etidy:
i am glad those giannis vs ad debate are dead. AD won one nba title has robin to lebron's batman and suddenly he was ranked as number 2 player in the league. person whey no win pass 1 playoff series on his own. iranu

Lool A40 has been vindicated yet again. Giannis 'No bag' Antetkounmpo dropped 50

AD is the more naturally gifted player but he's not a #1 guy like Giannis. Talent don't make you a #1. Your leadership and consistency is what makes you a #1. Throughout this playoffs only 3 games did Giannis not score at least 20 points. One of those games he was injured midway. His floor is 20-10-3. On a bad night you're sure of 20 and 10 from Giannis. This is why I rated him higher than AD

Just look at last night's game. Almost any other player we would have been talking about a Game 7. But Giannis carried the team on his back scoring 50 of their 105 points. We also saw a glimpse of what he can be if he becomes great at free throws.

I don't even think he needs a J. All he needs is to be a competent free throw shooter and I am sure it becomes a matter of how many points he wants to score any given night

joshboo:


The media dey make casuals see wetin dem wan see, but the real ones have always known who's better. The only thing AD has over him is shooting, asides that...... nothing

Guy calm down na. Don't let one season of mediocrity make you belittle AD. In prime form AD was better than Giannis. He was as good a rebounder. As good a defender. A better rim protector. A more dynamic scorer. Giannis is s better passer, he's more aggressive and quicker. Recency bias is a thing man

birdman:


Probably. BUT I didnt like when he said that. The press will help make that this big, negative argument that overshadows the win.

After career is over, nba cats are going to be your number 1 support structure. Dont sh** where you eat. Contract money will only get you so far. At some point you will need older players who are successful in business and non profits. Lebron, magic, shaq etc

Im sure he will learn this sooner or later. Dont make enemies just for sound bite sake

Lmaoooo Giannis is probably going to make over $400m living in small town Milwaukee. That money will get him very far. He's not American plus he's going to get plenty endorsements moving forward. Humble, drama free. Hell his jerseys are already at #5. You think the sales won't go up moving forward, you think his shoes won't sell more?

I promise you he doesn't need anybody. Besides him no send them and them no send am. This is someone that has talked about going back to Greece to play when his career winds down. Outside NBA there's nothing he shares with the American lifestyle and culture. I will be shocked if he remains there

benji93:
CP3 says they anticipated a miss. Even Giannis did. You better win this series. You better win this series, because we'll tell you something we've always anticipated.

Hahahaha. Never quite been a fan of CP3. You should see the video they used to troll him

joshboo:


Omo i don defend lefraud tire for this thread but omo be like many of this main stream media guys dey on him payroll, fans dey joke about am but i won't be suprised is it's done literally.

He can afford it and is a bit of a megalomaniac. I won't rule it out

joshboo:

Then those bums in ESPN they always do the most in every sport, they stir up controversy solely for engagements and ratings nothing more, cos most of thier takes no dey always make sense.
Max kellerman is smart but be like na him dem dey always give the mumu script to always look n sound stupid since SAS is their biggest star . The guys wey dey analyze football are worse, it's all for ratings for them.

Imagine max saying he trusts Trae young over steph, like even if na ment sef him ment suppose get limit, but at the end of the day anything for ratings & clout is what they care about.

They have chosen sizzle over substance for the most part. I actually prefer their football guys except Keyshawn. Keyshawn and Kendrick are by far their worst analysts on the network. But gun to my head I'd pick Kendrick. He's more mascot than analyst

A40:
Lool A40 has been vindicated yet again. Giannis 'No bag' Antetkounmpo dropped 50

AD is the more naturally gifted player but he's not a #1 guy like Giannis. Talent don't make you a #1. Your leadership and consistency is what makes you a #1. Throughout this playoffs only 3 games did Giannis not score at least 20 points. One of those games he was injured midway. His floor is 20-10-3. On a bad night you're sure of 20 and 10 from Giannis. This is why I rated him higher than AD

Just look at last night's game. Almost any other player we would have been talking about a Game 7. But Giannis carried the team on his back scoring 50 of their 105 points. We also saw a glimpse of what he can be if he becomes great at free throws.

I don't even think he needs a J. All he needs is to be a competent free throw shooter and I am sure it becomes a matter of how many points he wants to score any given night

Absolutely agree with you, IMHO all I think he needs to improve is
1. Get his FT% to at least 75%.
2. If he can consistently make shots from 12ft in, either hook shot, or the fade away he has been using sometimes, if he can hit those 50-60% of the time, then it is over for the rest of the league.

PS: if I am to pick just one, then the FTs at 75% should be his first target.

A40:
Lmaoooo Giannis is probably going to make over $400m living in small town Milwaukee. That money will get him very far. He's not American plus he's going to get plenty endorsements moving forward. Humble, drama free. Hell his jerseys are already at #5. You think the sales won't go up moving forward, you think his shoes won't sell more?

I promise you he doesn't need anybody. Besides him no send them and them no send am. This is someone that has talked about going back to Greece to play when his career winds down. Outside NBA there's nothing he shares with the American lifestyle and culture. I will be shocked if he remains there

His ties with Greece strong no be small. I can definitely see him moving there after his career. The only thing that can hinder that IMO is his partner who will add another dimension.

steady986:

Guy calm down na. Don't let one season of mediocrity make you belittle AD. In prime form AD was better than Giannis. He was as good a rebounder. As good a defender. A better rim protector. A more dynamic scorer. Giannis is s better passer, he's more aggressive and quicker. Recency bias is a thing man

But the real difference is Giannis is way way tougher mentally

I sincerely hope he has that under control. Stuffs like this should be properly discussed before you get down, even though it's not that simple.

Khanben:



His ties with Greece strong no be small. I can definitely see him moving there after his career. The only thing that can hinder that IMO is his partner who will add another dimension.

Khanben:



His ties with Greece strong no be small. I can definitely see him moving there after his career. The only thing that can hinder that IMO is his partner who will add another dimension.

Lmaoooo which kin partner. If she don't pack her things and come with me. Your man worth over a quarter of a billion you're doing stronghead. Who know am if not for Giannis

Khanben:


Absolutely agree with you, IMHO all I think he needs to improve is
1. Get his FT% to at least 75%.
2. If he can consistently make shots from 12ft in, either hook shot, or the fade away he has been using sometimes, if he can hit those 50-60% of the time, then it is over for the rest of the league.

PS: if I am to pick just one, then the FTs at 75% should be his first target.

For me it's his free throws before any other thing because as we saw last night the man can't be stopped from getting to the basket. We saw in the all star game where he went 16/16 as well. If he takes it to the basket good things will happen.

The hook shot will also be a good addition to his skillset but I believe provided he keeps going hard in the paint he will keep getting fouled and that will make it even more critical that he becomes more proficient at the line.

What stood out to me is that he only took 2 3pt attempts and I hope that's how he continues moving forward. Infact he should be fined each time he takes more than 3 pointers in a game. Each time he takes them he's balling the defense out

Roland17:


Oh man! It’s probably not going to happen with CP3 with the Suns! I expect the assemblers especially the chief assembler to continue his campaign to recruit 2 more all stars for the Lakers.. lol. As Chef Curry don turn am down make we see

Lol was LeNomad really trying to recruit Steph or na just bants.

Stephen A was taking Ls left, right and center today trying to defend KD. Max smoked him

Khanben:


But the real difference is Giannis is way way tougher mentally

I agree 100%. And that's why AD might never be the alpha on a championship team. But based on skillset, AD is on another level.

AD vs Giannis is kind of like the LeBron vs KD comparison. One is extremely skilled especially in putting the ball in the basket while the other is just a flat out Dawg and a leader. That's why KD has never been considered better than Bron in this league even though he had the skillset to be better. We've seen that he needs someone to be the leader while he just does his thing lowkey. Even in OKC he was clearly the best player but Westbrook was the alpha, even finishing higher in MVP rankings a couple of times when they were together.

Khanben:


But the real difference is Giannis is way way tougher mentally

No sugar coating, Giannis is better. Be like una dey forget Davis was a number one pick and the pelicans was built around him just like for Ugo, Davis played with prime boogie, Rondo and this same jrue holiday.

A40:
Lol was LeNomad really trying to recruit Steph or na just bants.

No be bants oo, chief assembler Wan assemble up again. From nba sources he wants either Luka. Dame or Steph. Imagine claiming you the goat and you keep going this route. I love LBJ 100%, but the guy is na joker.

steady986:


I agree 100%. And that's why AD might never be the alpha on a championship team. But based on skillset, AD is on another level.

AD vs Giannis is kind of like the LeBron vs KD comparison. One is extremely skilled especially in putting the ball in the basket while the other is just a flat out Dawg and a leader. That's why KD has never been considered better than Bron in this league even though he had the skillset to be better. We've seen that he needs someone to be the leader while he just does his thing lowkey. Even in OKC he was clearly the best player but Westbrook was the alpha, even finishing higher in MVP rankings a couple of times when they were together.

Omo can't wait for next season sha, God willing all the big boys come back healthy let's enjoy the game of hoops again.
Make Dame go team up with Embiid, that should be a perfect fit, but na coach go kill that Philly team again though.

Lets see who the mavericks would recruit to pair Luka since kristap wan commot, let's also see of zion can start living up to this tag as the next big thing since LBJ.

A40:
Lol was LeNomad really trying to recruit Steph or na just bants.

If I hear say na just bants! Dem no born dem well make dem deny am.

Even him official mouth piece on mainstream media Ryan Windhorst acknowledged it. LeBum started recruiting the Chef at the All Star games, it was known! Warriors owner, Joe Lacob had to make a public statement about it, he acknowledged he was aware but was not worried because he had a positive and reassuring conversation with Curry about it!

The man is the General Assembler! Make we no forget say he actively tried to recruit Kawhi after they landed AD ;Dbut Kawhi turned him down ! Make we no forget that one oh! People wan kpai on top KD matter but General Assembler wen dey coordinate him talent across the league na Saint! Una go choke on top KD matter!

I have said it before and I will repeat, the only exceptions are Giannis/ Dirk and Kawhi..More so for the first 2 because they did it in a small market.

Ole ni everybody, yahoo ni babalawo!!!

joshboo:



No be bants oo, chief assembler Wan assemble up again. From nba sources he wants either Luka. Dame or Steph. Imagine claiming you the goat and you keep going this route. I love LBJ 100%, but the guy is na joker.

Baba we are talking about a nomad that took his talents to South Beach to team up with FIRST BALLOT HOF Players... After riding that ship, he set sail to LA.. The Lakers binned their young core because he wanted nothing to do with a rebuild which ultimately led to the firing of Magic Johnson.
Baba assembled AD and tried his best to get Kawhi but Kawhi turn am down! Well, he got his Mickey Mouse ring and now he is recruiting Dame...no be news again. The Chef is not leaving, he has already made that known to LeBum and has given the Warriors owner his assurances.
The Warriors will be stronger with Klay returning next season but I feel they are a player short.

Roland17:


Baba we are talking about a nomad that took his talents to South Beach to team up with FIRST BALLOT HOF Players... After riding that ship, he set sail to LA.. The Lakers binned their young core because he wanted nothing to do with a rebuild which ultimately led to the firing of Magic Johnson.
Baba assembled AD and tried his best to get Kawhi but Kawhi turn am down! Well, he got his Mickey Mouse ring and now he is recruiting Dame...no be news again. The Chef is not leaving, he has already made that known to LeBum and has given the Warriors owner his assurances.
The Warriors will be stronger with Klay returning next season but I feel they are a player short.

Prime cris bosh, d wade, Ray Allen. Omo LBJ na plain thief, I knew kawhi was never teaming up with him, that one no get power for unnecessary drama.

If dame is smart he should never team up with LBJ.

I honestly don't think Klay can be the same again. And the warriors too nees better pieces between Draymond green just dey regress every season.

lebron really tried recruiting steph?

joshboo:


Prime cris bosh, d wade, Ray Allen. Omo LBJ na plain thief, I knew kawhi was never teaming up with him, that one no get power for unnecessary drama.

If dame is smart he should never team up with LBJ.

I honestly don't think Klay can be the same again. And the warriors too nees better pieces between Draymond green just dey regress every season.

Baba!

3 FIRST BALLOT HOF players in Miam ohhhhhhi!!! Only You! Kilode!!!!!

Lets forget that he lost his first attempt to a ring at South Beach to a Dirk led team (If dem born anybody well, make e mention Jason Kidd and I will remind you Kidd was 38 years old..38 oh, not 31 0r 32) who played the bulk of the series sick..The same player LeBum mocked and made jest of before game 5 oh, but guess who did the talking on the court? Dirk!!!!! Dem wan come dey talk about KD like say their Bum na saint!! Me I no dey forget oh!

Lets not pretend like Kyrie Irving with all his issues and K. Love were scrubs when he returned to Cleveland! Those cats are going to the HOF, they already amassed multiple All Star Appearances.

You and everyone already sabi say the Slimreaper na my guy! I don't care if anyone hates his personality, all that matter to me is the fact that he can ball! If you are aggressively staning LeBum just to hate on KD, then the table go collapse for your head. Whether he joined a 73-9 team or a 1-81 team to form a super team is irrelevant! At the end of the day, he is not alone on that table!

If anybody real MCM is no be Giannis/ Dirk/ Kawhi and Chef Curry (the first ring) then my brother make dem miss me with that crap.

Shebi na Agenda? We shall Agend!!!!

Ole ni everybody, yahoo ni babalawo!

A40:
AD is more naturally gifted than Giannis but he can't carry the load Giannis is carrying in Milwaukee. Simple concept that should not be too hard to grasp

A40:
He has led his team in all stats except blocks this year. There was a year he led his team in every statistical category for the season. AD cannot shoulder the load Giannis is shouldering in Milwaukee. This is not up for debate

A40:
Exactly. Giannis style might not be aesthetically pleasing to a purist but there is something about a baller that wants all the smoke on both ends of the floor. Somehow some way they will have their team playing better than their talent levels

40stradamus has been preaching the gospel of Giannis since Day 1

So the question is what percentage of greatness goes to mental toughness? Surely greatness doesn't come only from talent/skillset.

steady986:


I agree 100%. And that's why AD might never be the alpha on a championship team. But based on skillset, AD is on another level.

AD vs Giannis is kind of like the LeBron vs KD comparison. One is extremely skilled especially in putting the ball in the basket while the other is just a flat out Dawg and a leader. That's why KD has never been considered better than Bron in this league even though he had the skillset to be better. We've seen that he needs someone to be the leader while he just does his thing lowkey. Even in OKC he was clearly the best player but Westbrook was the alpha, even finishing higher in MVP rankings a couple of times when they were together.

There was a time we debated the AD/Giannis issue here when even bringing up Giannis in comparison to AD was strangely an insult to the person of AD. I suppose we are past that now.

A40:






40stradamus has been preaching the gospel of Giannis since Day 1

Roland17:


If I hear say na just bants! Dem no born dem well make dem deny am.

Even him official mouth piece on mainstream media Ryan Windhorst acknowledged it. LeBum started recruiting the Chef at the All Star games, it was known! Warriors owner, Joe Lacob had to make a public statement about it, he acknowledged he was aware but was not worried because he had a positive and reassuring conversation with Curry about it!

The man is the General Assembler! Make we no forget say he actively tried to recruit Kawhi after they landed AD ;Dbut Kawhi turned him down ! Make we no forget that one oh! People wan kpai on top KD matter but General Assembler wen dey coordinate him talent across the league na Saint! Una go choke on top KD matter!

I have said it before and I will repeat, the only exceptions are Giannis/ Dirk and Kawhi..More so for the first 2 because they did it in a small market.

Ole ni everybody, yahoo ni babalawo!!!

I don't know who I would even be more disappointed in between Steph or Lebron if this happens. How does it improve either of them's legacy sef?

We all kinda agree KD joining the Warriors eliminated him from GOAT consideration so how does playing with Steph and AD boost Lenomad's GOAT campaign among objective fans

benji93:
There was a time we debated the AD/Giannis issue here when even bringing up Giannis in comparison to AD was strangely an insult to the person of AD. I suppose we are past that now.

Very funny argument but thank God time has opened everyone's eyes. That extra intangible that separates the greats from the all time greats Giannis has and AD has not shown us he has yet.

Nobody can sit here and objectively argue that AD could have led this Bucks team to a title

When it comes to their individual achievements Giannis has more hardware. He now has a ring so there is no coherent argument to suggest AD is better

A40:
For me it's his free throws before any other thing because as we saw last night the man can't be stopped from getting to the basket. We saw in the all star game where he went 16/16 as well. If he takes it to the basket good things will happen.

The hook shot will also be a good addition to his skillset but I believe provided he keeps going hard in the paint he will keep getting fouled and that will make it even more critical that he becomes more proficient at the line.

What stood out to me is that he only took 2 3pt attempts and I hope that's how he continues moving forward. Infact he should be fined each time he takes more than 3 pointers in a game. Each time he takes them he's balling the defense out

Totally agree with that fine concept. Maybe a bet with his coach or brother

joshboo:


Omo can't wait for next season sha, God willing all the big boys come back healthy let's enjoy the game of hoops again.
Make Dame go team up with Embiid, that should be a perfect fit, but na coach go kill that Philly team again though.

Lets see who the mavericks would recruit to pair Luka since kristap wan commot, let's also see of zion can start living up to this tag as the next big thing since LBJ.

KP might not leave, because if you read what he said about the Clippers series recently it seems him just sitting around the 3pt line and not receiving any low post touches was actually the game plan. If Jkidd can get both Luka and KP into their bubble symmetry with the caveat that KP stays healthy, then with the right 6th man the Mavs can make some noise next season

A40:
Very funny argument but thank God time has opened everyone's eyes. That extra intangible that separates the greats from the all time greats Giannis has and AD has not shown us he has yet.

Nobody can sit here and objectively argue that AD could have led this Bucks team to a title

When it comes to their individual achievements Giannis has more hardware. He now has a ring so there is no coherent argument to suggest AD is better

If you switch Giannis for AD they get bounced in the 2nd round by the nets.

benji93:
So the question is what percentage of greatness goes to mental toughness? Surely greatness doesn't come only from talent/skillset.

A lot. In fact in this league mental toughness is regarded over skill. A lot of people have skill/ability in this league, but it's the tough ones that separate themselves.

joshboo:


Omo can't wait for next season sha, God willing all the big boys come back healthy let's enjoy the game of hoops again.
Make Dame go team up with Embiid, that should be a perfect fit, but na coach go kill that Philly team again though.

Lets see who the mavericks would recruit to pair Luka since kristap wan commot, let's also see of zion can start living up to this tag as the next big thing since LBJ.

For real.

Especially that Luka and Dame. Portland looked like a good team going into the playoffs, only to get ousted by the weakest link in the west who were without their second best player. Whatever they're trying to build there in not working. Dame needs a solid big or forward. Luka too.