BRATISLAVA:




As a man what is your responsibility towards paying the bride price of your wife?

Since you don't pay for any lifetime service afterwards, except the tiny little bride price, what is your use except complaining as if your ancestors haven't been paying the bride price?

You lot can't afford those services separately, so pay the bride price and stop whining. After all, it's your fellow men who will collect it. You pay to marry, the services come free.

Have you checked the rate of marriage and divorce lately?
I should pay bride price so you can bring a bastard home and blame it on other men for cheating too….

Lashist:

Lets understand your foolishness together dear . Now i am man A in Lagos...there is man B in delta and man C in Osun and man D in Enugu. I don't know these 3 men at all but let's assume they cheat on their gfs or wives...so bcus they cheat and i dont, i should keep quiet and train another man's child when i find out bcus these other men are cheating ...madame go and see a doctor

Walahi Oversense dey press U!

AmazonTopaz:
First and foremost I don't support cheating and deception I can never support deception or paternity fraud but I wonder why some men are outraged over paternity fraud.

We live in a society or some of us grew up in a society that gave excuse or justified infidelity amongst men under the guise of "men are polygamous in nature"they forget that men can be used to refer to women too and that polygamous is a gender neutral word for men it is polygyny for women it is polyandry.

When you justify infidelity or adultery you reap paternity fraud because these married men sleep with married women who are wives of other men who are at the receiving end when it comes to paternity fraud.

You men cannot always eat your cake and have it you feel bad when cheated on and call women who commit adultery all sorts of names but hail men when they cheat on women what happened to what is good for the goose is good for the gander.Some people seem to forget that the cheating men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with people's wives and girlfriends too so maybe that shows that women are polygamous in nature and two can play a game.

You cannot be preaching morality and chastity on women while failing to hold yourselves to account as well it doesn't work that way because it is a small world afterall if boys are not taught morality, decency and chastity we will continue to hear tales of paternity fraud and infidelity.

As we try to shame and tell young girls not to follow married men let's not forget to tell young boys and married men to leave married women alone it is the same polygamous men that are sleeping with these women and another man is at the receiving end of this disaster men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with women

As for the married men and women depending on your vows if you promised to be faithful try to be faithful and stop cheating beautiful women and handsome men will never finish in this word try to stick to one be contented,committed and try to learn discipline.


I think we should ask men why they are outraged

A woman has 95% power to make sex happen. She decides whether to allow the man enter her or not. No matter the persuasion from a man, the woman has the final say about what will happen - TO MAKE THE SEX HAPPEN OR NOT. That is why we are outraged and blame you women squarely in issues of infidelity, paternity fraud etc.

Kobojunkie:
This isn't about the Bible days or our imaginings of it. This is about issues as it plagues the society we live in to this day.

2. You don't curb paternity fraud by doing DNA tests. Nigeria is known as "scam central" and nothing will stop fake paternity tests showing up soon on the market for all those interested to pay for.

A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable. Not until society begins to shame both the woman and the man with whom she had the affair with, will the trend begin to noticeably change for the better - that's kind of what the OP is trying to get you all to see here. But it keeps going over your heads. .

once again to the best of your knowledge you think, fornication and adultery started in our era, you must have missed God's commandment
If the best way to stop cheating is by criticizing & condemning it, i am curious why it hasnt stop because even before you and amazontopaz were born the society has being against it,did you not see what tega & boma went thru, like i said paternity fraud can be curbed but "CHEATING " can never stop whether anyone agree or not thats the truth.
Cheating btw man & woman as gone beyond what oral condemnation can stop, even law sanctions can not stop it. lets be realistic
Why you & other women are trying so hard to discredit nd badmouth DNA lab is what i don't get, can you @least make one reference to justify DNA labs as scam centre,
See, the only promotion DNA labs need is for nigerians to opt for it, there is enough bastard in our society that even DNA labs won't need to lie/fake anything.

AmazonTopaz:
I come online and 23 mentions


Why are you men still outraged lol,no time to respond to rubbish.

I stand by what I said if you want paternity fraud to end control your third legs and call your men to order

First of all,not only men are outraged...

Now you are talking...justify paternity fraud with your full chest.....stop going through corners...

What about men that don't engage in infidelity,should they not condemn paternity fraud ??should they not condemn it simply because some men do not close their third legs??does that make sense to you??....what if those set of cheats are not ready to listen to the good ones,does that mean the good ones should not condemn the paternity fraud??really??


On your writeup at the beginning of the thread ,you said you are not trying to justify paternity fraud... it was obvious you were lying....


Going by your analogy...then if a person steals,the thief should not be condemned because some other people are doing it or might have caused it.....so the other peolple who have stolen before should be blamed for the new thief.........OK ooooooo....na people like you make some men think that women have "fish brains"......

larryjonze:

once again to the best of your knowledge you think, fornication and adultery started in our era, you must have missed God's commandment
If the best way to stop cheating is by criticizing & condemning it, i am curious why it hasnt stop because even before you and amazontopaz were born the society has being against it,did you not see what tega & boma went thru, like i said paternity fraud can be curbed but "CHEATING " can never stop whether anyone agree or not thats the truth.
Cheating btw man & woman as gone beyond what oral condemnation can stop, even law sanctions can not stop it. lets be realistic
Why you & other women are trying so hard to discredit nd badmouth DNA lab is what i don't get, can you @least make one reference to justify DNA labs as scam centre,
See, the only promotion DNA labs need is for nigerians to opt for it, there is enough bastard in our society that even DNA labs won't need to lie/fake anything.

What in the world are you still arguing for?
Again, This isn't about the Bible days or our imaginings of it. This is about issues as it plagues the society we live in to this day.

2. You don't curb paternity fraud by doing DNA tests. Nigeria is known as "scam central" and nothing will stop fake paternity tests showing up soon on the market for all those interested to pay for.

A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable. Not until society begins to shame both the woman and the man with whom she had the affair with, will the trend begin to noticeably change for the better - that's kind of what the OP is trying to get you all to see here. But it keeps going over your heads. .

Yes your right you have a strong point

Kobojunkie:
The point is hold the man whom the woman had the affair with is should be held equally responsible for the paternity fraud crime.

If society would accord equal blame on the woman and the man, likely a married man, whose child the victim is made responsible, you will begin to see less of these crimes happening.

Kobojunkie:
What in the world are you still arguing for?
Again, This isn't about the Bible days or our imaginings of it. This is about issues as it plagues the society we live in to this day.

2. You don't curb paternity fraud by doing DNA tests. Nigeria is known as "scam central" and nothing will stop fake paternity tests showing up soon on the market for all those interested to pay for.

A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable. Not until society begins to shame both the woman and the man with whom she had the affair with, will the trend begin to noticeably change for the better - that's kind of what the OP is trying to get you all to see here. But it keeps going over your heads. .

women control sex and reproduction, strong shaming mechanism for women will prevent paternity fraud by making them more honourable, they reject thirsty men and wont initiate adultery, that is the best solution because we have shameless men who wont listen to anything and are very thirsty, they will want to rape and would be punished

Kobojunkie:
What in the world are you still arguing for?
Again, This isn't about the Bible days or our imaginings of it. This is about issues as it plagues the society we live in to this day.

2. You don't curb paternity fraud by doing DNA tests. Nigeria is known as "scam central" and nothing will stop fake paternity tests showing up soon on the market for all those interested to pay for.

A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable. Not until society begins to shame both the woman and the man with whom she had the affair with, will the trend begin to noticeably change for the better - that's kind of what the OP is trying to get you all to see here. But it keeps going over your heads. .

Doyin01 maybe you will be able to comprehend what he said since you all are trying to feign ignorance as if what I said was a lie

AmazonTopaz:

Doyin01 maybe you will be able to comprehend what he said since you all are trying to feign ignorance as if what I said was a lie

Doyin01, just know that women hate accountability and responsibility, they still want to maintain the reputation of innocence and weakness for the grievious crimes they commit, we all know women control access to sex and reproduction, no matter how thirsty a man is for sex, if a woman refuses it will not happen except he rapes and he would pay dearly, the solution to these issue is stronger shaming mechanism for women so they refuse thirsty men and dont initiate cheating themselves

AmazonTopaz:

Doyin01 maybe you will be able to comprehend what he said since you all are trying to feign ignorance as if what I said was a lie

Kobojunke:




A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the [middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable.

Pray tell,how do we make the man culpable without first detecting if the paternity fraud occurred or not??how will you make someone culpable without first finding out if the fraud happened??won't you bring out the evidence first before you can now hold those that are culpable or not??..if the fraud was not detected,how will you know who to hold or not??how will you know the guilty parties??or you will just sleep and wake up and know that someone is culpable??was that not the essence of the DNA test to detect paternity fraud and the parties involved can now take it up from there??


They should make the father of the child culpable,how will that happen if the paternity fraud is not even detected in the first place??

AmazonTopaz:


It is not my fault that your brain couldn't process the truth but instead process gibberish.

I never said cheating is okay, cheating is wrong on both sides if you settled down to read my comments you will see where I urged fidelity from both parties.

Hanty,stop supporting nonsense,am not here to trade words,did I just hear u say my brain couldn't process the truth,I think it's the other way round,it's ur brain that is not processing o,how would u justify that cheating is ok, because then men are promiscuous,I think ur personality and integrity needs to be questioned

AfroKnight:
You cannot possibly understand this cos no husband can deceive you into raising a child that is not yours. Even if your baby is switched at birth, your husband is also at loss.

There is no close comparison for that kind of fraud.

Perhaps I can compare it to buying government owned land from a fake agent and building on it with your hard earned money and giving it your time and sweat only to find out the real owner when they charge you to court for trespassing.

Then you lose access to that land and no compensation is made to you.

Then later you find out that government decided to use your house as a short let apartment instead of demolishing it. They are making profit off your sweat and there’s nothing you can do.

God bless you

Kobojunkie:
What in the world are you still arguing for?
Again, This isn't about the Bible days or our imaginings of it. This is about issues as it plagues the society we live in to this day.

2. You don't curb paternity fraud by doing DNA tests. Nigeria is known as "scam central" and nothing will stop fake paternity tests showing up soon on the market for all those interested to pay for

A better way to curb it is what the Op suggests, which is to make the man behind the child in the middle of the paternity fraud equally culpable. Not until society begins to shame both the woman and the man with whom she had the affair with, will the trend begin to noticeably change for the better - that's kind of what the OP is trying to get you all to see here. But it keeps going over your heads. .

more like BOT, however Paternity fraud as being in existence for over a decade, if you or your dillusional friends can't make a verifiable reference to one fake result i will advise you shutup.
You can't justify a point base on your own mental assumptions, why do DNA labs need to lie or issue fake reports, from the way ladies are jittering the market index seems favorable.
if i am an investor comment from cococandy and other ladies here is enough viability, my sympathy to men who marry such

AmazonTopaz:
First and foremost I don't support cheating and deception I can never support deception or paternity fraud but I wonder why some men are outraged over paternity fraud.

We live in a society or some of us grew up in a society that gave excuse or justified infidelity amongst men under the guise of "men are polygamous in nature"they forget that men can be used to refer to women too and that polygamous is a gender neutral word for men it is polygyny for women it is polyandry.

When you justify infidelity or adultery you reap paternity fraud because these married men sleep with married women who are wives of other men who are at the receiving end when it comes to paternity fraud.

You men cannot always eat your cake and have it you feel bad when cheated on and call women who commit adultery all sorts of names but hail men when they cheat on women what happened to what is good for the goose is good for the gander.Some people seem to forget that the cheating men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with people's wives and girlfriends too so maybe that shows that women are polygamous in nature and two can play a game.

You cannot be preaching morality and chastity on women while failing to hold yourselves to account as well it doesn't work that way because it is a small world afterall if boys are not taught morality, decency and chastity we will continue to hear tales of paternity fraud and infidelity.

As we try to shame and tell young girls not to follow married men let's not forget to tell young boys and married men to leave married women alone it is the same polygamous men that are sleeping with these women and another man is at the receiving end of this disaster men don't sleep with themselves they sleep with women

As for the married men and women depending on your vows if you promised to be faithful try to be faithful and stop cheating beautiful women and handsome men will never finish in this word try to stick to one be contented,committed and try to learn discipline.


I think we should ask men why they are outraged

Continue consoling yourself!

You only have 2 options:

1) Stay single and die alone.

2) Be with a man and he WILL cheat on you.

You can mock all you want to console yourself, but that is your destiny and nothing will change it!

doyin01:





Pray tell,how do we make the man culpable without first detecting if the paternity fraud occurred or not??how will you make someone culpable without first finding out if the fraud happened??won't you bring out the evidence first before you can now hold those that are culpable or not??..if the fraud was not detected,how will you know who to hold or not??how will you know the guilty parties??or you will just sleep and wake up and know that someone is culpable??was that not the essence of the DNA test to detect paternity fraud and the parties involved can now take it up from there??


They should make the father of the child culpable,how will that happen if the paternity fraud is not even detected in the first place??

That amazontopaz is one of the reason some people think females have fish brain and her thread is an affirmation like women hate accountability and responsibility, they always want to maintain the reputation of innocence and weakness even for the grievious crimes they commit, they want a man to held accountable for a woman's womb, like seriously do this female gender even have a brain at all no wonder amazon is a place in someone head

Lumig:

God bless you

Amen. Thanks

Gamesmart:


Continue consoling yourself!

You only have 2 options:

1) Stay single and die alone.

2) Be with a man and he WILL cheat on you.

You can mock all you want to console yourself, but that is your destiny and nothing will change it!

This clown succeeded in making me laugh .

Lol well-done.You are nothing but a comic relief and a loser, coming from someone whose destiny has already been closed and can never be opened misery sure loves company.

Why should I console myself when you are the one with the sad story crying under my mention LMAO.

AmazonTopaz:

This clown succeeded in making me laugh .

Lol well-done.You are nothing but a comic relief and a loser, coming from someone whose destiny has already been closed and can never be opened misery sure loves company.

Why should I console myself when you are the one with the sad story crying under my mention LMAO.

Continue deluding yourself.

I have given you your only two options.

Options are different from destiny. As you are obviously pathetic, your destiny and realistic option is the second one.

There is no other option for you, no matter how bitter you are about it!

So you can laugh all you want but you will still face your destiny and still end up a bitter soul as your husband spreads his seed outside and raise children out of wedlock with other women.

You are the loser in destiny!

Gamesmart:


[s]Continue deluding yourself.

I have given you your only two options.

Options are different from destiny. As you are obviously pathetic, your destiny and realistic option is the second one.

There is no other option for you, no matter how bitter you are about it!

So you can laugh all you want but you will still face your destiny and still end up a bitter soul as your husband spreads his seed outside and raise children out of wedlock with other women.

You are the loser in destiny![/s]

Lol I didn't bother reading it.

AmazonTopaz:

Lol I didn't bother reading it.

You don't need to.

Destiny is in escapable, just accept yours.

doyin01:

Pray tell,how do we make the man culpable without first detecting if the paternity fraud occurred or not??how will you make someone culpable without first finding out if the fraud happened??won't you bring out the evidence first before you can now hold those that are culpable or not??..if the fraud was not detected,how will you know who to hold or not??how will you know the guilty parties??or you will just sleep and wake up and know that someone is culpable??was that not the essence of the DNA test to detect paternity fraud and the parties involved can now take it up from there??

They should make the father of the child culpable,how will that happen if the paternity fraud is not even detected in the first place??

I am afraid the questions you ask do not make sense at all

Insteas imagine a crime has been committed against you it is paternity fraud. You are ready to prosecute or shame the women who perpetrated said crime. Rather than go after just the woman, the OP is suggesting you also go after and sue the man who is father of the child.... end of story.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid the questions you ask do not make sense at all

A crime is committed and it is paternity fraud. You are already to prosecute or shame, rather than go after just the woman, you also go after and sue the man who is father of the child.... end of story.

That is if the other man is aware of the paternity fraud...enjoy your day..

larryjonze:
more like BOT, however Paternity fraud as being in existence for over a decade, if you or your dillusional friends can't make a verifiable reference to one fake result i will advise you shutup.
You can't justify a point base on your own mental assumptions, why do DNA labs need to lie or issue fake reports, from the way ladies are jittering the market index seems favorable.
if i am an investor comment from cococandy and other ladies here is enough viability, my sympathy to men who marry such

Correction, paternity fraud has been in existence since the time of your ancestors. There are traditional laws in place in much of Nigeria today that guard the rights of the marriage in cases such as these. Many of you here bickering ignorantly about these things would be shocked to learn you are yourselves possible products of paternity fraud yet own fathers still chose to raise you.

Anyways, just wanted to at least correct your claim that it is only a decade old.

doyin01:
That is if the other man is aware of the paternity fraud...enjoy your day..

You find that out when you go after him.

But in the process you shame him and stigmatize others like him who operate under the illusion that they can hide away from the consequences of their illicit affairs. That's what the OP is trying to get you to see.

And it makes more sense than believing DNA tests are the cure all for issues such as these when it is not and cannot be that at all.

Kobojunkie:
You find that out when you go after him.

But in the process you shame him and stigmatize others like him who operate under the illusion that they can hide away from the consequences of their illicit affairs. That's what the OP is trying to get you to see.

And it makes more sense than believing DNA tests are the cure all for issues such as these when it is not and cannot be that at all.

i strictly believe that culture, religion and shaming mechanism were in place for women since it is them that determine who gets sex and born, i believe we should pick up from our fathers and tighten the stigma on women especially in these mordern age, they are fully responsible for biologically birthing bastards and should be kept in check with morality not the men because they need the permission of the women except in rape

kingxsamz:
I don't understand why this irrelevant post was created in the first place. What point are you trying to prove? Why shouldn't men be angry about paternity fraud? Is anyone justifying the fact that men cheat too?
So why are you bringing it up like you're trying to invalidate men's concern on the issue? Shey make dem no talk again? Are you sure you're okay?

You think you should ask men why they're outraged over the fact that they're being deceived to raise another man's child as their own?
you're actually daft.

the op is very daft like u said very very daft
what a very foolish question
we Yoruba have an adage that says
when a home is peaceful it's obvious the bastard in the house is not yet grown
I guess the op self can do paternity fraud
carry bastard sperm go house go give your husband
Women & lust 5&6

adoption is easy on the mind cause you know the "truth" but a curse is on bastards and they will likely ruin the family in the long run

who has ever understand woman (� fish brain) and big brother dis year really showed us some woman are deadly, put husband for house go bbhouse dey act Indecency with camera all
Woman is lust know that and be at peace
no woman no sorrow
their existence is our fall
Adam, David, Samson the strong, even Solomon the wise one they all fell to woman, we even heard of apostle ayo babalola

the only Good wife you can find is a praying wife who is sold out to Jesus

JESHAL:
I strictly believe that culture, religion and shaming mechanism were in place for women since it is them that determine who gets sex and born, i believe we should pick up from our fathers and tighten the stigma on women especially in these mordern age, they are fully responsible for biologically birthing bastards and should be kept in check with morality not the men because they need the permission of the women except in rape

Well, I am not the least bit surprised that you would prescribe a continuance of the same moribund solution from which the problems that are today resulted. Goodluck with that then!

Kobojunkie:
Well, I am not the least bit surprised that you would prescribe a continuance of the same moribund solution from which the problems that are today resulted. Goodluck with that then!

you do not want to accept it is fundamentally the woman's fault and responsibility since she determines who gets sex, my solution even if it is not perfect is still the most efficient method of reducing the occurence of paternity fraud, study mate guarding of species, holding men and women to the same moral standards is going to worsen the problem, both sexes evolutionarily are not equal with regards to their mating strategies , until there is a better alternative we stick with what way set by our ancestors, we can see how promiscious modern individuals are especially after equality of sexes as an ideology became acceptable after feminism

JESHAL:


you do not want to accept it is fundamentally the woman's fault and responsibility since she determines who gets sex, my solution even if it is not perfect is still the most efficient method of reducing the occurence of paternity fraud, study mate guarding of species, holding men and women to the same moral standards is going to worsen the problem, both sexes evolutionarily are not equal with regards to their mating strategies , until there is a better alternative we stick with what way set by our ancestors, we can see how promiscious modern individuals are especially after equality of sexes as an ideology became acceptable after feminism

Again, Well, I am not the least bit surprised that you would prescribe a continuance of the same moribund solution from which the problems that are today resulted. Goodluck with that then!