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budaatum:
This is just plain stupid and a waste of time.

See below

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! You posted junk from Quora but still have mouth to talk. Go and check the same Quora you'll see that Descartes WAS NOT a solipsist on there. I posted a Brittanica link there showing clearly that Descartes was not a solipsist but fool like you will ignore it to continue to wallow in ignorance.

Stupid arse that didn't even know who a solipsist is is now forming knowledge that Descartes is synonymous with solipsism. LMFAO!

You keep embarrassing yourself. I said Descartes adopted solipsism to write On Method - something Britannica clearly agrees with!

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Once again more shallow stupidity from the perennial dumbarse. You went shopping on Quora but failed to actually comprehend the substance of what is being discussed.

My friend stop posting nonsense from reddit and further embarrassing yourself. Even high school students know that Descartes is the closest to solipsistic of all our great scholars. His name is synonymous with solipsism

budaatum:
No one is claiming their senses are infallible!

Please see below the one scholarly source the obtuse doc HIMSELF posted to prove Descartes was NOT solipsistic!

LordReed:
What a stubborn fool you are. Google was Descartes a solipsist and save yourself further embarrassment from me doing it for you and showing the world how foolish you continue to be. Bwahahahahaha!

HellVictorinho6:
Can u help me with 3k please?

The obtuse doc has spoken again.
I did just that. See below.
QED (as usual) 😆

budaatum:
I don't need to prove them wrong, just as I don't need to prove you wrong.

What I don't need do is buy into their ignorance and stupidity to think I'd wake up when put in a box and stuck deep in the ground when dead.

And I definitely would not be combining my resource with such fools on any project or venture.

So if you die in a dream and put in a box, you'll no longer wake up??

You don't need to prove anything, it simply underscores the fact you don't know what this reality.realy is

budaatum:
So, you can't independently verify what your senses tell you about the true nature of the cars approaching the busy road you are about to cross?

I'm just glad not everyone uses their senses as little as you do or there'd be plenty more road killed.

Like I said, you don't think deeply enough. It is still YOUR senses that will tell you result of anything and you have NO OTHER WAY of verifying if it is true. If a non-existent you jumps in front of a non-existent car, your same senses/thoughts that conjured all that can also conjured up a non-existent death or injury and you have no way to verify if any of it really happened

budaatum:
The same senses that I have bothered to train myself to use better than you who hasn't bothered because you think they don't even exist?

And what do you think therapy is for, I wonder, and even psychodrugs?

https://www.nhs.uk/every-mind-matters/mental-wellbeing-tips/self-help-cbt-techniques/reframing-unhelpful-thoughts/

Seems a nice article, will read it better later.
Problem is, you don't think deeply enough. If you did you'd realize it's still your thoughts reframing your thoughts and you have no power to challenge it, just as you can only verify your senses through your same senses and there is NO other way!

I didn't know ISIS had a beef with Russia

budaatum:
No one is claiming their senses are infallible!

That's why one would ask and knock and seek instead of merely believing the first thing one observes or is told, so as not to be lied to or lie to oneself.

But I suppose you might be the sort who crosses the road after your senses have lied to you that there is no car coming after it has lied to you that you don't exist.

You have no way to "ask and knock and seek" except through your same senses. Just as you have no power to override your own thoughts

budaatum:
I guess one must accept that you do not know how to use your senses, and you assume everyone must be lazy and as incompetent as you are because that must justify your lack of effort to learn to use your senses.

Remember we are talking about true nature of reality. You have No WAY of independently verifying what your senses tell you about it. Just as you can't tell you're in a dream while in the dream. Some people say this reality is a dream - you wake up when you die.
You have NO WAY of proving them wrong. Some say it is a long-running computer game of advanced beings - they all have their own chips (people) they play with. Some say we are something started then long forgotten and we're so minuscule it is highly unlikely we will ever be stumbled upon again. Others say it is prison punishment. Others say it is reward. Others say it is a school. Others say it is a test. Others say it is happenstance, what you see is what you get, no more to it. Point is, you have NO WAYof knowing who is right!

LordReed:
LoLz! Dumdum is dying of embarrassment. Bwahahahahahahaha!

What part of I am not interested in solipsism do you not understand?

Embarrassment because I taught you the primary meaning of solipsist. Shame on you Dr. Reed for not acknowledging when you've been taught something.
And by the way Descartes WAS a solipsist (secondary meaning). He made himself a solipsist {at least for the duration he was writing "On Method"}, and also convinced himself of the existence of God [see below]

The trick is sustaining it OVER TIME!

Dialpad:
Hope prices of goods and services will reduce as people have taken undue advantage of this situation

Once they rise, prices RARELY permanently reduce. You ought know that by now

LordReed:
LoLz. Stop being a stubborn goat and learn. Bwahahahahaha!

Now that that's been accomplished, let's continue.
Are you now firmly convinced your senses could be lying to you, or you still think they are infallible?

budaatum:
No, I do not rely on my senses to tell me what is going on. My senses merely perceive, while my mind is used by me to interpret what my senses perceive.

There's no way my senses can perceive a fat man that is not there, because my mind will tell my senses to look again to confirm.

But if your senses work that way and perceive fat men that are not there, be a Ferrari salesperson so your senses can tell you to exchange a real actual brand new red Ferrari for the imaginary million pounds in my imaginary bank account that are both not there please.

Bottom line: we are not CERTAIN what we experience through our senses is true. And we cannot tell for SURE when our senses are correctly reporting the way things really are and when they are not. The reverse is also true: our senses may refuse to perceive a given reality for whatever reason - you simply subconsciously refuse to see or feel it. OR the brain is too busy doing other things right then - example, people injured in battle or sports don't feel any pain from their injuries until afterwards.

LordReed:
Dumdum is discussing Decartes A PHILOSOPHER and wants to discount the PHILOSOPHICAL meaning of a word. What a stupid ignorant arse! Bwahahahahaha!

Stop being an arse and say thank you for learning something new. Bwahahahahaha!

You learnt the primary meaning of solipsist, did you not? Did you know it b4? Nope. You are welcome

LordReed:
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Bwahahahahaha! Dumdum educate yourself and stop being an ignorant ass. LMFAO!

What is the primary meaning of solipsist?

budaatum:
It is not your senses that deceive you when a magic trick works, but your actual lack of knowledge of the trick, and you not developing your senses, and the trickers ability to misinform your underdeveloped senses.

What makes magic tricks possible is the knowledge the tricker has, and your own ignorance. If you were not ignorant and instead knew how a magic trick works you'd find you wouldn't be tricked by magic.

It is actually your senses. You rely on them to tell you what's going on. If they tell you there is a fat man when there's not, they deceived you

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Dumdum you have just confirmed how SHALLOW you really are. A pretentious simpleton who gets orgasms because of big words yet has no true understanding.

Read the encircled and be educated dumbass.

It says clearly the primary meaning of solipsist is selfish

budaatum:
I think it is English that is your problem.

If one claims to be perceiving something that is not actually happening, would you not say that person is stupid and tripping and maybe high on bad weed or just plain lying?

if I perceive, as in register with my own senses something actually happening, then something must actually be happening for me to perceive it.

For example, if I perceive, as in register with my senses, a boxing match where an ant is beating Anthony Joshua, then that ant must actually be beating Anthony Joshua for me to be perceiving it.

Now, that doesn't mean that anything you claim you perceive actually happened, because you have admitted that you don't know how to use your senses and you just might be lying or tripping, while I don't create imaginary crap in my own head and claim I perceived it when I couldn't possibly have perceived it.


Some people watch Tom and Jerry and claim rats talk too, but Tom and Jerry and Matrix is not actual reality the last time I checked.

Wow! This is becoming rather childish. You are the only adult I know who doesn't know your senses can EASILY deceive you. What do you think make magic tricks possible??

LordReed:
Again if you want to believe live in a lalaland that's your prerogative, I am not interested.

Just admit you have no way of knowing what is truly there. That's all

LordReed:
It's you who doesn't know what it means. While you look it up also look up hard solipsism.

See below.
QED once again. This is becoming too easy

LordReed:
Dumdum people like you is a different class from religious people.

Still Descartes WAS NOT A SOLIPSIST.

You don't know the meaning of solipsist. It does not mean what you think it does. Look it up

budaatum:
Your senses can totally fool you, you mean, while many are smart enough to question what they perceive with their senses so as not to so easily be fooled.

It's like you trying to fool yourself here that you don't exist because you are not sure that you exist, while we are smart enough to know that an entity exists that registered on this site and calls itself PoliteActivist and has been posting in this thread.

I'm really surprised you can't grasp this simple concept: something needn't actually happen for you to perceive it happened! In The Matrix thoughts were fed to a person hooked to a machine and he was living a full life - but in reality he was hooked to a machine, non of it was actually happening

Dijita:
With all due respect . if you are paying to post this song about you. I am thinking you probably pay the singer for the song. I don't consider this to be good PR. I may be wrong

Duh, why would an Hausa singer just wake up and decide to sing to you. Who be you?

Wasn't this guy running for governor somewhere?

LordReed:
Dumdum I didn't call you religious. Also dumdum Decartes was not a solipsist.

See the circled below.
Yet another QED

As for Descartes, he started out by doubting EVERYTHING he could possibly doubt (what do you call that?), and realized one thing he couldn't doubt was that he was thinking.
He also convinced himself that God exists (see below)

budaatum:
What you mean is you can easily be deceived!

Our senses are that way - they can totally fool us

budaatum:
So, you assume certainty that I might exist, but you doubt that you yourself exist, or that you might only exist in your head that might not exist?

I wonder if it's predetermined that you will tie yourself in knots.

of course I assume even more certainty that I exist because there are CERTAINLY thoughts and I assume I'm the one thinking them - in reality I don't know where they come from

LordReed:
They is you.

BTW if I took the time I am sure I can find several examples of religious people on NL casting aspersions on reality just to avoid uncomfortable facts.

How can a religious person believe that our senses were based on lies - that they were intentionally created to deceive us?? Answer that

LordReed:
Except the reverse is not the case (Not that it is even true that you can do everything from real life in a dream). Not everything you can do in a dream can be done in real life which even Elon Musk fanbois like you can appreciate delineates reality from dreams.

See Last Thursdayism above. EVERYTHING can be faked except the thoughts themselves

budaatum:
Speak for yourself please.

You are not sure of the nature of your thoughts, or even if you exist to think thoughts, it seems.

As I've told you, it is very likely things are as we experience them. For us too have a conversation I have to assume certainty that you exist - ignoring the small possibility that you exist only in my head! Just as Einstein believed everything is predetermined but had to pretend it is not in other to functsociety society.