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No response is given, u ve to refute them each one after the other, are u tired of typing? I tought is was fun for u creating uncalled for arguements? Ur link contain nothing, oya start all over again, This time, u must make sense.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=832290.msg9845539#msg9845539 date=1325017857]Madam yes am i wrong? If pastor Onyakhilome happen to be a church member with the fraud case he is going through wont he plan to bomb the church to cover his secret?[/quote]What are u talking about? u mean the three bomb location was organised by the church priest? U see, u ve a bad view about Christianity. No matter how bad a priest is, the worse they can do is plan to bomb their own members church. see a sky news link, U argue very blindly even when the truth is stock in ur face.

Boko Haram militants claim responsibility for bomb attacks on churches during Christmas Day services across northern Nigeria. http://news.sky.com/home/video/world-news/video/16137276

@tidytim,I though u provided the link now, wht happend.? it has dissapeared?
I got their picture from the page though!

@goggs, well spoken. What i believe God will arest them one after the other in Jesus name.
@Frosbel, can u provide a link plz, thanks.

@goggs, see reason with knight1. I think its better to creat a tread on quran contraditions, like this u can handle @lagosShia one on one.

cisse7575:
The condemnation of Islam just because of Boko Haram recent incidents is totally unfriendly erroneous and uncalled for. Where was it written in the Holy Qur'an to mercilessly kill innocent people in the worshiping houses where the heartless killers claimed it to be the 'way' of Allah? Like I said, ISLAM is a religion of PEACE and if by any chance something evil happen and the doers claimed to fight in the cause of Allah, then they are non believers. Both Koran and Prophet Mohammed Traditions do not permit mass killings.

I'm so sure, we will be all surprised when the wind blow and expose the anus of hens. The internals and externals sponsorers will surprise you. They are the people that condemn Boko Haram most.

READ UR KURAN VERY WELL, BOKO ARE DOING ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF THE KURAN.
@BASHY_DEMY HAS PROVED IT HERE!

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=832290.msg9840521#msg9840521 date=1324948437]So my response make you feel am a terrorist? Boy you need to see your Dr, Your sick[/quote]IF ANYONE CALL U A TERRORIST U MAY NOT BLAME HIM SEE UR RESPONDS TO @judek2 CONCERNING THE BOMB ATTACK. U ARE GRADUALLY SHOWING U ARE A TRUE MUSLIM.

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Re: This Is What Islam Does To You
« #48 on: Today at 05:56:01 AM »
^^^^Monkey you still dey alive? i taught you might have gone with the xmas day bombing as your people want it or are you not member of that church? i know the truth is bitter but i can bet my life that one of the senior pastors of that church have hand in that evil act maybe he has looted the church treasury proof me wrong[/size]

[size=14pt]Two passages in the Koran that comment on Muhammad's "daughters-gate" scandal:

Like King David of the Bible admonishing himself of his own adultery in Psalms 51, Muhammad discusses the "Satanic verses"

"And their purpose was to tempt thee away from that which We had revealed unto thee, to substitute in our name something quite different; (in that case), behold! they would certainly have made thee (their) friend! And had We not given thee strength, thou wouldst nearly have inclined to them a little. In that case We should have made thee taste an equal portion (of punishment) in this life, and an equal portion in death: and moreover thou wouldst have found none to help thee against Us!" (Koran 17:73-75)
"Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower, Wise; That He may make that which the devil proposeth a temptation for those in whose hearts is a disease, and those whose hearts are hardened - Lo! the evil-doers are in open schism" (Koran 22:52-53)[/size]

Deny the worship of the three godesses mr!

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=832032.msg9841016#msg9841016 date=1324965361]^^^^Monkey you still dey alive?i taught you might have gone with the xmas day bombing as your people want it or are you not member of that church? i know the truth is bitter but i can bet my life that one of the senior pastors of that church have hand in that evil act maybe he has looted the church treasury proof me wrong[/quote]After u will deny BOKO is not Islam? your comment just stated it; The people that died wants to die abi? I cry for Nigeria to ve allowed These Arabs in with thier three godesses blood socking god. U can deny it now because it was deleted from  the Kuran.

Here is how the Koran once read with the satanic verses concerning the three godesses:

Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for.

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! (an-Najm 53:19-22)

[size=14pt]Here is how it reads today in the Koran:

Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

[Words of Satan Deleted]

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! (an-Najm 53:19-22)[/size]

The three godesses is Islam.

Joagbaje:
I agree with you.But everybody dint recognize the communion . But Xmas put the name and remembrance of jesus as a stamp from generation to generation.

Do you want Xmas cancelled? I believe the devil is mad enough at it and would want it to be a forgotten story.

How do u mean the BOLD?

Sir i ve no power to stop Christmas, we all do what we feel is right for us. I don't do it any more does not make me condemn those that do it. I just will tell the truth about its unbiblical backup.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=821784.msg9844314#msg9844314 date=1325005371]Where is the Link he gave me? I think you are day dreaming sorry madam no offense[/quote]Its ok sir, was not dreaming u know!

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=821784.msg9844314#msg9844314 date=1325005371]Where is the Link he gave me? I think you are day dreaming sorry madam no offense[/quote]

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Re: Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone!
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Quote from: bashy_demy on Today at 02:31:42 PM
Sorry Madam when a similar attack hit a mosque in Sapele we summon courage and live with it and understand the situation of the country and never blame any religion for the act abi where were u then

When the bomb occurred, who said "IN JESUS NAME WE BOMBED THE MOSQUE" So any incident that happens to you its automatically Christians abi? Believe me if Warri boys wanted you guys out of Warri, it would have happened in a day and I am sure that they will not mince words about it. But that begs the question, will it be done IN JESUS' NAME? No dude. It would be some disgruntled elements angry at happening around the country and believe me CAN will not mince words to condemn that in its entirety. How long have Christian suffered in the North because of this madness. Infact in 2009 in jigawa a policeman shot dead a hawker over the later resisting arrest, the result 10 churches were burnt! Another one, eclipse of the moon in Maiduguri makes muslim youths go berserk and Churches burnt! see herehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1110791.stm

Whats worse the Mosque bombing in Sapele was an internal affair between the Moslem themselves. See here http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/dec/11/national-11-12-2011-002.html and herehttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-11/explosion-in-southern-nigerian-city-of-sapele-injures-two-people.html

coolviv:
Really? So wat makes Ɣ☺Ʊ believe your own church or pastors r not d same ones being quoted in your passages:working wonders n miracles and r yet far from God? R Ɣ☺Ʊ able to tell? D bible does not tell us to have pictures of our parents or weddings and hang them at home to look upon from time to time. Neither does it tell us to make statues of our heroes on strategic street corners in honour of them. So if we can do this in honour of ordinary human beings like us, wat is d beef wit catholics who erect statues of Mary, Joseph, Peter, Paul and other saints in honour of their walk with Christ on earth. Y d issues wit Mary? Y don't pple talk about d images we have of Jesus himself, his apostles, etc?y d particular beef wit Mary? Could it not be as d bible has declared enemity btw her and d devil, her offspring n his own: d devils only defence is to turn pple against her for She is his greatest enemy. The mother of our saviour, our mother. And everyone knows you don't mess with a woman's child in her presence.

IMAGE IS IMAGE, BE IT MARY, PAUL oR JESUS, THEY ALL VE SAME SYMBOLS. U ARE TRYING TO DIVERT THE SUBJECT. THE JESUS CHRIST CROSS CATHOLIC USES TODAY IS ALSO USED BY PAGANISM, THE UPSIDE DOWN CROSS OF PETER IS A TRUE SYMBOL OF OCULTISM, ALL THESE WERE NOT DONE DURING CHRIST APOSTLES DAYS.

IDOL CAME IN THE CHURCH WHEN IT GOTS CORRUPTED BY SOME DEVILISH BISHOPS AND POPES. THEY ALL DID NOT FOLLOW THE TRUE ROOT OF THE CHURCH, TAKE IT OR U LEAVE IT, READ HISTORY ON HOW CERTAIN PRACTICE CAME TO BE ADOPTED IN THE CATHOLIC.


Revelation 22:18-19
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

All these excuses of Honouring images, cross etc etc, are as a result of ignorance concerning Revelation 22:18-19. God clearly say here that, this is the "End". don’t tamper with it. The word of God is now complete.
No more messages from God are to be expected. This is the last message from God to the last of the Apostles. No more prophecies from God will be added. All the excusses given by today Christian to suit their own selfish way of worship is outside the Bible. Be it Catholic, CACG, DEEPER LIFE, GGM etc etc, God says no one should add to his word. You do not ve to be a genius to understand these words.

@LagosShia is not yet a true Muslim, all he is doing is none respect to the Kuran.
The quran teaches you to kill not argue. Muhammed believed killing Christians and Jews will reduce the population of unbelieve of the Kuran. This is a tactics. Muhammed is not fool, even at the point of death, he was still calling his followers to kill kill and kill. Satan must make sure Islam grow. Of course it is growing,. No wonder the bible says,

[size=14pt]Matthew 13“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.[/size]

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=821784.msg9844181#msg9844181 date=1325004070]So who claims responsibility for the 11/12 Sapele Mosque Bombing?[/quote]@goggs (m) has already given u a link to ur answer. We don't asked quetions for asking sake.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=821784.msg9843894#msg9843894 date=1325000641]Maybe you need to read this they answer your comment  Kings 2:23-24

2 Kings 2:23-24:

  23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

  24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
[/quote]You ve sure qouted the bible, very good. Can u show me frequent or recent events that linked has to this verse? Present Pictures and prove of it, that Christians kill in respect of these verse. I presented pictures and facts from the Kuran that ordered the killing by of Christians, this is why u can't just deny it. Ur kuran gave order, the True Muslims obey. If u ve not killed yet, u still ve a long way to go, better turn back from this cult. Do not allow innocent blood to cry after u in secret. Boko groups will soon, i said soon be experiencing the wrath of God one after the other, lets watch.

LagosShia:
[b]John 8:44[/b]You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[size=16PT]Refared to FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMED[/size]

LagosShia:
Muslims do not believe in "father,son and holy spirit" as three gods!!!

you mean like this:

Psalm 137:-9:
"O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction,happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us— he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks".

Revelation 2:22-23:
"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works."  

[size=14pt]No @LagosShia, i mean just this, [/size]

You see what am talking about. When Bomb hit Church you blame it on Muslims so when the same bomb hit Mosque who should the Muslims blame it on? So now are you also saying any incident that happen to you automatically is Muslims abi? you need to wake up and face the truth. Maybe you do not understand the word Extremist. and also Who shout Allahu Akbar when a church was bomb. were you there when they shout Allahu Akbar? any proof to back up your clams?

Even deaf will hear when they shout it, its a normal way of killing or distroying. The Gadafy's case is all on internet. Yes muslim shout Allahu Akbar when they attack.

Boko will never deny they are not responsible for the 25/12, what re u up to in ur arguement?

[size=18pt]living in darkness is Killing people for a three (3) godesses of allah.

you must show love by not killing babies[/size]

Knight1:
since point/question 1 has been tackled, i'll move to number 2. _{(even though i know you will still return to it when you no longer have any point and just want to raise dust)}

i have asked you to always read the chapter at least of the bible verse you want to 'query'.

since you have been known to change words in scripture to suit your position and so i can't trust you, please allow me to post from the KJV the scripture accurately

2Th 2:5  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6  And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Ordinarily, just quoting the passage in context will be sufficient for the objective mind, but i will humour you a little.


GOD HAS PRESENTED UNTO ALL MANKIND THE WAY OF TRUTH AND LOVE, HOWEVER MANY HAVE REFUSED THAT WAY,NOT ONLY DO THEY REFUSE IT, THEY GO TOTALLY THE OTHER WAY OF SIN, WICKEDNESS, FRAUD AND WORST OF ALL, THEY FLAUNT IT!
THIS SCRIPTURE ASSURES US THAT GOD WILL DESTROY THIS SATANIC POWER
Their sin is this: They believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness: they did not love the truth, and therefore they did not believe it; and, because they did not believe the truth, therefore they had pleasure in unrighteousness, or in wicked actions, and were pleased with false notions. Note, An erroneous mind and vicious life often go together and help forward one another. (2.) Their ruin is thus expressed: God shall send them strong delusions, to believe a lie. Thus he will punish men for their unbelief, and for their dislike of the truth and love to sin and wickedness; not that God is the author of sin, but in righteousness he sometimes withdraws his grace from such sinners as are here mentioned; he gives them over to Satan, or leaves them to be deluded by his instruments; he gives them up to their own hearts' lusts, and leaves them to themselves, and then sin will follow of course, yea, the worst of wickedness, that shall end at last in eternal damnation. God is just when he inflicts spiritual judgments here, and eternal punishments hereafter, upon those who have no love to the truths of the gospel, who will not believe them, nor live suitably to them, but indulge false doctrines in their minds, and wicked practices in their lives and conversations.


I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS SO I CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT "QUERY". wouldn't like to be repeatedly drawn back on what i have clearly explained.

Well explained to sir, i wouldn't do better. But mr LagosShia will as usual never fancy the truth.

LagosShia:
thank you sir for your kind explanation.i just need you to further answer my question:

so how do you explain the other verses that God deceives his own prophets and God deliberately preventing people from believing so that they would not be healed?

@LAGOSIA, u should know that, the Kuran copied the bible, all these things u ve posted here make no sense in explaining them. Even in the koran, it says that Allah deliberately puts obstacles in the way of unbelievers to keep them from accepting the truth. If Allah wished, he could provide "the way" to every soul.

[size=14pt]If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance (32:13)[/size]

But, instead he sets a veil over the hearts and coverings over their ears:

[size=14pt]Verily We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this, and over their ears, deafness, if thou callest them to guidance, even then will they never accept guidance. (18:57) See also (17:46) & (45:23)[/size]

I ve discussed this with u before, u must know that the kuran had copied the bible partially, all is to make a self claimed book. If u must accused the bible, u are even accusing the kuran.

The Kuran went as far as saying that Allah even uses chains and barriers to prevent unbelievers from believing:

[size=14pt]Certainly the word has proved true of most of them, so they do not believe.  Surely We have placed chains on their necks, and these reach up to their chins, so they have their heads raised aloft. And We have made before them a barrier and a barrier behind them, then We have covered them over so that they do not see. And it is alike to them whether you warn them or warn them not: they do not believe. (36:7-10)[/size]

For the same purpose, He also sink the hearts of unbelievers with doubt:

[size=14pt]No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand (10:100)[/size]

Do we ve to start refuting your accusations when your book carries more deadly text?
Jesus is lord.

goggs:
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Mankind. including you my friend. Its better than;

(1) Muslims are to murder Jews.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176: Narrated by 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177: Narrated by Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



(2) Muslims are to murder non-Muslims.

Qur'an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.



(3) Muslims are to murder people who left Islam.

Qur'an 4:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.


(4)  Muslims are to murder people they did not trust.

Qur'an 4:091: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.



(5)  Muslims are to murder people they thought to be idolaters.

Qur'an 9:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.



(6) Muslims are to murder people if they thought it was a just cause.

Qur'an 17:033: And do not kill any one whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause, and whoever is slain unjustly, We have indeed given to his heir authority, so let him not exceed the just limits in slaying; surely he is aided.



I would rather a prophet preaching  peace to Mankind; that other people are to be looked upon with compassion - and with the two greatest commandment (Mark 12: 30 -31)

(a) LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART
(b) LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF

And it is shown your neighbour is ANYBODY around you, pagan or not.

In contrast Jesus said "For GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, " (JOHN 3: 16) and again it is writen "While WE WERE YET SINNERS CHRIST DIED FOR US, (Romans 5:

Quran says in Surah 2:190: For Allah loves not Transgressors. Why Should I submit to a God that hates me? I would rather a God that loves me and wants me to turn from sin and has taken the necessary steps for that to be possible


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That is why i ve been saying it, A muslim must kill to obey these listed laws. Anyone who ve not killed yet, I mean those in NL, they are not yet true MUSILM. They must obey this obligations.

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=821784.msg9840433#msg9840433 date=1324946389]Where are the guys, Frosbel,Judek.Plapp,Proo etc to come and refute this claim oooo[/quote]U re happy aren't u? well, i must tell u that refuting is no case for now, the innocent bloodshed in Nigeria recently done by your MOSLIM brothers is still tiring our hearts. How dare U even be the boldess to seek refuting from a provoking thread like this, even with the present state of Christian? Heartless Blood socking islamist

LagosShia:
Nigerians and gentiles nations should leave Jesus (as) alone before it is too late.Jesus (as) has warned you that he was not sent to you and that means he will deny you if you dont desist from claiming to follow him.he will deny you as he said he promised:

Matthew 7:23
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


Jesus Only For Jews:
Matthew 15:22-24
"And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Matthew 10:5-6
"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Matthew 19:28
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Note:
1.) Jesus refuses to attend to a gentile because he was only sent to the Children of Israel.
2.) He warns his disciples not to preach to gentiles.
3.) He said he would judge the tribes of Israel.so who would judge Nigerians?

the christian missionary undoubtedly would conjure up their tricks and bring the below verse as evidence that Jesus said his teachings should be given to all humans:

Mark 16:15-17
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,and preach the gospel to every creature.He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved; But he that believeth not shall be damned".

THE BIG PROBLEM OF CONTRADICTION AND EVIDENCE OF INTERPOLATION!

Aside from the fact that Mark 16:15-17 contradicts the three verses in Matthew which explicitly confirm that Jesus was only sent to/for the Jews,there is also the problem of interpolation or fabrication in Mark Chapter 16.

In all bibles you can think of and check by yourself,Mark Chapter 16 ends at verse no.8. Verses 9-20 are not found in all bibles.verses 9-20 are relegated to a footnote because of lack of "authenticity" for it to be part of the "gospel".here is the reason from the "horse's mouth" that the bible authors themselves give:

Bible versions relegated verses 9-20 of Mark Chapter 16 to a footnote.then they give the reason why:

“The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9–20”
http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm

HOW IS IT UR HEADACH IF HE DENIES US? ISN'T IT BETTER FOLLOWING SOMEONE THAT WILL DENY U, THAN SOMEONE THAT WILL TEACH U HOW TO KILL OTHERS WITH BOMB? WASH OUT THE DIRTY FROM UR EYES SO THAT U CAN SEE MY DEAR!

Joagbaje:
It's still a thing of Honour to Celebrate it. It's a global official Recognition  of he king. If it's done away with . The world may forget. That's what Satan wants,  Let the name of Jesus be proclaimed in every nation.

Do u really believe the world celebrate it as Christ birth? If the bible is not enough for Christians to remember Christ each passing day, then we are not genuinelly following him.
We were taught to follow Christ footstep. Did Christ observed the birth of any of the Past prophets?

1 Peter 2:21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. If He (Christ) nor his disciple never ever observed his birth as a great importance in the human heart, then We are over doing things.

The church today is rejecting some of Christ steps, by adopting traditions. All Satan wants, is for us to danse to his tone, and do things as he wishes. Sure, He gives us genuine reasons why we should hold on to Christmas tradition. During the last supper Jesus told us things, and gave us the way in which we can remember him.

(Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

I tell u that, each time this takes place in the gardering of Gods people, Satan will be angry.
Is this not enough for us to remember him? must we add to it. Well, everyone has heard, the word of God is not to be modified for any reason. That is how i understand it.

bodee:
I am really happy with this post the reality or the big issue there is that christmas has the origin of idolatry now what do we do during christmas partying merrying drinking,ladies putting on provocative clothes.Are we then celebrating the birth of Christ?

That is the issue, U can't change the origin of this feast, the best is to leave it for the original owners. There are many things We should occupy our minds with than observing Christmas feast that can never be traced in the bible, Why do people find it difficult to do away with Christmas? there must be something unique about it.

Image123:
This should not cause unnecessary rancour every christmas. All things are of God, do you believe that? And then
"One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind." (Romans 14:5).
It's not celebrating christmas or not that makes us acceptable to God. It matters though that we do all things to the glory of God. Let your celebration or mourning(if you choose) glorify God, not man. And don't force your persuasions down others' throats along with sweet chicken. Be safe.

U are right, but the issue of Christmas is a Man's tradition that was transformed to Gods, and it was made universal to the people of God. Ve you asked yourself why Pagans still keep the traditions of this feast? why has it not totally becomes a pure Christian feast?

I know that Christmas is very sacred to countless millions, but doesn't this makes it look in the dark about what's actually is in the Bible, and what's not?.

U can't trust someone else to do ur thinkin' and studying for u. U ve a personal responsibility to God to earnestly seek the truth, and to not ignore God if u sense he's calling you back to the scripture to find his truths there.
A date is fixed as Christ birth 25/12, Both Christians and Pagans enjoy this Date. Yet Christians feel very confortable with it.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15

Ve we taken our time to search if well known bible figures birth dates were recorded? The only two cleared birthdays mentioned in the bible, Was Pharaoh’s wish leads to put his baker to death (Gen. 40:1-23). and King Harod’s, In verse six (6), it told that Herod got carried away and eventually made a promise that he did not want to keep. As a result, a great servant of God lost his life. John de Baptist (Matt. 14:3-11). The two recorded may be as a warning to us.

There is also one last account is found in the book of Job. the Bible says that Job’s seven sons “went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them” (Job 1:4). These parties were obviously not centered around any kind of celebration related to God, or Job would not ve worried that his children may have sinned during these celebration feasts.
The act of celebrating ones birthday may not be wrong or sinful if done in Glorifying God. Thanking Him for adding to our age as he has promised us in Ephesians 6:1-3.

Abraham is referred to three times in the Bible as God’s “friend” (II Chron. 20:7; Isa. 41:8; Jms. 2:23). He is also called “the father of us all” (Rom. 4:16). Yet the Bible does not record the birth date of this truly great servant of God. That will play a great role en earth here, on Christ second coming when the kindgom of God will be established.

Moses was referred to as the meekest man on the face of the earth (Num. 12:3). Many verses describe this Bible figure and virtually everyone is familiar with him. The Bible does not tell us when he was born either.

Famous King David is called “a man after My [God’s] own heart” (Acts 13:21-22). Much of the Bible describes the life of this man. God used him to record a great many of the Psalms. When the kingdom of God is established on earth, prophecy records that he will rule the tribes of Israel (Ezek. 34:23-31), called there the house of Israel. Surely the Bible records the date that this towering figure was born? It does not!

There is not one verse of Scripture describing anyone celebrating the births of these righteous men. In fact, the Bible is silent on the exact dates of the births of all God’s faithful servants Jacob, Sarah, Noah, Abel, Samuel, Job, Esther, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Peter, Paul, James (Christ’s brother), and the rest of the apostles.

Even the birth date of Jesus Christ which became what both Pagan and Christians hold firm to as must do, is still unrecorded in the Bible!. So why should we truelly claim this as if its Biblical? Do we ve to tolerate the fun of Christmas by ignoring what the bible teaches about Men's traditions?.? Jesus warns us about following man's traditions anyway, its left for us to be fond of the bible: "This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." (Mark 7:7-9)

numo86:
most times professed christians forget that they r suppose to be followers of Jesus steps and not followers of there presumpteousness self, the commemorations d isrealites observed that was in connection with d temple and with judaism back then ranging from d pass over,unfermented cakes,sabbath,first fruits and d rest were all commandments from God to d isrealites, there was never a time d isrealites wuld engage in a religious celebration that was out of Gods mandate if not that'l incur death, because celebrations involvin judaism dat had any pagan trait spelled destruction for d isrealites, even d isrealites never celebrated there own birthdays let alone tink of organisin 1 for d messiah who had longed lived in heaven for billions of years b4 comin to d earth, we still tink of our lord as a little baby, Jesus birth has no significance for christians because it wasnt d 1st time he was existing, it is his death that means a lot to mankind and that is d only means thru which we culd gain salvation, that is why Jesus gave d command wit his own mouth that we commemorate his death and ofcus his death day is shown in d bible, mary his mother,d apostles,early christians all never celebrated xmas, we are not d 1st christians to ever exist, apostle paul @ ephesians chapter 2 verse 20 & 21 said all christians shuld be built up on d foundation of d prophets,d apostles and on Jesus d chief corner stone, so all d traditions of d apostles who were d co-founders of christianity are wat we shuld be imitatin n doin, xmas was never in that box, even paul warned early christians @ galatians 4:9 & 10 not to scrupulously continue to observe days & months & seasons & years, he called that attitude weak and beggarly elementary things, even d sabbath,d first fruit celebration were things d early christians gradually abandoned after d death of Jesus, and here we are borrowin a pagan celebration to commemorate christ birth which he himself never celebrated nor commanded nor begged his followers to celebrate on his behalf, because a pope in the 3rd century after d death of d apostles chose dec 25th d date for d birthday of d sun god to commemorate d birth of Jesus doesnt make it wholesome, d pope was never a foundation of d church, d bible we hav enlightens us on all we need to know, d same way xmas started and has nw become profound in d church is how gradually gay marraige is been accepted and soon to become trivialised and generally accepted in years to come, if d bible never mentioned d date of Jesus birth and even d births of many servants of God in d bible like abraham,noah,david,solomon and all of them it shuld tel a lot of professed christians smetin important, it shows that birthday celebrations was sometin that never existed amongst servants of God startin from abel to d early christians , not until d catholiks came wit this wahala that d whole world of christendom is now followin, i mean why cant people just for once follow there masters foot steps??, its not like we cant as individuals come together to hav a good time, but why put Jesus in d middle when it has notin to do with him??and especially when its pagan, suger coatin a pagan holiday to make it christian defeats christianity, these are 1 of d reasons why christianity means notin to many like pagans and atheist, its no longer a serious thing jus d way it started, many atheists and pagans celebrate xmas just as a secular holiday when they'l be able to hav much time to flex and engage in self indulgence & immorality and not as a christian mandated holiday, it has nt stopped them from bein pagans, like a researcher ones said, "christianity never destroyed paganism,it rather adopted it", Jesus was and is not part of xmas, every celebrant is @ his/her own risk, Jesus never begged for this and he will in the end disown works and celebrations that never originated with him, let us take note of this that traditions of men have notin to do with Jesus nor his heavenly Father, we shuld be very skeptical about these so called religious celebrations, if they are not biblical then they shuldnt in anyway be connected to Jesus, because Jesus is holy and notin unholy shuld be tagged to him, celebrate d xmas but know Jesus is never in it,

Honestly well said. May God bless the mouth in which these words came out.

A warning that was given in the beginning of the bible was alse given at the ending of it.
This shows how important this warning is.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Revelation 22:18-19"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this Book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this Book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this Book".

Christmas is a universal feast, u see People feasting, drinking, singing carols, others do it as praising God, getting together with family in partying and exchanging gifts in celebration of the birthday of the Jesus. We must know that this feast has two bobies, despite the name. Catholic/christians do it as in form of blessing God, the pagans do it as in form of embracing all sort of dirty habits as in Adultery, alcoholic etc. But a the end of it, do we find ourselve doing samething as the pagans? all this was taking place many years before Jesus was even born!

History told us that, Christmas was celebrated by immoral, pagan idol worshippers, people who many times sacrificed their children to pagan gods roughly 2,000 years before Christ was born. December 25th a date originally that marked the time of the winter solstice. These idol worshippers held pagan festivals to celebrate the “rebirth” of the sun when the days began to lengthen. The story goes a long way, how it was later changed to Christ birthday. Everyone has to do research. I was once a Christmas fan then when i wasn't aware of its unbiblical backed up.

Sweetnecta:
I am Muslim, i am not boko, as you said.

you 'kid' didn't read where i said i almost lost my wife to boko; blind bat thinking.

As an adult, u should understand in my reply that i read it, that is why i said allah was blind to fight against himself? U cannot lose ur wife to boko becaue u are same. Imagin me say a fellow christian almost kill my hubby .

Tell me, how many Mosque ve boko bombed since the existance of boko??

Sweetnecta:
@Plappville; i am actually addressing kid, the kid above, because the verse she quoted is addressed to the prophet [as], in the time of hardship in Madina. That was over 1,400 years ago. The messenger [as] has finished his mission, and he has died, since.

No no no, the mission still continues, prove was yestarday and always!

[size=16pt]Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29[/size]