₦airaland Forum

lonelydora:
Let ne teach you bible a little. You can only do what Deuteronomy 14:22-29 says ONLY IF where you are to pay tithe is very far from you. Is your church far? Is POS or ATM transfer far? Go and understand the bible before you speak what you don't know. You can't use 1984 Jamb syllabus and read for 2017 jamb examination.

Is that what you understand from that passage? Or is that the interpretation from your bible?

Omuneizzy6:
Most often i hear people debate on tithing and offering. I feel like wow, though its really an end time controversy but viewing tithing and offering based on my perspective it should be always personal.
I believe too well that tithe is a covenant between God and Man, the main reason we argue on this is because of the ignorance towards tithing and offering... Why not read, study and know more on tithing. Some argue based on what others says while others argue because they only view it as money alone...
I remember all the people that tithes in the bible were rewarded... Or you think your tithe of 100 can buy private jet for one man? Please lets our tithe should be personal don't argue on what others argue on tithing and offering.

There is nothing personal about tithe, it is Jewish law. The instructions on the types of tithes, what to give as tithe, how to give tithes, who to give the tithes and what to do with the tithes are clearly stated in the Bible. Anything contrary to this instructions is going again God’s commandments.

smulti:
Both the government and the pastors are operating in the same frequency

which is scam !!!
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They are even worse than the politicians.[left][/left]

$8.44/day? Wow! That’s even less than the minimum wage per hour and you call that middle class. If those ones are categorised as middle class, God help the low class earners. Why I am surprised at a country whose residents believe more in miracles than in hard work and creativity.

Treasure17:
Smh.. I pirry you. Hope you don't learn in a hard way .

This is why Africa will always be backward. See fear tactics....... Mental slavery, with this thinking you will always be a slave to your Pastor

livinbygrace:
You mean responsibility,for children of a family to graduate with good grades and all children remain Jobless and useless till the grow old?Pray you don't encounter such experience ,else you will be the first to shout it louder than your voice.House wickedness real and it's happening life .They must die by fire

There are only few jobs available in Nigeria, good grades are not enough for you to land a job cause it is competive. Teach those children to develop the requiste skills or better still innovate or start something on their own. Stop attributing people’s failure to enemies, they have to take responsibilities. I have seen families divided because of these beliefs, children don’t speak to their parents cause they have been told they are responsible for their failures. The moment you recognise your failure and your short comings that’s when you begin to solve them. Africa arise and stop foolish thinking.

donbrowser:
Daddy Freeze is talking because he is not using his degree to push wheelbarrow. If that was the case, he would say amen to that prayer even before Adeboye finished.

No one is blocking your way. It is only when you accept responsibility for your failures that you begin to look for ways to solves them. One of the main reasons Africans are poor today is because they don't accept this responsibility and always blaming others. The church is not helping by not telling the truth but selling them HOPE.

ivoryfile:
He is our father. Ruth 1:16 NIV

Ruth 1:16New International Version (NIV)

16 But Ruth replied, “Don’t urge me to leave you or to turn back from you. Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God.

New International Version (NIV)

Are you not a Christain? How is the Bible verse you provided related to my question?

danieljoel759:
The founder of salvation ministry, and trevangelist Pastor David Ibieyeomi was present at the shiloh 2017 to mark the day 3 "a new dawn"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJLhQ_SYz4M




cc; lalasticlala, mynd44

See story... all because of offering. Wetin co-sign rod and money?

ivoryfile:
Amen to that! Cause we are being made rich by his God...
Join us tonight for another night of encounter.

www.Ivoryfile.com

His God? Why not your God?

Wetin dey happen for there? Tithe gathering?

bezimo:
Defending which stupid things..You are are the one confused. you are not a christian so pointing things out is just a futile waste of time because you are not in a position to understand. There are poor folks in the Canada and dont attempt to downplay the existence of the poor folks who lack food and are homeless yet magnifying the poverty in Nigeria and holding church as responsible.. your logic is upside down. you mean church carering for the needy in Canada but not in Nigeria. You are super ignorant.there is no point even going further.

I am sorry my brother, I can’t help you.

xtivin:
Tithing is not for carnal minds. And it sounds stupid but spiritually wise.There is a covenant in where you put your money for spiritual purpose. Pay to satan and loose the rest,give to God (the church) and have plenty.this is a spiritual wisdom. But the truth is pastors should not emphasize on 10 percent but the more you give the plenty you have.

Is that in your Bible? To me, the bolded words sounds like ‘you don’t understand the ideology of MMM’ used my Ponzi promoters to scam innocent people.

bezimo:
There is poverty everywhere..Dont think otherwise..i live in the West and you will see some white folks who are poor and begging for money from you..some of them are homeless.They hardly show that in the media
You will be suprised.There are many reasons that can be attributed to the poverty of majority of Nigerians..that a discussion for another day.
So poverty has no respect for Nation.
Just like in Nigeria, In America there are christians who do what christians in Nigeria also do..so i dont get the recent controversy and its aim.Its not a godly aim..i will think.

Stop defending stupid things, I live in Canada. Even if you work minimum wage, you can pay your bills. You can only be homeless if you do drugs or make some terrible fininacial decisions. About 45% of Nigerians are living in extreme poverty, Nigerians don’t even understand what it means to have constant power in their homes for a week. If you are in the west as you claim and attend a white church, you should know that many of the teachings in the African churches are false and are just for enriching the pastors. They brainwash human beings and make them do foolish things that can be equated with slavery. I volunteer in a charity organisation run by a church that feeds the homeless and provides accommodation for them, for free, daily. Stop defending what is improverishing your people, it’s your duty to humanity!

bezimo:
It doesnt matter what explanation you make those satanic agents of hell on social media have vowed to attack the church by propagating misleading stuff and garnishing previous videos by men of God to tarnish their reputation. Just watch this week we are entering they will edit and crop another video to potray another man of God as bad. Brood of vipers..
From attacking tithing, the would move to offerings, to releasing reasons why people should not even go to church but blessed be God.They have failed.

There is no one attaching the church, people are against false and foolish doctorines. Please tell me why Nigeria is one of the poorest countries in the world? The Pentecostal church you see today came up as a sort of revolution. We will use social media to dismantle lies, it will only get bigger my brother.

2sizzlin:
Thank you for taking time to write all these. Christians be careful. Freeze can say what he likes because he doesn't understand but Christians joining him isn't good. Even David who knew God wasn't supporting Saul anymore did not make bad remarks about Saul.
Thanks sister.

The christians have risen up to challenge false doctrine and it will get bigger. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Pastor Sunday Adelaja has started his own and other Christians will join. The era of false doctrine and foolish teaching that impoverished Nigerians is getting over. Deal with it brother!

sureheaven:
When freeze or any of his household will be in trouble, he will be taken to one of those pastors he criticizes most time for deliverance, then he will know God still uses some people .

See how human beings reason? When someone gets sick, they go to see the doctor and not the pastor. This is just common sense, use your brain.

With all this 'the church is marching on' shit everywhere, Nigeria is one of the poorest countries in the world. This is not a coincidence, when her people are more religious and foolish than they add value to their lives and their nation.There is a revolution against stupid teaching in the church, and if the revolution against the almighty Roman Catholic worked, which birthed the Pentecostals of the GOs today, this one too will work IJN. Nigerians need to be saved from lies and false doctrines.

DeepLearning:
Suddenly the Yorubas are silent on restructuring. Goes to show that they were not interested in restructuring but used it as a tool to water down the Igbo quest for secession.

SMH... What a treacherous tribe?

Even within IPOB structure, there is a breakdown of order. Some part of the leadership have even started a new Radio Biafra. Even Uche Mefor is gasping for breath, his salary is about to hang.

smoy:
on medical benefit i totally agreed with you and on the spiritual level it was a command to Abraham the father of faith to circumcise and a warning that if don't you shall be cut away from God and the affirmation of this by Jesus was that Jesus was circumcised, but the problem was that self apostle of Jesus called Paul he preaches contrary to the teaching of the mater, Jesus. circumcision is a must.

Okay. I'm sorry, I misunderstood your point.

Thanks

joshnes:
Did Jesus treat the passover in a different light from the old testament sir? Your reference is like a basket sir, it holds no water.

My point is, there are many things in the Old Testament that we as Christians don’t do. The fact that Jesus did something is not a prescription for the Christians to do.

joshnes:
smoy This issue is of circumcision is not even an issue. I believe that any issue that pertains to the old testament that has been treated in a different light in the new testament by Jesus or His disciples, the old should be discarded. In Acts 10, we see the Holy Ghost falling on gentiles for the first time to the bemusement of the jews. If God Himself does not regard circumcision or not before pouring out His Spirit, who are we to enforce it on anyone. Apostle Peter called circumcision a yoke (Acts 15:7-11) when there was a dispute on circumcision. In that same chapter (vs 29) they told the new christians what to abstain from or do, and circumcision was no where on the list. Am I saying it should be done away with? no. I agree children should be circumsised if not for anything for the medical benefits. But being circumcised or not does not change your standing with God, therefore it is not a must for a christian (Acts 15).

So? Jesus attended passover too, do you attend Passover? You should understand that the description of something doesn’t make it is a prescription.

This is the confessions of a dangerous mind that lied, to tell the truth. Even though it is very dark where I am held against my wish, I saw IPOB shake and tremble, and then fall to pieces like a house of cards. By using IPOB to promote the divisive rhetoric of seductive but destructive whisper that is pushing Ndigbo to the false comfort zone of isolationism, I erred.

I scratched the itching eye with the piece of wood meant for scratching an itching ear. In my arrogance, I never imagined that should the Nigerian security operatives make a determined effort to extinguish me, the human rocks I had piled as a barrier around my father’s house would come tumbling down. The invasion of my father’s house by murderous Nigerian security operatives and the subsequent killing of many of my unarmed followers was an “aha” moment for me. I feel sadness over the death of Umu Igbo in the quest for Biafra that should never have occurred. I am confessing that IPOB’s foolhardiness led to their death.

In the words of wisdom from a great mind Albert Einstein, “The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” I am confessing that IPOB’s absurdity has no limit.

We are like lepers whose hand Ndigbo shook and we overcome with excessive affection. Because Igbos honored the Biafran spirit and heroes and stayed home when we threatened them, we arrogated that honor to ourselves and got carried away.

After I recently disappeared into thin air, my comrades in IPOB, rather than change gear and save our fast depleting gunpowder, exhausted them in the false hope that they will stop the November 18th governorship election in Anambra State. The call for a boycott of that election finally exposed our dirty ass. The residual energies after my dramatic disappearance could not coalesce around the elusive goal of forcing Ndi Anambra to boycott the governorship election.

Suddenly, the almighty IPOB has crumbled like a cookie. Now, I have not only killed my obsession with breathless pursuit of an elusive Biafran goal, I have also left the beautiful mess IPOB, directionless. I guess that’s what happens when a headless ram like IPOB initiates a head fight with the bull, Nigerian military operatives.

Even in this present state of damped optimism, I don’t want any of the pro-Biafran independence agitators to lose their outrage over the state of affairs in Nigeria and Igbo land because, in outrage, there is hope. However, having observed the collapse of the move for independence even after a referendum by the Catalonians and Kurds in Spain and Iraq, respectively, I have concluded that one of the first steps to real liberation is not to build on lies and deceit.

IPOB crumbled like a cookie because it was anchored on deceit. Fiction is a deceit. IPOB’s promise of an independent state of Biafra is a fiction. My promise to Igbos who do not understand the political realities of Nigeria that Biafra is about to be actualized “now” was a deceit. Biafra that contemplates actualization through the derogation of every ethnicity in Nigeria in the 21st century is a deceit.

Yet, fooled with this incoherent rhetoric and false hope, my Igbo brothers favored this deceit. I was absolutely wrong about this deceit and I apologize to IPOB members, followers and supporters. I erred by using the same rhetoric as that of the 1990s that led to civil war in Burundi and Rwanda, fueling passions that are always very difficult to extinguish.

IPOB fell like a pack of cards because I used a basket to collect water. Now, I have realized that mobilizing others requires that those doing the mobilization have their acts together, including, a sound strategy, and the right people in place. Despite the massive support garnered by IPOB in its quest for the actualization of the independent state of Biafra, the movement failed primarily because the mobilization was around elusive goals. Most importantly, IPOB failed because my leadership style can at best be characterized as braggadocio.

Looking back at my missteps in the past couple of years, I have realized that the mobilization by IPOB has been built on false hope, hence the inevitable failure. The truth is that propaganda on social media alone will not result in any lasting political gains. The more the incoherence of IPOB, MOSOB, BIM, Biafran Zionist, filters through, people get used to it and Igbo generations will waste their time on jamboree rather than constructive political engagement.

Thus the crux of this confession is to say that, what matters, in the end, is what is made out of the existing grievance and not the grievance itself. I have realized that if one shoots a lizard along his path as he climbs a zigzag tree, his supply of gunpowder will be exhausted. Please let us mobilize Ndigbo around a realistic goal rather than waste our gunpowder on social media.

Presently, there is a lull, except the familiar, though, damped misinformation by my IPOB Internet Soldiers. This is because there is still a vacuum, a big vacuum begging to be filled with reference to the mobilization of Igbo people around a vision that is in our best interest in Nigeria.

I am happy this time out in an unknown location has made me realize that at IPOB, we have our politics backward. Rather than overwhelming its adversaries, IPOB has been run aground by its own missteps. Our politics based on suspicion of other ethnic groups offered no answers to the cosmopolitan Nigeria with millions of Igbos in every corner working hard and earning a living.

From my unknown location and with my head cooling off now, it is so evident to me that nothing less than a fundamental rethinking of our modus operandi is required. At this moment that IPOB have demonstrated its incapacity of sound strategy and reasoning, a new politics should arise in its place. It is my hope that this new politics will not be a complaint-based like IPOB, but rather, a Renaissance similar to Martin Luther King’s positive vision as articulated in “I have a dream” speech. Let this new Renaissance replace IPOB’s doomsday discourse with aspirational and future-oriented one.

Please use this confession going forward to affect the much needed new path to Igbo Renaissance. Our collective path forward as Ndigbo in these very troubled times depend on what we do next.

Merry Christmas in advance. I love you all

(This unendorsed, yet classic confession of Nnamdi Kanu was coded and transmitted from his unknown location but decrypted by my Biafran Spirit).

http://saharareporters.com/2017/11/28/why-ipob-fell-house-cards-nnamdi-kanu%E2%80%99s-confessions-churchill-okonkwo

Where is Kanu sef?

CaptainJeffry:
Thank you. It has made the black man always cry and forget to bring out his own potentials.

She is an actress and has won the Academy Award. Sir, where is your own potential?

jamesjude:
I laugh in Chinese. This is another avenue for the stupid senators to loot our tax payers money. They are the real scam and pain to this country. Dose mmm operate specifically with any bank in Nigeria? THEY WANT TO STEAL OUR MONEY IN THE NAME OF HIRING A FOREIGN EXPERT TO DO WHAT? NIGERIANS PLEASE WISE UP, THIS GOVT IS THE SCAM NOT MMM.

Bros, how market? I am sure you bought some damaged goods. There is always a price to pay for foolishness, I only pity your family.

kkko:
If u thoroughly read this post u will understood and give a deep thought into this matter, u will have no option to agree that the issue is similar to what might have happened or occurred or even a resemblance of something that will definitely elude a mere human prowess and finally come to the conclusion that I have nothing to say....

You are crazy.

johnel2real:
it is better to keep quiet and be thought of as a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

And your point is?

Newboss:
All these boys without sense sef

Baldness is not a disease or sickness that needs to be cured. It's mostly genetic. Google is your friend, dummy!

So is sickle cell anaemia.

ghostofsparta:
One of the reasons this messed up of a country will continue to fester in corruption is because of fools like you all who have commented so far and the more fools who are about to write the same foolish comments along that same line of biasness. Why can't you all apply the same vehemence on all other super corrupt modafokas who has ruined this amalgamation, is Deziani the biggest fish in the sea of the corrupt? Is she the one that instituted a system which allows and encourages embezzlement and diversion of looted funds away, why focus on her alone ? Is she the one that implemented a weak structure that breeds and permits money laundering and missapropriation of federal money ? Why must she be crucified for the financial sins of all other corrupts psychos many who are greedily in government, regardless of which greedy political party is in power, all they know is to steal and loot while the country rots. You fools should ask your self when are the authorities in those middle-eastern nations where Islam is strong going to arrest, expose and prosecute corrupt Nigerian officials who hail from the Islamic north for laundering their looted money into their countries, no we will never hear of them, because 1slarm is the bond that keeps them one afterall it is kafferi's money stolen by Jihadists in position of power in a former British colony where the resources of the millions of infidels down south must be used to nurture the emirate system of the north in accordance to the laid-down Danfodian agenda while in turn utilized to sponsor their cause throughout the world where all enemies of 1zlam must be fought.

Was this written by a human being?

Chukwu Okike, over to you...