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LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Yet you said this:

Obvious what I meant. I could have written "believe". I didn't for a reason

HellVictorinho6:
But am certain u cant help my life


I dont care how that sounds to u

You have to first be certain I exist outside your head. How can a figment of your imagination help your life?

LordReed:
LoLz. You are truly hopeless. Bwahahahahaha!

You can bwahaha all you want. I said a million times that I'd be playing devil's advocate for both sides of the belief divide as a totally unbiased umpire - without my personal beliefs conming into play or intruding.
If you asked the question on a different thread, that's one thing. But to ask it on this same thread? That truly is a sign of being out to lunch!

HellVictorinho6:
Which this are u talking about?

What do u mean by control?

Av told u that ur existence doesnt mean theres a universe

Of course it doesn't. That's what I've been saying - we are not in position to be making certainty statements about the universe... or anything for that matter!

LordReed:
I asked a simple question, do you believe or don't believe that there is an intelligent designer(s)

My people when I say Dr. Reed is not all there, there is a reason for it.
Please study the postings below and decide for yourself if someone who's OK and has been on this thread from the beginning (like he has), will still ask this question!

HellVictorinho6:
U cant do anything in a dream or matrix

You have NO WAY of knowing what this really is or if your mind is under control or if the universe was created last Thursday!! (See below)

LordReed:
Dumdum I didn't ask if you know,I asked if you believe. Keep showing just how much of a duplicitous phony you are.

You are now heading towards another QED. Soon you'll be trying to save face and denying what you said earlier.
Believe WHAT exactly?

LordReed:
Whatever is wrong is wrong with your brain since you are incapable of answering a simple question.

Have you lost your mind??
I HAVE ANSWERED YOU QUESTION!!!
You are really beginning to annoy me!
Here's the answer AGAIN!
Apects of the universe indicate some sort of design (but we'll never know for sure because we don't know the true nature of things or what this is all about. Maybe knowing that renders the question irrelevant!)

HellVictorinho6:
What a fraud!


Stop asking questions or answering

Just be talking 2 urself THEN!

Anything that can happen in "real life" can also happen in a dream or matrix including "asking questions or answering". Doesn't at all prove this is real.
You the fraud - can't admit you have no way of knowing exactly what this is

HellVictorinho6:
Then stop making or spending murny

Thatz where the dishonesty is

You sound ignorant. Can't you be making and spending money in a dream or a matrix.
Simple: you have NO WAY to prove anything exists outside your head (of course I'm assuming there is a head and that that's where thoughts occure!)

musicwriter:
Spirituality is the thing he's doing now- being and doing good because it's the right thing to do, not because a religion said you should do or be good to others.

Sooo being and doing good is spirituality??

musicwriter:
Two things he got wrong:-

1. He weren't switching churches because of miracles but that's the time he started being curious whether what he believed was actually true. So, he started looking for the truth to the best of his knowledge. At the end he discovered what we all who left Christianity discovered. Jesus is a FRAUD. It's an illusion!!

2. The second thing he got wrong is Spirituality. Someone who knows him should tell him that spirituality is not the same as religion.

Spirituality is the thing he has embraced now (being void of any religion) whether foreign or local.

Spirituality is not on the side of a God or Devil but on the side of good for humanity. It's when you find spirituality that you eventually find God. If God is a spirit, then you must know him through spiritually. You don't need any type of religion to know him.

Sooo, how do you find "spirituality"?

johnog4sure:
The vulnerable make the highest percentage in any congregation, they are majorly those who are made to believe they owe God worship, they include regular goers, 'sinners', church workers, etc.

Gotcha

budaatum:
Actually, you are very dishonest and words confuse you.

Listen to yourself claim you don't exist while claiming "I am" and refusing to answer simple questions that you know expose your wonky reasoning.

Is it that you can't see words like "sure"?

The only thing we can be SURE exist are thoughts!
But we are not SURE the true nature of thoughts!

What part of that is a lie and what question do I refuse
to answer??!!

LordReed:
I asked a simple question, do you believe or don't believe that there is an intelligent designer(s) then you gave a long talk that doesn't answer the question. The answer is supposed to be yes I do or no I don't with a clarify after if you wish. You examine your own answer and show me how it indicates a belief or lack thereof in an intelligent designer(s). What a tool.

Ok, I've concluded- there's something wrong upstairs.
Someone told you CLEARLY that aspects of the universe indicate some sort of design (but we'll never know for sure because we don't know the true nature of things for sure)

blowjohn:
Hmm. Ur right

👉

HellVictorinho6:
U keep spending murny


U are 2 dishonest


if u are not sure of anything,then stop speaking as if u are sure of murny,people or universe.


stop comparing them!


what a dishonest thing!

You are the one being dishonest, though unintentionally.
I am being TOTALLY honest:
Thoughts are really the only thing we are somewhat sure exists, STILL we are not sure the true nature of thoughts, so we can't say thoughts prove that we as individuals exist

budaatum:
This must be the equivalent of self identifying where you get to identify others however you want same as you imagine things that don't exist and ignore those that do.

No, that's all "you" are - memory. Thoughts are really the only thing we are somewhat sure exists

HellVictorinho6:
U keep spending murny


U are 2 dishonest


if u are not sure of anything,then stop speaking as if u are sure of murny,people or universe.


stop comparing them!


what a dishonest thing!

See what Einstein said below

blowjohn:
Ok.
What if he didn't use that kind of money?

He'd have a poorer but more Christian church

LordReed:
LoLz. I didn't ask if you know or not I asked if you believe or not. I know you're not that retarded to not know the difference. But sure as day you'll try to weasel your way by saying nothing yet saying plenty.

You're beginning to make me conclude there's really something wrong with you. You sure u ok at all?
I just explicitly stated what aeliev!

HellVictorinho6:
But u sure of the head


And the murny u spend


And a lot more

Thatz y u keep interacting


Interaction means sure of some but not sure of others

Not sure of anything because not sure of the true nature of thinking

johnog4sure:
Exactly! However I categorize those in christian religion into 4 groups: 1. The vulnerable 2. The hypocrites 3. The gullible and 4. The genuine

Who are the vulnerable?

blowjohn:
Retrospective.

He didn't say he collected the money.

He said he ran a small church and that’s how they got real monet

johnog4sure:
No what I meant is the biggest financial are usually people who feels they owe God (vulnerability) because of their sinful life. They mostly do not make any effort to change, they feel their commitment to giving to church is sufficient.

Yeah, that's what I meant - and according to you that's where the church gets the real money NOT from ordinary members

LordReed:
Didn’t I say you believed in god, I said intelligent designer. Say it now that you do not believe an intelligent designer or designers exist and clear the air.

Dr. Reed I know you are NOT retarded. Not totally anyway . How many times do I have to say that aspects of the universe point to intelligent design??
But ultimately we will never know for sure - because we don't really know what's going on. Happenstance can look like intelligent design. Except that the universe correlates too well with something purely abstract like mathematics, thats suspicious. Also too many creative people and geniuses have confessed they receive help from something outside themselves.
Below are the greatest human inventor that has ever lived and the greatest abstract one.

johnog4sure:
I once manage a small church, the truth is that majority of those who goes to church contribute little to nothing, the real financials usually dont come to church(big men, politician, oloshos, thieves, 419 these men think giving part of their illicit wealth is a way to atone for their sins) its a circle. That is why it seems no matter how u talk, dey dont hear.

So you know they were thieves, 419, oloshos, etc and you still collected their money

HellVictorinho6:
state the sumtin then


u av defined u 4 yasef


is u tha sumtin?


can we meet face 2 face?

Point is, you have no way of being sure of anything. Even if we meet face to face doesn't prove I exist outselde your head

budaatum:
Would you kindly stop insulting buda by assuming buda is the sort of person you 'tell' please.

Define Buda. Buda is a bunch of disjointed memories you've amassed since babyhood. But you talk as if he is real

LordReed:
What did you argue with creationists about?

See below.

Shall we add another QED? I think we shall..

QED (as usual )

HellVictorinho6:
no it cant

itz not something

Elaborate