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TinubuDeDrugLor:
The same vaccines killing some people.

Same vaccines why covid has just about disappeared. Same vaccines China refused and instead using their made-in-China own - why they're still battling with covid while the West has moved on

The problem with your thesis is that you fail to see that everything in our reality is an assumption - we have NO WAY of proving that reality exists as we experience it

There are things to this life that science and people in general will discover in a 1000 years. So there are LOTS of things we don't know but think we do.
Solution: Do what works for you!

There are now vaccines and treatments. It can only be back for conspiracy nuts who refuse to access those, or those who can't afford to

For some of us the real question is, who gives AF??

Some of us couldn't care less

Ok, so what?
Jejely divorce him.
Won't be the first, won't be the last.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I said "re-argue".

As long as you've learnt that those verses are not rapture, and henceforth stop saying they are.
That's all that matters.
Ciao

Cubalabloo:
I think the debate on Atiku's nationality has been settled. That idiot isn't a Nigerian!

Correction: THIEF not idiot. He is a confirmed crook but not a total idiot. Let's be fair

Wordsfrombimpe:
Lolz , go read it

Ok, comment on this my thread and I'll go read it

https://www.nairaland.com/7421487/abroad-guys-relocate-back-nigeria

Dtruthspeaker:
You did not say this the first time so now you are just trying to reargue now that you appreciate that you did not say anything the first time.

I wasn't quite sure b4. Now I'm 100% sure - you are not serious, you are joking.
I've said repeatedly that those verses are not rapture. Even sent you experts' definition of rapture (below)

Dtruthspeaker:
Then you are saying that you have no objection to my presentation only that it is not supported by the democracy.

And democracy is not what makes Truth, A Truth.

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth. Mahatma Gandhi

And it was the crowd who murdered Jesus even when the few said that He was not guilty of any crime.

A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd. Max Lucado

Nope. I think the problem may be that you don't really know definition of rapture. Only Thessalonians is rapture. Just as the judgment day of Revelation is NOT rapture, and sorting of wheat and chaf is NOT rapture

Dtruthspeaker:
Sorry, can't do that.

I have seen that the multitude can be wrong, (the follow-follow syndrome) so I do my own investigation to come at my own conclusion so that stand or fall I understand all.

And I have a right just like Mr. Phd to present my own analysis for reasonable query by the public.

And going by your response you are not able to find any fault with my presentation, so I know that this is just a case of

Sipping little by little at a truth we find bitter. Denis Diderot

Funny guy. I told you the verses you picked (in Ezekiel,
Mathew, and Revelation) are not rapture as popularly and expertly understood.
Now, you say you have formulated your own understanding. Of course you can define anything as you wish - you can decide that A stands for chair. Just as long as you understand it is only you that define it that way!

Dtruthspeaker:
First this is someone's thinking and understanding of it, I have a right to do my own thinking and coming to an understanding of it

And I see that they are wrong for they have mixed up "Evacuation/Removal" which is Ascension in Mathew 3:12, Thessalonians, Revelation 20:9 with rapture which is "Separation" the parable of the sheep and the goat/wheat and tares Ezekiel 9:4 which has to do with living while still alive on the earth.

Well, life doesn't work that way. In a public discourse such as this you have to go by either the generally accepted or the expert. This person is an expert PhD who has spent years studying these things. As for the generally accepted, see the images below- that's how rapture is understood worldwide. Of course you can come up with your own, just as long as you keep it in your house and not bring it to forum discourses!

ednut1:
No be only Ngozo Fulani what about Aisha Yoruba

Aisha Yoruba... not a bad name
But not the same because there are Yoruba Moslems
Rather, Nnamdi Yoruba or such impossibility

Truvelisback:
And u believe? If at such exist, they won't be more than 2%. No go let dem whine u. NATO people like exaggeration.

Well, have you ever been with a man? The same way you find the idea disgusting is exactly same way some lesbians find it disgusting. So don't be surprised there are quite a few "gold star" in the West

Truvelisback:
Show me a lesbian that is a virgin or that has never being dicked before.

Well, see below

Devdevdev:
You hardly see Nigerians teaching coding or talking about programming related stuff on on social media, especially on Youtube. This is because this is actually a legit way to be a successful person and it involves a lot of hard work, determination and consistence.

Nigerians as a people are natural con men, regardless of tribe. And they usually want to be rich not just comfortable, and they instinctively know that suffer head legit jobs are no way to get rich - but they usually end up playing themselves!

Truvelisback:
Women can't do without men. They can only pretend. Men are irresistable.

Not so fast. Lesbians do without men all the time

virginprincess:
So true,i honestly wish most women can wake up to reality,a woman's life should not evolve around man.

But it shouldn't exclude men either, while she goes about looking for herself

Wordsfrombimpe:
Read to understand as you na fit comprehend the book will be much better shikena

Why can't you just tell me right here?

Aboks:
Relationship nonsense

All na sex mate

Until you fall in love with some girl (or rather talk yourself into psychological trap called "love" ), you'll learn.
Do you think these people killing themselves or their lovers do it because of sex?

Wordsfrombimpe:
You can read that in my First Book when I was also in a relationship

A Simple Life also the Ebook is also on Okadabooks

https://store.okadabooks.com/book/about/a_simple_life/27765

You can just tell me. Why is it you suddenly have an urgency to find yourself only whenever it's time for relationship

So what were you doing all your life? When it comes time for relationship that's when suddenly you need to find yourself

Dtruthspeaker:
Mathew 3:12 and Thessalonians are the same. They are both talking about the rising up from the earth and escape from burning of the earth as exposed in Revelation 20:9 and 11.

But the rapture which happens while people are on earth is the one in Ezekiel 9:4 which has taken place.

Here's definition of rapture below. Please explain how it tallies with Mathew, Ezekiel, and Revelation. Which are presented in screenshots below.

The rapture is an eschatological position held by some Christians, particularly those of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all Christian believers who are alive, along with resurrected believers, will rise "in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air."[1] The origin of the term extends from Paul the Apostle's First Epistle to the Thessalonians in the Bible, in which he uses the Greek word harpazo (Ancient Greek: ἁρπάζω), meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize," and explains that believers in Jesus Christ would be snatched away from earth into the air.[2]

Dtruthspeaker:
Some will say Mathew 3:12 or 1 Thessalonians 4:17 which is "ascension/removal from destruction and fire" but I would say Ezekiel 9:4

Well, Ezekiel 9:4 and Mathew 3:12 were clearly NOT talking about rapture no matter how you read them.
So we are left with Thessalonians 4:17. If you read from verse 13 you'd get the picture. People alive then were expecting that they'd all see the second comming. Problem was, some of them died (as people normally die) in the meantime. So they anxiously wrote asking Paul how this could be since they were all supposed to experience it. Thessalonians 4:17 was Paul's way of consoling and encouraging them.

judedwriter:
God gave me a prophetic revelation of this man!

He is the former president of the United States of America and the first black president of the USA.

HE IS COMING BACK TO POWER!

And the revelation I got is that he isn't a normal human being!

Beware! Let's repent and seek earnestly the rapture! Jesus is coming quickly!

Please where in the Bible is it mentioned there'd be rapture?

Franzinni:
Try and read my last comment well ... Maybe sometime, some day ... You will get it... As for now at least I understand what you are trying to say ... It's an interesting point of view. I do not agree but at least I see where you are coming from.... I guess that too is .....LUCK.

You finally get it!
When you remove all the superficial stuff and get down to the bottom of things, it's all luck.
But of course 99.99% of people would mindlessly parrot the old aphorism - "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS LUCK!"

Franzinni:
calm down brother ... These things are not luck, the fact that you didn't creat yourself doesn't mean you were lucky to be born. After all you were not created ... No body alive or dead was created at any point in time, we all grew... No body just dropped from the factory like a machine ... Even as a sperm, you had to fight with billions of other sperms to become the victorious one to fertilize the egg... Think my G !

You didn't even answer my question before you just begin all the yarnings! What is luck, without some type of preparation? Even if 1 million dollars worth of precious stone fall on your head right now, as long as you don't KNOW!!! You would rather be rolling on the ground, holding your head and crying about the stone that hit your head ... Instead of jumping for joy that you are lucky to be hit by a precious stone ... Do you understand ? Becasue I am getting the argument vibe from you already and I will be frank with you chief, when ever I comment, I only state my point of view, I have no interest in making others be convinced, I just express my thoughts. So if you have a need to be right, then you are .....

You might say I am wrong but.... It just SEEMS to be so!

My nig from the rant you are obviously the one that needs to calm down
Calmly, unemotionally look at things. Try not to be blinded by the way things SEEM to be. You gave example of sperm but didn't think it through. How many trillions of sperm did your dad spill b4 you. Then after the egg is fertilized all the trillions of sperm he poured into your mum were out of luck. That word again, LUCK!
Your million dollar example did not even go far enough. People win millions of dollars then loose it all - because of the type of person they are (which they didn't determine). On the other hand, some people born into abject poverty...
It's all LUCK!

Franzinni:
what is luck my G... Can you define it in a way that eliminates some kind of preparation?

The amount of opportunities that surround every single person each day is enough to change a person's life instantly... But most are never prepared so luck, even when it hits them in the head they still won't notice ...

Case in point ... If you decide you want to become a professional in any profession today , there is nothing to hinder you besides a smart phone and internet, google the topic and it is all there ... So why then do you think Africans especially are light years behind the others even when the playing field is even thanks to technology?


Boils down to the individual and his or her place in the collective.

My G you asked me to define luck then went on yarning. You for wait make I define luck.

Luck is where you were born, parents you were given, environment and people you were exposed to, the type of brain you were given, the type of looks and personality you were given.

Unless you somehow had a hand in creating yourself and deciding these other things, then it's all LUCK.
It just SEEMS to us not to be so!

Franzinni:
It is not that the black man lacks the will to become... But it is that he lacks the will to know how to become.

All these men have a reality where they are very rich and successful but life has beaten them into accepting what is as what he is.

His greatest fear is that he is powerful beyond measure.

Life is a game ... Play or get played either way the game stays on!

All this you're yarning na wash.
It all boils down to LUCK!
It just SEEMS to us not to be so

UnusualEmissary:
Record!

Record!!

Record!!!

Achievement!!!!!!

Legendary! Legendary!!



Modified: I am referring to the man who was the first to cross the bridge

I thought you mean FTC guy