Khanben:



AD'S mentality is seriously suspect, he wins a chip after which he should have played with more freedom and less pressure, which would have resulted in him dominating the league. But what happens he has a huge slump and cannot even stay fit, he is very talented and his skillset is up there but the guy is a settler. He is easily satisfied and enjoys the comfort zone too much to be an all time great.

Lol. Players are now being blamed for getting injured?

steady986:


Nobody is comparing AD to Giannis at this point. We all agree Giannis is greater than him.

But we know in this league everything has to fall in place for you to be successful. There's a thin line between failure and success. You're saying AD had Jrue Holiday and didn't achieve anything with him. Really? Did you see how Jrue was unreliable in these playoffs? The only year AD had Rondo he made the second round of the playoffs, sweeping Dame in the first round. That was a taste of what you get when you give AD a decent player. That was the same season he had Cousins but obviously he didn't play in the playoffs due to injury.

I asked you if you think AD would have had more playoff success in the East and you said no. But you're not being fair. The west is a different beast. It's almost impossible to make the playoffs as a lone superstar, let alone do well in it, especially if your sidekick is average or below average, or if you have a shitty team. Ask Curry this season. Ask KAT. Heck ask Zion who's a generational talent. Believe you me, as the west is presently constructed, if Zion doesn't get a decent sidekick, he wouldn't make the playoffs until his rookie contract expires. And AD never even dreamt of having the kind of team Zion has now. Look at Luka, he can't make it out of the first round.

No one is exonerating AD, he probably could have done better, but his situation at New Orleans was undesirable.

Yet an Eastern team won the championship. Guy read carefully what you have written and tell me if strong headache no go catch you.

lordbeans:


Yet an Eastern team won the championship. Guy read carefully what you have written and tell me if strong headache no go catch you.

steady986:


Nobody is comparing AD to Giannis at this point. We all agree Giannis is greater than him.

But we know in this league everything has to fall in place for you to be successful. There's a thin line between failure and success. You're saying AD had Jrue Holiday and didn't achieve anything with him. Really? Did you see how Jrue was unreliable in these playoffs? The only year AD had Rondo he made the second round of the playoffs, sweeping Dame in the first round. That was a taste of what you get when you give AD a decent player. That was the same season he had Cousins but obviously he didn't play in the playoffs due to injury.

I asked you if you think AD would have had more playoff success in the East and you said no. But you're not being fair. The west is a different beast. It's almost impossible to make the playoffs as a lone superstar, let alone do well in it, especially if your sidekick is average or below average, or if you have a shitty team. Ask Curry this season. Ask KAT. Heck ask Zion who's a generational talent. Believe you me, as the west is presently constructed, if Zion doesn't get a decent sidekick, he wouldn't make the playoffs until his rookie contract expires. And AD never even dreamt of having the kind of team Zion has now. Look at Luka, he can't make it out of the first round.

No one is exonerating AD, he probably could have done better, but his situation at New Orleans was undesirable.

Simple question. Swap AD and giannis in this playoffs run/win, would the bucks have won the Championship?

lordbeans:


Yet an Eastern team won the championship. Guy read carefully what you have written and tell me if strong headache no go catch you.

Who be this one? Move one side jare

joshboo:



Simple question. Swap AD and giannis in this playoffs run/win, would the bucks have won the Championship?

I can name so many people who wouldn't have won. KD wouldn't have won. Steph wouldn't have won. Harden wouldn't have won. Embiid wouldn't have won. So what exactly is your point?

steady986:


Lol. Players are now being blamed for getting injured?

You can if you are out of shape. AD and Harden this season for different reasons came in looking out of shape

steady986:


I can name so many people who wouldn't have won. KD wouldn't have won. Steph wouldn't have won. Harden wouldn't have won. Embiid wouldn't have won. So what exactly is your point?

I disagree with KD, you put him in this Bucks side and they still probably the chip. The other guys I agree.
After last season win, AD was talked about as if he would not only be the number 1 option for the Lakers but also the best player in the league, but he simply went the other route and it can be argued that this season he was not a top 10 player

Khanben:



AD'S mentality is seriously suspect, he wins a chip after which he should have played with more freedom and less pressure, which would have resulted in him dominating the league. But what happens he has a huge slump and cannot even stay fit, he is very talented and his skillset is up there but the guy is a settler. He is easily satisfied and enjoys the comfort zone too much to be an all time great.

What huge slump are you talking about? He was in the path until he suffered recurring injuries.. He suffered an injury, how in God’s name is that is fault? Do you have the slightest idea of how vulnerable a player with his physical stats is to injuries? I get it and no longer contesting, Giannis is better at leading a lead to a chip in comparison to AD but using this your narrative is not any different from what mainstream media did after AD went down! He was not overweight, his conditioning was excellent, he tried to play with that injury but made it worse but some how, you are alluding to the same narrative that it was AD’s fault that he is injured.

When LeBum picked AD out to join the Lakers, he did not think AD was good enough? Make una stop some of these things. Belittling or devaluing a player because you want to prove the worth of yours is not being objective. What do you mean by he is easily satisfied? According to who? You? Have you watched him in the gym and practice? He was runner up in the DPOY (2019-2020) despite missing a chunk of the season. Come on na! A healthy AD would have put the Suns away in the playoffs! We saw the difference he made when he was on the court.

Small time Na una go still dey vex about mainstream media narrative about Giannis but somehow, you are using it against AD, worsestill in a situation he has 0 control over.

joshboo:



Simple question. Swap AD and giannis in this playoffs run/win, would the bucks have won the Championship?

Who were the anointed favorites to come out of the East? I mean after Harden and Kyrie went down?

Who went through the playoffs with the healthiest team especially their core players?

Roland17:


Who were the anointed favorites to come out of the East? I mean after Harden and Kyrie went down?

Who went through the playoffs with the healthiest team especially their core players?

I tipped the bucks to win the series even with Kyrie and Harden fit. I kuku said it before that AD is way more talented as compared to giannis but AD hasn't shown he has the capacity to lead to team to a championship, this is with his fitness issues aside now,i don't see him as one who pushes himself to that level of wanting to become the best, he thrives more on his natural capabilities. Make I put am like this
AD= Messi
Giannis = Ronaldo.
Both are good but one always plays and seem to want it more which is Giannis. Hopefully Lefraud retires soon or AD goes on to be the number 1option on a team again, we'll see how far he can lead a team.

Are you alright? . Which kind of useless comparison is this? You better shut up if you know want make we knack plank for your head.

joshboo:


I tipped the bucks to win the series even with Kyrie and Harden fit. I kuku said it before that AD is way more talented as compared to giannis but AD hasn't shown he has the capacity to lead to team to a championship, this is with his fitness issues aside now,i don't see him as one who pushes himself to that level of wanting to become the best, he thrives more on his natural capabilities. Make I put am like this
AD= Messi
Giannis = Ronaldo.
Both are good but one always plays and seem to want it more which is Giannis. Hopefully Lefraud retires soon or AD goes on to be the number 1option on a team again, we'll see how far he can lead a team.

Roland17:


What huge slump are you talking about? He was in the path until he suffered recurring injuries.. He suffered an injury, how in God’s name is that is fault? Do you have the slightest idea of how vulnerable a player with his physical stats is to injuries? I get it and no longer contesting, Giannis is better at leading a lead to a chip in comparison to AD but using this your narrative is not any different from what mainstream media did after AD went down! He was not overweight, his conditioning was excellent, he tried to play with that injury but made it worse but some how, you are alluding to the same narrative that it was AD’s fault that he is injured.

When LeBum picked AD out to join the Lakers, he did not think AD was good enough? Make una stop some of these things. Belittling or devaluing a player because you want to prove the worth of yours is not being objective. What do you mean by he is easily satisfied? According to who? You? Have you watched him in the gym and practice? He was runner up in the DPOY (2019-2020) despite missing a chunk of the season. Come on na! A healthy AD would have put the Suns away in the playoffs! We saw the difference he made when he was on the court.

Small time Na una go still dey vex about mainstream media narrative about Giannis but somehow, you are using it against AD, worsestill in a situation he has 0 control over.

I am not talking about AD's body of work, but I was disappointed about this last season. When a player keeps getting niggling muscle injuries it is usually a question of fitness. Harden came into this season overweight so as to force a trade and for the first time in ages he cannot stay fit. As for AD, news and rumors persist that he does not commit to an off-season fitness program like some of the other elite players do. If he now has a season where he started off flat and never ever got going because of muscular issues what logical conclusion do you expect me to draw. Same thing with Luka he comes in out of shape hoping to play himself into shape, he is just lucky that the mileage on his body is not much, even at that we can still see the injuries at one point or the other.
On the flip side is a player like CP3, who has been trying different things to see what works and for the second consecutive season he has been able to finish a season without muscular issues ending it for him. Same with Jokic, committing to a off-season program and for the first time in his career he played all the games and got the MVP as just reward.

In the age we are in if a player is doing his utmost best to prepare himself and prevent injuries the news will be out there, but if you don't do that and end up spending the season getting treatment for one thing or the other then IMHO I think it is a justifiable criticism of said player.

PS: Embiid just had his best season in the league, and we all heard the news about him taking his diet and offseason workouts more seriously and save for his knee which already has preexisting issues he was by and large fit this year

joshboo:


I tipped the bucks to win the series even with Kyrie and Harden fit. I kuku said it before that AD is way more talented as compared to giannis but AD hasn't shown he has the capacity to lead to team to a championship, this is with his fitness issues aside now,i don't see him as one who pushes himself to that level of wanting to become the best, he thrives more on his natural capabilities. Make I put am like this
AD= Messi
Giannis = Ronaldo.
Both are good but one always plays and seem to want it more which is Giannis. Hopefully Lefraud retires soon or AD goes on to be the number 1option on a team again, we'll see how far he can lead a team.

AD is Messi before he started taking care of his body, people tend to forget that Messi used to injury prone until he stared following a strict diet and increasing his off-season workout rather than just going to Argentina to chill.
I am not saying if AD follows a diet and an offseason program designed specifically for him he will turn in iron man like lebron,but at least we will know he has done his part.

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Khanben:


I disagree with KD, you put him in this Bucks side and they still probably the chip. The other guys I agree.
After last season win, AD was talked about as if he would not only be the number 1 option for the Lakers but also the best player in the league, but he simply went the other route and it can be argued that this season he was not a top 10 player

No be only KD. KD was with MVP calibre Westbrook for several seasons yet nothing to show for it. When his sidekicks went down in the Bucks series it was one superstar apiece on either team. Yet Giannis prevailed. There's no proof whatsoever that KD would have led this Bucks team to a championship.

As for your comments on AD, he was injured, and that's just the bottom line. It's unfair to cast judgement on a player when he barely even had a chance to prove himself.

Khanben:



I am not talking about AD's body of work, but I was disappointed about this last season. When a player keeps getting niggling muscle injuries it is usually a question of fitness. Harden came into this season overweight so as to force a trade and for the first time in ages he cannot stay fit. As for AD news and rumors persist that he does not commit to an off-season fitness program like some of the other elite players does. If he now has a season where he started off flat and never ever got going because of muscular issues what logical conclusion do you expect me to draw. Same thing with Luka he comes in out of shape hoping to play himself into shape, he is just lucky that the mileage on his body is not much even at that we can still see the injuries at one point or the other.
I aLook at CP3, he

If I dared debate using rumors/ gossips/ hearsays about anybody, I would immediately be labelled a hater. AD finished the bubble with a damaged shoulder, right knee, tail bone injuries and with a shorter off season, he had to rebound, bounce back for the regular season with no time to heal/ recover.
Once again, these are just here says! Baba, instead of reading rumors, why not research AD's summer and offseason work outs? This man works just as hard as anyone I have seen especially for his size. It's summer time now and he is on the grind but just because he does not publicize it like others, he is not acknowledged.
Embiid is a 7 footer that has struggled to stay healthy but somehow no one remember it or you can excuse it because of his knee. Show me a picture of AD overweight? A picture of AD fat! You are bringing up Luke and Harden like AD came into the season overweight!!! Come on man!!!! Niggling muscle injuries you say? How is that AD's fault?

una dey para o, person even want knack plank for another person head

joshboo:


I tipped the bucks to win the series even with Kyrie and Harden fit. I kuku said it before that AD is way more talented as compared to giannis but AD hasn't shown he has the capacity to lead to team to a championship, this is with his fitness issues aside now,i don't see him as one who pushes himself to that level of wanting to become the best, he thrives more on his natural capabilities. Make I put am like this
AD= Messi
Giannis = Ronaldo.
Both are good but one always plays and seem to want it more which is Giannis. Hopefully Lefraud retires soon or AD goes on to be the number 1option on a team again, we'll see how far he can lead a team.

How does Ronaldo want it more than Messi when Messi has achieved pretty much everything Ronaldo has and some more?

Secondly if you have Giannis= Ronaldo, you better be having a Steph/KD/Kawhi as Messi not AD.

I'm convinced Lebron has many of this guys in his payroll honestly, or he gets this guys to always talk about him trough that Rich Paul guy. Cos which kind stupid talk be this? Dude always wants to be in the media/News so bad. Now it's about giannis and the Bucks but someway somehow they must squeeze lefraud in.

donlittle25:
una dey para o, person even want knack plank for another person head

chic2pimp:


How does Ronaldo want it more than Messi when Messi has achieved pretty much everything Ronaldo has and some more?

Secondly if you have Giannis= Ronaldo, you better be having a Steph/KD/Kawhi as Messi not AD.

Oga you dey land of queens English, you should understand English better. The comparison was between AD and Ugo.

Who's talking about achievements here? I'm talking about their talent level and style of play.

Who doesn't know Messi is a natural that plays more with finesse as compared to Ronaldo who worked hard built himself to become a machine?
Is Messi not more talented than Ronaldo even though my Goat is CR7.

benji93:
Are you alright? . Which kind of useless comparison is this? You better shut up if you know want make we knack plank for your head.

I said what I said, hug transformer if you don't resonate with that....

donlittle25:
una dey para o, person even want knack plank for another person head

My brother, I just tire

Khanben:



I am not talking about AD's body of work, but I was disappointed about this last season. When a player keeps getting niggling muscle injuries it is usually a question of fitness. Harden came into this season overweight so as to force a trade and for the first time in ages he cannot stay fit. As for AD, news and rumors persist that he does not commit to an off-season fitness program like some of the other elite players do. If he now has a season where he started off flat and never ever got going because of muscular issues what logical conclusion do you expect me to draw. Same thing with Luka he comes in out of shape hoping to play himself into shape, he is just lucky that the mileage on his body is not much, even at that we can still see the injuries at one point or the other.
On the flip side is a player like CP3, who has been trying different things to see what works and for the second consecutive season he has been able to finish a season without muscular issues ending it for him. Same with Jokic, committing to a off-season program and for the first time in his career he played all the games and got the MVP as just reward.

In the age we are in if a player is doing his utmost best to prepare himself and prevent injuries the news will be out there, but if you don't do that and end up spending the season getting treatment for one thing or the other then IMHO I think it is a justifiable criticism of said player.

PS: Embiid just had his best season in the league, and we all heard the news about him taking his diet and offseason workouts more seriously and save for his knee which already has preexisting issues he was by and large fit this year

Injuries can happen to anyone regardless of Diet and workout plan. AD just like Embiid are just naturally injury prone.

You may want to be careful about your take on KD. It's quite complicated. Without Kyrie or James Harden, the Brooklyn Nets weren't good. Just a Superstar and some decent role players. The Bucks on the other hand were a Superstar+ 2 All-stars, with one of those two occasionally dropping superstar numbers.The problem is how to judge the contribution of Kyrie and James Harden. Some would say that although he had one other Superstar of 6.5 of those 7 games, one of them played through recovery, others like yourself would say, nope, he couldn't get it done, half-an-inch of his shoe away from the ECF or not. . We may have to wait till next season. Take it easy on KD abeg.

steady986:


No be only KD. KD was with MVP calibre Westbrook for several seasons yet nothing to show for it. When his sidekicks went down in the Bucks series it was one superstar apiece on either team. Yet Giannis prevailed. There's no proof whatsoever that KD would have led this Bucks team to a championship.

As for your comments on AD, he was injured, and that's just the bottom line. It's unfair to cast judgement on a player when he barely even had a chance to prove himself.

Accept that it was a shitty comparison and move on. . From the actual post, certainly, talent wasn't the only quality in the picture, even though you make it seem like one. The only way that comaprison can be looked at in the first place is if it's on on who's more talented/who's achieved more at this point. Accept that was moot and move on. Very simple stuffs. . You can certainly tell us AD is better skilled but Giannis has achieved more or leads better without bringing Messi/Ronaldo in. And miss me with the transformer bullshit. Don't run away.

joshboo:


I said what I said, hug transformer if you don't resonate with that....

Na why i wan knack plank for him head be that. . Perhaps that will bring back to reality.

chic2pimp:


How does Ronaldo want it more than Messi when Messi has achieved pretty much everything Ronaldo has and some more?

Secondly if you have Giannis= Ronaldo, you better be having a Steph/KD/Kawhi as Messi not AD.

joshboo:


Oga you dey land of queens English, you should understand English better. The comparison was between AD and Ugo.

Who's talking about achievements here? I'm talking about their talent level and style of play.

Who doesn't know Messi is a natural that plays more with finesse as compared to Ronaldo who worked hard built himself to become a machine?
Is Messi not more talented than Ronaldo even though my Goat is CR7.

I no dey take una peeps fight o. All of una be my padi for this place .

Nah I still disagree. In terms of Talent and style of play, a much better comparison in my opinion would have been KD and Giannis. AD in this instance would be like a Neymar imo. Some or should I say many might disagree but I still have KD as the Best player in the League just slightly ahead of Giannis.

benji93:
Na why i wan knack plank for him head be that. . Perhaps that will bring back to reality.

Haaaaaaaaa! ...No need for plank knacking abeg

benji93:
You may want to be careful about your take on KD. It's quite complicated. Without Kyrie or James Harden, the Brooklyn Nets weren't good. Just a Superstar and some decent role players. The Bucks on the other hand were a Superstar+ 2 All-stars, with one of those two occasionally dropping superstar numbers.The problem is how to judge the contribution of Kyrie and James Harden. Some would say that although he had one other Superstar of 6.5 of those 7 games, one of them played through recovery, others like yourself would say, nope, he couldn't get it done, half-an-inch of his shoe away from the ECF or not. . We may have to wait till next season. Take it easy on KD abeg.

KD is the most gifted offensive player in the league today, but his one dimensional nature was the reason they couldn't beat the Bucks. Imagine if he could impact the game for the Nets on defense just as much as he did on the offensive end. Or in facilitating. I know he got that 10 assists in game 5, but he averaged 5.4 assists for that series. That can't happen if you're the only fit superstar available for your team. That was the time he most needed to get his teammates involved. I agree with Pippen when he said KD lost that series because he was only interested in scoring.

I’ll tip giannis and kd as the best players right now...giannis had one horrific injury and still played and won..without a bonafide superstar..everyone knows KD is a flamethrower with a shovel he’ll bury you..yes the bucks were a toe away from going home but who is destined to win will win..he has everything...giannis can’t shoot yes but the guy works hard and had 17-19 FT % in the finals..i was blown away..dude stepped up big time..I can’t compare giannis with AD..two very different kinds of players..skillset and shooting wise AD is better but speed,defensively and mindset..giannis is better and will certainly guarantee you 30 points plus..AD couldn’t take the pelicans anywhere and he had jrue and prime boogie...I’ll take giannis anyday anytime over AD..oscar robertson today said only AD is capable of guarding giannis..maybe,maybe not..they’ll still face each other more and we’ll see