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Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by ademidedavid(f): 7:23am On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Can christians ever belong to one big family? |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On Jun 11, 2021 |
True Christians have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally and because God is the one that used his Holy Spirit to separate them from false religionists claiming Christians God called his own true worshipers by another name! Isaiah 65:15 I'll feel obligated to present them to you if you wish to know them! ademidedavid: 2 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Nobody: 7:49am On Jun 11, 2021 |
ademidedavid:You are welcome bro.. 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:53am On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You said what others were saying about the man, but nothing of what you thought of him by his fruits. So can you say what you think or know of him by his fruits as you already know my own thoughts? 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:40pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Christianity is about selflessly and voluntarily taking up the assignment a first century Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher gave his followers. Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8 The young man's name was JESUS when he started he was going from town to town, house to house and door to door preaching and teaching about God's coming Kingdom (government) that will destroy all human governments and stand forever! Daniel 2:44 compare to Matthew 6:10 He taught his followers to continue doing this job and expanding the network everywhere they go. Now is the sensitive part where all these religionsts failed! Jesus' disciples will be recognized by their preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood {Matthew 10:11-13} this was how the inhabitants of Antioch got to identify them as "Christians" people practicing the faith laid down by the Jewish man who claimed he was the Christ! Act 11:26 Because they're dedicated to this course they mustn't tag anyone as enemy in other to pass across the message they have {Matthew 5:43-48} they will become like one family not with people from their own tribe or race but anyone who accepts the teachings {Matthew 12:46-49} such a person automatically become a member of their spiritual family that they must love exactly the same way Jesus loves them! John 13:34-35 So with this at the back of their minds they don't see themselves as a part of any nation, tribe, race or ethnic group {John 17:14} rather as their form of worship is based on spirit and truth {John 4:24} they belong to one big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:20-23 That is why they must not carry weapons for any reason whatsoever thinking they want to kill enemies of any sort {Matthew 26:52} rather they must be prepared to vacate any locality where they're been oppressed {Matthew 10:23} so that they will shed no blood. So Jesus already prepared their minds that they must try as much as possible to always live simple lives this will help them not to feel attached to any place when they don't accumulate possessions that's difficult to carry {Luke 17:32} They must take people from everywhere as neighbours and love them as they love their own souls {Mark 12:29-31} but when it comes to their fellow believers they must be prepared to sacrifice their lives just as Jesus did for them! John 13:34-35 compare to Galatians 6:10 Satan is the overall ruler of the world and he is speedily promoting hatred in the minds of people globally using Politics and Racism, with this two missiles people are killing people everywhere today {Revelations 6:3-4} but true Christians who love all their neighbours aren't hypnotized by Satan's spell so they are hated by those under Satan's manipulations as they stick to the commands of their Lord and King Jesus Christ instead of supporting a tribe, race or political party against another! Matthew 10:22; Mark 13:13; John 15:21 So none of all these people claiming men of God has successfully produced this type of fruit as their followers only revere them but can kill one another in the face of Politics and Racism. The true Christians are the fruit of Jesus' hard works and people know them in any country by these qualities: LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL. There is no law any nation can put up against them! Galatians 5:22-23 So TB Joshua was a good and kind-hearted man that will never be forgotten by the people he helped within the space of time he lived but he is never a Christian simply because he was helping people. He never worked on what Jesus (the man called CHRIST) commissioned to establish a network of preachers and teachers extending the good news of God's Kingdom in their neighbourhood from house to house, door to door and town to town, which was planned to unite people of all nations under Christ! Micah 4:1-3 That's is what CHRISTIANITY entails. As for his kind gesture he is far better than all those pastors and daddy GOs but in reality all of them are not CHRISTIANS! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by ademidedavid(f): 1:12pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Thank you |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:19pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
So in a nutshell, are you saying he was a false or true prophet by his fruits or because he wasn't a member of JW? MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Did i mention any religious group throughout the post? I only analysed how we all can figure out the fruit expected of any ministry that truly belongs to Jesus who is called Christ. You will note that whenever you people come across kind, nice and generous individuals practicing other forms of worship, you will be confused as to why God will not accept them simply because they don't claim to be Christians. If i should ask you now "what will happen to your Muslim/Traditionalist uncle or aunt who did so much for you to see you through school" your usual quick response about Heaven or Hell will disappear! Well i have analysed all the points so that even when you still find any other person much nicer and generous than TB Joshua you now have what it takes to know if such a person is building on the foundation of Christ or just another good person whose righteousness is like filthy rags before God! Isaiah 64:6 Meanwhile God's word declared them workers of LAWLESSNESS or INIQUITY! Matthew 7:23 Are you ready to know the real iniquity they are committing or you're still contemplating on the source of my understanding? jesusjnr2020: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
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Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:26pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
So the long and short of your whole talk is that TB Joshua was a good man by his fruits, but a false prophet just because he didn't belong to your organization abi? MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Missyajoke(f): 4:20pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Max in the house am really disappointed in you, left to me you seem confused and you don't even know what you're saying. Let me ask you a Question are you really born again or you're camouflaging to be born again. 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:43pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
There you go again! He never produce the FRUIT! People in other religions are also doing the same thing so that's not the fruit Jesus expected from those practicing Christianity. And please leave any religious group out of this and face the facts. I have presented the points that you may prove me wrong. Are those points authentic or not? Did TB Joshua got it right or not? That's what any sincere person should focus on not person bringing it out! jesusjnr2020: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
I don't remember quoting you but if you're quoting me please can you face the debate and not the commentator? Jesus never faced personalities rather he taught us to treat cases accordingly. This is about a popular televangelist who died and many are coming out to say both good and bad things about him. But Max is not concerned about what anyone says rather i'm concerned about what his ministry has produced as fruit (members of his church known for everywhere they are) that's the point of this discussion. So if you're here to chat on that you're welcome but attacking the person bringing out the points is very very unchristian! Missyajoke: 3 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I really didnt want to respond, but hmmm. I got the "go ahead" to. Max, you are right. What you said here is the truth. Nigerian and West African Pastors do not know the difference btw their personal money and church (public) money. Even when running charity organizations. Efe Soje, the ex super eagles and one of his siblings are presently in Jail (maybe he is out now I cant say) for this reason. Sunday Adelaja does only his shakara in Nigeria. He dear not perform that rubbish in Ukraine. Dem no born am well. He pays tax there. Putin doesn't send anyone, you want to preach in Russia, be ready to pay your tax. Gbam! And you dear not make noise and disturb the town. All churches are soundproof. But here, they will put a loud sound system on top of the roof and disturb the peace of the city. Muslims are worse. Every 5am they start making noise oooo. Very irritating thing. I watch out very well where I want to live. First, I look for any mosque around. No matter how tiny it is. No way. They will put loud speaker outside and disturb my sleep every morning. And it's so frustrating. But saying Adeboye picks money from the purse of the church, is funny. Hahahha. I dont know oooo. And that of Oyedepo. Hmmm. You.know Oyedepo is a master when it comes to Leadership and getting projects done (he is an architect). You know Oyedepo is a big time money multiplier. His two universities are rated very high. At least, you can see the good he is doing. Though, I dont agree with all he does. Again, it seems everytime I talk you always come after Adeboye cos I said he is Daddy GO. Lol. Truly, if you know me...you will understand I dont give a damn about any man of God. But Adeboye moved me with his kind of faith and his action after his child died. See eh! It is hard to lose a son, not to talk of a promising son. Bro, it is hard for any 70+ man or woman to lose a child. Bros, leave Adeboye alone oooo. I am not even a member of his church. I do not go to his church. That he has access to church money and he uses it for himself, I dont know. And I doubt it. Why? Adeboye is not poor ooo. That man was almost a professor before he dropped his pen as a university lecturer. Adeboye has solved many mathematical expressions which he won awards for. He is a real mathematician. So, dont mess with him. He was not poor ooo. That Adeboye sent his children all abroad to study is not a surprise because he has told the story how he lost a scholarship to do his phd in the UK before he did it in Nigeria. So, the interest to study abroad is in him. I am.just pointing out sensitive and logical reasons to ponder on so you can rethink all these things you always say. TB Joshua is humble. Adeboye is extra humble. Adeboye's own is from another world. You know TB Joshua is not that educated, but what I saw in that man is determination. How he re packaged himself and started speaking clean English. Hmmmm! But in Adeboye's case, that man is a top mathematician. Adeboye is book. Adeboye is a special brain. Yet, he talks so gentle. TB Joshua too. Lol. Bro, I understand you. You are right about how most pastors handle money here. But I think you should be cautious of how you attack these people. This is very funny. And see, I pardon you cos I know you are a very young man. You did not get my message because you are young and I will not say much. Those who knew Joshua and watched his TV programs when he first started will just be laughing at you. However, those videos are not available again. Listen to his English then too. Lol. One thing is that Joshua is gifted and smart. Very brilliant. For FFK to call him his friend, bro...Joshua is smart. Bro, let us close it like this. See eh! Experience cannot be overlooked. There are clues in what I wrote. And those who are sensitive and matured already know my position on TB Joshua. But like I said I am not going to say good or evil about the man since he is dead. But if you are fortunate to lay your hands on one of his videos when he first started, you can analyze him very well. You dont need to use any spiritual gift to make any conclusion. Bro, God bless! 3 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:08pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:So what was exactly the point of mentioning me, and going on and on about what people were saying about his fruits when you actually believed the bolded? Or were you trying to confuse others? 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
When people talk about a professed man of God i don't take them seriously because they only judge based of what they think is virtuous, but that's not the same case with someone who claims to be a Bible student like you. That's why i purposely demanded to know what exactly you think about the fruit Jesus expected from his followers. And from the look of things you too don't know that fruit so i decided to expatiate on the fruit expected of any ministry in the name of Christ. TB Joshua was a good man but he never measured up to the fruit Jesus expected from his followers neither did any of all those trying to blacklist him as a demon! jesusjnr2020: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by donnie(m): 8:51pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: After going to beg for money or healing at Synagogue e nor work for you, now na to castigate am. 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:59pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
It's not about attack but how things supposed to be done. If they're doing the right thing God will punish whoever speaks abusively of their ministry {Numbers 12:8} but when they're doing the wrong thing God's wrath is greater on whoever knows how things supposed to be done but kept quiet about it! Ezekiel 33:7-9 So do not fear those who can kill the body but cannot kill the soul {Matthew 10:28} you once said the Holy Spirit permitted you to speak so if you truly believe in God's Holy Spirit then you don't need to be a respecter of any man. Act 10:34 Fear only God! Proverbs 25:29 God bless you! PeaceJoyLove: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Mr ISOLELE, who told you everyone goes to Synagogues for healing? donnie: |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by donnie(m): 9:01pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Na today.. you and I know what 90 percent go there for. 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:02pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:That's what they call itk. Nobody asked you any question. Only you began to ask questions and answer the questions you asked yourself. The bottom line is that you're no different from those who view TB Joshua as a false prophet so the bolded also applies to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:16pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: The highlighted is where you need enlightenment! I substantiated what true Christian ministry should produce and any ministry that's unable to produce such fruit is not working for Christ! Matthew 7:16-20 Whereas none of you has been able to bring out clear scriptural points to prove the man's ministry wrong, instead you're all saying "God opened your eyes" and expecting others to believe you! There's a difference between a teacher who gave you the formula to solve a difficult equation in order to get the answer yourself and those saying the answer without showing you how to work it out yourself. With the analysis i presented anyone can pick up the Bible to distinguish between false religionsts and true Christian ministry! 2 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Just as you're also crying all over Nairaland for Black ISOLELE! donnie: 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by ademidedavid(f): 6:38am On Jun 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Opoor 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Nuelito: 10:07am On Jun 20, 2021 |
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Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by SILVERLINES: 10:09am On Jun 20, 2021 |
Emvico34:you are a stak illiterate I pity ur miserable life 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Jacksparrow7(m): 10:09am On Jun 20, 2021 |
Emvico34:you talk like a fool 2 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Nobody: 10:11am On Jun 20, 2021 |
ademidedavid: the wisdom of humans is foolishness in the sight of God,. 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by LyfeJennings(m): 10:11am On Jun 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Please shut that buccal cavity of yours 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Nobody: 10:11am On Jun 20, 2021 |
Emvico34: My brother don't mind them,TB Josh was not serving the truth Christ. Something appeared to him but not Christ 2 Likes |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by LyfeJennings(m): 10:12am On Jun 20, 2021 |
SILVERLINES: It's the confidence for me He is confidently saying nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Prophet Abiara Visits TB Joshua's Wife, Says 'He Was A Real Man Of God' by Jokerman(m): 10:12am On Jun 20, 2021 |
Emvico34: How do you know they are in hell? 2 Likes |
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