Janosky:


Good point about marathon race.
1 Timothy 4:8
"Bodily training is beneficial for a little but godly devotion is beneficial for all things"...."

Bros, pls Use your Bible, show this forum where Paul extolled annual Birthday celebrations.

Can you prove to us from your Bible, show this forum where Paul or Jesus, any part of the scriptures condemned celebration of birthday?

Emusan:


Lemme rewrite this for you because the list isn't complete!

Pharaoh, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Herod, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Russell, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Rutherford, a pagan celebrated his birthday.
Knorr, a pagan celebrated his birthday.

Birthday is pagan practice.



You just proof to us with this statement that

Russell, Rutherford, Knorr aren't SERVING the true God.

That's beautiful!

Hallelujah !!!!
Emusan the LIENUS has proven to Nairaland that himself is a pagan, celebrates Christmas and his own birthdays.
Bros, complete that list, add your name there,jare

Janosky:


Hallelujah !!!!
Emusan the LIENUS has proven to Nairaland that himself is a pagan, celebrates Christmas and his own birthdays.
Bros, complete that list, add your name there,jare

Yes oooo

Just as JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil has proven to Nairaland that his founder and his team are pagan as well, celebrate Christmas and their own birthday.

Glory be to Almighty God.

Janosky:


Good point about marathon race.
1 Timothy 4:8
"Bodily training is beneficial for a little but godly devotion is beneficial for all things"...."

Bros, pls Use your Bible, show this forum where Paul extolled annual Birthday celebrations.

Pagans invented music, 24 hours clock, reading, playing instruments, Keeping pets, etc.
Pagans invented virtually everything. All the servants of Jehovah did in the bible was to select some practices and reject others. Those rejected were clearly spelt out and you have not shown me where birthday celebration was one of them.

GeneralDae:

Just as pagans invented music, 24 hours clock, reading, playing instruments, Keeping pets, etc.
Pagans invented virtually everything. All the servants of Jehovah did in the bible was to select some practices and reject others. Those rejected were clearly spelt out and you have not shown me where birthday celebration was one of them.

You didn't even add the most important one

"Wedding Ring" which is a pagan practice but his organization still using till today.

Emusan:


Can you prove to us from your Bible, show this forum where Paul or Jesus, any part of the scriptures condemned celebration of birthday?

* 2 Timothy 3:16 (Compare John 15:15)
" All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong"

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, Did Paul & Jesus teach you both verses are inspired by God?

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, did the holy Scriptures inspired by God teach you that birthday celebrations is a pagan practice ?

Are birthdays celebrations "special days" to pagans?

Galatians 4:8-11
8 Formerly, when you did not know God,(A) you were slaves(B) to those who by nature are not gods.(C) 9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God(D)—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces[a]? [/b]Do you wish to be enslaved(E) by them all over again?(F) 10 [b]You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!(G) 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you
@ Galatians 4:8-11, did your Bible says you must shun "special days" of pagans?

Emusan:


You didn't even add the most important one

"Wedding Ring" which is a pagan practice but his organization still using till today.

Oh really? I thought they were like deeper life who argues that it was used by Aaron to make a calf, so therefore it's rejected.

Janosky:


* 2 Timothy 3:16 (Compare John 15:15)
" All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong"

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, Did Paul & Jesus teach you both verses are inspired by God?

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, did the holy Scriptures inspired by God teach you that birthday celebrations is a pagan practice ?

Are birthdays celebrations "special days" to pagans?

@ Galatians 4:8-11, did your Bible says you must shun "special days" of pagans?

The way you goofed when you brought in the issue of NO SERVANTS OF JEHOVAH celebrated birthday, you're goofing again.

I didn't see in any scripture you cites where BIRTHDAY was OUTRIGHTLY CONDEMNED.

Bible didn't TEACH that birthday celebration is a PAGAN PRACTICE, you can provide the scripture.

lying liar JWs like your father the devil

GeneralDae:

Oh really? I thought they were like deeper life who argues that it was used by Aaron to make a calf, so therefore it's rejected.

No! That was the hypocrisy we're talking about them.

GeneralDae:

Oh really? I thought they were like deeper life who argues that it was used by Aaron to make a calf, so therefore it's rejected.

Wedding ring is ornaments made of gold.
Were such ornaments used in Jehovah's worship at the temple in Jerusalem?

Janosky:


* 2 Timothy 3:16 (Compare John 15:15)
" All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong"

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, Did Paul & Jesus teach you both verses are inspired by God?

@ Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, did the holy Scriptures inspired by God teach you that birthday celebrations is a pagan practice ?

Are birthdays celebrations "special days" to pagans?

Galatians 4:8-11
8 Formerly, when you did not know God,(A) you were slaves(B) to those who by nature are not gods.(C) 9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God(D)—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces[a]? [/b]Do you wish to be enslaved(E) by them all over again?(F) 10 [b]You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!(G) 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you
@ Galatians 4:8-11, did your Bible says you must shun "special days" of pagans?

Galatians 4v8-11 is not talking about birthdays but against observing special seasons of judaism in order to be justified by the law. The Galatians were listening to Judaizers or people who taught that some Jewish ceremonies were to be observed to please God. You are reading that scripture wrongly.

You are the one inserting birthday celebration there. Consider Romans 14, where you are advised to do what you do in good conscience and in honour to the lord. Just like in Ecclesiastes, it is recommended that in whatever you do, the right intention matters.

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The way you goofed when you brought in the issue of NO SERVANTS OF JEHOVAH celebrated birthday, you're goofing again.

I didn't see in any scripture you cites where BIRTHDAY was OUTRIGHTLY CONDEMNED.

Bible didn't TEACH that birthday celebration is a PAGAN PRACTICE, you can provide the scripture.

[s]lying liar JWs like your father the devil[[/s]/quote]

The LIENUS dey console himself

Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, Are birthdays celebrations "special days" to pagan Pharaoh and Herod?

Galatians 4:8-11 did your own Bible condemn your observance of "special days" celebrated by pagans?


Shey Your Rice and chicken is more important than obeying Galatians 4:8-11 ?

Janosky:
The LIENUS dey console himself
Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6, Are birthdays celebrations "special days" to pagan Pharaoh and Herod?
Galatians 4:8-11 did your own Bible condemn your observance of "special days" celebrated by pagans?
Shey Your Rice and chicken is more important than obeying Galatians 4:8-11 ?

I understand your frustration and lack of scriptural understanding.

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil

Here is what Paul says aslo:

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. (Romans 14:5-6)

You just keep going back and forth my guy, as i've told you we've got a heritage and that is what you'll see in the history of our people we are different from all other people, we are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Act 15:14
So don't think our ways will ever rhyme with yours! John 15:19

GeneralDae:

So you think the bible contains everything? Do you also require the bible to tell you whether to have pets, or what to do every second of your life? Scriptures weren't written for that purpose. Even Ecclesiastes says drink and make merry, just be wise and remember God always, that's all. There's nothing wrong in making merry, just do not make merry or celebrate like the world e.g Herod, Pharaoh, etc. The bible never said you shouldn't celebrate birthdays. If you give me such a verse, then I would agree it is not just the doctrine of your church but a commandment you read from the bible.

Emusan:


@color....The evidence is Russell and his team.

Or are Russell and his team not servants of Jehovah again?

And they celebrated CHRISTMAS alongside Babylon the great.

Emusan:


And as their religious leaders are fallible and their light getting brighter, celebration of birthday can find it's way back into their doctrines.

The question is, during the time of Russell, do you think Russell and his team didn't provide evidence for celebrating birthday to those who opposed it?

That's a big question for them to answer. Russell died celebrating Christmas I am very sure he has a reason for joining every other christians back then to celebrate it.

Janosky:


Achorladey sifia pains.
Bros, STOP WAILING and your hypocrisy, you no dey use technological devices?

Jesus Christ no use scrolls, how were the scrolls produced during his time?

The invention of Gutenberg Printing Press led to mass production of that Bible in your shelf.
Bros, go ahead and burn all the books in your house & bring the evidences here, throw all your electronic gadgets away,else you're just making empty noise.
Envy and jealousy. .

Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all.

Achorladey sifia pains

The is your trademark I know. Replace the name with yours to show you love me like yourself.

Bros, STOP WAILING and your hypocrisy, you no dey use technological devices?

Hypocrisy keh, na you dey run your mouth on top the wisdom of the world is foolishness to lump everything that don't dance to your tune. Abeg thank Satan for giving you ZOOM that Jehovah your God has blessed in order for your meeting arrangements to continue.


Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

Job 1:4 His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.....NIV

Job 3:1 After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth........NIV

Job 1: 4 Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day.* They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.........NWT 2013

*Or “at the house of each one in his turn.”

It was after this that Job began to speak and to curse the day of his birth.*.......NWT 2013

*Lit., “curse his day.”

Job 1:4 And his sons went and held a banquet+ at the house of each one* on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them......NWT 1984

Job 3:1 It was after this that Job opened his mouth and began to call down evil upon his day ......NWT 1984

Job 1:4 And his sons went and feasted in their houses, everynone his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them...........KJV

Job 3:1 After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day.........KJV

Let see how the Mr educated literate manipulation begins with concordance and interlinear

Emusan:


You didn't even add the most important one

"Wedding Ring" which is a pagan practice but his organization still using till today.

Add ZOOM APP to it. Na Satan's agent e.g PAGANS create the app used for their meetings.

achorladey:


Achorladey sifia pains

The is your trademark I know. Replace the name with yours to show you love me like yourself.

Bros, STOP WAILING and your hypocrisy, you no dey use technological devices?

Hypocrisy keh, na you dey run your mouth on top the wisdom of the world is foolishness to lump everything that don't dance to your tune. Abeg thank Satan for giving you ZOOM that Jehovah your God has blessed in order for your meeting arrangements to continue.


Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

Job 1:4 His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.....NIV

Job 3:1 After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth........NIV

Job 1: 4 Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day.* They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.........NWT 2013

*Or “at the house of each one in his turn.”

It was after this that Job began to speak and to curse the day of his birth.*.......NWT 2013

*Lit., “curse his day.”

Job 1:4 And his sons went and held a banquet+ at the house of each one* on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them......NWT 1984

Job 3:1 It was after this that Job opened his mouth and began to call down evil upon his day ......NWT 1984

Job 1:4 And his sons went and feasted in their houses, everynone his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them...........KJV

Job 3:1 After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day.........KJV

Let see how the Mr educated literate manipulation begins with concordance and interlinear

The Bros says the sons of Job is his role model, NOT Jesus Christ.
Bros, Na Jesus Christ first you know Job 1:4 ,yet he no do birthday celebrations.
That's very instructive


"When Job’s sons “held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day” it should not be supposed that they were celebrating their birthdays. (Job 1:4) “Day” in this verse translates the Hebrew word yohm and refers to a period of time from sunrise to sunset. On the other hand, “birthday” is a compound of the two Hebrew words yohm (day) and hul·leʹdheth. The distinction between “day” and one’s birthday may be noted in Genesis 40:20, where both expressions appear: “Now on the third day [yohm] it turned out to be Pharaoh’s birthday [literally, “the day (yohm) of the birth (hul·leʹdheth) of Pharaoh”].” So it is certain that Job 1:4 does not refer to a birthday, as is unquestionably the case at Genesis 40:20.


The difference between Genesis 40:20 & Job 1:4 is very luminous.
Achorladey means that the Church Fathers wey live before him no know say Job 1:4 exist before they wrote their findings down for posterity.
Bros, go & verify that reference works (in the Screenshot) and free yourself from Mumu GIBBERISH

Emusan:


[s]I understand your frustration and lack of scriptural understanding.

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil[/s]

Here is what Paul says aslo:

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. (Romans 14:5-6)

See as Mr LIENUS dey twist the holy Scriptures, dey DECEIVE himself !
Paul wrote Romans in 56 C.E, & John the apostle wrote Revelation in 96CE.
Bros, bring evidence to this forum that between 56CE to 96CE, Jehovah's servants paid heed to your manipulation of Romans 14:5-6.

Las, las 1 Corinthians 11:1 is in your Bible.
Mr LIENUS says Paul was contradicting himself.

Shame on you, Mr LIENUS

Janosky:


The Bros says the sons of Job is his role model, NOT Jesus Christ.
Bros, Na Jesus Christ first you know Job 1:4 ,yet he no do birthday celebrations.
That's very instructive


"When Job’s sons “held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day” it should not be supposed that they were celebrating their birthdays. (Job 1:4) “Day” in this verse translates the Hebrew word yohm and refers to a period of time from sunrise to sunset. On the other hand, “birthday” is a compound of the two Hebrew words yohm (day) and hul·leʹdheth. The distinction between “day” and one’s birthday may be noted in Genesis 40:20, where both expressions appear: “Now on the third day [yohm] it turned out to be Pharaoh’s birthday [literally, “the day (yohm) of the birth (hul·leʹdheth) of Pharaoh”].” So it is certain that Job 1:4 does not refer to a birthday, as is unquestionably the case at Genesis 40:20.


The difference between Genesis 40:20 & Job 1:4 is very luminous.
Achorladey means that the Church Fathers wey live before him no know say Job 1:4 exist before they wrote their findings down for posterity.
Bros, go & verify that reference works (in the Screenshot) and free yourself from Mumu GIBBERISH

The Bros says the sons of Job is his role model, NOT Jesus Christ. Bros, Na Jesus Christ first you know Job 1:4 ,yet he no do birthday celebrations.

Later he will comeback and say he is not muddling things together. Here is the question asked categorically by you

Bros, bring just one evidence that a servant of Jehovah celebrate annual birthdays , that's all

You see how you muddle things up to suit your agenda. Job Son's were provided you decided to run to Jesus for cover. You have forgotten how high your organization esteem Job as man of integrity that vindicated Jehovah against Satan. Except Job sons are false worshippers or pagans.


To your reference material, this is what I need

it should not be supposed that they were celebrating their birthdays.

Emphasis on "It should not be supposed"

The key words under consideration here is his day captured in Job 1:4 your reference split this and go into explanation of day and birth as a compound word going to Genesis to prove their point. Whereas what they were looking for in Genesis is in the same Job 3:1 shows his day refer to birthday even the NWT shows that it was referring to day of his birth.

Your reference added

So it is certain that Job 1:4 does not refer to a birthday, as is unquestionably the case at Genesis 40:20.

How can the above be indeed CERTAIN AND UNQUESTIONABLY the case when the same his day used in Job 3:1 refers to birthday?

When you resolve the above question you will see how you should understand the below highlighted previously

it should not be supposed that they were celebrating their birthdays

The writer of the reference material based his PROHIBITION on not celebrating birthdays on ASSUMPTIONS and SUPPOSITIONS which he/she was unable to defend without having loose ends. Hope you the educated literate understand that.

As for the image all I see his wisdom of the world that is foolishness to God or they are wisdom of ATHEIST and BABYLON THE GREAT which your religious leaders had sift and call it spiritual food which you call load of GIBBERISH.

Janosky:

See as Mr LIENUS dey twist the holy Scriptures, dey DECEIVE himself !
Paul wrote Romans in 56 C.E, & John the apostle wrote Revelation in 96CE.
Bros, bring evidence to this forum that between 56CE to 96CE, Jehovah's servants paid heed to your manipulation of Romans 14:5-6.

Las, las 1 Corinthians 11:1 is in your Bible.
Mr LIENUS says Paul was contradicting himself.

Shame on you, Mr LIENUS

If only you can hear how deluded you sound, it would've been better but unfortunately you can't get help out of your confusion.

Now, JaNoSense the grand delusional and the son of his father the devil has ran to different in CE but was jumping up that earlier that "ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED BY GOD FOR TEACH"

Romans 14:5-6 has exposed you and your demonic organization, that people can observe ANY DAY they want.

Here it is again

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. (Romans 14:5-6)

You can keep fighting against scripture but you will never win as your father the Devil has been failing from beginning.

JaNoSense may sense collapse on you.

MaxInDHouse:
You just keep going back and forth my guy, as i've told you we've got a heritage and that is what you'll see in the history of our people we are different from all other people, we are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Act 15:14
So don't think our ways will ever rhyme with yours! John 15:19

But what was actually in your history is that

Russell celebrated birthday
Rutherford celebrated birthday
Knorr celebrated birthday.

So how are you different?

Oh sorry I forgot you don't even know the history of your lying organization as you don't even know Russell said he was inspired by the Spirit being.

Emusan:


I understand your frustration and lack of scriptural understanding.

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil

Here is what Paul says aslo:

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. (Romans 14:5-6)

Emusan, Going by the red ... Would you approve a person who Celebrates Ileya Festival with Muslims, Or Ifa festival with Pagans , since they are convinced in their own mind ?

Emusan:


The way you goofed when you brought in the issue of NO SERVANTS OF JEHOVAH celebrated birthday, you're goofing again.


I didn't see in any scripture you cites where BIRTHDAY was OUTRIGHTLY CONDEMNED.


Bible didn't TEACH that birthday celebration is a PAGAN PRACTICE, you can provide the scripture.

lying liar JWs like your father the devil

" You shall not do according to the custom of the land of Egypt, in which you dwelt: neither shall you act according to the manner of the country of Chanaan, into which I will bring you, nor shall you walk in their ordinances. " Leviticus 18:3

Birthdays originated from Egypt , Yes or no ?

As at when this Law was given, the Isrealites has witnessesld countless birthdays among the Egyptians, Why didn't they continue the practice ?

Instead of answering you with sincerity the next thing you will get from him is insults, abuses and curses. After observing how he love provoking brothers into exchanging verbal abuses, insults and curses to drag them down to his level i began avoiding exchange of words with him.
He is empty, all he just want is to make people see you is not as CHRISTIAN as people view us!

Barristter07:


" You shall not do according to the custom of the land of Egypt, in which you dwelt: neither shall you act according to the manner of the country of Chanaan, into which I will bring you, nor shall you walk in their ordinances. " Leviticus 18:3

Birthdays originated from Egypt , Yes or no ?

As at when this Law was given, the Isrealites has witnessesld countless birthdays among the Egyptians, Why didn't they continue the practice ?

Barristter07:
Emusan, Going by the red ... Would you approve a person who Celebrates Ileya Festival with Muslims, Or Ifa festival with Pagans , since they are convinced in their own mind ?

The person celebrating ANOTHER person's festival.

It's obvious you don't understand that verse!

Barristter07:


" You shall not do according to the custom of the land of Egypt, in which you dwelt: neither shall you act according to the manner of the country of Chanaan, into which I will bring you, nor shall you walk in their ordinances. " Leviticus 18:3

Birthdays originated from Egypt , Yes or no ?

As at when this Law was given, the Isrealites has witnessesld countless birthdays among the Egyptians, Why didn't they continue the practice ?

Wedding ring originated from Egypt, Yes or No?

MaxInDHouse:
Instead of answering you with sincerity the next thing you will get from him is insults, abuses and curses. After observing how he love provoking brothers into exchanging verbal abuses, insults and curses to drag them down to his level i began avoiding exchange of words with him.
He is empty, all he just want is to make people see you is not as CHRISTIAN as people view us!

He is empty, all he just want is to make people see you is not as CHRISTIAN as people view us!

But others that are not members of your organization should be seen as SATANIST, RELIGIONISTS, FALSE CHRISTIANS never as "TRUE CHRISTIANS" like you love to view yourself and your kind.

verbal abuses, insults and curses to drag them down to his level

Even "atheist, satanist, false christians" e.t.c like you love to call those who don't dance to your tune on this platform know you are leading light when it comes to the above.

Emusan:


The person celebrating ANOTHER person's festival.

It's obvious you don't understand that verse!

I think you forgot that those who attended a birthday party are celebrating another person's Festival too. , So the point here is not another person's festival. It's the Convinction in the persons mind about that day , that its observed for God.

Here we go:
The person esteem that Day as sacred for him or her and his fully convinced in his mind that he observed the Ileya Day or Ifa Day for God , Do you accept the verse justified this assertion , emphasis on " let each be fully convinced in his own mind " ?

Emusan:


Wedding ring originated from Egypt, Yes or No?

" The Western traditions of wedding rings can be traced to ancient Rome and Greece, and were first associated with the marital dowry and later with a promise of fidelity. " Wikipedia .

Marital dowry is biblical. It wasn't associated with False worship.

So Why don't the Isrealites continue the practice of Birthdays they witnessed in Egypt according to Lev 18:3 ?

Barristter07:

I think you forgot that those who attended a birthday party are celebrating another person's Festival too. , So the point here is not another person's festival. It's the Convinction in the persons mind about that day , that its observed for God.

You still don't that verse!

Ileya or ifa festival is a day DEDICATED to a god.

Birthday is day DECIDED by the celebrant to organize a FEAST for people.

So if I chose a DAY to do ANYTHING which has NOTHING IN CONNECTION with a STRANGE GOD and I'm convinced about it, that's what the scripture is saying.

Here we go:
The person esteem that Day as sacred for him or her and his fully convinced in his mind that he observed the Ileya Day or Ifa Day for God , Do you accept the verse justified this assertion , emphasis on " let each be fully convinced in his own mind " ?

No the person didn't, the people behind the festival did.

because you're not the coordinator of such.

Understand that verse well