majorbravo:
My question is, why didn’t they transfer the pastors from the villages to the city instead of sacking them?

If you anointed them as pastors who you believe have the fear of God in them. Why not transfer them to where they can succeed in soul winning and then send the city pastors to rural areas in their place?

Why sack an anointed who has not committed any sin?

Alot of people have said funny things here including your comment. I wl reply ur questions in a bit.... Now what most people don't know is d unruly attitude of some of this new pastors, I am a winners member n 3 among some of this new pastors under our station (branch whr I worship) might also be sacked for reasons such as embezzlement n absenteeism (1 of em collected over 400k 4 land n disappeared), two others only go for Sunday services in their respective stations when it's convenient. They have all been queried and haven't changed, when they are sacked, they will use the same template (letter), if any of em go to social media to cry, de will not tell u what de did wrong bt say wt suits their narrative.

What should the church do? Instead of using the word "unfruitful" which entails absenteeism, misconduct, embezzlement, Little to no evangelism, lack of growth etc, - the church can be more direct by stating what de did wrong in each one's case cos I know de would av received queries b4 d sack.


Now to ur question: Been sacked by winners doesn't invalidate their calling, nobody was there whn God called em, so de can go open their ministry, become evangelist, try other ministries etc.

Secondly, u want d city Pastors transferred to villages n village pastors moved to cities? Trust me while d city Pastors WL definitely be productive in d villages, d village pastors might end up scattering d city churches 4 obvious reasons. May I ask u a question, will u becos u love ur 3 yrs old son gv him d key to 1 of ur cars to drive himself to school? Or tell him not to try standing up when he's less than a year old simply because each time he stands he falls n hit his bum on d hard floor? U see, ds pastors in d cities av also at a time paid their dues by pastoring village churches, u won't expect ur junior to come handle ur organizations headquarters while u d manager is expected to function from a village. No one does that.


My personal opinion abt ds is dt people shd not become pastors simply becos they r jobless or because people feel de fit d description, no, bt instead de shd make sure de r called, also make sure ur calling is into full-time ministry. Personally, I av turned down atleast 3 people who feel my way of life..... suits d work of d ministry(including a pastor). But I know I av no such calling. If u can't stand d heat, mk sure u r not inside d kitchen.

Money: NONSENSE!
We have never lacked it and yet we have never prayed for it, we are just simply obeying God and He is backing up what He is asking us to do.
Awesome God.
This is the real assurance not Davido lyrics
The original David has spoken

Those days, people normally go to the house of the community juju priest to help them do a lot of things. Those people commanded so much respect that their wives practically do nothing . there are people who even willingly help them to fetch water, cut wood from the bush, some even bring their farm produce for them. But over time, their relevance began to fade as people realized that these priest were just using them for self gain. Today, nobody want to associate with them anymore. their office have not changed, but people realized that there is another way to talk to God. The men of God that came before this generation of pastors made the work a little easier for this present day pastors, because they were concerned about their reputation and the reputation of the God that sent them. On top of that, they were eager to created a good name, so that the people that will assume the mantle after they are gone will have a soft landing. But i am afraid that these present pastors will make life more difficult for the pastors that will come after them. A lot of them will rubbish the relevance of this job that it might just become the case of those juju priest i talked about earlier. Hmmmm. The way our pastor talk to their members, the arrogance, the see finish day even fear me. When they stand to address their congregation, its like talking to their slave. It's shocking. When these same pastors travel overseas and they are addressing a congregation of white people, they talk to those white people like human beings. But the once that are too arrogant or full of too much pride will look for somebody over there to pastor the place, because he knows u can't address those people like that. And our people are so quick to mix up when god is speaking and when the man in their pastor is speaking.

Please when will all this GO's start sending their own children to rural areas of the country to be the resident Pastor in those communities?

Instead of having them in the accounts department or in juicy pastoral positions abroad.

Kobojunkie:
[img][/img] So when God said it is by their fruits you will know who belongs to Him and who does not belong to Him, you are saying that Jesus Christ meant for us to judge whether a person belongs to Jesus Christ, or not, by such things as...

A. The amount of money the person has made
B. The amount of souls the person has supposedly won in the name of God
C. The size of the business or church of home the person owns....

I mean is this really what you believe Jesus Christ came to teach you even with all the parables that He used in doing so?

Is this really your understanding of the Kingdom of God and God's Law, Jesus Christ?

that B is the Koko .... Heaven rejoices when such happen

Do make u go open ur own church

YorubaKinging:
The end is near

Lying oyedepo at it again

We all know you sacked the pastors because of low income turn-in

But the time comes when all false prophets will be disgraced

By that time, thier yeye followers will be shouting "this is war against christians'

They won't know they are paying for thier crimes

I was shocked when one of their pastors told me he paid 200k as bribe to be posted to Kaduna and other paid more to be posted to Lagos, Rivers and fct...
It is what it is!!!

[quote author=oketikpo post=104003732][/quote][quote author=YorubaKinging post=103968155]The end is near

Lying oyedepo at it again

We all know you sacked the pastors because of low income turn-in

But the time comes when all false prophets will be disgraced

By that time, thier yeye followers will be shouting "this is war against christians'

They won't know they are paying for thier crimes



My brother, you are right, he is talking about not being fruitful, in what way? were they supposed to realize the money used in building those churches? he is talking about employing pastors; which means those pastors were just civil servants in the house of God and they were not called by God, is the bishop hunting for member ? let him be specific about not being fruitful, anyway, eternity will tell

kennyamusan:
that B is the Koko .... Heaven rejoices when such happen

Ok... so, where did Jesus Christ tell you that Heaven rejoices when you win a soul?

Here to read comments...


I'm sure God dey observe too


Awon weyrey gbogbo

Smh

Nauttyprof:


I have answered you. Not everyone is a Christian in the states you mentioned. I have also cited an example except if you are not honest enough to accept this truth.

In every so called Christian states there are still many who have not stepped into a church as they don't see any reason to acknowledge their Maker

U CITED NO EXAMPLE.

Over 99% of the places I listed are Christians.

Oga there are not many who haven't entered church before, Stop forming baseless premises to support ur false claims.







I REPEAT IT AGAIN, HOW DOES YOU AND OYEDEPO EXPECT PASTORS IN CHRISTIAN STATES TO DRAG CHRISTIANS IN CATHOLIC AND ANGLICAN + OTHER PENTECOSTALS TO LEAVE THEIR OWN CHURCH AND BECOME MEMEBRS OF WINNERS CHURCH.

rollywise:








You want go into their soul and know? You be surgeon?

Exactly my point.

Gambit23:


U CITED NO EXAMPLE.

Over 99% of the places I listed are Christians.

Oga there are not many who haven't entered church before, Stop forming baseless premises to support ur false claims.







I REPEAT IT AGAIN, HOW DOES YOU AND OYEDEPO EXPECT PASTORS IN CHRISTIAN STATES TO DRAG CHRISTIANS IN CATHOLIC AND ANGLICAN + OTHER PENTECOSTALS TO LEAVE THEIR OWN CHURCH AND BECOME MEMEBRS OF WINNERS CHURCH.

What example do you need again? Do you want names of people residing in the states. That you have many churches in a Christian state does not in any way suggest that everyone goes to church.

There is no dragging here, it is only happening in your head. Soul winning is not a church competition except that's what it means to you.

HedwigesMaduro:


Exactly my point.

Better go into the world and win souls for Christ

Church s now an organisation . Only blame the Nigeria bad government and the lazy youths who are looking for pastoral jobs

Nauttyprof:



What example do you need again? Do you want names of people residing in the states. That you have many churches in a Christian state does not in any way suggest that everyone goes to church.

There is no dragging here, it is only happening in your head. Soul winning is not a church competition except that's what it means to you.

Ur God oyedepo has turned soul winning into a competition.

IGBO land is 99.99% Christians, any attempt to start winning souls in a state with 99.99% Christian's means u are coming to drag memebrs to ur church so that u can start receiving more money.

Oyedepo wants money and nothing more. If those 40 pastors was making 1.5 million naira for him monthly, he will never ever sack dem.

Gambit23:


Ur God oyedepo has turned soul winning into a competition.

IGBO land is 99.99% Christians, any attempt to start winning souls in a state with 99.99% Christian's means u are coming to drag memebrs to ur church so that u can start receiving more money.

Oyedepo wants money and nothing more. If those 40 pastors was making 1.5 million naira for him monthly, he will never ever sack dem.

See reasoning. It is your hatred for the man that makes you talk and reason this way. Why fill yourself with so much hatred?

So you know I don't attend his church and I don't hold any G.O in high esteem above my God but one thing I know is this - the scriptures alone is my guide.

If you claim he wants money why not establish a church and see how easy it is to make the money most especially in a rural community.

Shalom!!

Nauttyprof:


See reasoning. It is your hatred for the man that makes you talk and reason this way. Why fill yourself with so much hatred?

So you know I don't attend his church and I don't hold any G.O in high esteem above my God but one thing I know is this - the scriptures alone is my guide.

If you claim he wants money why not establish a church and see how easy it is to make the money most especially in a rural community.

Shalom!!

Oyedepo is ur God.

Gambit23:


Oyedepo is ur God.

Just admit it. It pains you to see him succeed. You can't stop him so end the hatred.

Nauttyprof:


Just admit it. It pains you to see him succeed. You can't stop him so end the hatred.

Nah, U meant to say it pains u cuz in called the lying pastor ur God??

hello bro, morning, pls I sent u a pm,

hello bro, morning..pls I sent u a pm.

KaptainAfrika:
According to the Bible, Moral failings are the only reason to sack/remove a Pastor, but the Oyedepo Version 2021 now adds that a Pastor may be removed if the Church Growth Index (which he assures the blind that it has nothing to do with income) is poor.

Gambit23:


Nah, U meant to say it pains u cuz in called the lying pastor ur God??

Na wa o.... Why give yourself headache on this matter?

aswani:
Please when will all this GO's start sending their own children to rural areas of the country to be the resident Pastor in those communities?

Instead of having them in the accounts department or in juicy pastoral positions abroad.

LoL.... you will wait till they kingdom come....

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SexyBabe001:
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Okay Sir...

You believe the pastors but don't believe Oyedepo. What will Oyedepo gain in lying? He employed them and he fired them... So why should he lie?

i dont believe in pastors

lomprico:


nigger is running a biz, using God as a cover up.

You too run your own business and use God as a cover and let us see.
As the scripture said God is no respecter of any man.

olaeffect:

You too run your own business and use God as a cover and let us see.
As the scripture said God is no respecter of any man.

oaf

Kobojunkie:
Ok... so, where did Jesus Christ tell you that Heaven rejoices when you win a soul?

Asking this kind of a question as a Christian is not only irritating but illogical , senseless, baseless , immature and utterly stupid simultaneously. Hi read up Luke 15:7

kennyamusan:
Asking this kind of a question as a Christian is not only irritating but illogical , senseless, baseless , immature and utterly stupid simultaneously. Hi read up Luke 15:7

Rather, please read that verse in the context it comes in - Luke 15 vs 1 - 7 - and answer me this. Are you the Shepherd who searches for and finds His lost sheep?
Or are yourself a sheep - a worker sent by the Shepherd to cater to His sheep - John 10 vs 7 - 16?

Kobojunkie:
Rather, please read that verse in the context it comes in - Luke 15 vs 1 - 7 - and answer me this. Are you the Shepherd who searches for and finds His lost sheep?
Or are yourself a sheep - a worker sent by the Shepherd to cater to His sheep - John 10 vs 7 - 16?

Or are you the woman with the Piece of silver ? ����� Or the man with two sons ? ���� .This is another question you forgot to ask me Since you wants to take a portion of the bible and make a doctrine out of it , hahahahahahahahah