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parisbookaddict:
There are no jews here to get offended.. the dude u quoted only drew the OPs attention to his attempt of associating an islamic crime to ancient jewish scripture and inadvertently, Christianity.

U yourself said and i quote "Deuteronomy he quoted is a Judaic scripture borrowed by Christianity."



The poster has every reason to object to such association.. a muslim crime is a muslim crime spurned by muslim beliefs and scripture...nobody is arguing about any other thing..

neocortex:
The truth be told, if the stoning of alleged adulterers was not sanctioned
by the the bible , prophet muhamed won't have a source to copy from,
so the bible is guilty by initiation.

johnydon22:

WTF is wrong with you people, do you guys read the back of your phones or something or simple comprehension?

Where in my post did i accuse Christianity of it exactly

I only asserted the fact that Deuteronomy is an original Judaic law and not a christian law..



[size=16pt] Next time you all want to quote me, make sure it is related to my post you quote cus this daft quotes is getting really out of hand...[size=8pt][/size]

modelmike7:
Habaaaaaaa, this is just too WICKED, BARBARIC and EVIL. She was put in a hole and covered up to her neck and her head was stoned by men surrounding her till she died? Sickening! Just imagine the pains she will go through before giving up the ghost. My Dear God, you have a lot of cases to judge in the last days! Habaaaaaaa!! Man wickedness to fellow man!

johnydon22:


The matter is your comprehension of that line...

Biblical conflicting interpretation is from one source (BIBLE)

Quranic conflicting interpretation is from one source (Quran)

Hindu Veda conflicting interpretation is from one source (Veda)

You mistake is that you take the bible as a subject of point when i referred to these books but my assertions was very clear..

" Similarly the Quran and many other religious books also spark up
different interpretation stemming from one source."

it is clear your infusion of bible into this assertion is of your own making and poor comprehensibility.
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The book i mentioned in the assertion is the subject of my point of that assertion not the bible... Please please understand it..[/size]




Not really you only need comprehend..

DoubleDeeX:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dhsDjgMR058

Check this out!

Interesting thread. I will comment later!

johnydon22:
Which other books are you talking about The book i was referring to on my post is the bible itself as a matter of fact.. **Comprehension**

My mention of other books is that they all spark up different interpretations ... seriously you all should always read to comprehend..

[b] So since bible copied from Gilgamesh epic then Gilgamesh epic is divinely inspired?

Seriously i wonder how you all think, these are mere mythological and cultural assimilation [/b]

Scholar8200:
I think that goes to establish the fact that it is not the work of man; only the Truth attracts the attention of the father of lies. he has been at it since Genesis 3!

Moreover, another problem is PRIDE!!!

(we are afraid/unwiling to discover that
i) we have been deceived;
ii) our 'exalted' clergy/pastor/priest/church founder did not do a thorough job;
iii) the partial position/teaching satisfies and gratifies our flesh and relieves us of our responsibility and we dont want any contrary but Scripturally sound view that will deny us our pleasure/false assurances.
iv) the man who left a ministry to start his own wants numbers and wants to be different from where he left even at the risk of distorting the Word etc

Besides, if you consider the claims and beliefs of various dissenters, you will notice a holding unto a position/teaching, carved out from a passage ignoring what was said about the same subject in other passages and a movement is born holding to that teaching while ignoring other passages that, if considered, would have set things in the right perspective.

johnydon22:
You may do well to distrust anybody who claims to know so well what God wants or even writes it in a book, i have always noticed it is mostly in coincide to their own ideas and selfish egoistic dogma or sometimes culture.

[b] Similarly the Quran and many other religious books also spark up different interpretation stemming from one source.

With every new interpretation hoping to outwit the old as the better one and with every knew emergence comes more conflict of ideas, dogma and doctrines which ultimately leads to emergence of another in reformation and ends up being exactly what others are.

Every person claims so strongly that theirs is the right one and others are simply deceived, where as in Christianity is spans to almost 40,000 distinct sects and doctrines all hewn from the same source each person interpreting it to suit his own personal ideas or ego.

The funny part is that they all claim some super spirity power is leading their distinct and most time contradicting interpretations.

It is either the spirit is drunk or maybe confused Or there simply was none in the whole saga just MEN interpreting one text to suit their own personal ego or conform to their own ideology of how it should be blaming it on a spirity stuff... [/b]

Richirich713:
Don't u mean Divine

Maamin:
Typical of a muslim internet Jihadist, they resort to insult when they are cornered

Here it is again dullard


BLEESING In arabic = Barakat

MERCY In arabic = Rahma

Here is your deceitful transliteration: "
Allahummo salli alaa Muhammad kamaa sollayta alaa seyyidnaa Ibrahim Wa alaa aali seyyidnaa Ibrahim."

How comes none of those words were in your quoted verse? At least you claimed that it is prayer, blessing the prophet.

here is the true translation of "Oh Allah make thy BLESSING be upon Muhammad just as you BLESSED Abraham and his companions."

"ya alllah jaeal albarakat khassatk takun ealaa muhammad kama barakat 'iibrahim w rifaqahu."

Stop peddling false arabic quotes just to suit your deceitful desire.

You can run along now boy!

Maamin:
BLEESING IN arabic = Barakat

MERCY In arabic = Rahma

none of those words are in your quoted verse

here is the true translation of "Oh Allah make thy BLESSING be upon Muhammad just as you BLESSED Abraham and his companions."

"ya alllah jaeal albarakat khassatk takun ealaa muhammad kama barakat 'iibrahim w rifaqahu."

i think you lied..i dont think you understand the arabic that you have been quoting..

#truthman2012 dont let him deceive you with such quote pls!

aminusanti:
Perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others, u ll never learn despite all the tons of proofs given to previously on the same topic.. Even in ur diluted book our beloved prophet was prophesied long before his coming

Christians manipulate bible verses to fit their personal views, Everything that doesn't fit their personal views is taken out of context or is "not interpreted correctly", but then the verses that they agree with are to be taken literally. Isn't that biased? The problm is u pple r already misled

John 14:16 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.” is this referring to you Tell me holy spirit then I will elaborate it to u again

John 16:13 “But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come"

Deuteronomy 18:18 “I (God) will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee (Moses), and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” is this Referring to jesus?
The prophet will be like Moses look at the table below and tell us which one is like moses?

truthman2012:
Trash!!!

Allah cannot save anybody from danger. He couldn't save Muhammad and his jihadists from poison.

aminusanti:
I swear you guys don't have any idea on how useless and lame ur posts are. Just look at what both of you are posting now pls and [b] you expect a sensible person to waste his time on you going back and forth. [/b ].. just go back and read what "mubarakopeyemi" replied you...instead of u to notice it's all due to ur non-sense post pple are ignoring u even ur fellow kafir they hardly comments bcus they r seeing the facts yet you are still bragging thinkin that u are doing sometin...

dolphinheart:
The husband is not family, he is a member of the family .
The wife is not family, she is a member of that family.
The child is not family, he/she is a member of that family.
Each has a role and position that is different from the other.
They are not equal.
They are all humans, but have different authority in the family.
The family is not neccesarily made up by 3 individuals, it starts from 2 to as many as possible individuals.
the use of family does not support trinity!.

Scholar8200:
5. Endeavour to differentiate the Pre-Incarnate Christ, the Incarnated Christ and the Resurrected Christ and the Words spoken at different times at the Revelation of each!

6. Your reference to Christ handing over all to the Father should be considered in the Light of that statement by Christ:
John 17:11
New International Version
All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.


and a re-iteration in John 16:15

New International Version
All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you."
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P.S.
May I appeal that those pictures be re-considered; there are mysteries in the Bible that the full picture (we know in part 1 Corinth 13:12) can only be appreciated on the other side. Making caricature pictures now is similar to the mistake made in Romans 1:23
23 and exchanged the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God for [f]an image [worthless idols] in the shape of mortal man.."

Same applies to he that think the Divine Nature must be explicable by the miserable inventions/discoveries of finite man - mathematics/physics!!!
God did not make His word complicating. You people find it difficult to display the clearly the trinity without cracking of the brain.

Scholar8200:
Alright, let's clarify thoughts this way (some are questions while others are points you may choose to refute or endorse):

1. Was Jesus right when He said, before Abraham was I am"?

2. Jesus spoke about a Glory He had with the Father before the World was and in a latter verse (john 17:10) said, "   all Mine are Thine and Thine are Mine" meaning There is a Distinctness and at the same time a Oneness. Pls this does not suggest a Duo; here Jesus was praying to the Father, not teaching/preaching. He gives us the full picture in Matthew 28:19.

3. Paul the Apostle described the Incarnation of Christ that HE:
 6 who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes—the entire nature of deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it]; 7 but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man].
Phil. 2:6-8 (AMP)
Since this is so, I wont be surprised if His earthly life contained events such as weariness, hunger as well as speech such as WE Worship, My God etc

Teophilus96:
Yes take it or leave it, Christians do not worship the same God -but Muslims do.
Take a good look at Christendom, you would observe that there are diverse /different doctrines. For instance a particular church in one of its belief would tell you not to put on a kind of dressing as it is not acceptable in the site of God while another church would ask you to put it on that the same God allows it.
There was an emergent situation where by a Christian family has to locate an established church for help,instead of helping this family, they asked this family a question "Does any of you attend this church? If none of you is a member then we are sorry we can't help you "Just IMAGINE! Christians serving the same God? If this was to be in Islam, reverse would have been the case-they would be assisted, and is to show that they serve one God.
There are so many other instances but for a brief and explicit thread I wouldn't want to state.
Now the point is ;am not saying Christianity is not a good religion neither am I saying that Islam is a good nor bad religion., but that Christians should stop decieving themselves.
From a realistic view I would say this with great conviction that CHRISTIANS DO NOT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD but MUSLIMS DO. Take it or leave it.

Teophilus96:
Make deep research and you will find out why .

thorpido:
So what God do the Shiite muslims and the Sunni muslims worship.
It's still in the news that they kill themselves.

canadianprince:
Answer this question... Is Jihad part of Islam or not?

vooks:
You are blessed my broda.
The strength of the name Jesus is not in its pronounciation nor spelling but on the person behind it. As a matter of fact, the name was quite common in the first century, but when talking about Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus Christ, you are actually talking about the authority of Christ. And He moves, virtue flows from him

Kudducini:
Then You Guys Are Making A Big Mistake You Should Then Face

Talk About The Man Muhammad And Not Islam In Whole

VoslerGrimsbane:
"If God were to punish men according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily God has in His sight all His Servants. (The Noble Quran, 35:45)"

tartar9:
but they don't believe in Jesus

KingEbukasBlog:
That God exists as three beings - The Father , The Son ,The Holy Spirit - and they are one .

You are a christian and what do you believe in then ?

Who is Jesus ? How did Jesus come into being ?

Trinity is not a theory , its is fact

So How different is your Jesus to mine ?

kaboraa:
This theory of the Trinity is very damaging. First of all there is no much evidence in the Bible for it. Even when Jesus was called good he said Only God was good. Furthermore, there are many reasons why I will side with the Jews who think Christianity is pagan. Why would God promise the Israelites that a Messiah who is like Moses will come and restore the Kingdom of Israel when He himself was going to come. He should have told the Israelites clearly because He said that we should judge a prophecy if it came exactly as he said it would. If this was not clearly spelt out to the Israelite how can they be held responsible for being cautious not to believe anyone when they were going by what God had told them. How would Christians feel if the second coming of Jesus comes in a way we least expect and then we are told that we are wasted because we did not accept him. I mean c'mon. Imagine my brother at home telling me he is the second coming of Christ. No matter the miracles he does I would not believe HIM because scripture has told us how Christ is coming and that we shall be wary of angels of darkness posing as angels of light. Now imagine if it was true that my brother was the second coming of Christ, do you not see how ridiculous it is when I am blamed that I rejected Christ. C'mon guys. There is so much confusion in Christianity because many things don't add up. God created the world millions of years ago, with all the wars suffering and diseases, decided to come down at a time there was no video camera and not clearly telling even His selected nation about it and then decides that those who did not believe Him are all going to burn in eternity for HELL because they did not believe HIM. C'Mooon!!

I believe very much in Jesus but I believe most of his teachings were practical simple living a life of love and not even about a new religion. Christians believe salvation belongs to those who believe in the Name of Jesus and accept him that he came to die for their sins. However this is not clearly taught as Salvation. Salvation belongs to those who believe in HIM. And he clearly stated that those who believe in HIM are those who obey the words he taught. And it is summed that all He talked about was less religion and commandments and living for love. If your life is not lived by love you don't have salvation. Period.

UncleSnr:
[size=16pt]A man gets 70 virgins (in Paradise), but what does a woman get? One young man.”

Al-Salman continued: “The Prophet Muhammad said: ‘The dwellers of Paradise have clothing that never wears out, youth that never wanes, and a penis that never bends.’ So, she can have sex with this strong man, but she cannot have multiple men taking turns with her. So, a woman is not allowed to have sex with her slave, but she can marry him. If she has no husband and wants to marry her slave, she can. As soon as they are married, he becomes a free man and her master.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9JYbfcPFU

Pyrrho:
A huge solid dick that will never bend. A Muslim cleric said this.

parisbookaddict:
Some hadiths say the muslim man's genit.alia will be perpetually erect to deflower virgin after virgin. .

That is what Muslims look forward to in death. ..mohammed's sex addiction influenced Islam

Rilwayne001:
I totally disagree with him.