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Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:05pm On May 27, 2021
See mumu o! cheesy
Mosaic law says whoever works in Saturdays should be stoned to death, whoever sleeps with another man's wife or another woman's husband must be killed, whoever insults his/her parents must be killed. All these are not operational in any country today and you're here arguing blindly that the Mosaic law is still working shey? cheesy
Even in Israel Adulterers, Witches, Sabbath defaulters and so on are no more hunted for law breaking so stop this stupidity.
Every nation have their rules that's based on human thinking not Mosaic laws, otherwise gays won't have right today! cheesy

blueAgent:

Another classic stupid comment.
Is their any part of the World were murder,Stealing,Adultery ,false allegations e.t.c is not a crime?
What is christain lifestyles?
Are you telling me that you don't know that a christ teachings were based on the Law?
Than you are too dumb to claim a teacher of the word.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On May 27, 2021
ÒDÈ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO!
David wasn't obeying Christ when he speared Saul's life Sir, he was scared to touch God's anointed King! 1Samuel 24:6
David killed all his enemies! Even the man that insulted him David asked his son Solomon to make sure the man doesn't go to the grave with his grey hair! 1King 2:8-9
Did David forgive his own enemies as Jesus instructed us? Matthew 18:21-22 cheesy

blueAgent:

Clown
David went as far as spearing the life of his enemy Saul.
And many more examples.
Get sense.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:46am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
ÒDÈ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO!
David wasn't obeying Christ when he speared Saul's life Sir, he was scared to touch God's anointed King! 1Samuel 24:6
David killed all his enemies! Even the man that insulted him David asked his son Solomon to make sure the man doesn't go to the grave with his grey hair! 1King 2:8-9
Did David forgive his own enemies as Jesus instructed us? Matthew 18:21-22


You are not Idiot.

If he spared Saul's life becos of his fear and honour of God, is that not Christ teaching?
That we should love God with our whole heart?



Was it not Christ that asked his disciples to get Sword?

. Luke 22:35-37 “Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out to preach the Good News and you did not have money, a traveler’s bag, or an extra pair of sandals, did you need anything?” “No,” they replied. “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one! For the time has come for this prophecy about me to be fulfilled: ‘He was counted among the rebels. Yes, everything written about me by the prophets will come true.”

5. Luke 22:38-39 “Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” he said. Then, accompanied by the disciples, Jesus left the upstairs room and went as usual to the Mount of Olives.”
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:54am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
ÒDÈ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO!
David wasn't obeying Christ when he speared Saul's life Sir, he was scared to touch God's anointed King! 1Samuel 24:6
David killed all his enemies! Even the man that insulted him David asked his son Solomon to make sure the man doesn't go to the grave with his grey hair! 1King 2:8-9
Did David forgive his own enemies as Jesus instructed us? Matthew 18:21-22 cheesy


You are a big fool.

Always twisting God's word.

Nehemiah 4:17-18 ESV / 93 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Who were building on the wall. Those who carried burdens were loaded in such a way that each labored on the work with one hand and held his weapon with the other. And each of the builders had his sword strapped at his side while he built. The man who sounded the trumpet was beside me.


You must protect yourself and your family

16. Psalm 82:4 “Rescue weak and needy people. Help them escape the power of wicked people.”


Here is the reason why Jesus told Peter to keep his sword away.

John 18:11 ESV / 6 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into its sheath; shall I not drink the cup that the Father has given me.

Not becos it was evil for one to use sword to protect themselves.


JW are Satan agents teaching falsehood
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:56am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
ÒDÈ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO!
David wasn't obeying Christ when he speared Saul's life Sir, he was scared to touch God's anointed King! 1Samuel 24:6
David killed all his enemies! Even the man that insulted him David asked his son Solomon to make sure the man doesn't go to the grave with his grey hair! 1King 2:8-9
Did David forgive his own enemies as Jesus instructed us? Matthew 18:21-22 cheesy


Oko-ko.


This one go hang you for throat.

Luke 22:38-39 “Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” he said. Then, accompanied by the disciples, Jesus left the upstairs room and went as usual to the Mount of Olives.”

So Jesus acknowledged that his disciples had 2 physical sword.

Twist this Bible verse as usual, Fool.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:57am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
See mumu o! cheesy
Mosaic law says whoever works in Saturdays should be stoned to death, whoever sleeps with another man's wife or another woman's husband must be killed, whoever insults his/her parents must be killed. All these are not operational in any country today and you're here arguing blindly that the Mosaic law is still working shey? cheesy
Even in Israel Adulterers, Witches, Sabbath defaulters and so on are no more hunted for law breaking so stop this stupidity.
Every nation have their rules that's based on human thinking not Mosaic laws, otherwise gays won't have right today! cheesy




What is the wages of Sin?

This shows you do not have indept knowledge of God's word.
No wonder you reason like a clown.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:00am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
See mumu o! cheesy
Mosaic law says whoever works in Saturdays should be stoned to death, whoever sleeps with another man's wife or another woman's husband must be killed, whoever insults his/her parents must be killed. All these are not operational in any country today and you're here arguing blindly that the Mosaic law is still working shey? cheesy
Even in Israel Adulterers, Witches, Sabbath defaulters and so on are no more hunted for law breaking so stop this stupidity.
Every nation have their rules that's based on human thinking not Mosaic laws, otherwise gays won't have right today! cheesy



Clown is that the only law you saw in your Mosiac law?

Did the 10commandments written by God contain penalty for breaking any of the 10?

When I tell you that you do not have sense you think am cursing you, but it is obvious.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:01am On May 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
See mumu o! cheesy
Mosaic law says whoever works in Saturdays should be stoned to death, whoever sleeps with another man's wife or another woman's husband must be killed, whoever insults his/her parents must be killed. All these are not operational in any country today and you're here arguing blindly that the Mosaic law is still working shey? cheesy
Even in Israel Adulterers, Witches, Sabbath defaulters and so on are no more hunted for law breaking so stop this stupidity.
Every nation have their rules that's based on human thinking not Mosaic laws, otherwise gays won't have right today! cheesy





This is what Apostles James instructed us to keep, the 10commandments not the mosiac laws.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

He did not say we should keep or living by principles like false Satan agents like you will claim.

Rather he gave or listed clearly commandments from the 10commandments.

Jesus never said live by principles, rather he clearly stated if you love me keep my commandments.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:05am On May 28, 2021
livingchrist:


That is why works cannot save anyone, it is only after salvation that ones work will be reward.

Unsaved people doing good works is a waste.

Bro, Am still waiting for your response.

Is funny how you disappeared from the thread, its obvious nemesis was catching up with you.

That's what happens when you twist God's word you end up boxing yourself into a corner you cannot come out from.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39am On May 28, 2021
Hooooooooooooo! cheesy

You're a failure!

David killed his enemies and he even ordered his son to finish his enemies but Jesus asked us to FORGIVE and PRAY FOR THEM!
So David is NOT a Christian. Period! smiley


blueAgent:

You are not Idiot.
If he spared Saul's life becos of his fear and honour of God, is that not Christ teaching?
That we should love God with our whole heart? Was it not Christ that asked his disciples to get Sword?. Luke 22:35-37 “Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out to preach the Good News and you did not have money, a traveler’s bag, or an extra pair of sandals, did you need anything?” “No,” they replied. “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one! For the time has come for this prophecy about me to be fulfilled: ‘He was counted among the rebels. Yes, everything written about me by the prophets will come true.”
5. Luke 22:38-39 “Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” he said. Then, accompanied by the disciples, Jesus left the upstairs room and went as usual to the Mount of Olives.”
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:49am On May 28, 2021
That's what you don't know and instead of you to humbly learn you're putting up a blind argument.
Jesus' commandments is not the same as the commandments given to the nation of Israel in the wilderness!
One says "KILL defaulters" {Deuteronomy 13:6-11} the other says "forgive and help defaulters to regain strength" Matthew 18:22

So Jesus' commandments came as a result of the New Covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-34 wink

blueAgent:

This is what Apostles James instructed us to keep, the 10commandments not the mosiac laws. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. He did not say we should keep or living by principles like false Satan agents like you will claim. Rather he gave or listed clearly commandments from the 10commandments.
Jesus never said live by principles, rather he clearly stated if you love me keep my commandments.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:41pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
That's what you don't know and instead of you to humbly learn you're putting up a blind argument.
Jesus' commandments is not the same as the commandments given to the nation of Israel in the wilderness!
One says "KILL defaulters" {Deuteronomy 13:6-11} the other says "forgive and help defaulters to regain strength" Matthew 18:22

So Jesus' commandments came as a result of the New Covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-34 wink


Crap as usual.

You are making Jesus a liar, becos Jesus himself said his new commandments is the same as the old.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Jesus said the law cannot fail, rather Heaven and Earth will pass away.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:46pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
That's what you don't know and instead of you to humbly learn you're putting up a blind argument.
Jesus' commandments is not the same as the commandments given to the nation of Israel in the wilderness!
One says "KILL defaulters" {Deuteronomy 13:6-11} the other says "forgive and help defaulters to regain strength" Matthew 18:22

So Jesus' commandments came as a result of the New Covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-34 wink


You cannot refute my facts ,rather you go about twisting Bible verses.

Even in the old testament defaulters were also pardoned by them offering scarifical offerings for their sins.

In the new testament we do not need to offer such, becos the blood of Jesus has be sheded to cover all our sins.
But just as in the old covenant the law still remained so also it still remains in the new testament.

Mind you Jesus also pardoned the auldtress woman.

So mercy and forgiveness did not start in the new testament as you claim.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:50pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
That's what you don't know and instead of you to humbly learn you're putting up a blind argument.
Jesus' commandments is not the same as the commandments given to the nation of Israel in the wilderness!
One says "KILL defaulters" {Deuteronomy 13:6-11} the other says "forgive and help defaulters to regain strength" Matthew 18:22

So Jesus' commandments came as a result of the New Covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-34 wink


There are abundant evidence to show that Jesus commandments were the same as the law written by God and given to the entire humanity through Israel on mount Sinai.

Even the new Convenant still contains Laws( 10commandments)

You can run away from it.

The wages of sin is death?

God used the Mosiac laws not the 10commandments to show the Israelites and humanity what the penalty of sin is, which is death.

When Christ will come ,all those who do not repent and obey the commandments of God will still receive that punishment of death.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:00pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Hooooooooooooo! cheesy

You're a failure!

David killed his enemies and he even ordered his son to finish his enemies but Jesus asked us to FORGIVE and PRAY FOR THEM!
So David is NOT a Christian. Period! smiley


Ha ha Ha.

YOU are going crazy becos i showed you the truth that Jesus acknowledged that his disciples had TWO swords with them and he was pleased it.

Clown.

David is not a christain I guess he was a pagan who gave birth to a chritain saviour?
I guess Paul was not also a christain? For cursing Bar-Jesus with blindness.

Acts 13:7 Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God. 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 13:9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 13:11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.




Most of the verses Jesus wrote on how we should deal with our enemies cannot be taken literally.
Jesus was only using such example to illustrate how we should seek peace with all people, and not that we should actually offer our other check when slapped by our enemy or allow ourself to be killed by our enemy.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:04pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Hooooooooooooo! cheesy

You're a failure!

David killed his enemies and he even ordered his son to finish his enemies but Jesus asked us to FORGIVE and PRAY FOR THEM!
So David is NOT a Christian. Period! smiley



Do you know that God was well pleased with all that David did? Including killing his enemies.

Secondly you have little knowledge of what been a Christian is all about.

David is a Christian , Even Israelites in the wilderness were also called the Church in the wilderness, hence they are also Christians becos they look up to Christ as their saviour and they obey the teachings and commandments of God.

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:05pm On May 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Hooooooooooooo! cheesy

You're a failure!

David killed his enemies and he even ordered his son to finish his enemies but Jesus asked us to FORGIVE and PRAY FOR THEM!
So David is NOT a Christian. Period! smiley



Don't worry when Boko -Haram attack you don't run or fight back just pray for them and get killed.

Clown.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:35pm On May 29, 2021
John 11:25~Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

blueAgent:

Don't worry when Boko -Haram attack you don't run or fight back just pray for them and get killed. Clown.

During the resurrection he will remember us for our obedience to remain harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 wink
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:12am On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
John 11:25~Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:



During the resurrection he will remember us for our obedience to remain harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 wink

As Usual you dodged answering my questions.
What has resurrection has to do with argument?
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by Myer(m): 9:24am On May 30, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, I know! Nigerians are not very very observant and do not pay attention to details.

Little Details make a mighty story!

And the Bible, like Law is Big on the Details.

As we say in Law, The Law is Precise! Same as the Bible too.

Read Romans 7 and 8.
You have to stop being a slave to the Law.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by orunto27: 9:25am On May 30, 2021
THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE NOW THE WAYS TO LOVE.

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Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by orunto27: 9:28am On May 30, 2021
THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE NOW THE WAYS TO LOVE. AND THE WAYS TO FULFILL JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS.

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Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:56am On May 30, 2021
Myer:


Read Romans 7 and 8.
You have to stop being a slave to the Law.

grin The writer of Romans 7 and 8 is A LAWYER and All Lawyers know that, All he wrote was in Legal or Law English not Ordinary common people English and the Law Interpretation is that "Everything in this world, Starts with Law, Ends with Law and is Measured by Law. And that there is Absolutely Nothing that is not in the Hand of Law!"

Absolutely Nothing as you yourself have not been able to find any thing which is not in the Hand of Law!

No one goes to the mechanic for stomach ulcer nor a shoemaker to Interprete Laws, Statutes, Commands or Instruction! Except a Fool of course.

You have to stop listening to Mechanics, Shoemakers, Drivers etc for Interpretation of Law and Instruction.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 9:59am On May 30, 2021
Myer:


Read Romans 7 and 8.
You have to stop being a slave to the Law.


Really?

When you say law, you have to be precise about the law you are speaking of.

The Ten commandments cannot be a law that enslaved rather it is called law of liberty and the Royal law.
James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


Can a law which is just ,good,holy enslave one?

Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by Myer(m): 10:55am On May 30, 2021
blueAgent:


Really?

When you say law, you have to be precise about the law you are speaking of.

The Ten commandments cannot be a law that enslaved rather it is called law of liberty and the Royal law.
James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


Can a law which is just ,good,holy enslave one?

Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Galatians 3 will let you know that by Law he was not differentiating between the Moral laws, ceremonial laws or Levitican laws. He was referring to all the Laws.
Not that the are not holy,just and good but that any one who lives by them are cursed.

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Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:05am On May 30, 2021
The laws whether 10 or 600+ commandments that you're worried over is a shadow of God's GRACE to come through FAITH in Christ Jesus!

blueAgent:

As Usual you dodged answering my questions.
What has resurrection has to do with argument?

GRACE or UNDESERVED KINDNESS first comes to play in the NT but instead of Churchgoers to ask why it wasn't emphasized in the OT the same way they're coming up with series of definitions that's putting them into more confusion.
According to the Bible all of us are Adam's descendants (sons and daughters of the rebel who deliberately turned against his God and father) so we should just spend few years to taste what God prepared for our father (Adam) and after expiration we return to non-existence, that's what has been happening to all Adam's descendants till now. Ecclesiastes 9:5-10
Provision of a ransom sacrifice to change the condition is what is called UNDESERVED KINDNESS (GRACE) because God has no business with sinners or descendants of a rebel yet He stretched out His hands out of LOVE since we weren't the ones who rebelled against Him! Romans 5:8
What Jesus was telling those Pharisees back then is that it's not keeping the laws that will make them qualify for everlasting life rather it's the UNDESERVED KINDNESS of God (GRACE) so instead of capitalizing or justifying themselves under the laws they should be prepared to take further steps that will show they're truly repentant and humble before God! Zephaniah 2:2-3
The laws is a prerequisite for membership of the new earth family under CHRIST rule {Jeremiah 31:31-34} so whoever refrain from accepting the counsels Jesus gives will not be pardoned even if he keeps all the laws given to Moses {Luke 18:18-23} the laws is not what will be operational in Paradise but willingness to submit to the most wonderful counselor of all times (Jesus Christ) {Isaiah 9:6-7} it's only him that can approve you to live in his Kingdom (not your obedience to someone laws) otherwise the thief wouldn't have any chance if the laws is ultimate {Luke 23:41-43} don't forget that the Father has handed over everything to him both in heaven and on earth! Matthew 28:18 compare to 1Corinthians 15:25-28
So all those capitalizing on their ability to keep the laws will be welcomed into the new family of faith under Christ but they shouldn't think they're better of or deserve special privileges than Christians who never had anything to do with those laws but stick to Christ's Counsels! Matthew 20:1-16

May you have PEACE!
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 1:55pm On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The laws whether 10 or 600+ commandments that you're worried over is a shadow of God's GRACE to come through FAITH in Christ Jesus!



GRACE or UNDESERVED KINDNESS first comes to play in the NT but instead of Churchgoers to ask why it wasn't emphasized in the OT the same way they're coming up with series of definitions that's putting them into more confusion.
According to the Bible all of us are Adam's descendants (sons and daughters of the rebel who deliberately turned against his God and father) so we should just spend few years to taste what God prepared for our father (Adam) and after expiration we return to non-existence, that's what has been happening to all Adam's descendants till now. Ecclesiastes 9:5-10
Provision of a ransom sacrifice to change the condition is what is called UNDESERVED KINDNESS (GRACE) because God has no business with sinners or descendants of a rebel yet He stretched out His hands out of LOVE since we weren't the ones who rebelled against Him! Romans 5:8
What Jesus was telling those Pharisees back then is that it's not keeping the laws that will make them qualify for everlasting life rather it's the UNDESERVED KINDNESS of God (GRACE) so instead of capitalizing or justifying themselves under the laws they should be prepared to take further steps that will show they're truly repentant and humble before God! Zephaniah 2:2-3
The laws is a prerequisite for membership of the new earth family under CHRIST rule {Jeremiah 31:31-34} so whoever refrain from accepting the counsels Jesus gives will not be pardoned even if he keeps all the laws given to Moses {Luke 18:18-23} the laws is not what will be operational in Paradise but willingness to submit to the most wonderful counselor of all times (Jesus Christ) {Isaiah 9:6-7} it's only him that can approve you to live in his Kingdom (not your obedience to someone laws) otherwise the thief wouldn't have any chance if the laws is ultimate {Luke 23:41-43} don't forget that the Father has handed over everything to him both in heaven and on earth! Matthew 28:18 compare to 1Corinthians 15:25-28
So all those capitalizing on their ability to keep the laws will be welcomed into the new family of faith under Christ but they shouldn't think they're better of or deserve special privileges than Christians who never had anything to do with those laws but stick to Christ's Counsels! Matthew 20:1-16

May you have PEACE!

Every minute you are changing your points.

For one to be acceptable to God one must accept Jesus and the sacrifice he did by faith and one must also keep the 10commandments.

The two, law and grace compliments each other they don't oppose each other.

We are expected to keep the law inorder to inherit eternal life, that's what God says not my word.


Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 2:03pm On May 30, 2021
Myer:


Galatians 3 will let you know that by Law he was not differentiating between the Moral laws, ceremonial laws or Levitican laws. He was referring to all the Laws.
Not that the are not holy,just and good but that any one who lives by them are cursed.



There is no evidence that Paul was referring to the whole law, you are the one imposing your thoughts that paul was referring to the whole law.

You read out of context, if you read chapter 2 of Galatians you will see where the issue originated from, it was in regards to circumcision, so its obvious Paul was referring to those ceremonial laws and not the 10commandments.

Paul cannot be referring to the whole law becos that will make him a mad man,becos that same Paul asked us to establish the Law.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

And obey the law.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 2:05pm On May 30, 2021
Myer:


Galatians 3 will let you know that by Law he was not differentiating between the Moral laws, ceremonial laws or Levitican laws. He was referring to all the Laws.
Not that the are not holy,just and good but that any one who lives by them are cursed.

More evidence that Circumcision was the law done away with and not the commandments of God.

1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by Myer(m): 2:18pm On May 30, 2021
blueAgent:




There is no evidence that Paul was referring to the whole law, you are the one imposing your thoughts that paul was referring to the whole law.

You read out of context, if you read chapter 2 of Galatians you will see where the issue originated from, it was in regards to circumcision, so its obvious Paul was referring to those ceremonial laws and not the 10commandments.

Paul cannot be referring to the whole law becos that will make him a mad man,becos that same Paul asked us to establish the Law.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

And obey the law.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Pleass read Acts 15 which is another account of Galatians 3.
What do you make of this?

The apostles were in disagreement over whether they should preach the laws or whether they should not preach the laws.
The arguments proceeded until James spoke.

James being inspired by the Holyspirit was led to share to the apostles not to impose the laws on the gentiles except to tell them to abstain from sacrifices to idols, sexual immorality and blood.

This forms my stand point that while the law is good, it is no longer a burden to a follower of Christ.
You're no longer a slave to sin once born of the Spirit and water.
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:26pm On May 30, 2021
blueAgent:


Every minute you are changing your points.

For one to be acceptable to God one must accept Jesus and the sacrifice he did by faith and one must also keep the 10commandments.

The two, law and grace compliments each other they don't oppose each other.

We are expected to keep the law inorder to inherit eternal life, that's what God says not my word.


Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

The thief beside Jesus never keep any of those commandments yet Jesus gave him a direct Visa to PARADISE! Luke 23:43
So salvation has nothing absolutely nothing to do with the laws but faith in Christ Jesus, otherwise that thief couldn't have gotten a pass to Paradise! smiley
Re: The Law Of God And Righteousness, Do We Still Need The 10 Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:46pm On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


The thief beside Jesus never keep any of those commandments yet Jesus gave him a direct Visa to PARADISE! Luke 23:43
So salvation has nothing absolutely nothing to do with the laws but faith in Christ Jesus, otherwise that thief couldn't have gotten a pass to Paradise! smiley

If that Thief had not died that day and went back after been freed to his life of crime and later died, would he be accepted into Heaven?

Why did Jesus forgive the adulterous woman and asked her to go and sin no more?

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