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Just look at the countries where cattle rearing is concentrated, there is no news of senseless bloodshed in those places.

Imagine, if the Fulanis control a large share of cattle like Brazil, there would be no living soul in the whole West Africa. Nigeria needs to think progressively, nomadic farming is not practicable anywhere in this 21st century.

67% of Nigerians are in abject poverty, more are in poverty.

The funny thing is that many of these people will still give, a portion of their meagre income, to their pastors so that God will bless them.

The Special Advisor to the President on Social Protection, Mrs. Maryam Uwais, says about 67 per cent of Nigerian population live below poverty line.

Uwais said this during a social protection Practitioners and Academics Dialogue summit on Thursday in Abuja. According to her, some of the social issues that plague Nigeria is high poverty, high unemployment rates, increased insecurity, gender inequality and poor literacy rates, among others.

She added that social protection was a response and a key strategy towards reducing poverty and socio-economic vulnerabilities in the population as well as to encourage G2p payments digitalisation and financial inclusion.

Uwais also said that the Federal Government has designed a four-point National Social Investment Programme (N-SIP), including Conditional Cash Transfer Programme (CCT). “This involves the direct transfer of N5,000 to the targeted poor and vulnerable households. “The Home Grown School Feeding (HGSF) assist vulnerable families, feed their classes, primary 1-3 school children one nutritious meal a day and provides an incentive to send them to school which is targeted to feed 5.5 million children.

“The N-Power Programme is designed to put 500,000 young Nigerian graduates on employment and empower or train 100,000 of non-graduates with necessary tools to create, develop and build projects that will change our communities, economy and nation.

“There is also Government Enterprise Empowerment Programme (GEEP), which is targeted to financial inclusion and empowerment loans programme to deliver maximum impact to the economically under- represented groups that targets about 1.6 million beneficiaries,’’ said the presidential aide.

She said for National Social Programme to move forward, the cooperation of stakeholders was key in actualising it in terms of knowledge, resources and skills for transformative undertaking. She therefore called on stakeholders to partner with the initiative, saying the complex issues facing Nigeria would be met with comprehensive solutions by collective efforts to invest in the strongest and most promising sector. Mr. Folunsho Okunmadewa, the Lead Specialist, World Bank, noted that the dialogue was important, saying there are very important stakeholders in the actualisation of the social protection agenda. He said the social protection agenda has grown big due to government concern, participation of private sector, civil sector and researchers excluding academics. “Through the academia research would be evident and we are talking of a dynamic issue that change on a daily basis. “Those who are on the state level and in operations unit are constantly aware of changing knowledge,’’ he said.

He added that the academia research on a daily basis and that they can use the research to help with the programme and collaborate in the state and national level. He added that some of the existing data could be analysed and given information that could help in the project which would bring about a mutual benefit. He also said that involving the academia was a huge step in bridging the gap. Mr. David Adejo, the National Co-ordinator, Youth and Employment and Social Support Operation (YESSO), also said that the involvement of academicians in the social protection agenda would boost the programme. He noted that academicians have the tools to collect data and also work for the existence of more evidence action. Adejo also said that the poor people were becoming more vulnerable and it needed the interventions which are ongoing.

The CDD Coordinator, Mr. Abdul Kareem, said the academia has a lot of research and community services which could be achieved especially in data collection. “We have so many primary health centres at the community level and with the help of the academics we can achieve some of the agendas because they can help us spread the news. “Food protection agenda is a very positive development, if academia gives us support and accessibility, our micro projects will increase. “We can’t go to a community and build a borehole when their need is not borehole and with the help of the academia we will be able to know the problem of each community through data processing,” he said.

Dr. Temitope Sinkaye, the National Programme Coordinator, said the social protection intervention has been taken to 21 states and about 300 households had been covered. She noted that the target was 1 million households and therefore called on the state governors to set up offices to enable them discharge their duties effectively.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/67-nigerians-live-poverty-line-presidential-aide/

If Spain can be Christianised, Nigeria is no exception.

enilove:
That is your opinion but not a fact.

The synagogue was a place of worship for the Jews and the custodians of the synagogues are the priests ,the Levite's.
The custodian of the church is the Pastor .

Abraham did not pay tithes to the Levites but God later gave the Levite's rights to receive tithes. Why ?
It is because tithes is for God and mearnt to show appreciation to Him. Why did God say " You have ROBBED ME" ? It is because tithes is for God . Any synagogue or church where the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is called is the House of God and you are expected to take your tithes there . The Pastor can use it for his welfare, church welfare and welfare of the people as the Holy Spirit directs him.

As I pointed out b4, we are expected to obey God and not because we want to be rich that should make a Christian to pay tithes.

The good deeds Jesus commanded us, has nothing to do with tithing. After your tithe, you should still be generous to the needy.
There is no one that will escape the judgement of God, even if he is the G.O of his church. They will give account of how they use the tithes and offerings. This we know because Jesus said so :
Matthew 7:22-23 KJV
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

That iniquity can be anything , stewardship inclusive.

Where did you get all these teachings from? Even the present day Isealistes do not tithe because it will be against the commandment of God given to them.

Pastors are not Levites, Levites belong to a Hebrew tribe of Levi, they receive tithe because they don't have any inheritance in Israel and not all Levites are priests (Only the descendants of Aaron are made Priest).

We are Christians in Nigeria, we are not Israelites and Pastors are not Levites.

Africa is a continent with lots of very poor people that have also been oppressed by their leaders over the years. When Penticostalism came with the wealth and health message, they embraced it because it offer them some kind of hope.

Pentecostal pastors then exploit the hope and fear of these poor ignorant people to enrich themselves.

It’s is no coincidence that 46% of Pentecostal Christians are in Africa. Another chunk of Pentecostal Christians (35%) are in Latin America (another poor continent).

elgramz:
He's right. The Bible actually said if we tithe, God will rebuke the devourer for our sake. And I believe it

Not the Christians, he was referring to the Israelites.

hahahaha see finishing

and funnier replies, these so-called 'men of God' are a disgrace to Africans

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Matthew Ashimolowo's tweet on Tithe and some very funny replies

[quote author=Prinq post=64052788][/quote]What do you expect, everybody will like to protect their investments.

Ogaonos:
for ur info.dangote was future was prophesy by late archbishop idahosa nd e has imams prayin 4 him.as 4 rest they practice wat God lik.cheerful giving dt d secret of america.dt wat we africans nd black lack dt 1 of d reasn we suffer.so oga atheist dnt cum here 2 preach atheism 2 me.only a fool dt preach/practice atheist in nigeria.even do u knw d story of dangote nd d family 4rm.u dnt knw dis men front 4 generals in d military tym.because den ther was no occult in govt lik nw.

Cheerful giving to who? and it very difficult to understand what you type. For your information, I am a Christian and you don’t know where I live.

Dangote has debunk that lie about Idahosa. Have you asked your question why no one in Idahosa’s church is as rich as Dangote abi he forgot to pray or prophesy into their lives too.
My brother, with this kind of thinking Nigeria will be forever backward and her people will suffer great poverty. Only village people think like this.

Ogaonos:
smh.educate me on wat.dt pastor prayers is nuthin/useless dt wil shuld wrkhard without pastor prayer wat ur write up means.

Please, who prayed for:

1. Singapore
2. Japan
3. China
4. UAE
5. Saudi Arabia
5. Malaysia
6.Dangote
7. Bill Gate
8. Mark Zuckerberg, etc

Ogaonos:
stop being ignorance hard wrk without spiritual support wouldnt get u anyway in nigeria.if u lik get 10phd u stil b unemployed.most successful pple na 3 things b ther secret eitha na devil or God bless dem or na illegal dem do.wit d way u talking i think u ar in ur 20's because in 9ja wen u reach 30's/40's u start feel d need 4 God.u need jesus(very strong man of God) wen doing biz.shey u knw more biz deals can b fraudulent.even ur own persn/blood brotha/sista fit sit dwn on opportunities 4 ur hardwrk nd u no go knw.let me giv a practical step u hav a strong man of God nd u doing a biz or hav a biz plans u go inform ur pastor mak em pray nd seek God wisdom /decisn on it.anotha is u doing biz u don sign m.o.u giv d names of d pple in d deal.no giv ur pastor any mou documents 2 ur pastor jux d names nt their contact.dis practice go sav u 4rm bein dupe.u fit do pure deal.ur associate fit tel u sey d deal na fraud so dt u go jonse d deal mak e chop ur share.

I am sorry, it will be an impossible task to educate you.

Penalty82:
That's what Freeze wants you to believe. He want to appear to be educating people but ending up making a fool of himself. If truly he knows the Bible teachings as he's making people to believe, why is he having a baby mama which is fornication?

What are you saying? Did you read what just typed?

TribesNG:
Daddy Freeze as you all know him is popular on this "tithe" payment issue and is specifically calling out Adeboye and RCCG on the tithe issue. Late last year we saw a video shared by Freeze himself that shows Popular Nigerian Pastor, TB Joshua supporting his comment on the to tithing issue where he said "it is better to give to the poor than to pay tithe".

Have we all forgotten about TB Joshua's 2016 Prophesy About Hillary Clinton winning the Election? Why is daddy freeze not attacking TB Joshua as being fake and deceiving Nigerians?


Because TB Joshua shows he helps the needy doesn't mean Those not showing it are not helping the needy. If you ask me, I'll prefer being prayed for to Prosper than to receive #200k or #500k to help myself in this country. And You all know TB Joshua Video tape each and everyone he helps, Whether you're a president or not, or a man who was rich before or not. Even if Dangote becomes broke he'll still decide to let the world knows that he helped him.

Come to think of it, When Jim Iyke gave his reasons for appearing on Emmanuel TV, Daddy Freeze didn't react. But if it is someone who was unknown said the same thing about RCCG, he would be the first to react.

Please Nairalanders what do u have to say about this?

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Hahahaha, Even the Chikok girls they have been praying for since 2014 are since in captivity or sold into slavery. You better collect the money, invest it and work hard to get out of poverty.

Who prayer don help for Nigeria? As I am typing this more than 10 Nigerians have slid into poverty, how is prayer helping them?

These people are just heartless .

So if I give money to my parents to eat and take care of themselves, they should go and give it to a Pastor who is having a surplus?

stinggy:
Who bore the cost of production?

There is no point spending money on printing if it can be shared freely online. They should only print for those who want the hard copies and are ready to pay for that, they should even be made to pay more cause hard copies are not eco-friendly.

kosisoOkafor:
And they will use your urine to keep printing it. Go and borrow sense.

There is no point printing, they can always share it online.

And how is it record-breaking when it has happened 80 years ago?

bezimo:
On what basis is your intepretation of the scriptures the correct one..so you now know how to interpret the scriptures better than Bishop Oyedepo..even the apostle of faith..my friend get lost with you baseless upside down submission. If you like believe the scriptures upside down..not my business.

bezimo:
All your statistics is garbage..you who is an outsider cannot be in a position to tell me about my church more than me that know the church and a number of its members. Not possible. We in Winners are not poor people. We are blessed people..so get lost with your rubbish statistics.

See comment! No wonder Ponzi schemes thrives in Nigeria...

Please, what is the average IQ of a typical Nigerian?

Nigerians are already poor, over 42.5% of Nigerians are already living in EXTREME poverty and 6 people are drifting into extreme poverty every minute. How else can it get worse?

My brother, the only people getting rich are your Pastors. God is MMM, He is not a money doubler.

Nuezha:
This is an internal memo. How did it get here?
Wolves among sheep.

Are you in a cult?

OneCorner:
So what do u want us to do now?
Go and close the church or kidnap d pastors?
thought this recent obsessions with pastors ended in 2017 sef

Want people to understand that some of these Pastors are just fraudsters and just like MMM are only after people’s money.

Or these? It will make sense to make some money selling stones

Awon weree, when you want to cherry-pick from the old testament to suit your pastor's business empire, you guys will quote Mattew 5:17. So do you guys obey all these laws in Leviticus 19?

bezimo:
You are a fat ignorant liar. You are not a member of Winners so your submissions are invalid and maliciously construed.
I 've been a member of Winners Chapel for over 2 decades, I am not poor or needy, my family is the same, my friends who worship at Winners. Its the same. So what nonsense statistics are you talking about.

God gave Bishop Oyedepo this scripture when he was mandated (To get back home and make my people rich) to open up the prosperity dimensions of the gospel to Gods people 2 cor 6:10

As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.


So your statistics is baseless and garbage.I stand not to be corrected because i cant deny what my eyes has seen and my hands have handled by the blessings of Lord that I have enjoyed since planting myself in Winners chapel.

...........and stop quoting the bible out of context to suit your defective teaching. Paul was not talking about riches, he was talking out his HARDSHIP and how to persevere for Christ despite the challenges.

bezimo:
You are a fat ignorant liar. You are not a member of Winners so your submissions are invalid and maliciously construed.
I 've been a member of Winners Chapel for over 2 decades, I am not poor or needy, my family is the same, my friends who worship at Winners. Its the same. So what nonsense statistics are you talking about.

God gave Bishop Oyedepo this scripture when he was mandated (To get back home and make my people rich) to open up the prosperity dimensions of the gospel to Gods people 2 cor 6:10

As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.



So your statistics is baseless and garbage.I stand not to be corrected because i cant deny what my eyes has seen and my hands have handled by the blessings of Lord that I have enjoyed since planting myself in Winners chapel.

So all winner people are rich abi? And yet Nigeria has more than 46% of her population living in ABJECT poverty.

See delusion ooo .

For your information, more than 90% of Nigerians are living poverty sef (a country where people earning $8/day are considered middle class).

Like I said before, 4 in 10 persons you see in your church are in ABJECT poverty, the only rich person in your church is your pastor. The fact that they are telling you that you are rich or this year is your year doesn't make it true.

For your information, I didn't make up the statistic, you can look it up yourself. Stop deceiving yourself.

See where rich people live, some of them are not even Christians o; and see your country 'where God has instructed your Pastor to enrich its people'. Nigeria is a sick country but her citizen will not accept that fact. Until we understand that the country is very poor and accept it as our responsibility, we will continue to suffer and smile.

MOTIVEBI:
Nonsense movement... Daddy Freeze and is supporters are inviting the rod of God on their lives.

So God still dey use rod? Technology never reach that side?