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my friend you've met the wrong audience for your foolishness!

if you accept that story/hadith happened at all,[b]why do you follow your blind desire and hate to accept the part of it that suits your fantacies while you reject the other part that doesn't suit you? is that fair? [/b]the funnier part is that you base your conclusion on imagination.and besides,the story doesn't say he was "killed".it says he died.and then the earth rejected his body.and besides if any fantastic discovery of falsehood was found about Muhammad (sa) or observed in him,the first that would have rejected him and even harm him are the arabians who were a violent people.

The bolds are what u do with the bible. U re crying here, nothing suits me in the kuran.
The christian man was killed by spiritual power.his death occured because he left Islam and was telling people what he saw in Islam. That man was a Christian before, can u imagin the bible study Muhammed had earned from that man? Someine who helped him in writhing things. Whaoo i see why some of the Kuran quotes look similar as the Bible. It is sad they killed that
man. Islam has been, once u join us, u no longer leave, why becos u know all our secrets. If u must leave u must die. True or false @lagosShia?

LagosShia:
you're the one exposing yourself!

he must have serious eye problem! take him to an optician ASAP.or may be you need a psychiatrist for not detecting he is trying to make you feel good about yourself.

Funny!

The Quran is not for ur type: lucky me hahahahhaah
Do u think i should face the bible only? Why do u face the bible when u ve ur kuran?

LagosShia:
Holy Quran 53:18
"For truly did he (Muhammad) see the greatest Signs of his Lord!

What are the signs, the symbles that shows the presence of God before him?

simply because there is no source other than arabic or islamic source on the early movement of Islam in arabia.

in the Quran,aside from miracles there is also prophecy.you should try and search for knowledge.whatever i present here you'd most likely not appreciate because you'd see it as something obtained "cheaply".:u are right.

put in the effort.if you put in half the effort of misleading others in your ignorance to know the truth and understanding the deep and thought provoking meanings of the Quran,you'd be a better person than you are and even your husband will appreciate you more andhave high regard for you.the are the provoker, i am not here to provoke but to expose. Some souls are lost out of ignorant, lets freedom of expression speak to the hearts of people.

I wonder why muslims like bringing in family in general discussion, do u know me? No.
U will not make me look as if i'm brag, if i tell u how i am appreciated it will bug ur heart. He reads most of ur insults and tells me, i discuss with irresponsible fellows. Someone tht doent know u, can tell u about ur hubby , it just shows how blindly u defend islam. Know something before defending it Mr.

now you claim and repeat the pagan suspicion and missionary lie that Muhammad (sa) was learned and studied the bible (to explain his miraculous being.but the Quran explicitly denies that he was learned and no one in his time and among his contemporaries ever doubted the fact that he was unlearned which is another miracle in itself:

Holy Quran 29:48
"And you did not recite before it any scripture, nor did you inscribe one with your right hand. Otherwise the falsifiers would have had [cause for] doubt".

Who is the kuran? What happened to the christian writer that decided to leave Muhammed? Why was he killed? Inorder not to exposed some agenda? If the man had decided to leave is becos he found some tales in Muhhamed. Today, the story was changed and raped as one of his miracles. Look at ignorant world, they will all believe my tales.

Moses split the sea  and Muhammad (sa) split the moon.the bible records those of Moses and the Quran records those of Muhammad (sa).

God spoke to Moses and God also spoke to Muhammad (sa).God promised Moses to put his words into the mouth of Muhammad (sa) in deut. 18:18.Moses (as) freed his people from slavery and so did Muhammad (sa) also freed his people from mental slavery and the bondage of idolatry.

Plz stop These tales, just like Muhammed ve claimed he knew things of the bible more than the people of the bible.
So, do people of the bible know his tricks on miracles performed by him. Apart from the Kuran, what other history recored his Moon spliting?

Her statements might have been misconstrued as she clearly lacks proper English language composition.this may slightly be true.

However, she showed no aggression or violence [/b]that would warrant the reply and physical abuse that she got.Satan operates intelligently, if her aim was to distroy the church, she will appear the most innocent, tht no one will ever suspect her.

[b]This is a clear case of abuse. i agree with u!

Oyedepo is a coward for bullying an innocent person that seemed to have come to him for help/prayer/deliverance.
Would Jesus have slapped that poor girl?NO sir, he no were did he teaches abuse or violence no matter the situation.

The MOG's action was not Christlike, he must be regreting it by now. As for the girl, she may have some hidden agenda.

if you want to know more about the Quran say so.do not distort the meanings of those verses.

God is capable of guiding anyone.the verses you are quoting simply tell you of the power of God to make you believe like a robot if He so wills.

the verses also inform you that there are disbelievers so evil that God Himself has justly punished them by making sure they do not believe because they are evil.


let me show you verses of the Quran that clearly show that it is in the hands of man to do good and evil and to believe or disbelieve:


Surah 29:69
"As for [b]those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good".

Surah 25:57
"Say: I ask of you no reward for this, save that whoso will may choose a way unto his Lord.

Surah 45:22
"And Allah hath created the heavens and the earth with truth, and that every soul may be repaid what it hath earned.And they will not be wronged.

Surah 2:26
"Lo! Allah disdaineth not to coin the similitude even of a gnat. Those who believe know that it is the truth from their Lord; but those who disbelieve say: What doth Allah wish (to teach) by such a similitude ? He misleadeth many thereby, and He guideth many thereby; and He misleadeth thereby only miscreants;

Surah 14:27
"Allah confirmeth those who believe by a firm saying in the life of the world and in the Hereafter, and Allah sendeth wrong-doers astray. And Allah doeth what He will".

@LagosShia, i did nt misqoute those verses, they meant Allah puts a block to prevent them of understanding. He wished to fill hell with enough men, i even saw that 99.9% of people in hell are women. As young as the kuran is to the torah/bible, Its writtens are horrible i must say that.

LagosShia:
Exodus 33:20
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live".

"plappvile" ou are blabbing nonsense.:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-825291.0.html#msg9766032

But his presence was seen in symbols like:God reveal himself to Moses with the burning bush (Ex. 3:2-15)
(Gen. 19:1-13, 33). God went before the Hebrews as they traversed the wilderness. What they saw was the pillar of cloud and the pillar of fire.

(Ex. 13:21-22). God entered into and dwelt in the holy of holies of his tabernacle. But what the high priest saw was the Shekinah or glory of the Lord, the bright shining light that was the symbol of his presence in their midst.

(Ex. 40:34-35).
While on Mt. Sinai Moses asked God, "Show me thy glory. And (God) said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and he said, Thou canst not see my face; for man shall not see me and live, and thou shalt see my back: but my face shall not be seen"

(Ex. 33:18-23). When God spoke to Moses "face to face" He spoke as "a man unto his friend," i.e., familiarly.

God dont hid his presence from his people.

Mohammed claimed he saw Angel Gabriel, not God.

Merci mon Papa pour me donner ta pouvoir de te suivre tout les jours.

LagosShia:
so do you expect me to believe what you say or to read for myself and make my own conclusion?

you mentioned so many of the miracles said to have being performed by the Prophet Muhammad (sa) even one mentioned in the Quran.this is what you said:

and what do you mean by "God divine miracles statistic"? [b](Mohammeds miracles if at all they are true, are of less quentity. A divine miracle are uncountable.[/b]

I didn't see in ur holy book miracles performed by him only "one" and each time we qoute other Islamic book, u muslims always refused their authenticity. And these are the books tht seem to mentioned that Muhammed at least, performed some miracles with his followers as eye-withnesses

LagosShia:
Is It Every Man That Produces Miracle A True Prophet?

Matthew 24:24
"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible".This were Muhammed fits in, this verse and some other verse in the bible told it.""""The expulsion of a liar's corpse by the Earth"" isn't this a great miracle

Matthew 16:4
"A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away".

1 Corinthians 1:22
"Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom"

The prophet with semilarity like Moses must possesed Gods devine miraclous power to prove his prophecy is devine. Mohammed in no way, according to your kuran did no miracles of such.

Moses spoke to God and followed his commands. He led the people out of Egypt and witnessed "many" miracles in the wilderness. Moses built the Ark of the Covenant as God commanded and received the ten commandments

I will not start posting his miracles over and over again, u know better.

Before Muhammed came to earth, the bible has spoken of Jesus been spoken of by Moses.
Muhammed studied the bible, He saw that the prophecy was not him in anyway. He tried all technics to fix himself, but he couldn't, he failed in many ways, he knew the only way he could  decieve people is to tarnish the bible of been corrupt. This bible words still remains, despite his tricks. Acts 3:20-22, regarding Jesus, it states:

[size=14pt](Acts 3:20-22“)And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: (21) Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. (22) For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.”[/size]

@ OP, a very interesting question,of which no being can know!

But i would suggest, God is everywhere. God's activities befor creating the heavens and the earth are not known.
He is the beginning and the end. meaning he had no beginning nor ending.

Does God exist? Here are six straight-forward reasons to believe that God is really there.

By Marilyn Adamson

Just once wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists.

But first consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Photographs of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks, all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon.

When it comes to the possibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God.1 On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he is there, he says, "You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart, I will be found by you."2 Before you look at the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, If God does exist, would I want to know him? Here then, are some reasons to consider,, follow link for complete article.

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

I had a serious ear pain that could lead to visiting the hospital. The night was rough that i couldn't sleep with the side i was having the pain. I called to myself, the bible says, by the stripes of Jesus, i am healed, Mt.8:14: “Himself took our infirmities and bear our sickness.” I place my hand and i prayed, it was so believeable because he healed me.I didn't ve to explain to anyone how painful, but i was able to say, a miracle took place inside my house. God is good all the time. Halelluyaaa!

[size=16pt]But allah could ve spoken mouth to mouth or face to face like he did to Moses [/size]

The Koran reports no signs and wonders of Muhammad. The Bible/Torah recorded Moses did multiple signs and wonders? as allah became weak with Muhammed to prove deut:18:18?

"Say: I am not the first of the apostles, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner. Say: Have you considered if it is from Allah, and you disbelieve in it, and a witness from among the children of Israel has borne witness of one like him, so he believed, while you are big with pride; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people" (Sura 46:9-10).

[size=16pt]Tatooage is demonicpt[/size]

The Bible warns us against tattoos in (Leviticus 19:28) which says, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

TATTOOING HAS WITCHCRAFT "ROOTS"

In addition to the above verse, Scripture also warns us not to disfigure our bodies in following verses:

1 Kings 18:28: "And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them."

Deuteronomy 14:1(Amplified): "Ye are the sons of the LORD your God; you shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead."

When it speaks here about doing this in relation to the dead; this was a witchcraft rite done to mourn or remember their dead. Therefore tattooing, cutting one's body and shaving one's head in defiance have their origin in witchcraft practices.  Tattoos have their "roots" in witchcraft. Many young people today are doing these very things because of some evil witchcraft influences in their lives that they are unaware of.   They do not realize that partaking of these can open the door to wrong and defiling influences in their lives. Evil videos, depraved rock music albums, wicked Internet games and violent movies are displaying evil trends in order to destroy our youth. Satanic tattoos, skin heads and other cultic rites are opening many of our children to demonization.

This is what makes it spiritually dangerous for people. People do not realize displaying a satanic mark or symbol can open the door for Satanic attack which allows the enemy entrance in their lives. It is not the mark itself, but rather the sin behind it. Today this practice is growing because of the spread of False Religions. Some people are so hideously covered with tattoos that their appearances look evil. Others, only have small tattoos that they believe are trendy or artistic.

This words are not meant to hurt or offend those that have tattoos, but rather to help people avoid getting tattoos that later on they might regret it.

Now on this tell me who put the Amen in the intercourse between Abraham and Hagar? Abraham has been phocking Sarah for more than 60yrs and no fruit from there labor. why is it that it is when he [b]meet Hagar and phock hagar [/b]that God answer his prayer, wish mean Ishmael is Covenant child too if not he wont be born at all. But God only want to make Sarah happy that was why he gave them Isaac so Abraham has 2 kids from different mother's, saying one child is covenant and one is not is a silly saying, tell among the kids you have for your hubby wish one is covenant and wish one are not?

Very dirty way of talking, until u use a more decent language, i ve no responds for this question.

Sahih Bukhari , Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:

Narrated Anas:

There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground).

Very interesting miracle from Muhammed

This is a verse that gives instruction in how to confront an elder (pastor) who is sinning. False teaching is sin, therefore it should be dealt with publicly ("in the presence of all,"


1 Timothy 5:19-21 (NKJV)
19 Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses. 20 Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.
21 I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the elect angels that you observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing with partiality.

1 Timothy 5:20)Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear

Rich4god:
I believe in One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. I was born a catholic, i am still a catholic and i will die as a catholic.

And what has this got to do with the first question u asked me? i gave u my answer, u came here in silence and qoute urself. U are free of course to die anywhere u wished, no one here is forcing anyone, we say what we know is against the word of God. Ur mind will judge u if u want.

it is really interesting you have denied Paul as "someone chosen".as far as i know the books of Paul constitute the bigger bulk of the new testament.books about the life of Jesus are only said to be four out of 27 books and refered to as the "gospels".and Paul's books are believed to be inspired by God just as the other books which allegedly represent the words of God and of Jesus.so if you are denying that Paul was chosen,i must commend you because that is a great success and a huge step forward in seeing the truth and abandoning christianity.from even the words of Paul you would know he was a liar! in one place he would claim inspiration while in another he says he was only giving his opinion.so congrats "plappville".

How did i denied Paul? i asked u a question, u refuesd to answere and twisting it that i denied Paul, scroll back and see if it was a question that deserves yes or no or even other method of answer.

LagosShia:
again you are mistaking what Jesus taught for what christianity says or holds.Jesus ofcourse taught what was right and fulfilled the old testament laws which christians today deny.

U your the one using your false quran to condenm what Jesus teaches, Muhammed cant know better than Jesus apostles.  he has put his evil interpretation in the hearts of muslims, they are spirituallyt blind by his tricks.

LagosShia:
we as muslims do not deny Jesus.i was responding to someone who was saying that muslims search the bible for prophecies while he forgets that christians do likewise with the jewish old testament.yet the jews dont believe in Jesus.

also citing prophecies and quoting scripture at one end and plagiarism at the other end are two different things.

Was he wrong to ve said that? NO. when u say Jewish old testament, dont forget this is the same book our lord Jesus Christ used. He taught them in the temple, sure it was not with the quran. So we are his followers with all authority owns the book used by Jesus. We dont go to the kuran, because we ve no interest in it. If u search the bible, then u only prove how weak
your book is, a true Muslim should burn the bible, not mention holding it and even finding islam in it.

Jesus=Bible=Christianity=Christian
Muhammed= Kuran=Islam=muslim
All that we need to know who the enemies of Christ are, are in the scripture.

Galatians 1: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. (2 John 9)

Jeremiah 23:16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

These few are enough for u to know we know the truth, no matter how Muhammed has twisted it.

LagosShia:
talk to your bible!

(John 1:11)"He came unto his own (people,the Jews), and his own (people,the Jews) received him not".

the vast majority of jews rejected him and up to this day no jew believes in Jesus.any jew that does becomes an "unbeliever".

[b]those few that did in his days were outcast and persecuted.[/b]so what are you trying to hide?anything you say would be against your bible which says clearly that his people rejected him.

The Jews that accepted Jesus were not out cast, they on thier own differed from those Jews that refused to believe. They cant believe in Jesus and be equal yoke with those that didn't believe.

Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?.
We all know that, the largest number re those that rejected him, majority win the wrong vote.

Ur claim hat no Jew believe in Jesus today is cpmpletely wrong and hate for Jesus. I do visite Jews christian online website, they do evangelism, campagne for Jesus etc. I forbid ur tricks.

aletheia:
^You ought not to bother. You know Islam and factual history are strange bed-fellows. Fanciful fairy tales is what they revel in. The irony of this discussion is that they ignore the history of Alexander's Empire (whom they claim for themselves as Dhul-Qarnayn).

The holy book cant make mistakes, Dhul-Qarnayn died a riped old, a great history contradicting 

At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"
Sura 19:27-28
And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, . Sura 66:12

[size=16pt]What a faulty reasoning[/size]

LagosShia:
you have claimed thousands of prophecies in the old testament about Jesus.yet not one jew believe that the jewish messiah is Jesus,son of Mary (as).not ""one jew"" believe in Jesus

you new testament cries out in disappointment:

"He came unto his own (people,the Jews), and his own (people,the Jews) received him not".(John 1:11)

U ve forgotten that Jewish has different groups during Jesus days? there were the Herodians,Pharisees,ScribesJohn the Baptist group, even during John the Baptist lifetime and for several centuries after, certain groups of people considered themselves followers of John the Baptist, some of them became Christians, but others maintained that John was earlier and more important than Jesus.

There were the followers of Jesus as groups, although they starting with smaller numbers of Jews in Galilee and Judea then, those who believed in Jesus grew over the decades, by the means of spreading "Jesus Movement" to other nations, cultures, and languages throughout the ancient Mediterranean, The Jews sure believed He was the messiah, but not the entire nation does.

(John 1:11)"He came unto his own (people,the Jews), and his own (people,the Jews) received him not".

Will not ve been said by Jesus if all the Jewish nation had accepted him.

Take  your time to read these verses and know if no JEW accepted JESUS.

During his public ministry, Jesus had many "disciples"; he chose some (Mark 1:16-20; 2:13-14), while others came to him (10:17-31).
Since he was an itinerant preacher, people literally "followed" him as he journeyed throughout Israel (Mark 2:15; Luke 9:57-62).
He also sent some of them out as "missionaries" or "apostles" (twelve in Mark 3:13-19; 6:6-13; seventy in Luke 10:1-20).
After his death, his disciples and relatives formed a community of believers soon joined by others (Acts 1:13-15; 2:37-47; 6:7; 9:31).
At first, all the disciples of Jesus were Jews, but later they were also joined by Gentiles (Acts 11:1-21; 12:24; 14:1; etc.).

LagosShia:
you christians search the Jewish old testament and have even included it in your christian bible for prophecies about Jesus.

you have claimed thousands of prophecies in the old testament about Jesus.yet not one jew believe that the jewish messiah is Jesus,son of Mary (as).not one jew believe in Jesus with all the stories christians tell and all the prophecies they spot in the jewish old testament.

[b]U dont know  that Jesus' teaching was based upon the OT as God's word and upon Himself as the only Son of God? Jesus drew info from the OT (the Torah) and placed himself in relation to the OT law, Prophets and writings as the only one who had authourity to teach their meaning.

Jesus applied the prophecies to himself see (Luke 4:18), He made it clear tht he had come to fulfill the law. see (Matt.5:17-20) when he spoke of his death and resurrection He referred to the 'Sign of Jonah' this is in: (Matt.12:39-40). He also proved to others "the Scriptures concerning Himself" see (Luke 24:27). Jesus demonstrated thet he had a unique position in relation to the OT Scriptures. He was "Lord of the Sabbath" see (Mark 2:28) and he introduced a new 'standard' tht was superior to what was revealed in the OT "example".

"You ve heard it said,  I tell you, "see (Matt.5). Jesus permited the foods forbidden in the Law of Moses1. However, Jesus was a Jew and his attitude to the law simply represented a different point of view, though he still stood within the Jewish tradition, he never let it down. Jesus neither rejected the Law nor did he rightly disregard any of its commands. If he breaks them he does so in the special interest of something greater than the Law, and that is (HIM)

Jesus surely came with somethig greater. he destroyed not the Law, but the works of the Devil. (Matt 5:17 He fulfilled it and was made under the Law (Gal.4:4) Jesus charged his disciples to preserve the law (Matt.5:19). Jesus was not what the people see think of him, He was more, He reads their hearts, Christ knew the hearts of the so-called 'Law keepers' who saw their righteousness in the law. their priority was on the external Godliness.

God was, and is, concerned with internal Godliness. What Christ came with was the ability to allow men to be Godly inside. he alone knew that the requirements of the law could never be kept. a mans's righteousness is through the salvation which Christ only purchased. The law was in his hands, he had it and still ve it. He made good use of the old testaments prophecies and we as believers hold firm to this.

And he (Jesus)charged him to tell no man: but go, and show yourself to the priest, and offer for your cleansing, ""according as Moses commanded,"" for a testimony to them.[/b]

So if our lord God made use of the old testament, what stoped us from it?

LagosShia:
anty Plappville is still lost!

all your thousand words in the above is due to a simple misunderstanding:

you mix Jesus and the prophets of God with christianity and what christians believe.

trinity,begotten son of god,salvation by blood,and the rest of the BS were not taught by Jesus.

try to separate between what christians believe and what Jesus taught.then you will know that when Muslims tell you we respect and honor Jesus,Jesus is truly innocent of your pagan christian beliefs that came to be after Jesus.so please do not attribute falsehood to the true prophets of God.

we muslims honoring the prophets of God have nothing to do with our opposition to pagan doctrines christians believe in.

you are deceitfully supposing that Jesus represents what christians believe in.and sorry to disappoint you but Jesus did not found christianity,Paul and the earlly fathers of the roman catholic church did!

And was Paul Gods chosen? We do believe what Jesus believed, Muhammed has no knowledge of what he stated in the kuran. What does he even know that JESUS believed? anyone that condemn christianiny, equally condemn Christ, likewise whoever that condemn Islam, like me, condemn Muhammeds prophecy.

Jesus =christianity
Muhammed=Islamic
Get this correct sir!

@LagosShia:i must bring to your attention that none of the prophets mentioned in the bible up to Jesus claimed that or named the religion of God to be "judaism" or "christianity".to us Muslims,we believe Islamic teachings preceeded Muhammad (sa) because whatever the previous prophets taught we believe in them and the Quran orders us to love and respect them.

If the bold is true, then u and @bashy-demy and co-muslims of NL ve been disobeying ur prophet. You people ve said Jesus sinned, and that he couldn't saved himself, insulted the trinity to be fake etc.  how then u claim in ur post that the kuran ordered u to love and respectpreviews prophets??  Even ur kuran stated that other religion are cursed, u are here lieing.

quran(9:30)  The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

To respect is to accept them as they believe, why cursing them because they disbelieve u?

quran (5:72-73). : They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

Mohammed is saying here that Jesus want christians to forbid his teaching and turn to Islam, where did he see Jesus?

kuran (10:68-69)They say: "Allah hath begotten a son!" - Glory be to Him! He is self-sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! say ye about Allah "what ye know not?"

This is all about the "Trinity'", If Muhammed himself refused Christ as the son of God filled with the Holy spirit, then how does the kuran ordered Muslims to respect previews prophets oooo @LagosShia? am sorry but i want to believe either u or the muhammed or both of u are contradicting each other with lies, Islam has no single respect for other belief, islam is hate, discremination, this has caused distruction to humanity.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the "Jizya" with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (kuran 9:29)

("Jizya" is said to be the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)

Quran 4:47) - O you (Jews) who have been given the "Book" (torah"! ""believe that which We have revealed"", verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath (Christians), and the command of Allah shall be executed.

Bukhari (59:727) - Allah's Apostle [said], "Allah's curse be on the Jews and the  Christians"  This was spoken on Muhammad's death bed, and was one of the last things that he ever said.(hatred in the air.

Allah cursed Christians yet allah practice is in the book of the cursed. It means the practice u claimed is cursed as well.

LagosShia:
the peak of dishonesty!

why still go ahead to address and quote my post that is not the immediate last post in which i gave detailed explanation?

I qouted it at the time i saw it, nothing like dishonesty broda!