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budaatum:
"It may be said" does not mean it is so or even meant to be so.

I have just one question for you. Did Darwin give you the impression that he believes in the existence of a Selector?

What's with you folks and this selector stuff? Did I tell I believe there is a selector?? I only said there are lots of things Natural Selection can't explain.

Now you get it. "It may be said" is to used so you understand the statement is not literal

LordReed:
Dumdum special relativity has already accounted for that so it is up to you to show what property of the universe dictates that there should be no limit.

My friend, such things DON'T arbitrarily have limits in our universe for no reason. Or give an example

LordReed:
Is it the same article or a different one?

So you are going to ignore that the article YOU brought calls simulation hypothesis a conspiracy theory?

Dude I have designed simulations, nobody I know designs a simulation with the limits of the processor in mind. Rather simulations are designed with the limits of the required OUTPUTS in mind. Plus you can simulate unlimited speed on practically any modern processor, games do it all the time. This is not a valid reason at all.

See this one, "I have designed simulations"!
People who have been (since their early teens) at the vanguard of AI and simulation of worlds are telling you they can simulate this our world to the last degree with the people inside it given illusion of free will, and you are talking gibberish!

As for the article, Reed u sure u OK? You pointed out the article was published April fools day, so I showed you variations of same article published at other times.
And why are fixated on the jocular conspiracy theory comment. It is just a side comment to help make the article interesting

LordReed:
Actually that's what you believe or what do you think intelligent design means?

Meaning what? I've done everything, including posting the definition below. You keep mindlessly repeating that nature doesn't go about selecting (I'm tempted to add "like a slowpoke" ). EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT!!! That is, everybody except you and budaatum. Listen, the net EFFECT is SELECTION!!! If an environment favors survival of tall people, over time tallness will be SELECTED FOR!!!

By the way, you folks,
1) If humans were NOT DESIGNED to hate whats good for their health and longevity and love what's not, where did that come from?
2) Where did things like lions liking raw meat and never eating grass, and goats liking grass, come from? It's not as if these animals evolved on different planets!
3) Can't you folks see that evolution and natural selection are perfect examples of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy? (Look it up )
4) Can't you folks see that there is so much they can't explain? Things like consciousness, abiogenesis, why lower animals generally have shorter life spans than humans, why lower animals are not capable of abstract thought, complex organs like eyes, dna, etc, etc.
5) In short, can't you folks see that evolution (much like atheism) is a religion - you just believe it or you don't!

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budaatum:
No. The above is incorrect. More correct is:

The end result of natural selection is the Prevalence OF CERTAIN TRAITS.

Basically, the result you see is what has prevailed, as opposed to "selected", which implies a selector. But I don't expect us to agree on this since your stance is that there must be a selector (God, designer, etc).

One would not say a designer gave the giraffe a long neck in the example below, but that some giraffes grew longer necks in their search for food and that made their survival more likely, as opposed to being arbitrary selected by some selector to survive.

Please don't turn into another LordReed on us - master of the obvious. The language has been "selected" and "selected for" since 1859 till today - used by all professors and experts in the field, from Darwin till now. ONLY you and Reed think it implies that something or someone is going about selecting!🙄
In your world "as if" and "It may be said" don't exist! (Which is language Darwin used below)

LordReed:
Still not showing how special relativity points to how there should be no limit.

Honestly this suggests a flaw in your mental state. Is there a limit to how far back you can go into the past or into the future? Or how high or low you can count. Or how hot or cold it can get? Etc. See below

LordReed:
Wait you don't know the significance of 1st of April? LoLz.

Plus he literary says its a conspiracy theory IN THE ARTICLE. Bwahahahahaha!

Funny guy. The below are from 2024 and not April 1st!

LordReed:
BTW. Dude look at the date.

Date! Something that has been around since Einstein -that the speed of light never increase no matter how fast the light bearer is traveling.
BTW, beats me how this Einstein guy figured this out.
Light moving ought be going faster than light standing still

LordReed:
You are the one saying something, prove it now you are trying to turn it on me. It is you needs to show why speed should be unlimited. Simply saying it should is not a reason. The universe has all sorts of properties which properties of the universe should allow for speed to be unlimited.

So it makes perfect sense to your sense of reality and common sense that light leaving Nigeria on a fast plane will get to UK at same time as light shining from Nigeria?
Really, Reed, u ok?

LordReed:
That is not valid a valid reason. Tell me what in the nature of the universe allows for infinite speed by any system.

BTW I hope you realise that the so called limit is for all electromagnetic phenomenon not just light.

U have started again. Soon you'll be trying to save face. Why should speed (or anything for that matter) stop increasing?? Mention anything you know that'd stop increasing for no reason if you keep adding to it?
The speed of light traveling on a fast plane and the speed of light standing still are the same!
The write-up below should help u

LordReed:
There should be no speed limit because you say so?

Nope. Because there is NO reason for any speed limit just as numbers don't suddenly stop at, say, one trillion.

LordReed:
I seem to have a couple of recalcitrant knuckleheads here. Listen dummies, this is very simple. Nature has no agency it cannot take actions but we describe some of its processes as through an action was taken or a behavior was displayed. Eg. We say a moving stream is running, we say the clouds are pregnant, etc. None of things like this are literal. The stream is not actually running the way an animal with legs can, it merely descriptive. So when I say nature doesn't select I mean it is not taking an action or making a choice with an outcome in mind, it can't. But some how you knuckleheads are all over the place with nonsense especially PoliteActivist Aemmyjah with their constant appeals that indicate no real attempt at understanding.

😆Ok, I'll try to help you save face. Only problem is that your posts are there for all to read - blabbing all over the thread that diabetes and other diseases survive because those carrying them reproduce - pure nonsense!

My good buddy Reed, how many times will I call you?
The end result of natural selection is SELECTION OF CERTAIN TRAITS!
It is assumed everybody knows nature or anybody does not go about looking for traits to select. Nobody figured there'd be people like you who need the obvious spelled out for them. Even Charles Darwin below uses "It may be said" meaning "it's as if". But he didn't even have to use that for people to know what he meant. ONLY people like you would think it meant there is someone or something going about looking for traits to select!

Aemmyjah:
https://www.facebook.com/100061611048887/videos/712473660788607/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

What do you think of the behavior of those frogs ?

A result of an intelligent design or blind chance (chaos)

Science teaches me about God

Very interesting video indeed. You don't have to look deep at all to see there is INTELLIGENT DESIGN to our universe. All you have to do is look at is how mathematics inside physics correlates so well with the natural world. Another thing is the relatively low speed of light being the speed limit of the universe, when there ought be no speed limit at all!

jesusjnr2020:
Are you surprised? If they have chance, they would start shouting, "blasphemy" "blasphemy", and even stone us... That's the Paulians for you.

But what do you make of the fact Lord Jesus said clearly and specifically (if you believe those who wrote it down decades later) that he did not come for you?

jesusjnr2020:
They are following Paul footsteps, because at the time he was doing that, he was so sure of himself that he was

(Moniker Frigga13, no need to be so insulting. How is that Christ-like??)

But St. Paul was INSPIRED by Lord Jesus as to what to write, and he WROTE IT DOWN! He made it clear when he was giving his own opinion.
Christ's own words were written down decades after he said them and NOT by the original hearers. What conversation of 4O years ago do you remember word for word??
Also, remember Lord Jesus made it clear he came for ONLY the house of Israel. It was through Paul that he changed that

fidelmarshal199:
I hate it when these bloggers engage in these conversions of funds, Was he given the money in Naira? is the receiver going to spend the money in Nigeria? Why not report the news with the currency he was given?

Then it won't be so interesting and sensational. That's journalism for you

Aemmyjah:
Olodo will not quote from reliable science references but what he wants to hear
I can use same method to prove to use that Buhari is not real but one Jubrin of Sudan
De play

No mind Reed. See my QED on him above

LordReed:
Dumdum my question was a simple yes or no one. Again, Is the selection in Natural Selection metaphorical or not? Show me how hopeless you are with your answer.

Edit: On review, I have come to see that I have been using the wrong word. I should have been using ANTHROPOMORPHIC not metaphoric.

My once-again defeated buddy Reed and his non sequitur questions.
Whatever you think those words mean, neither "anthropomorphic" nor "metaphoric" applies to natural selection, . "Natural selection" is language coined by a person who then went ahead to say what he meant by it!
Once again, Charles Darwin originated the whole evolution and natural selection thing. Be humble you can't define his own coinage better than him, then carefully STUDY his definition of his own term! Study the four screenshots below.

QED (once again!)

(Wow, you've lost every single discussion we've had!)

FRANCISTOWN:
It all things being equal, then you dey yarn dust.

QED

FRANCISTOWN:
Once we can only understand God thru instinct. Then something is wrong with God. Such God who has something wronged with him is no God at all. Feel me?

And why would God care one bit if extremely insignificant you understand him or not?
Don't you think he would bestow the instinct about himself on whom he wishes, and communicate with whom he selects??

LordReed:
LoLz. Is the selection in Natural Selection metaphorical or not? Show me how hopeless you are with your answer.

Charles Darwin originated the whole evolution and natural selection thing. Be humble you can't define his own coinage better than him, then carefully STUDY his definition of his own term!

FRANCISTOWN:
I no know karate and I no know kungfu. But I get people in the armed forces plus I get plenty area boys. Before you knock me, them don bundle you put you inside drainage. Plus I sabi box die.

I already said you ain't cut out for academics. You should try fishing. Fishing is an enviable "profession".

I can't even deal with your emboldened. My initial battle is, does eating broccoli and not watching TV has any direct or indirect impact on the ability of humans to procreate, Yes/No?

OMG, why me? Loving juicy steak instead of broccoli,
loving sweets and sweet drinks instead of water, loving chilling in front of tv instead of going to the gym, are all examples of beneficial and non-beneficial lifestyles.
BEFORE YOU REPLY and continue talking nonsense:
first google "why haven't humans evolved to love exercise and love food good for them", see if you'll see any mention of reproduction

Image123:
You must have met reedmarole.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You have come again to display your stupidity. What is nature if not a conglomeration of all NATURAL processes and their outcomes? Is NATURAL Selection not a part of nature then? Look at this dummy trying to use semantics to gaslight their way out of admitting they goofed. LMFAO!

Na wa o my bros.

Reed, is the word "selection" in the word "nature"??
The two screenshots below may help you

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Who are you trying to gaslight? Where did I say individuals don't select? I said nature doesn't select here you are saying my focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! You excel in stupidity I swear. LMFAO!

Meanwhile when I first said nature doesn't select you were shitting bricks but now that I bitchslapped your brain you are changing mouth that selection isn't literal. Bwahahahahaha!

Dude I will be here to deliver some more bitchslaps to your brain don't worry.

I give up. I've tried. I don't know what sort of person this is. Folks please help me explain to my good buddy Reed that "natural selection" is NOT synonymous with "nature". Please help me explain to him that nature is a tangible thing while natural selection is a process that leads to certain traits being SELECTED! Please help me explain to him that his statement "natural selection doesn't select anything" is embarrassing even for an  elementary school biology student!

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LordReed:
LMFAO! I swear you are fully stupid. You left where it CLEARLY states NO. TWICE. Only to focus on where again it uses select metaphorically and you want to talk to me about being stuck on literal words.

Reed you sure u ok? How can a thinking human being possibly be like this?? How can it be that of all things to discuss about natural selection your focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! Something that everyone instinctively knows! That's why I say you are a literalist. Read what Darwin said. That's why he used "it's as if"!
You sure u r all there Reed? I no get the way you reason o

LordReed:
I clearly did NOT write age because I was referring to organisms broadly some of whose reproductive cycles are in hours.

See exactly what I was saying? So age to you can't be in hours?? SMH

LordReed:
Show me where I wrote reproductive AGE.

What does the encircled embarrassing statement (below) mean to you?
Reed, honesty I don't think you are made for this type of discussion. It's as if you find it very difficult to get beyond the literal words to what is actually meant.

(Example: "long enough" in my statement below also implies "healthy enough and competitive enough" to reproduce)

LordReed:
LoLz. Don't deflect. Natural Selection DOES NOT SELECT. See it in black and white and reset your bitchslapped brain.

Aemmyjah, please help me tell my good buddy Reed to stop continuation embarrassment of himself. Please let him know that "select" and "selected for" are long established language of natural selection that even elementary school biology students instinctively know what it means. It simply means over time traits that are beneficial to success of a specie predominate.
Even his own screenshot (see below) uses "select"!!

LordReed:
Lemme bitchslap your brain some more. Read the screenshot.

PoliteActivist this bitchslap is for you too. Aemmyjah

My good buddy Reed, it is really a major wonder that you still have mouth to talk despite embarrassing yourself for so many pages on this thread. (See a sample below). Please, what exactly is the point of that your screenshot,?