Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 4:48pm On Feb 11, 2022 |
Some men can be funny... 2 odd & interesting events happened yesterday. 1, was a man roll down his window to ask my rider for phone number. She kuku give em 2, drop off a rider, as I was coming out of her street, a man in truck flag me and I pull over to know what's going on. He walk up to me and like she has been following us from when she stopped over to get some stuffs, am I into Uber? Really! But I'm don't for the day. He goes on like OK, please he only need the phone number of the lady I just dropped. I smile like bro code, no wahala, but half way into calling her number, I just start calling rubbish. Felt is wrong to give out someone details like that. The hustle for oven is not easy in this lagos  |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 7:26am On Feb 09, 2022 |
eyinola: many times i hv taken a more higher fare on indriver than bolt , one day I was even wondering why abi this guy wan use indriver run me street he offered 5400 when i checked on bolt it was 4500-5200 and am paying less than 10% in comission, sometimes most indriver riders already has the mind set of surge on bolt so they just booked on indriver for peace of mind and to avoid BP ;Datkwast they already know what they are paying , and most times the correct ones will do ur transfer like 15mins to destination sef Outside having surge mindset, some are just OK with the fixed price regardless. It's better to avoid story and be at peace. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 7:13am On Feb 09, 2022 |
adolphus08: Sorry but none of those companies are loyal to you. Especially bolt. They are only loyal to their money. Riders enter your car and become bosses that can rate you low and get you deplatformed for not destroying your car for them. Riders will be acting as they like in a car and giving you attitude and you will just be like a mumu praying for the ride to quickly end so the rider can leave your car in peace and good rating. Do they compensate you anytime they send you to bad roads that spoil your ac compressor or tyres? Abeg every body in this hustle, both drivers and e hailing companies are only loyal to themselves and their money. Sure I know this boss, I don't sit on a particular app, but those bolt guys are the most callous human on earth. If I have my way, I'll never go back to that app. How could they be blocking drivers after locked down? Curfew is 8pm, they are sending a trip of 20 mins around 6 30pm. They just don't put drivers into consideration, just as they also don't put riders as well. They are pure criminals with their profiteering skills. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 10:47pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
davit: Now I know why you have not moved back to Bolt. FYI, I'm back with Indriver too. Bolt cannot come and be doing me anyhow.  bolt still have edge over indriver, but indriver helps me to plan myself. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 10:36pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
Djdamian: Are 2007-2010 models of Toyota camry a good choice for E-hailing ? Not bad, we have much of it on the platform. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 10:26pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
GeneralZodd: Naaah bro! ...On a surge of 1.9 all through d day your 15k is my 30k. I drive on INdrive too I know what is obtainable. What made you think Indriver don't have surge? Do you know indriver fare has been better than bolt lately? Today a rider booked both bolt and indriver... she said, bolt was giving her estimation of 1100 and I gave her 1600, but she cancelled the bolt cos the way I talked over the phone. For me I think if you can meet your target from both ends, just flow with what rock your boat. Can't be giving myself rating problem, you cancel and all those headache. Over thousand trips and my rating is 4.8 |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 3:41pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
BAZ001: Mbok where you take by fuel easily day in day out ? Give us strategy plsss  Small thing queue don reach mainland Bovas and Nnnpc berger |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 3:40pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
Lindodo20: Here's the basis: one billion litres of adulterated fuel was imported in the past month or so, by the usual suspects. It has only just begun to show up in the pumps and vehicles are being damaged by it. So retail marketers i.e. fuel stations are refusing to load it from the depots, because they know once word gets round their fuel has water inside they wont be able to sell...this scarcity might last for much longer than you imagine. I know, but individual companies do ship in products and they don't depend on NNPC. So they should be abe to curtail this with less ado. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 3:37pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
GeneralZodd: The Beauty of INdrive is Freedom and Fair Rating, but you can't compare it to BOLT when there is surge. Bolt is better. You make X2 Don't know much, I just know my 15k is your 20k |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 3:34pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
eyinola: if drivers can be u united and boycott this apps especially this useless bolt new policy for one week aswear they will loose millions and maybe by then they will know their livelihood is in drivers hand.. just imagine for the ant drivers that can makes 200K in a week bolt will take a whooping 50K as commission now tell me if those drivers can boycott the app do u know how many millions they will loose that week? By the time they can't pay rent in lekki and pay staffs again just maybe thier senses will bounce back.. some people will come here and say is not by force to drive , bolt is not forcing anyone bla bla , agreed but this is called partnership, they gave me app and i make money for them I do a trip of 1,000 naira they takes 250 am left with 750 if I deduct fuel on dat trip and cost of maintenance how much do i hv left for mysef as if that was not enough now conditioning drivers to take all trips, I hv same issue one day a stupid guy request came in and I was already driving to pu voom he cancelled I was like hahaaa because i was like 2 mins away , he kept requesting and canceling in my mind I was like shay this person requesting know me b4 ni and doesn't wants me to come pick him ..I left uber since November but now am ready to come back and abandon bolt for now till dey hv sense uber and indriver combo for now My people will say "it's in turbulence time, we know people who are with us". A homely bird does not jolly with one in good times and desert them, when things are not forthcoming.
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 11:19am On Feb 08, 2022 |
MoonlightDrive: With indriver model you can truly consider yourself as an independent contractor, there are no consequences for rejecting unfavorable bids from your pax. You can also quote the price you are willing to do the job Uber/bolt want us to he their employees without enjoying any form of employment benefits. This is just exploitation, this is simply the most crude and savage form of capitalism. I don't trust any of this app company, indriver may have the marlet tomorrow and start doing rubbish. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 11:17am On Feb 08, 2022 |
GeneralZodd: small small e go reach your area. Scarcity just dey start.
Started from the Island on Saturday, e don reach some part of mainland today. By weekend everywhere in Lagos go dey find fuel to buy. The queue on island is mad compare to mainland, but since there's no base or flimsy reason for this scarcity, I don't think* it's going to drag for long. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 9:40am On Feb 08, 2022 |
chillex8: Tank filled. Waiting for surge. No surge, no work. It will take time for u to know there's PMS, got mine on ease and filling stations are opening. No suffer for nothing boss. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 7:59am On Feb 08, 2022*. Modified: 8:57am On Feb 08, 2022 |
73O9: These all boil down to, "drivers are crumbies, so we don't need them to make policies ".
To all that think they are independent employees, no you ain't! Boss na contract una they run, if the terms and conditions are not favourable, move to the next. Bolt have been sending me different mail to come back, but I find home with indriver. Once they start acting up #WeMoove |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 4:04pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tojahh: Baz001 So u r not aware Baz001 left this forum? Chilex8 sent him to rabbit hole nah. Since!!
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 11:24am On Feb 05, 2022*. Modified: 7:40pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
Barbiturate: Since I've been doing this hustle, I've not been able to save 500k.
Last week I spent almost 50k fixing one thing or the other, in my car Hmmm... is the car yours? How often to you fix it? How long have you been driving? How much do you pay for rent? Married with kid (s)? Attachment to friends and family? Jollification level? These are the questions you need to search thro. The way I see it, if a lighter note driver can do 380/ 400k monthly Gas - 75k Savings - 100k Life drama - 205k You necessarily don't have to finish the 205k on life drama's, just know those are funds for issues beyond your control and any surplus is kept for future unavoidable bills. Not actual, but if you fine tune your blue print and priorities enough, no how you will drive for 6/7 months and say you can't save 500k, unless there's a fixed problem that consumes your income. Remember I didn't add juicy offine that comes our way evert other day. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 11:33pm On Feb 04, 2022*. Modified: 2:38pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
3RNEST: Did u read his post So to u it's not side hustle? What is side hustle? To my understanding, I think is what you do to support your main source of income. Is ehailling worth the effort? That's a chat for another dat. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 11:29pm On Feb 04, 2022*. Modified: 6:03am On Feb 05, 2022 |
davit: It is still side hustle to some of us though. I 100% agree with you boss, side hustle is relative. Some times side hustle do give money then the presumed what I do, but people stick around for pension, uncertainty and longivety. For me I'll say to each is tent, just know thy self.... I've seen officials that are into fraud, I've seen bankers that they major focus on their job is to deal. A lot is going on around people unknowingly and using them as yardstick to measure yourself, one may go off track completely. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 10:59pm On Feb 04, 2022*. Modified: 11:36am On Feb 05, 2022 |
ameristu: What people are failling ro realize is that this side hustle would not make you rich or be able to buy an house, it would be able to buy you beer, pay dstv subscription and child's school fee, for other pertinent issues like rent and getting married, this hustle is not for that.
If you want to buy land or build house, this is not where you can make that type of money.
Anyone saying this business is not sustainable, it doesn't make sense, this is something you do for spare change and you shouldn't even be thinking you want to re-coup the money you used in buying the car, if you get the money fine, if you don't keep it moving. There are better paying jobs than ehailing. I think this issue has been overflocked. For a wizkid or Davido there are thousands of kids wasting, all because they want to be like them. This take me back to my growing days. I grew in a neighbourhood where almost everybody happens to be a footballer (if anyone here knows Boarder along Isheri road). Those were the days we go to field and play our soul out, for some they didn't sit on that alone as they add school or other venture to playing football. Some focused only on that football... morning is training, night is training. Seyi Olofinjanu was fortunate to make it to the big screen, some division 3 or 4 in an unknown country, but at least can do laulau whenever they are around. You see the ones that were unfortunate are the Agents we have today making life unbearable for those in search of accommodation. In a nutshell, the better percent of peeps wasted their lives playing football with the aim of going professional. Just this night, I meet my town brother and he broke the news of resigning from his bank work. Someone that just bought car worth 3. Something million last year with children and wife to feed. I ask why? He goes on telling how stressful the job was, in a nutshell wot he just embark on is another uncertain journey of online stuffs. If you ask me about ehailing? I'll say it's a means to an end. Sit, ask yourself questions, have a target in mind or purpose and aim for it without missing. Fine, if you want to go into full blown transportation business and you have a structured pattern to manage fleets. All in all in my quiet moment I think thro things... my friend in PW.C woke one morning, bone the work and find his way to US.A. Another one in K.P.M.G woke one morning and move to Canada. The ones in Turkey is there, Chuchmoore Japa. Even my uncle in is 50s relocated with his family. A navy man in my area after retirement in his 60s Japa. Please figure all these things out and lets ask ourselves questions. If you can save 5, 6, 7m doing this uber job? Why on earth can't you use such money to better things around you. Just focus on what you are after and don't let the wave or noise around distract you. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 7:49pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Lindodo20: How can you drive for twelve hours and call it a 'side-hustle' what time have you got to do anything else?
Even bolt knows you can only make useful money if you drive for the whole day, that's why they entice you with bonuses tied to long hours online....side hustle indeed. The matter tire me, I've said driving is stressful. Staying those hours behind wheel and I still have to crack my head for real hustle is another level on it own. Everybody go shall deh alright one day. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 4:23pm On Feb 04, 2022 |
Dailyparrot: Opposite of progression is not regression but retrogression.
Now you know  Congratulations on the market you just bought ... we r always watching from far.
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 9:51pm On Feb 03, 2022 |
Felicity001: I don exclude the guy from our re-union already... Lol  |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 9:48pm On Feb 03, 2022 |
kanuisagoat: Yes, I have always maintained that no one should drive forever. It should be a step to greater heights.
I do admit that I miss it though. I was making more when I was driving myself than I'm making now with three vehicles on rentals and it's now looking like a waste of funds.
I'm planning to sell off all the vehicles and divest into okada business(not in Lagos) but I'm being careful and taking my time. This is deep, I have always been scared of giving a car out on rental. No offensive gesture to both parties, I just wonder how they get by. If I buy a corolla of maybe 2.6m and let's say 2.8 to put it together. Putting it on rental will take at least two and half years to get invested capital. Ķolewerk! I don't have that patient. How dru and Oga Uche gets by is wonderment. Just take it easy from here boss, you've been here and see other side of life, guess it's a bittersweet one to say the least. And one thing I've noticed, not all drivers are bad, they just can't go beyond their capacity regardless of the boosting they made, while trying to convince the owner. A friend told me his driver dropped his car with the excuse of business is dull this period, he won't b able to meet payment. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 9:37pm On Feb 03, 2022 |
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 5:39am On Feb 03, 2022*. Modified: 6:23am On Feb 03, 2022 |
GeneralZodd: INdriver has started paying Tax to Lagos State Government, after the incidence of Task Force arresting drivers happened. I noticed some changes on their dashboard earnings, V.A.T is now included with commission.
So any arrest by law enforcement agencies regarding you using inDriver as illegal, Resist the arrest. They remove VA.T does not mean they are paying, until they come clean about it. Walk with everything you have in this Lagos, so they don't use you as scape goat. Lagos is a crazy city, we survive by grace. At Berger bus stop, you will see Danfo stopping beside the bus stop to lift and drop passengers. Private cars will try it and RRS will pull out from no where. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 5:35am On Feb 03, 2022*. Modified: 7:30am On Feb 03, 2022 |
Havertz10: drafting it out will be hard but its fundamentals are feasible, sustainable and with growth potential for all parties
let me give you some context for starters, uber doesnt make money, they provide customers with very cheap prices, guess the idea was to adjust it at scale but it hasnt scaled like expected thats due to so many factors but i think the main reason is because people look at the venture as a risky investment, thats why autonomous driving is the new buzz word for the future of the business model because the truth is you need plenty drivers for the system to work well
whats the roi for 2.5m using uber? considering the risk that your driver has to face and degradation to the car, and the drivers in particular are seriously missing out, the only way uber works is at scale and to get uber to scale you need customers, the problem here is while you need more customers enticed by cheap prices, you also need your percentage of drivers to increase to make the entire business model solvent, fewer drivers and cheap customers, means that the drivers arent earning enough and the business model will struggle cause it's not a worthwhile investment for drivers
for every 10k you make you are causing ~4k worth of passive damage to that car, and with more than 200,000 moving parts, those errors can escalate real quick, if we factor other variables, the odds are stacked against you as a driver or company owner, that's why social mobility is very low in its current form, logistics is a very profitable business model but it requires scale to work, if you dont scale it properly, it wouldnt work, what i propose is a method to the madness, orderliness in the system and a process that allows pricing to be defined by supply and demand
customer drop a location and time for the trip and its shared to various drivers that are in that proximity and they all pick a price that is favorable to them for instance, ajah to v.i can have a range of between 3000 and 5000, a driver can propose 2500 maybe he is heading home and such a trip is bearly an inconvenience, if not then it's 5000 but each trip must have a guaranty of profit for the driver, you can avoid saturation within various hot spots with cost benefit features for drivers, take a particular figure every month for insurance and people can actually build a life with such investments
you asked for an example
Let me use the ride sharing cause I personality think that there is money in that space, one thing that I noticed was that after work hours, most people drive their cars empty and its not because they cant share the ride, there isn’t a good system to link prospective riders to prospective customers, think about how many people will get home quicker, limiting traffic congestions, if more cars on the roads assisted in carrying passengers, a driver can be going to Ajah by 4pm, he advertises his route and people that will be along his path can book rides to meet up along the expressway for a fee, instead of driving empty, a driver can carry 3 passenger or more depending on how many you want to accommodate and also the preference of the passengers, if you want to share with less people the price increases, people can make serious money while doing it, this can happen anywhere in lagos on any route, based of the way Nigerian society stigmatize certain things, you can give it a name that doesn’t paint the driver in a bad light and makes such services appear hip like “carpooling ride shares”
if you are working in vi and you stay at Ajax, you can find ride shares that will leave when you close for a price that is slightly more that you would have paid using a bus and also provide comfort
I haven’t even factored the societal good that it will bring, if its properly regulated and maintained, with strict guidelines, and top class customer service because people need to understand that you care about them, if you have cars on the road doing this everyday, some can use it to fuel their car home from work each day, some will bond, others will build relationships, business ideas and you can even provide a monthly service at a discount for riders that transverse a particular route everyday and can collectively share a ride, you give random drivers the jobs and charge the riders a monthly fee for the service I don't agree with you about Uber not making enough money, they have the market, but choose to play standard and here we are... everything works the other way in this country. Lately, I've read about moving Lagos for the rest of your life, it kind of come off in an insulting manner, but I ask myself, what if one choose to stick to transportation business for the rest of his life? The basic thing is making profits, expending. The way drivers are view in this country is 100% for the low life. This goes a long way to tell you we are not mentally ready. Do you blame the riders? No, every other factors contribute to this. About passive wear out in vehicles and the roi on 2.5m car? If you invest 1m in a year, what's should be your expectation after 12 months? A normal business if not hypes will tell you 30% of profit after capital. Do ehailing drivers make more than that in a year? My learned colleagues should be able to answer this. The only comparison I see here is someone that invest 2.5 million trying to compare roi with someone that invest 80 million on other ventures. So it's normal for fixed factors to worn out, the focus should be making adequate return wrt human capital time, beacuse these is our lives and time spent is irreversible. And about ride share? This has already been on the roll, some workers on the island have people they carry at price that is convenient for them and those you saw driving empty may do it for the prestige. They won't even give their coworkers a lift to tell you how they value their privacy. My point to you is riders are already bleeding with pricing and drivers need to build 1004 flats via ehailing. Take for instance, if a rider pays 7000 from mainland to island and back to mainland for 5 working days, that's 140k in a month and he/she may still use ehailing to church on Sundays, every other outing on saturday's. How much do you think they take homes as salary? The better chunck has gone to transportation and they still have wardrobe to take care. Now you wonder why ladies are the ones taking rides more. There's a need to balance pricing and how many trips a driver can do in a day in other to keep his/her tools prep for long and health as well. There's really no gain in doing extreme cheap trips, but quality trips with good returns. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 4:28pm On Feb 02, 2022 |
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 4:27pm On Feb 02, 2022 |
BAZ001: Pope stop posting short man in-front of ladies chest and mentioning me. Fk001, see what Pope is posting. Is that not nude ? Warn Pope too naah...   Baz001 when drawing turn nude? It's just an ordinary illustration. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 2:04pm On Feb 02, 2022 |
eyinola: If u like no get side hustle..learn from felicity01 This business is a good business if one is in a good location. Back in 2014, 50kg is sold for 10k and 4 times 12.5kg at 3500 can be obtain from 50kg. That's 4k profit... if an outlet can sell 5 cylinders of 50kg in a day, that's 20k per day. |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 1:54pm On Feb 02, 2022*. Modified: 3:10pm On Feb 02, 2022 |
SHOOPSYN: @BAZ001, who is next on your archive list for cruise Can you combine Uche Pearl, Pop and deedee or something. We want informative, educative and lamba kind of cruise. Baz001 no mind shoopsyn oo, no carry load wey pass you... I no get energy for boxing, but I get juju sha. You can bring it on if you know you are ready to be farting for the next 10 months at 10 mins interval. The rest is for your riders to determine wot to do to you, we will just be looking at you from far once we accompany you to your place of karma.
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Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 10:33pm On Feb 01, 2022*. Modified: 6:08am On Feb 02, 2022 |
Havertz10: I have had this idea for a while but I didn't know who to give it to but here is it basically
Uber is a service, and there should be flexibility
I think you guys should bang together and form your own service, it will be an annual membership scheme, each passenger will pay money per trip in small doses like 40 naira to cover insurance cost for all drivers for damages based on the quality of the car, then add a flexible price per kilometer based on location + time and send the proposals to drivers in that zone, they will propose a price to the rider based on their experience traversing that route and how much they want the job
Like all things, riders will pick based on price offered and rating
Everything can be decentralized and only a small change can be removed per transaction like 20naira for service maintenance and other benefits
For those drivers that like to hug urban areas, you can put various features like 5 trips per area, but you have encourage them to drive in areas that they are more accustomed to, preferably where they live, little intuitive features like that to keep everybody happy and the service solvent
Add ride sharing, the passenger will book a destination at a time and if a driver is close, he picks them and they share the ride cheaply, social media people will love it, at a fair price it will drag with public transportation, billions of naira on offer, particularly if you have broad participation, Nigerians have stigma issues so you can call that service another name and any driver that does bad once is removed, people will meet and socialize, it will be a trending habit, too many empty cars on the road
I feel for you guys, if you have a union and band together, you can make a good living if you love driving while getting good money
There can be loans and credit facilities, insurance for it's drivers, even pensions, even car damage and maintenance insurance, the options are endless, social mobility is very possible in your industry, you people just need to realize that you are more important than the middle man You have spoken well, but this goes beyond evaluation. What you are saying is more like forming a union that will eliminate middle man, that way rides become cheap somewhat which lead to increase in turn around time for drivers due to increase in riders. The first problem is unionism, an average black man is not really good with handling power, transparent and accountable. The second is the government, one can't avoid not paying tax for long. They will obviously find a way to get their dues. About the empty cars, I'll say is the season. Well! Reduction in price in place where there's no heavy percentage would have generate more riders. That's true, but every driver have a limit enough, there's a limit fixed factor (driver) can accept variable factors ( riders), else he will break down. Which means, a driver should project a number of trips with good return per day to stay afloat in business with good health. There's really no value in doing cheap15 trips per day at almost the same rate of doing 5 reasonable trips at not so friendly price per day regardless of turn around time. Humble submission |
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by pope191: 6:53pm On Feb 01, 2022*. Modified: 8:54pm On Feb 01, 2022 |
Muhammadson2020: Pope any update on Task Force arresting inDrivers, to ON the App dey fear me especially around Ikeja Axis Yet to see any, but avoid bus stop trips, avoid new riders as much as you can. Estate trips and known indriver clients are better for now. |