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Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 10:56am On Dec 22, 2011

[size=16pt]Matt 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
KJV

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
KJV

2 Peter 2:1
there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord
KJV

1 John 4:1
try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
KJV[/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 10:47am On Dec 22, 2011

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Why are your hearts crying in shame and ignorance? U ve been promised salvation if only u accept Jesus.
It is clear, after Jesus no other, He only can give you the access to God.
Muhammed, J. Smith, Momoh etc etc, are all False. these verses spoke about them all.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Timothy 4:1)

Acts 20:28-30 (NET)
20:28 Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son. 29 I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.[/size]

I will continue to give u words from the scripture that clearly told us about all other false doctrines of today. No matter how u try to twist your doctrines, the bible knew it will rise, so we ve the knowledge, it is wast telling believers of Christ about your tricks, we know them.

Christianity Etc › Believers, Which Do U Belong? by plappville(op): 10:29am On Dec 22, 2011

Article by By David J. Stewart

"The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." —Proverb 11:30

The Soulwinner's Heart

First, nothing means anything if you don't have a DESIRE to see people saved. Jesus commanded His disciples in Matthew 28:19 to “GO” into all the world preaching the Gospel. Every Christian is commissioned by the Lord to “GO.” Most churches never get beyond the word “GO.” All the Bible knowledge and eloquent speaking ability in the world means nothing if a person does not “GO.” This means taking the Gospel, using our feet as Romans 10:15 says, to preach the Gospel.

Frankly, most believers today couldn't care less about leading people to the Lord for salvation. This is tragic. Most Christians claim to believe in eternal damnation for the lost, yet there are so few soulwinners today. Why? The Bible tells us why. In Mark 4:14 and Luke 8:11, Jesus likens the Word of God to seeds being planted by a sower. There are FOUR results mentioned:

CHRIST-REJECTERS. Some seeds fall by the way side, and the person doesn't get saved. This is seen in Luke 8:12, "Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved." So many people are going to burn in Hell someday because they "almost" got saved. King Agrippa said in response to Paul's Gospel presentation in Acts 26:28, ", Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian." Almost is not good enough. Carefully notice the phrase, "then cometh the devil." Mark 4:15 uses the phrase, "Satan cometh immediately." Satan is working relentlessly to keep lost sinners from being saved (2nd Corinthians 4:4). This group is not saved.

WORLDLY BELIEVERS. Some seeds fall upon the rocks and begin to sprout, but are quickly uprooted because they have no roots. This is seen in Mark 4:17, "And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended." These are believers who are saved "as by fire" (1st Corinthians 3:15). These believers are worldly--they listen to Christian rock, see nothing wrong with Harry Potter, are gay-tolerant, see no harm with women wearing pants, etc. They are OFFENDED by the Truth of God's Word when it comes to separation from the world.

If there were no dead-beat, neo-evangelical, compromising churches to go to--they'd stay home. We read in 2nd Timothy 3:12, "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." This group doesn't live godly because they don't want to be persecuted. So they instead bring the world into the church, and attempt to justify it by twisting God's Word. They rarely, if ever, share the Gospel with anyone.

SELFISH BELIEVERS. Some seeds fall upon the ground and begin to sprout, but are choked by weeds and never grow to produce any fruit. This is seen in Mark 4:18-19, "And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful." These are the believers who are selfish and self-centered, who are so busy enjoying life that they never have time for serving God. Oh sure, they'll give a little pocket-change, go to church, fellowship, etc; but they have the wrong priorities in life.

These are the believers who are sitting-on-the-premises, rather than standing-on-the-promises. Most believers today are living in pleasure, thinking about everything they have to get done, and what they're going to buy with their future paychecks. Meanwhile, the world is going to Hell, literally. These believers are materialistic, and are mostly interested in protecting their personal interests. They rarely, if ever, share the Gospel with anyone.

SOULWINNERS. Then there's the seeds that fall upon the ground and grow healthy, and produce fruit. This is seen in Mark 4:20, "And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred." Wow! Can you imagine, winning 100 people to the Lord? Most believers have never even tried to share the Gospel, let alone winning someone to the Lord. We are told in Daniel 12:3 that soulwinners will shine for eternity, "And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

No wonder Jesus said in Matthew 6:20, "But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal." What will this temporal life matter 100 years from now, or 10,000 years from now? All that will matter when we die is that we died in the Lord (i.e., born again), and that we spent our life soulwinning and living for the Lord. I don't know about you, but I want to be in this last group!

Jesus said to His disciples in Matthew 9:37, "The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few." Things haven't changed much in 2,000 years. Just as in Jesus' day, there are few soulwinners today. Preachers are dime a dozen nowadays, but men of God who genuinely burn with desire to see lost souls saved are becoming rare. I wouldn't give you a dime for any pastor or preacher who doesn't make soulwinning top priority in his ministry.

I will say, this article hits my heart, Go go as Jesus instructed us to, see link for more,
[url]http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's%20Corner/how_to_win_a_soul.htm[/url]

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Infant Baptism Should Stop! by plappville(op): 10:23am On Dec 22, 2011

[size=16pt]Romans 10:3-4 (ESV)
3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.[/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Sin Will Play Its Game On U. by plappville(op): 10:13am On Dec 22, 2011

[size=16pt]Ezekiel 18:24) But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.[/size]

We must live to keep ous righteousness.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sin Will Play Its Game On U. by plappville(op): 10:10am On Dec 22, 2011*

yommyuk:
In general, nice post. However in regards to the tatoos, I partly disagree becos the motive behind the tatoo should not be ignored. Some people may choose to have a tatoo of the name of their loves ones on their body. Despite me not been a fan of tatoos, I see nothing wrong with it in principle

Just my opinion

I understand ur point, but should that "motive" be a reason to disobey God? If we Love God, we will obey his words without saying BUT!. God knows we ve loved ones before he commanded us not to do tatooage.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sin Will Play Its Game On U. by plappville(op): 1:33am On Dec 22, 2011

Willful sin brings spiritual death and separation from God (Gen 2:17;but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will "surely die." (Eph 2:1) As for you, you were "dead in your transgressions and sins",

Sears and harms the conscience (1Tim 4:2) Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their "conscience" seared with a hot iron;;

Leaves you without eternal life (1Joh 3:15) Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath "eternal life" abiding in him..

And your past sins are no longer covered by Christ’s sacrifice (Heb 10:26) Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.

If you were to die, or if Christ were to return and call the world into judgment while you are in this SINFUL state, you would be lost .(Rev 22:11) He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Even if you were to turn from the sin you have fallen into and have godly sorrow and repentance unto salvation (2Cor 7:10) For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death.

You would have greatly harmed your soul. You have lost your first love, (Rev 2:4) Nevertheless I have somewhat against you, because you have left your first love.

you have seared your conscience (1Tim 4:2),

And as the "bride of Christ" (Rev 21:9) And there came unto me one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come here, I will show you the bride," the Lamb's wife".

You have "cheated on Jesus" by prostituting yourself to the devil.

[size=14pt]BRETHRENS IN CHRIST, DO NOT TOLERATE SIN, CONTINUE TO KICK IT OUT AND REMAIN FOR CHRIST.[/size] We are saved in Christ only.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sin Will Play Its Game On U. by plappville(op): 1:06am On Dec 22, 2011

Yield:
Nice posts.

God bless.

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 12:59am On Dec 22, 2011

Sweetnecta:
@Plapville; »Evidently, you do not want to hear the Yoruba song. As to friendship to God, Muhammad being a messenger of God is also a Friend of God. There is a hadith in which the messenger [as] said that if he were not the "personal" Friend of God, he would have been that personal friend of one of his companions [ra].

As to the one who God spoke to, and spoke to God directly, the journey of Muhammad known as Isra wa Miraj, though it complete what you christians are still waiting for Jesus to complete, as a return, now that there is no single disciple on earth, Muhammad [as] spoke to God, and was given the command of how many salah and rakats in a day to make, as well as the last 4 verses of Chapter 4, without Jibril [as] being the bringer of revelation here. the tashahuud of salah is the greeting of Muhammad to his Lord and His returning the greeting, and the angels with Muhammad and the believers the best of destination.

Everyone, creation is a word of God, as in His Command of the creation coming to an existence.

Muhammad [as] is over all of them as i have said by being the only prophet who is told to carry message of guidance beyond his tribe, his local people, but to the rest of the world. God called him, His seal of Messenger and seal of prophet-hood, so much so that no messenger or prophet will be raised after him. No message will be delivered after him. All messengers and prophets before him were asked to support him, if they were alive when he will be raised to deliver his message. If you accept the "sandals i am not worthy of carrying" of John about Jesus. each messenger or prophet is the same about Muhammad. He is their leader who each of them must follow. And that includes the son of Mary [as]. (John 14:6)Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.

No man cometh to the Father but by me - To come to the Father is to obtain his favor, to have access to his throne by prayer, and finally to enter his kingdom. No man can obtain any of these things except by the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. By coming by him is meant coming in his name and depending on his merits. We are ignorant, and he alone can guide us. We are sinful, and it is only by his merits that we can be pardoned. We are blind, and he only can enlighten us. God has appointed him as the Mediator, and has ordained that all blessings shall descend to this world through him. Aside Jesus, there is absolute no one. His words remains.

Cursing an angel? you see the scare tactics in play. There is no tactics, this show u how divine and true the "word of God is", Even if an angel come to contradicts the bible, he will be accused. The word is unchangeable.

And it was a prophet of God who said this? I wonder what will Jesus say to this? Maybe this is the reason Jesus and John disagreed on who John was as to being Elijah? Jesus said same things, all words in the bible are divine from "HIM JESUS", u must know that.

? The doctrine who shed blood believing they are doing it for God is what this verse is refaring to.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ishmael Or Isaac? The Koran Or The Bible? by plappville(f): 12:29am On Dec 22, 2011

Judek2:
Koran always use the word [b]WE to represent the authority and words of Allah.
Why is WE always used,does it mean that Allah is many who speaks as one?
Or Allah speaking with his three daughters?[/b]
Or Gabriel with authority from Allah is permitted to give law as supreme in partnership with Allah?
Allah is supposed to pose all authorities and thus express himself with authority as I

The WE always represents legions of Demons who cried out as Jesus chased them, WE poses the authority of many who are in partnership.
No wonder Gabriel said to Mohammad that We did not put those words into your mouth but Satan.
Satan is one, Allah is many (legion) speaking in One.

Sharp view @Judek2, Hopefully u ve pointed it out, i ve noticed the frequent use of WE in the kuran. Any the Muslim to try?.

Christianity Etc › Re: Moses, Jesus, Then Other Claimed Prophets: by plappville(op): 12:05am On Dec 22, 2011

LagosShia:
no madam!

find me an instance where i added my imagination or hate to explain the bible verses. Mr, u ve misinterpreted the bible times without numbers here, using it to validate islam, how does that speaks for it self?

i only put them forth.they speak for themselves.do not be blinded by hate dear madam.
so how do you conclude that spiritual power was not divine? I can conclude it because the bible makes it clear that in:[(galatians 1: color=#990000]But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that person be condemned![/color]

Islam is contrary to Christianity, Muhammed's spiritual life is contrary to that of Jesus. So it is not divine, God is not Confused. Only contradiction doctrines are confused.

please can you tell us his name? [b]and the hadith does not say Muhammad (sa) learnt from him.[/b]otherwise that christian was foolish to claim to have once being muslim!!! , Will the hadith say everything in details? He used to write for him, imagin the relationship just when he decided to leave he died and his grave was duged several times just to prove it was allahs power

i,a proud muslim born and with conviction, have actually being exposing the "secrets" in the bible that christians dont want to read themselves or turn a blind eye to!!!! Ur Father knows, when he wont be on earth, someone will come to decieve u, spoil him for u, tell u lies, do certain things that will almost confuse u to believe he knows ur father better than u do. Say the truth, will u accept a young little boy from elsewhere, to come and tell u that ur father is not what he claim he was etc? if u are wise, Wont u tell him, Hey little boy!, before u were born to earth, my father has been like this, I ve lived with my father all my life, i love and believe in him for everything he had told me. U ve no power to paint him or tell me to believe ur stories. I know my father, he is what i know him to be. Put Christians in ur position, and put the little boy in Muhammed's place. This is my short illustration.

you can see them all here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739943.0.html:Dont u think is high time u stop posting ur old self made links and show something new? of course u ve nothing new to show that's why.

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 11:31pm On Dec 21, 2011

@LagosSian
*if you want to know more about the Quran say so.do not distort the meanings of those verses.

God is capable of guiding anyone.the verses you are quoting simply tell you of the power of God to make you believe like a robot if He so wills.

the verses also inform you that there are disbelievers so evil that God Himself has justly punished them by making sure they do not believe because they are evil.

let me show you verses of the Quran that clearly show that it is in the hands of man to do good and evil and to believe or disbelieve:

Surah 29:69
"As for [b]those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good".

Surah 25:57
"Say: I ask of you no reward for this, save that whoso will may choose a way unto his Lord.

Surah 45:22
"And Allah hath created the heavens and the earth with truth, and that every soul may be repaid what it hath earned.And they will not be wronged.

Surah 2:26
"Lo! Allah disdaineth not to coin the similitude even of a gnat. Those who believe know that it is the truth from their Lord; but those who disbelieve say: What doth Allah wish (to teach) by such a similitude ? He misleadeth many thereby, and He guideth many thereby; and He misleadeth thereby only miscreants;

Surah 14:27
"Allah confirmeth those who believe by a firm saying in the life of the world and in the Hereafter, and Allah sendeth wrong-doers astray. And Allah doeth what He will".

Allah delibrately puts obstacles for people not to believe in him, i don't know wht u are talking about.

[size=14pt]Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. Quran 2:6-7

Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor.Quran 2:10

Allah has blinded the disbelievers. "Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see, Deaf, dumb and blind." Quran 2:17-18
[/size]

Will u blame people who rejects U?

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 11:18pm On Dec 21, 2011

@LagosShia: Oh, i see,the demonic forces would come back to "pray" for you!!!whatever!!!

Muhammad (sa) according to you must have really being a "superman" to intimidate an entire race (his people) with killing them and they yielded just like that!!!

Superman

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 11:14pm On Dec 21, 2011

uplawal:
May Allah reward these brothers,LAGOSSHIA,SWEETNECTA,BASY-DEMY.

My dear, u must be rewared by allah, i see why u were harsh towards us in the previews posts.

Quran 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)

U know Jesus, teaches us to win unbelievers to him not to fight them? If u must win their heart u must show them love, u don't ve to fight/force them to believe in Allah. See what the bible teaches:

"The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." —Proverb 11:30

(Mark 16:15) And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

U ve to search ur heart and make it up sister, Jesus loves u.

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 10:52pm On Dec 21, 2011

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=817518.msg9807116#msg9807116 date=1324429824]Show me proof of the bold, How many Muslim convert have been Kill in Nigeria or anywhere cos he/she convert[/quote]The quran pretendingly forbids it, Yet people are still scared to leave islam, becos they get killed.
We ve heard many death stories of people THAT left Islam.

Quran 9:12 And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist.
Quran 9:13 Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first ? What! Fear ye them ? Now Allah hath more right that ye should fear Him, if ye are believers

I thought Muslims claim, the quran never speaks violence, hate,? Is it by force to believe in something u truely know is false?
[size=14pt]Quran 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)[/size]

Jessica Mokdad was a 20-year-old Muslim woman in Warren, Michigan, who was brutally murdered in May 2011. Fox News Detroit reported: “Authorities say a Minnesota man killed his 20-year-old stepdaughter in Michigan because she left home and wasn't following Islam.” Jessica’s stepfather, a devout Muslim, tracked his stepdaughter over four states to murder her for bringing dishonor on her family.

AFDI Executive Director Pamela Geller said in a statement: “We’ve named the Conference after her as part of our ongoing campaign to raise awareness and bring a stop to the phenomenon of Islamic honor killing. These girls have rights, too, they’re human beings, and yet they’re completely forgotten in our politically correct culture, in which speech that is offensive to Islam is increasingly forbidden. We’re standing for the human rights of girls like Jessica Mokdad.” See link in complete:, http://freedomdefense.typepad.com/leave-islam/

NAIROBI, Kenya, December 3 (CDN) — A 17-year-old girl in Somalia who converted to Christianity from Islam was shot to death last week in an apparent “honor killing,” area sources said.

Nurta Mohamed Farah, who had fled her village of Bardher, Gedo Region to Galgadud Region to live with relatives after her parents tortured her for leaving Islam, died on Nov. 25. Area sources said they strongly suspected that the two unidentified men in Galgadud Region who shot her in the chest and head with a pistol were relatives or acting on their behest. see link in complete:, http://undhimmi.com/2010/12/04/teenage-girl-tortured-and-shot-dead-for-leaving-islam-by-her-parents/

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 9:52pm On Dec 21, 2011

LagosShia:
read and i wish you the best and guidance!

the first verse of the Quran revealed is just one word:"READ"!

I hear u sir!

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 9:51pm On Dec 21, 2011

[size=18pt](Galathians 1: cool

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Jeremiah 23:16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

Ezekiel 22:27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain.[/size]

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 9:50pm On Dec 21, 2011

Sweetnecta:
@Plappville: Are you a yoruba woman because a song in yoruba about Muhammad [as] and hearing the Voice of God in his journey to heavens, is a good way to answer you here?

If Abraham was Friend of God, and Moses spoke to God, Jesus was a word from God, do you know that Muhammad covered all of these qualities and then some?

Really, how?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Infant Baptism Should Stop! by plappville(op): 9:43pm On Dec 21, 2011

[size=16pt](1 Timothy 4:3 )They will try to stop people from marrying and from eating certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.[/size]

Married should be honored by All, Bishops and Priest u and me etc,

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Infant Baptism Should Stop! by plappville(op): 9:35pm On Dec 21, 2011

italo:
@Bojiboji,

Just a word of advice. . . Save your time and energy. This lady will not understand a word you say. Her head is already filled with what she wants it to be filled with. There is no space for anything else. . . Not even TRUTH.

Are u doing Christ any good? why drag others? did those people u ve been advising tell u they can't handle issues themselves? If u ve blocked your sight from the truth, allow others to see things on their own plz.

"For the heart of this people has become dull, With their ears they scarcely hear, And they have closed their eyes, Otherwise they would see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, And understand with their heart and return, And I would heal them." Matthew 13:15

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Infant Baptism Should Stop! by plappville(op): 9:32pm On Dec 21, 2011

Bojiboji:
'This has always been the catholics points, househood, u ve not come up with anything new Undecided'

So what does 'household' mean? Do you want to change the meaning of english words to convince others of your arguments?

I am not to change anything, no to convince anyone, it was the bible that said it all, if u decide to remain in ur infant doctrine, that is u not me, no course for alarm, we are free to correct things when we believe they are unbiblical.

"For we write nothing else to you than what you read and understand, and I hope you will understand until the end" 2 Corinthians 1:13

Read and you will understand" Eph 3:3-5

Christianity Etc › Re: Rebels Against The Light by plappville(f): 11:32pm On Dec 20, 2011

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA link=topic=825462.msg9774079#msg9774079 date=1323982886]what truth huh

its a bowl of lies. angry

[/quote]So do u ve the truth? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Worship And The Immaculate Deception! by plappville(f): 11:27pm On Dec 20, 2011

Rich4god:
@plappville, what is taking you so long to answer my question. Or is the letters Y E S N O missing from your keyboard.

U were abit too hasty huh

, can u imagin how long it took u before u responds to my first post? does it really matters, hoz long it takes for one to reply a question in NL? we do ve life outside this forum plz. I reply to postsm wzhen i a; chanced.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary Worship And The Immaculate Deception! by plappville(f): 11:23pm On Dec 20, 2011

Rich4god:
i didnt ask if you've met any1 to pray for you personally, all i asked is, have you ever asked some1 to pray for you (maybe your friend, neighbour or relation). For e.g, maybe when you are about carrying out a task/activity (such as traveling,exam, interview, business trip) and then you asked your friend to pray for the success of that task. I just need a yes/no answer, i dont want any explanation just answer it.

Now u ve come up with a clear question, i do believe i can pray for myself, so i ve not ask the mentioned above. although nothing is wrong in asking others to surport u in prayer, I personally believe, for example, Jesus told his disciples how to pray, in that prayer, one of the key statements is: "Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." when i pray, i hold on to this very statement believing that, God's moral will is always done in heaven, my prayers are fixed with him. I Dont need to annouce to others to help. Mine is enough i think, but others re important as well.

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 11:05pm On Dec 20, 2011

LagosShia:
please for your own sake,get a Quran and read it if you want us to believe you are enlightened and not caged!

if you need a link here is one with good english translation and commentary:

http://quran.al-islam.org/

in it,you will find miracles,prophecies,knowledge of the unseen and truth and wisdom.if you still insist you dont want to read,or that you will not read,by tomorrow morning i would have compiled for you a few examples.

Anything/link about the kuran is the kuran itself. it will continue to speak of itself as usual. but i ve no disturb reading itm thats how i can really see its inside.

Islam › Re: Muhammed And Joseph Smith. by plappville(op): 11:01pm On Dec 20, 2011

fxjones:
I was a mormon for 2 years, i started to get worried about my belief when i learnt they believe there are many GODS and Jesus in other planets, so they believe they too by obedience to Gods commandment will become GODS with their wives. After leaving the church i still find it difficult to get this off my head, they believe in so many weird things they will never tell you when you are newly converted to their religion. they teach you doctrines that wholy contradict the bible on the claim that the bible is not complete or corrupted, The most annoying thing is that when your eyes are opened and you asked the so called instructor a question that contradict their claim their answer will be "such questions are not necessary for your salvation'. they will throw it aside. although my record is still there i am praying to recover from the spell before officially meeting them to delete my record and serve the only true and one God of all universe the apostles served. people be careful

Thank God for ur life, U ve found the true way, Jesus is the only way, all others that rises after him till date are fauls, we have the bible to reveal all things to us if we want. Jesus knew they will surely rise to decieve many, thank God for the scripture?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 10:47pm On Dec 20, 2011

coolviv:
All these quotes r baseless n prove nothin except dat d poster is quarelsome. Mary cooperated in salvation just as Peter, John, Paul etc cooperated. Does dat stop Jesus from being our salvation? No! God forbids images n yet when d isrealites were being bitten by a snake God told them to make an image of d snake n whoever looks on it will b healed. We should not invoke d spirit of Mary right? Yet for those who have lost a parent or both, Ɣ☺Ʊ sometimes in your mind pray to them to help Ɣ☺Ʊ with one thing or d other cuz Ɣ☺Ʊ believe they r in heaven n can help Ɣ☺Ʊ. My point is d bible is very wide n complicated, even a thief can quote it to support his crime like tellin d story of d wise steward. So worship your God as Ɣ☺Ʊ can n let others do so too. At d end of d day God has not come down to tell Ɣ☺Ʊ d actual truth, instead we r all working wit faith based on wat is taught to us by human beings like us.

Just hear urself talking, were catholics beaten by Image? Did God alter a word that Marys image been worshiped?

psal; 97.7 Let all them be put to shame that serve graven images, That boast themselves of idols: Worship him, all ye gods.

Jeremiah 10:14 Everyone is senseless and without knowledge; every goldsmith is shamed by his idols. His images are a fraud; they have no breath in them.

Habakkuk 2:18 "Of what value is an idol, since a man has carved it? Or an image that teaches lies? For he who makes it trusts in his own creation; he makes idols that cannot speak.

Deuteronomy 5:8 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

Hebrews 1:6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

If u didnt see anywhere in the bible where it says, Marys image should be worshiped/honoured then know that this verse is a warn,,,,,,,
(Galathians 1: cool

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ishmael Or Isaac? The Koran Or The Bible? by plappville(f): 10:24pm On Dec 20, 2011

Sweetnecta:
i think people should not use vulgar language about anyone, especially the elect of God. there is no reason or need for this manner of speech.

but it is interesting that the christians are arguing for God leaning towards younger brother Isaac, with her mother Sarah. is the Friend of God not Abraham, alone, without Sarah ever having to say anything about it?

if the relationship of Abraham with younger wife Hagar was so bad, not sanction by God, we almost believe that the biblical God would have been very hard on Abraham or both Abraham and Hagar or Abraham, Hagar and Sarah who encouraged them. After all, we should not forget that Adam and Eve who didn't commit adultery, even in their ignorance and newness to deceit, only ate fruit, according to the Bible, and lost their favor with God because of it.

i will say the relationship of Abraham and Hagar if there was no punishment on this is not illegal and it received God's Mercy and Blessing. Ishmael was named by the same God and blessed him, and we didn't see any blemish from him. He was not jealous of his baby brother and there was no reason for God to listen to Sarah and support her in any injustices; towards a more vibrant younger wife or the first child of her husband.

the condition of the christians blaming Abraham underscores how Quran records the same old age wishing for a son by Zakariah [as]. He didn't turn to anyone but God and trusted in Him. But the status of Zakariah with Allah can't be higher than that of Ibrahim [as].

we definitely know that Ibrahim was steadfast and knew consequences of sins. He new the history of Adam [as]. No one can claim that the patience of Zakariah is greater than that of Ibrahim. Each man [as] learned and knew how to avoid evil and then they trusted in Allah, 100%.

brother lagosshia had presented a verse from the Quran that answers all issues of who was the son of sacrifice. Muhammad [as] called himself as the son of the two to be sacrificed. He said that he was the answer to the prayer of Ibrahim.There is nothing nez said here, u people cant defend anything, Islam rises to distroy Christianity, we know, the bible is there to reveal to us everything, so Nothing new about Islam.

Finally, while the jews and christians struggle to deny Ismail [as], we see muslim keeping the tradition of Ibrahim concerning the sacrifice. And Jesus proclaimed the coming of Muhammad who he called Ahmad [as to each of the noble souls]. There is absolutelly nothing like Jews and Christians stuggling, its even the Muslims that are struggling, This struggles started since the beginning of Islam, n one will co;e and tell u ur own fathers true identity?

As for Jesus, the bible is against any doctrine outside that of Christ, see it.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. (2 John 9)

We do not have to go to greek or latin or german to see what verse 6 of Surah As-Saf [56] says about Muhammad [as] from the mouth of Isa bin Maryam [as].

Christianity Etc › Re: Ishmael Or Isaac? The Koran Or The Bible? by plappville(f): 10:11pm On Dec 20, 2011

i think people should not use vulgar language about anyone, especially the elect of God. there is no reason or need for this manner of speech.

but it is interesting that the christians are arguing for God leaning towards younger brother Isaac, with her mother Sarah. is the Friend of God not Abraham, alone, without Sarah ever having to say anything about it?

ur muslim broda was the one pouring out raw words like he was in his teen romantic section, i hope he will learn to respect his language.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Infant Baptism Should Stop! by plappville(op): 9:59pm On Dec 20, 2011

But, one might ask, does the Bible ever say that infants or young children can be baptized? The indications are clear. In the New Testament we read that Lydia was converted by Paul’s preaching and that "She was baptized, with her household" (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer whom Paul and Silas had converted to the faith was baptized that night along with his household. We are told that "the same hour of the night . . . he was baptized, with all his family" (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, "I did baptize also the household of Stephanas" (1 Cor. 1:16).

In all these cases, whole households or families were baptized. This means more than just the spouse; the children too were included. If the text of Acts referred simply to the Philippian jailer and his wife, then we would read that "he and his wife were baptized," but we do not. Thus his children must have been baptized as well. The same applies to the other cases of household baptism in Scripture.

Granted, we do not know the exact age of the children; they may have been past the age of reason, rather than infants. Then again, they could have been babes in arms. More probably, there were both younger and older children. Certainly there were children younger than the age of reason in some of the households that were baptized, especially if one considers that society at this time had no reliable form of birth control. Furthermore, given the New Testament pattern of household baptism, if there were to be exceptions to this rule (such as infants), they would be explicit.

This has always been the catholics points, househood, u ve not come up with anything new undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 9:48pm On Dec 20, 2011

LagosShia:
you are not capable of two books or more.

remain caged in the zoo of a book you follow!

Im not caged, Christianity does not cage christians, God forbid, i decide to leave christianity, brethdrans in Christ will come praying for me to return back, But if a muslim dare leave Islam, They will kill him, except he relocates. this is the caged cult, the first pagans quraysh that embraced Islam did that becos they were scared to loose their lives to muhammed, we re aware of it all,

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Dressing Like An Imam? by plappville(f): 9:23pm On Dec 20, 2011

mabell:
Nice

aletheia:
Do you refer to this?
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