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Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 1:11pm On May 11, 2021 |
ariesbull:Pls, don't fall for the trappings of the terrorist OP. His mission has been quashed if you followed the thread. Let it rest. 2 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 1:14pm On May 11, 2021 |
GBOKASINCHA:Abeg carry your rubbish and leave this thread. Don't come here to toxify the discussion with your rabid ethnocentric jingoism |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 1:15pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fejoku: Why do you easterners see others as fulani? Una hatred go consume una. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 1:17pm On May 11, 2021 |
Ishilove: You see my problem with igbos,na them dey force false identity for our tribes Ika and ukwuani. And yes,ishilove why some of una dey forbid snail and tortise? |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 1:24pm On May 11, 2021 |
And in ANIOMA ndokwa people have the best musicians. My favorite includes advicer ishioma ossai,captain dennis abamba,Late agu lato,my best guiterist(sir kendo), I also like the young prince music,the young prince was a guiterist and keyboardist under Osayomore joseph and advicer Nowamagbe of benin for many years. Before he decided to go back home to start his own ukwuani band,the young prince speak benin and ukwuani fluently. Watch the music "boboti" by osayomore joseph and you will see"De young prince" as his lead guitarist then. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 1:24pm On May 11, 2021 |
Sufferingboy:Na your hatred go kill you. You woke up early morning like devil to come sow confusion between two people who have so acculturated and yet have no history of infighting or domination. You are neither Orogun or Ndokwa yet you are advising that one shouldn't speak the others language yet you claim you want to learn the same language. If no be witchcraft na im be this, I wonder wetin we go call am. 6 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 1:26pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fejoku:You dey mumu,I nor sow hatred I only made an observation so as to know the reason orogun urhobos dey speak ukwuani. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 1:35pm On May 11, 2021 |
Sufferingboy:No be you type this nonsense? You be Urhobo? Wetin concern you with how them take dey relate before them even born your great grand father? You think say people wey dey read nor fit decode things from subtle messages? Gerrara here men! 5 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 1:41pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fooolishbuharri: You made some nice submissions, but allow me correct this. Urhobo women aren't regarded as property to any man, if a woman dies in marriage, even if all rites were performed (Traditional marriage), she will be buried in her father's compound unless her family agreed with the man to let them have her. This is custom and this is tradition! 3 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by PoloG: 1:43pm On May 11, 2021 |
IDENNAA:lol.. they are only United on nairaland.. in real life, na lie 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 1:45pm On May 11, 2021 |
Sufferingboy:My understanding is anything forbidden has been used as part of rituals/covenants with idols in the past so it becomes a taboo to eat it. Snails are forbidden in my part, but I don't know about tortoise |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fejoku: 1:52pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern:This practice was the norm in most of the lower southern area in the past. I was told so by granny and I read it too. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Nobody: 2:14pm On May 11, 2021 |
Orogun and Abby share same boundary, am orogun, my wife is from Abby. She speaks uroboh, and I speak ukwuani. But we identify with our place any time any day 2 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by coldFLARES1(m): 2:52pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fooolishbuharri:Think I would agree with you the preference for Ukwani by folks born and bred in Orogun. My friend is a typical example. With his siblings, they relate in Ukwani, with friends and others, strictly English language! I doubt he speaks Urhobo....never caught him speak it and haven't really asked. ....and why i'm not bothered? I can't quite express myself fluently in the Urhobo language. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 3:10pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern: I didn't really mean property like property which was why I put it in quotes because the world has changed. But I guess I generalized which I should not have. Anyways I'm glad you gave the submission. It means young people are not drifting too far away as I feared from our customs. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 3:19pm On May 11, 2021 |
coldFLARES1: Yeah it happens. Probably their dad is Ukwuani? But as I said, both cultures are very inter mixed due to our relationship with Amai. Then for the bolded, try dey speak am because practice they say makes perfect. Make our own language identity no go dey extinct one day because I find it a worrisome trend, folks born and raised in even Urhobo land no sabi speak am. Some sef dey shame to speak am but dem sabi rap yoruba or others. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by NengiWIDEtoto: 3:20pm On May 11, 2021 |
Sufferingboy:fulani low I.q terrorist spotted. Oga dey find tribes to put disunity amongst make him fit come attack them for night unchallenged. 2 Likes |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Omoluabi16(m): 6:54pm On May 11, 2021 |
Ishilove:hallo Are the orogun people from mosogar? 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 6:57pm On May 11, 2021 |
Omoluabi16:Where is that? Never hoid of the woid |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Omoluabi16(m): 7:07pm On May 11, 2021 |
Ishilove:It is a small kingdom in delta state. I think they are Urhobo's. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 7:10pm On May 11, 2021 |
Ishilove: Wow,I understand now. Like some ika people from Owa,ote-Ogbu,ute-Ogbeje don't eat monkey because of the assistance monkey rendered to "Ijue" who was been chased by the benins. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 7:13pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fejoku: Igbo man what is your problem? I talk to you? |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Bialegend(m): 7:27pm On May 11, 2021 |
Urhobo, Isoko, Ika and Ndokwa are Iall Igbos by extension, so what's the fuse? |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Ishilove: 7:28pm On May 11, 2021 |
Omoluabi16:Fooolishbuharri, Fejoku, Efewestern, can you assist? 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 9:31pm On May 11, 2021 |
Omoluabi16: Ishilove: Mosogar is an Urhobo Clan, but Orogun never migrated from there, Orogun was founded by the daughter of Efe whose brothers also founded (Owolukpo) Abbi, Amai, and Umukwata. According to Oral history, Efe was a great warrior who fought several wars/battles. Bialegend: What do you mean by Urhobo and Isoko are Igbos by Extension? Don't miseducate the general public please, if you have no knowledge about the subject matter, sit aside and learn instead of displaying this level of ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 9:31pm On May 11, 2021 |
Ishilove: No. Orogun is not from Mosogar but both are native Urhobo speaking communities. Mosogar is in the Oghara kingdom, Ethiope west LGA. Orogun is in Ughelli North LGA. CC: Omoluabi16 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 9:41pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fejoku: Yes very common, we all share same culture and belief system, language is our only barrier. For example, in Ukwuani, if a married woman cheats on her husband, the gods of the land will visit her family and if she doesn't confesses, her husband or children may die, same with the Urhobos and Isokos. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 9:46pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern: Orogun was a sister to Ogor, Ughelli and Agbarha. Their father as you rightly said was Efe who was a warrior. This discussion just triggered so much nostalgia in me you know Bro? Thanks for your contributions |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 9:56pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern: This is very true! But if the man knows about it and stops to eat her food and stops to sleep with her, it leaves the man alone I think. Then if the woman confesses to the husband, he must call the family together before the curse can go away. Happens till date. Then I don't know if this also happens in Ukwuani sha but an age long tradition in Orogun is that an Orogun man can never kill another Orogun man or cause him harm, leading to his death. If you do, it's death for the perpetrator and it happens within few weeks. This, I've seen happen! The oracle of Orogun called Erose is very harsh concerning that because that was what broke Efe their father's home in the first place, when Ogor the first son was moving mad and sought to kill his siblings. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Efewestern: 10:11pm On May 11, 2021 |
Fooolishbuharri: Eriwin is a very powerful force, if the man knows, he is advised to get the woman packing until some cleansings are done, failure to do so might have great consequences on the kids. Then I don't know if this also happens in Ukwuani sha but an age long tradition in Orogun is that an Orogun man can never kill another Orogun man or cause him harm, leading to his death. If you do, it's death for the perpetrator and it happens within few weeks. This, I've seen happen! Wow, this is insightful, never knew about this part of the Orogun people. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Fooolishbuharri: 10:41pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern: Yes you're right. Never knew the name is Eriwin. Sometimes it even goes beyond the expected to enforce certain things. I'll give you a story which happened to our neighbor. Their daughter a teenager at the time started seeing men and began sleeping around. This girl had the guts to sleep with her boyfriends in her parent's matrimonial bed! Then it struck! The mum was struck with madness. Having no history of madness in the family, they went to inquire what caused it and it was revealed what was going on. Now see the thing. It struck the mother with madness because it saw her as the one doing the act simply because she should have taught her daughter that the bed is sacred. Long story cut short, the appeasement was done, and the girl was thrown out of the home. The father disowned her and they had to leave the environment because it was a very big scandal. So the workings of that thing can be mysterious and unpredictable. Efewestern: Yes and it's very serious. A young man was poisoned by his roommate, an Orogun person too. Their houses were just minutes apart back home, over some misunderstanding at school. The boy's family treated this young man going by the diagnosis the hospital gave being typhoid when they brought him home sick from school. The boy slipped into a coma and died. They didn’t know the cause. The boy was buried immediately and the family left to mourn their dead. But about a week and half after, this boy who poisoned the other ran out of their home screaming that he'd talk. When asked what happened, he said Erose slapped him. Then he spilled everything that happened and how he poisoned this young man- his roommate. After his confession, he died right there at the spot and that was how everyone knew what happened. I'd have called it a story, if I wasn't a witness. Orogun people know this which is why Onukpo, Umusu and the other quarters have never ever had a fight or clash since time immemorial because they are siblings and siblings don't kill themselves. |
Re: Urhobos:orogun Urhobos Turning To Ndokwa. by Sufferingboy(f): 10:47pm On May 11, 2021 |
Efewestern: Leave that misguilded and greedy igbo man. |
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