Allah. Muhammad prayed for and uttered curses instead of asking Allah to guide people.

6) Why would pleurisy, which is a normal infection of the lung membrane, be considered to be from Satan, but being poisoned would not be from Satan?



CONCLUSION


Muhammad was not a real prophet, he was a false prophet. He died as a result of eating poison that he didn't know about. The poisoned lamb "spoke" to him too late. Only when he realized he was dying did Muhammad "spiritualize" his suffering and coming death. Prior to that he tried to get well.

Moses knew about his coming death (Deut 34:1-5). Jesus also knew of His future death (Mark 8:32, 32). Yet Muhammad was in the dark until he himself realized he was going to die.

Paul the apostle was bitten by a poisonous snake (Acts 28:1-6), but Paul suffered no ill effects from the bite. God had his hand of protection on Paul, to finish the work laid out for him. Muhammad died so suddenly that there was confusion as to would be the next ruler of the Islamic state. To this day, part of that confusion remains. The Islamic world is divided in part because of this issue (Shia vs. Sunni). Wouldn't Allah, who abhors division within the Ummah have protected Muhammad long enough to insure that his state remain unified, and a clearly defined successor be named?

Jesus predicted false prophets would come into the world and mislead many (Matthew 24:24). Muhammad was such a false prophet. Both Jesus and Moses knew God face to face, Muhammad only had a spirit or angel he called "Gabriel" speaking to him. In the end, even this angel's prayers were not answered by Allah. Could it be that this "Gabriel" was preaching a false religion (Galatians 1: to Muhammad? Could Gabriel have been a deceptive demon or Satan himself?

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/mo-death.htm

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under a trust from God and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.


Let's examine ourselves: To what extent are we following this inimitable message?

"Forbidden to you are, married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)

So Women are still slavering?

shiite:
Allaah Himself has cursed some people in His Noble Book. And we must curse whomsoever He has cursed. He has cursed hypocrites and Zaalimoon. You should know why we curse some of your heroes then.

No wonder!

LagosShia:
i have asked brother "kwara shia" aka "shiite" to reply you ASAP.

but if i may add my contribution,where did he also say that you should love evil men that afflicted harm and sorrow upon his purified and beloved family members the Quran order us to love?

where also did he say you should not curse evil people as Allah does in the Quran?

where did he say you should associate yourself,beliefs and creed with evil men?

where did he say you should conceal the truth about what happened to his beloved Ahlul-Bayt (as)?

where did he say you should not enjoin good and forbid evil?

answer each question if you are sincere!

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=832290.msg9847237#msg9847237 date=1325046256]in response to the bold, Did you have good view about Islam? if you do you wont blame any attack on all Muslims cos some section are extremist does that make all Muslims extremist? If your brother/sister is bad does that make all your family bad since you were raised under the same roof by the same parents. What do you want me to Believe about skynews? are they not the same media that have been spoiling the image of Islam from the west? go to google and search on secret behind 9/11 and you will get to know there is some shady deal behind that attack withing the top men in the American Government[/quote]Mr, The attacks are ordered from the QURAN. does who are respecting it are the ones in total submition to the Prophets order.

ivoice247:
Lets get something clear. Any muslim who kills a christian or any other non-muslim because of religion will abide in HELL-FIRE; this is the believe of all muslims (alu sunnah wa jama'ah) that follow the preachings of the quran and sunnah. And all who perpetrate such killings must be beheaded, hanged or executed according to shariah, But many non-muslims believe that because someone shouts allahu-akbar or grows a beard etc and then perpetrates an act (e.g. bomb a church) then islam permits this. Its just like saying because many western and american pastors support gay marriages, this means christianity supports homosexuality, of course NOT!

And the glorious quran states in chapter 17 v33:- And [b]do not kill anyone whose killing Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed wrongfully (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [to kill back - or to forgive, or to take Diyah (blood money)]. [/b]But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic law).

Why should the Kuran ordered killing at all?

East:
Food for taught for those who think that the population of a denomination matters.

Matthew 7:13-14
(KJV)
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If something is wrong, let it be wrong! It is not because you are into it that you harded your heart and refuse to see with your own eyes that it is wrong; what ever religion.

That is why many will continue to be led astray, harden of the heart to the truth.

Then he took the bread and when he had given thanks he broke it and give it to them saying This is my body given for you do this in remembrance of me. He did the same with the cup after supper and said This cup is the new covenant in my blood poured out for you. Your pastors knows that they dont have the power to do this so they dont bother about it.

I wonder what pastor will neglet this. I worship in a church where we do practise this yearly. A service very sacred, not to toy with.

LagosShia:
HOLY QURAN 5:32:
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.

HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 7:55:
(O mankind!) Call upon your Lord humbly and in secret. Lo! He loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 8:61:
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."

HOLY QURAN 5:2:
" ,  and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment."

HOLY QURAN 41:34:
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"

HOLY QURAN 4:135:
"O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do."

HOLY QURAN 16:90
"God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed."

HOLY QURAN 16:126:
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 21:107:
"And we have not sent you but as a mercy for the world"

your socalled Prophet couldn't ve written his Quran if not for the bible. The Christian writer he was using had helped him alot in coping the bible before he killed the man, and claimed that to be a Miracle.
The Quran has no word of diviness, Its fake and anyone ASIDE Islam, that reads it will definatelly see the EVIL make up of it. SMITH is very similar to Muhammed in many ways.

vedaxcool:
[size=18pt]The Similarities between Papville and Paul are that they both Pretend to follow Jesus but tell grave lies against him[/size]

If i pretend to follow Jesus it is not ur headach, I ve a privillage to expose the falsehood of (ISLAM)! Muhammed,
Mormon, J.Smith and others, in same category.

LagosShia:
you must truly be the b!tch i used to call you for you to think each time you are Hot you would bring up claims that have been refuted and expect me to refute them one by one.you dont deserve respect because you dont respect others and their intelligence.sitting behind your computer screen does not give you the right to play with nonsense and annoy others.your tactic of wasting my time and distracting me with old stories already dealt with decisively will not stop me from concentrating on new scandalous threads which will expose the falsehood of your false beliefs.

you better go and check the old thread you thick skulls started and find your answers there.each time you are Hot and use repetitition to express yourself you'd be given the same answer and experience.keep chewing the past stories and their answers like the way a goat regurgitates.

Islam Heaven awaiting u Mr!

vedaxcool:
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Boko Haram love this verse

For those my enemies who do not want us to reign over them bring them here and slay them

BH chief said to his gang:

those who have no guns sell your garments and buy guns

Gang
Master we have "two" Guns[/size]

Was this verse writen for Islam? was Islam existing when this verse was written? It's a verse that was spoken to "what" was in existant during Christ time. U can't ve a knowledge of it even if i explain what Jesus meant by this.

A parable was told following this verse true or false? Think mr.

ziccoit:
“This is a message from Muhammed ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity. Near and far, we are with them. Verily I , the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them.

No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks remove from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslim's houses.

If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.

No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)"


This is to my Christian neighbours especially on nairaland that ignorantly saying bad of Allah, His religion and His prophet.

A convenant contradicting the QURAN! impossible convenant

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons, he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home, " (Surah 8:12-)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

", make war on the leaders of unbelief, Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them, " (Surah 9:12-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians], until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

Posted on December 19, 2011

[size=14pt]KANO STATE POLICE COMMAND PARADE BOKO HARAM SUSPECTS[/size]

A raid by a special squad of police from the Bompai headquarters on a compound at Unguwar Dabai, Rijiyar Zaki quarters within Kano metropolis has led to the arrest of Yunusa Ahmed and other items which include bomb detonating head explosives, wires, chemicals and audio cassettes containing the preaching of the killed Mohammed Yusuf, leader of the sect.

Yunusa was also apprehended with arabic books, one fabricated bomb casing, some sacks containing gun powder, two sacks of ammonium nyton used for making bombs, liquid substances and neutral wires.

In a similar raid, house of Mohammed Shaluarmi, who has been declared wanted by the police, was raided and items found therein were one empty gas cylinder, two cartons containing Arabic books, one bag of iron scraps for making bombs, one black polytene bag containing items for bomb making, five bags containing substances for making bomb, 20 sealed bags of substances for making bomb, one international passport bearing Mohammed Usman, one Afribank cheque booklet, two activated explosives, two assembled bombs and 25-litre of jerry can containing chemicals for bomb making.

The house of another suspect, identified as Alhaji Kyari who was arrested by the police, was also searched at the Gwammaja axis of Kano city where one live assembled bomb was recovered.

A suspected member of the sect who noticed unusual presence of police around his residence mobilized his disciples, who drove in three vehicles and gunned down two of the three policemen stationed to act as surveillance on the house according to the Commissioner of Police, Ibrahim Idris.

“(They) also shot to death a policeman attached to Special Anti Robbery Squad who arrived timely for re-enforcement while one other police man was injured now receiving treatment in the hospital,” CP Idris told newsmen this evening, adding that the anger of members of the public was displayed, “when they attempted to mob the suspects but for timely intervention of the police.”

Mr. Idris said “our men on the check point at Diga junction were equally attacked by unknown gun men.

During the incident, one SPY (Special Constabulary) assisting the command in stop and search was killed and one of our police corporal was shot and sustained gunshot injury. Twenty four expended rounds ammunition were recovered at the scene.

He also recalled that on 12 December, “one of our sergeant on a check point duty at Kofar Fomfo was attacked by unknown gunmen in a Honda vehicle and sustained injuries. The sergeant responded and the gunmen abandoned the vehicle and the content and away.

“Searches on the vehicle revealed some AK 47 live ammunition, 9mm and 5.56 ammunition, a laptop computer, 42 pieces of Motorola walkie-talkie model t5.118 and the sum of N58, 000.00K in ten naira denomination,” said CP Idris.

The rifle and cash found in the vehicle was traced to the recently attacked Yobe Police Command and the notes to another raided bank in Kaduna respectively. Attacks Boko Haram claimed full responsibility of.

“Investigations have so far shown that all the suspects arrested or being declared wanted are non-natives or non-indigenes of this state. They are strangers who have made their states inhabitable and have fled to Kano to abuse its hospitality.

“These incidents that occurred in the last few days and the support demonstrated by the indigenes of this state have shown that they have neither sympathy nor affiliation to these groups of individuals. The Command is very appreciative of the support shown by the members of the various communities by giving us information and showing visible anger by the attacks they made on the suspects during the arrests,” CP Idris added.

http://beegeagle./2011/12/19/kano-state-police-command-parade-boko-haram-suspects/

Monday, December 26, 2011
[size=14pt]Christian Woman Killed in Nigeria’s Kaduna State[/size]

Suspected Muslim gunmen shoot her, her husband and his cousin.
KAGORO, Nigeria, December 20 (CDN) — A Muslim villager in Kaduna state allegedly helped Fulani herdsmen and other Muslims from nearby Kafanchan to ambush a Christian settlement, resulting in the death of one woman and gunshot wounds to two other Christians on Dec. 10, area sources said.

Musa Blak, 60, told Compass how gunmen lurking behind trees outside his home killed his wife, Kunam Musa Blak, and wounded him and his cousin, 48-year-old Monday Blai Yayok, after a schoolteacher in Kukum Gida village allegedly helped Muslims survey the site. Kunam Musa Blak was 50.

In the Jankassa ward of Kukum Gida village, a Christian settlement of 425 people who all attend the local Evangelical Church Winning All (ECWA), Musa Blak and his family were asleep when they were awakened by the sound of barking dogs at 11:45 p.m., he said.

“I decided to go outside and find out what was happening,” Blak said. “While outside, I noticed a dark figure standing behind some cactus trees near my house. I neither moved nor said anything, but kept watching to see what this figure would do.”

Hidden behind the trees were Muslim gunmen who had taken positions around the village with the intent of ambushing villagers, he said.

“A few minutes afterwards, the figure moved away quietly, and at this point my wife too came out of the room and met me outside, asking whether I had found anything,” he said. “I then told her about the figure I saw that moved away.”

As he spoke to her, suddenly he heard a gunshot and saw his wife go down.

“I heard the sound of a gunshot, and suddenly I heard my wife crying as she fell to the ground. I tried reaching to hold her when I too was hit by a bullet,” Blak said. “I still struggled by crawling to the place my wife was lying on the ground and held her in my arms even as I was bleeding.”

Awakened villagers trooped out of their houses, he said, and as his cousin, Yayok, stepped out of Blak’s house, he also was shot.

With other villagers streaming out and soldiers stationed at nearby Kagoro, the assailants must have sensed that it would be difficult to overrun the village and withdrew, he said; by the time military personnel received information about the invasion and rushed over, the gunmen had left.

The soldiers transported him, his cousin and his wife’s body to Kafanchan General Hospital, and then Blak and Yayok were referred to Bingham University Teaching Hospital in Jos; there Musa had his bullet wounds treated, and Yayok underwent surgery on Dec. 12.

“We believe that Muslim Fulani herdsmen who once lived near our village, with the support of Muslims from Kafanchan, were the ones who attacked us,” Blak said.

Jonah Bayina, the 43-year-old head of the village ward, identified the Muslim schoolteacher suspected of helping to lead the gunmen to the site in Kaduna state, which has been wracked by several attacks on Christians the past few months.

“Isa Damu, a Fulani Muslim who teaches in one public school here, is the one who led his fellow Muslims to attack us,” Bayina told Compass. “On Tuesday, Dec. 6, he brought some Muslims to the village, and they stayed with him until they left on Friday, Dec. 9, and then they launched the attack on us the following day. We believe he brought the Muslims to enable them to survey our village before attacking us.”


Damu disappeared on the night of the attack, and he has not been seen since, he said.

“His head teacher phoned him, and they spoke, but Damu refused to disclose where he was, nor gave any reasons for absconding from his teaching post,” Bayina said.

A member of ECWA church in Kukum Gida, Bayina said this was the first attack on the Christian settlement, which lies a the bottom of a cliff face rising 50 meters, less than two kilometers from the Kagoro ECWA Theological Seminary.


“Even though this is the first attack on our community, we are now living in fear and uncertainty as regards our safety,” he said. “The incident has now forced us to keep watch over the village at night, as even a day after the attack, that is, on the night of Sunday, Dec. 11, the attackers returned again to attack us, but through resilience and courage and with the help of soldiers who rushed in from Kagoro, we were able to repel the Muslim attackers.”


Blak said that in spite of the murder of his wife, he has been praying for the assailants.
“I have been praying that these Muslims who attack us come to know Jesus Christ as their Savior, too,” he said. “I have forgiven them, because I know they do not know what they are doing.”
He urged Christians to pray for those persecuting them.
“Jesus Christ also did the same while on the cross,” he said.
END

http://persecutedchurchnews..com/2011/12/christian-woman-killed-in-nigerias.html

U ve been so wonderful Lord, i thank you Jesus.

vedaxcool:
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Aya, you are still using that weak thinking humans associate with Christianity? a thinking that think a forsaken man can save them from hell? a thinking that equate murder with love? injustice to sacrifice? cruelty to love? Yeah we still dey laugh unah!

we know the bible talk of piss and lashing, for those my enemies who do not want me to reign upon them bring them here and slay.

A religion which the God they worships requires belief in violence for you to be forgiven! you say Peace or Pisss to that crap! I leave it to you, Christianity requires that before you go to heaven you must believe in a violent death of christ to be forgiven! I ask what sort of failed religion is that? why would any god want worshipers to believe in cruelty and violence before he can forgive them! what differentiate Christianity from a violent and blood thirsty religion in which the god they worship killed himself to forgive people of sins they committed! Kai such a religion can only require sane rational people to stop thinking![/size]

U ur misqouting os that varse make no sense, it has been treated here already. Can u provide an event that practice the verse u just qouted? The actions of Muslims is a result of the Kuran order killing. This u certainly can't refuse.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers], but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."


Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

olasesi:
INVITATION 2 THINK
if muslims have truly been ordered 2 kill christians,why do we av majority of us still left behind, we would all av bombed all the xtians in nigeria

Then you are dinying the QURAN.

[size=16pt]Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29[/size]

[size=16pt]To all Christians in NL[/size]

In the centures, Cults and Sects are growing at a frightenin rate. these groups are drawing in the unwise, sucking in many people who are blinded by false hopes, false promises and false doctrine. The funniest is that.
Many of their claims are rubbish & conflict with biblical truths. Christians we must take the warning of the Holy bible very very seriously. Five (5) key verses at the heart of Christian faith are:

(John 10: v 9; John 14: v 6, Acts 4: v 12, Romans 6 and John 3 v 36 Make sure u read these verses to remain stronge in your faith? Jesus has promised us eternal life, if we keep his words we will reign with him.

Jesus said "I am the door; if any one enters by me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."(RSV)

Jesus answered "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

"Salvation is found in no one else, (only Jesus Christ) for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

", but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."


2 Timothy 4:1-5

1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.
3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

[size=16pt]WE ARE WARNED BY THE SCRIPTURE SO BE BOLD TO FACE ANY CONTRADICTING DOCTRINE[/size]

Islam has done so much harm to mankind.

vedaxcool:
[size=18pt]My Muslims brothers should pity this people, anybody that can believe this can save him

"my lord! my lord why have thou forsaken me"

can say anything! they worship a god that was forsaken, Even Idol worshipers do not conceive their idols as being that weak! but trust Christians they worship a god that was ignorant of the time or season of the year. They worship a god that had to make use of the toilet etc we should continue to expect such weak thinking that at best humans associate with sheep! [/size]

Are the photos above Christianity judgement en earth or Islamic judgement en earth?

A god that ve merci, a God that be the one to condemn his people.
And a god that blame his people, a god that order his people to condemn their fellow brothers to death

Which one is Idol?  Before Muhammed was born to earth, The gospel of Jesus Christ has always been peace and love to the Nation. If Muhammed was sent by this same God to humanity, why the change of doctrine from peace to war, love to hate. We vividly know He was not sent because he does not even fits anything. The bible told us, there is no other prophet to be expected. Absolutely none.Mohammed fail his plans because true Christians hold on to their faith.

Islam can continue to Bomb as many as they want, it wont change the believe.