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Ola one:
Let her be, man. Why quote her again?

You really like trouble, man.

C'mon, come off it, man!

Desola:
well, well, if they choose death, we will only be glad to oblige them. It's the principle of supply and demand. They demand death, we supply them, yanfun, yanfun.

Economics is king!

Desola:
Pointb,

You remember that i mentioned earlier that you are deficient in reading and comprehension? Well, I wasn't wrong but for your benefit, I have appended above; Blissfulyfe's post for your perusal. Thank me later.

Of course, I know that the ibos are not aggressive, nooooo, , they only initiate wars.

ocelot2006:
@ PointB

Enough of the lies and BS. Annang, Ibibios, and Efiks your true friends?! Mehn, I laugh in Klingon. You seem to forget that you Ibos tried to coerce us into joining Biafra. Why the hell do you think our men enlisted in the Nigerian Army to kick your collective asses? Till that, Akwa Ibomites distrust you guys.

I have no regrets whatsoever of my involvement in Biafra or the role I played. The war deprived me of my property, dignity, my name. Yet, I saved so many souls on both sides and by this, I mean Biafra and Nigeria. . . .

I also do not regard fighting in self-defence as tantamount to a rebellion as some people have tried to make out.

Let me emphasise here that for one extraordinary moment in our history as a nation the Igbo, one of the three major ethnic groups that make up this country, accepted without question and with complete loyalty and affection, the authority and leadership of a man from a so-called minority area and accepted without question his call to them (and all others who fought along with them) to lay down their arms and return to the Nigerian fold. This supreme trust was based on my proven commitment to justice and fair play, honesty of purpose to the people concerned, rather than on my ability to mislead and deceive them. It is a point that perhaps some of our leaders should bear in mind when dealing with the masses and nationals of this country.

Gbawe:
Still responding to post you don't read? My friend, keep watching. For a base feudalist and juvenile thinker like you, GEJ staying as President is all that matter. Sadly for you, other sensible adults on the ground experiencing hardship , including GEJ's kinsmen, will , in the end, conclude that Nigeria is bigger than one man regardless of the feudalistic and clannish support he enjoys from a few online Rambos.

Desola:
honeysnookums,

what would be the need for bloodshed when you have agreed that you will leave in peace? We are not vampires, you know?

Your people would continue to trade unhindered as you do presently until the dissolution of Nigeria. We would not cause you any grief, we would even assist in putting your belongings in the luxurious buses. It would be a win-win for both sides.

Yorubas don't really go on the offensive, we go on the defensive so if you don't bring sh.it, you won't get shiatsu.


P.S: you know that you can't kill us all. Think about it, have a very brief thought on it. You see what I mean? Goodgirl.

Desola:
You see am too?

Their emotions always betray them and they spew out the venom in their hearts. I hop the SSners are watching and reading.

Like I said earlier, they are nothing but leeches who are far removed from reality.

Anyway, not to deviate from the original topic as I know that is their wish since their cover has been blown open and the tables have been turned on them.

Can the ibos stand alone?

emmke:
why are igbos always fond of insulting whoever disagrees with u? Just listen to how u are insulting the same people u wish to form a collabo with. Simply because (s)he gave his/her opinion. Pathetic. And i really feel sorry for whoever forms an alliance with u lot. Dont even bother insultin me (something u guys are very good at) cos it wont penetrate any pore of my skin.

Gbawe:
Yet you are always slavishly eager to quote and respond to what you don't read? Interesting. Anyway, base feudalism means flights of fantasy and a detachment with reality. Let us watch events unfold. As for your rabid post, I can only say go and smoke something to calm you down. Nobody will remove GEJ but his own weakness and sheer incompetence. When the time is right , virtually all Nigerians will be united in the desire to see the back of this grossly incompetent leader. That GEJ is still President is a testimony to our unique threshold for condoning abject misrule.

Gbawe:
You are a base 'them-against-us' feudalist , to the point of amazing ignorance, so your opinion does not really count. It is only a total fool, ignorant of all that is going on worldwide, who will think GEJ will politically survive 4 years of chaos involving Nigeria becoming Somalia plus extreme economic woes while corruption becomes the worst it has ever been.

Nature abhors a vacuum . Soon , even those you think will fight for GEJ will support his removal. Did your oga (Beaf) not boast that GEJ will use the might of the armed forces to crush any insurgency? Today, is he not singing a different song with how it has sunk in that GEJ is not the "action man" he tried to spam this forum into believing Mr. President is? What have the folks who have no similarity with M.K.O's people done for their President so far? It seems to me they are too busy enjoying amnesty, concubines and driving Mercs around Abuja. Keep fooling yourself.
Look at the embarrassing utterances of your oga below based on percieved power and conviction that exist only in his mind!!!! How many of his talk , predicated on "strong man" GEJ, has happened today? People like you and Beaf simply don't understand critical thinking or even reality for that matter.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-557136.32.html

Beaf wrote:

marvix:
I think we have had enough of all this arguements on this forum and its time we put this to rest.

There are three types of people on this forum with respect to the Presidential elections 2011.

Those who did not support or believe in Jonathan during the elections, they are in the majority in this forum, evidence of this go check the polls on this forum when we were approaching the elections, these set of people are still the ones complaining about his administration. My advise to them calm down he has won an election free and square and if u think Nigerians made a mistake when they had the opportunity to change the leadership, pls note that is also an achievement of Jonathan cos he created the atmosphere where it would have been possible to change him if the majority did not want him.

The second type of people here are those who supported Jonathan for the wrong reasons, reasons like he is from the Niger Delta, He can solve Power problems in One year, He did not wear shoes when going to school, he was an academic doctor and all other mudane reasons these people are also high in number on this forum but not as much as those who did not give him a chance, now this group are disenchanted because the role of the president is not a father christmas role and there are no magic wands to wave to make everything destroyed in 25yrs right in one year. These people have joined the group that did not give GEJ a chance and now make it seem like majority of those who voted for Jonathan are now disenchanted with his style of govt.


Then the third group are those who believe in Jonathan and know that the challenges of nation building is not a tea party and that Jonathan will not and can not solve all the problems. We look at Jonathan as a foundation builder and the man to continue with yaraduas foundation and ensure that the infrastructural framework to set us on the right path is put in place. We have always been in the minority in this forum, and we still keep faith with Jonathan not because I expect that my family in Jos is safer with him as president or that my folks in Maiduguri are safer as he serves, but because he represents a new order and we are convinced that the future has begun.

The issue of Boko Haram is not backed by any idealogy but just a raw desire of some folks to get power at all costs,  two wrongs will not make a right, if some folks have decided that bombing is the way to get attention it would be wrong to go out and exchange bombs with them and kill more innocent citizens in the process and even give them some sympathies, we must not allow them ffeel justified in their unprovoked attack on the govt or innocent citizens, that the SSS is not able to contain these people and the Military is yet to clamp these people down and the Police seems helpless in this battle is not totally Jonathans fault cos if the infrastructure has been put in place in the last 15yrs to ensure that these agencies can work profesionally then we would not even be bothered about these threats today, it is past failures that are responsible for the security challenges and those who caused this problems had this in mind so that in an event where they want to embarass the man in govt thye can do this just like they are doing now or is anyone expecting us to gather intels from the space just like that

I voted for Jopnathan and I believe he is doing a good job and if there is an election today I will cast my vote once again for him and campaign for him again like I did last year and early this yr.

The OP that thinks Jonathan will be the worst president ever I say hold your peace and let him finish his tenure then we can then analyse and all come to a conclusion if he is indeed the worst president ever or best president ever.

emmke:
^@point B u are more intelligent than that. Is land meant for building only? What about agriculture and the likes. Just accept that the north trumps the SE in that dept.

PointB:
lol at desert too.

By the way, why land mass may be limited, the sky in still open. If you build a bungalow on  one plot of land and I decided to build a six  storey building on another plot of land, how many plot have we each used? Innovation, and thinking outside the box is what the world need.

So in order to create more space, building with a vertically inclined disposition is the way forward!
Besides, there are many successful countries far smaller in land mass than SE.

Gbawe:
Indeed. I laugh when I read fans of GEJ bragging about how America will make Nigeria's security issues disappear. The same USA that concocted wicked lies (weapons of mass destruction about to be deployed) to destroy an entire nation and the future of generations to come i.e Iraq ? It is ignorant for anyone to tell the USA to stay out of our affairs when our leaders are always licking their azz and begging for their help at the slightest hint of yawa. The USA is simply totally about self-interest. When GEJ's woeful leadership begins to threaten their interest seriously, they will overtly or covertly support his removal . No long thing.

emmke:
lol at desert. There is huge land mass in the north. Now what percentage of that land is desert? Not more than 20%. The remain 80% is still by faaaar larger the land mass of the entire SE. Lol the SE would be grateful to have the land mass the north has, be it desert or not. Afterall is not as if the little land in the SE is any better, heck is worse. Is friging erosion-proned.  i reckon some people here just say things, lies in most cases, to feel beta about themselves.

ekt_bear:
And who said anyone would kick out Igbos? If an Igbo man has a business in the SW that is generating revenue and thus paying taxes, he presumably will sell it to someone else, no? The new owner will still have a profit incentive (since he paid hard cash for the business) and will try to make as much as he can from it. This still contributing to IGR.

This is obviously different from a Zimbabwe-style landgrab, a pogrom, or what Idi Amin did.

In general, if you want to make an analogy, perhaps best to ensure that the things you are comparing are comparable. . .

alj_harem:
Yes there are Nairalanders that can do way better jobs

1. Ndu chuks
2. Ekt bear
3. Manny4life
4. CyberG
5 Gbawe
6. Enyojo
7. Abagworo
8. Aerosapain
9. Abu_Mayram
10 Kilode
11 Fstranger
12 Chyz
13. Igbo2011
14. ChienyeN
15. Even desola and Ak47mann
16 edo girl
17. Akubi edu

all this people would do a way way better job than OBJ, IBB GEJ etc. I can count on this posters to do this job better.

forget the usual rubbish some of them post, if you read there post and understand there line of thinking then you would know these people are smarter or have more conscience than our present crop of politicans.

GEJ and others have a lot to learn from these people I mentioned. No lies. A lot to learn

afam4eva:
SE poor? There's nothing one won't hear in obodo Nigeria. You folks are just trying to console yourself. When the reality on ground reveals that the North and south west have the poorest people in Nigeria. There's a large gap between the rich and the poor unlike the south east where you have the largest middle class in Africa. Ya'll should keep decieving yourself with fake statistics that was probably cooked up by someone.  How  did they arrive at the figures?
What indices were used in the calculation? Someone will just wake up and decide to cook up facts and some lazy people will believe these fake facts when what's on ground is contrary to the statitics.

Desola:
Clearly, with your last response, there is absolutely no gain in engaging you in a meaningful debate because you are damaged! Corrupt to the marrows! You a genetic liar and all that would ever come forth from your mouth is lies, falsehood, skewed truth and evil!

You are afterall, an ibo extract!

cristog120:
i thank god this came from the north. i wish it can distract the minds of suicide bombers.

alj_harem:
(Sharia)North West/East- food, miltary polio, disease, illiteracy, almajiri, suicide bomber, boko haram, sharia and begging

Middle Belt -  food, miltary
SW - brains debatable
SS- Oil and gas, Enterprise

SE-[s] [s]trade, aka the rope that connects Nigeria.[/s][/s] oil, and gas

everyone bring something to the table, stop trying to remove other parts because of greed

alj_harem:
LOL you are back to your senses now, good

bolded part

the middle belt has Hausa, kanuri and fulani people in there, thus zone does not determine ethnicity

Adamawa is kanuri.

taraba, [size=18pt]benue are all fulani[/size]

cows are in kwara as well

Spices and conduments are from kebbi, jigawa and co

kelz88:
No the North cannot stand alone.

I'm sure former rulers would have gladly divided the country if that was the case.

Bottom line is we need each other. We can make it work.

Desola:
Doesn't part of an IGR go to the FG and a percentage to itself?

How many people are left in in these SE states, anyway when they've mostly emigrated to the west and other African countries?

IGR per parity would favour a less population than a larger one. If you share a pizza among 5 people, they would clearly be more satisfied than if shared among 10.

We should look at the population in the compared states before boasting that you are doing better than others.

At the end of the day, we are asking: what do you bring to the Nigerian table?

Desola:
Pointb,

Did the ijaw man or calabari man have things in common before Ojuiku decided to make them Biafrans?

Do the kwarans and Hausa have anything in common before they were made Northerners?

danjohn:
PointB

I think that IGR is very very important.  It shows a state's ability to stay afloat in the event there is a shortfall of revenue from the Niger Delta.  It shows whether a region can stand on its two feet without federal government assistance.  It shows whether a region is a parasite or an asset.  Saying that there is a no problem with the low IGR from the SE or any other region in Nigeria for that matter is completely disingenuous.

Every state in Nigeria should be economically and financially viable.  It is sad that most of the states were not created with economic and financial viability in mind.  Most of them wait hat in hand for money from the federal government.