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LordReed:
Whatever you make it to be.

It unfortunately its so much more than an ordinarily 'Whatever you make it to be.'

LordReed:
This is irrelevant ...

Overarching purpose is germane

LordReed:
... What is relevant is what you can demonstrate to be true.

It is demonstrably true that the highest level and/or overarching purpose in life, is to be like God. Note, not be God, but be like God with respect to, have the same characteristics or qualities as God. Another way to put it, is, be similar to the Godhead's image and likeness.

LordReed:
Sounds very generic. Your god must lack imagination.

I have to disconcur with you because looking vividly at the human body, the evidence shows, a well crafted design, that's imaginatively done, take dopamine, testosterone, DNA or even adrenaline to start with, the pupil of an eye or any other delicate, inner parts of the body. Have you ever tried the double inhale and one exhale, to calm your mind and restore your body's internal balance before? The body truly is fearfully and wonderfully made by an imaginative God responsible for that. What of the design of sleep aka rest or sabbath, as it were?

LordReed:
Go ahead and show it.

I have the good fortune of being a building site, and in that respect, I am an unfinished project that is still being added to and/or developed, hence a work in progress . So that's the way to show how I've made successes of the mentioned plans. I am thriving in fulfilling my purpose in life and all those plans.

Hismasterpiece:
God created beings capable of sinning, yes. But don't forget that He created them capable of doing good too.

God determines what is sin, yes, and why wouldn't He? What parent doen't give rules to their children to follow?

God put them in a condition that gave them the opportunity, yes. But He warned them not to do it and even told them of the consequences of doing it. The devil told them to do it, so God is not the enemy, the devil is. Besides, that is the beauty of freewill. Freewill is not really freewill unless the person given freewill can use his freewill against the one who gave it to him.

Remember God gave Adam dominion over the earth.... He literally made Him the god of this world. And with Adam being in charge of this world, it only makes sense that God would give him the freewill to choose how the world He gave him to rule over will be.

God is not like man. He doesn't make robots. When man makes something he makes it to do a particular thing and if it doesn't do it, he throws it away. But God is not like that. Although God has made all men accountable to Him, He has given all the freewill to choose what course their lives will take.

God did know that Adam and Eve would indeed sin. He already knew that and acted ahead of them. The Bible says that Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world, meaning that God already knew there would be a problem and made a solution.

He knew that they would sin and reject Him, but still, that's the beauty of freewill. They could choose to obey or disobey but whichever choice they made, the consequences would be theirs to bear.

Well impressively put together to a tee, so much, I couldnt resist not to like the post

God is omniscient. God is all-knowing, all-wise, all-seeing. Adam and Eve were meant to pick up the fruit off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil to eat. Eating the fruit, will give the opportunity for God to deal with the issue of sin that already was in the background.

The creation of man was to solve two situational problems

LordReed:
LoL! I rest my case.

If tbh, you had no case to rest. You missed the boat to get you across to the other side, Hismasterpiece is at

BassReeves:
Well impressively put together to a tee, so much, I couldnt resist not to like the post

God is omniscient. God is all-knowing, all-wise, all-seeing. Adam and Eve were meant to pick up the fruit off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil to eat. Eating the fruit, will give the opportunity for God to deal with the issue of sin that already was in the background.

The creation of man was to solve two situational problems

If tbh, you had no case to rest. You missed the boat to get you across to the other side, Hismasterpiece is at

You lack understanding of the discussion so you'll obviously misyarn.

Hismasterpiece:
Remember God gave Adam dominion over the earth....

He literally made Him the god of this world. And with Adam being in charge of this world, it only makes sense that God would give him the freewill to choose how the world He gave him to rule over will be.

budaatum:
Remember? Or do you mean, allow our brain to be washed by you?

I beg your pardon. In which book did you read that God gave naked ignorant enslaved Adam "dominion over the earth"?

Genesis 1:26
'Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”

Genesis 2:25
'And the man and his wife were both naked
and were not ashamed or embarrassed.'

On a first level, Adam was not naked, ignorant and enslaved enough not to be given the responsibility (i.e. dominion) to manage the earth. Adam was not naked, ignorant and enslaved enough not to be trusted with naming the taxonomy of animals etc

On a second level, naked in the bible is polysemous. Now with that preceded proposal in the mind, the näkedness you referenced in your post, particularly symbolises innocence, purity, simplicity, lacking corruption.

On another level, the same näkedness, you referenced in your post, also symbolised Adam and Eve's acts, indicating that, whether Adam and Eve's actions, be a good or a bad act, they are not hidden from God. What does this means? It means that, Adam and Eve were aware that, they have as much privacy, as a goldfish, living in a glass bowl, but didnt mind, they weren't ashamed or embarrassed of this fact.

There is more on näkedness or the state of being naked to share or talk about, but doing so will be out of the thread's scope or even might appear as information overload

LordReed:
You lack understanding of the discussion so you'll obviously misyarn.

I respectfully disconcur with your premise because I am aware that the discussion is about 'Questions About Hell' which is the reason why I made sure to let OP, (i.e. Hismasterpiece) know that, he is mixing up hell aka hades aka Sheol aka realm of the dead with the Lake of Fire

BassReeves:
It unfortunately its so much more than an ordinarily 'Whatever you make it to be.'

Overarching purpose is germane

It is demonstrably true that the highest level and/or overarching purpose in life, is to be like God. Note, not be God, but be like God with respect to, have the same characteristics or qualities as God. Another way to put it, is, be similar to the Godhead's image and likeness.

Then demonstrate that it is true.

I have to disconcur with you because looking vividly at the human body, the evidence shows, a well crafted design, that's imaginatively done, take dopamine, testosterone, DNA or even adrenaline to start with, the pupil of an eye or any other delicate, inner parts of the body. Have you ever tried the double inhale and one exhale, to calm your mind and restore your body's internal balance before? The body truly is fearfully and wonderfully made by an imaginative God responsible for that. What of the design of sleep aka rest or sabbath, as it were?

The same apparent design he used for other creatures that you don't believe have an overarching purpose. Shows a severe lack of imagination.

I have the good fortune of being a building site, and in that respect, I am an unfinished project that is still being added to and/or developed, hence a work in progress . So that's the way to show how I've made successes of the mentioned plans. I am thriving in fulfilling my purpose in life and all those plans.

Once again you speak in general terms, can you be specific?

BassReeves:
I respectfully disconcur with your premise because I am aware that the discussion is about 'Questions About Hell' which is the reason why I made sure to let OP, (i.e. Hismasterpiece) know that, he is mixing up hell aka hades aka Sheol aka realm of the dead with the Lake of Fire

You are mistaken, the conversation was about believers showing their god is a terrible concept.

Accept my apology for not discussing Adam and Eve with you in this thread since we already discussed it in this thread, in this thread, and in this thread.

BassReeves:
Obtaining money with means of threat to inflicting harm, if the victim doesnt 'co-operate' is not a behaviour to applaud. The drug addict is dysfunctional

This is how you confuse yourself, by setting up a straw argument then arguing with yourself. You judge the morality of a goal before accepting it is a goal, as if someone has preached the gospel of drug addiction to you.

Do note that I am not applauding nor advocating nor am I in any way proposing any one should tie one end of a rope around one's neck and the other end to a bridge, Bass, but if one were to tie one end of a rope around one's neck and the other end to a bridge and jump off and one's neck snapped and one died, skewed or applaud or not, one's goal, to commit suicide, would have been accomplished.

BassReeves:
Genesis 1:26
'Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”

Genesis 2:25
'And the man and his wife were both naked
and were not ashamed or embarrassed.'

On a first level, Adam was not naked, ignorant and enslaved enough not to be given the responsibility (i.e. dominion) to manage the earth. Adam was not naked, ignorant and enslaved enough not to be trusted with naming the taxonomy of animals etc

On a second level, naked in the bible is polysemous. Now with that preceded proposal in the mind, the näkedness you referenced in your post, particularly symbolises innocence, purity, simplicity, lacking corruption.

On another level, the same näkedness, you referenced in your post, also symbolised Adam and Eve's acts, indicating that, whether Adam and Eve's actions, be a good or a bad act, they are not hidden from God. What does this means? It means that, Adam and Eve were aware that, they have as much privacy, as a goldfish, living in a glass bowl, but didnt mind, they weren't ashamed or embarrassed of this fact.

There is more on näkedness or the state of being naked to share or talk about, but doing so will be out of the thread's scope or even might appear as information overload

How is it that the unclothedness of Adam is all you overloaded on from the following?1

budaatum:
In which book did you read that God gave naked ignorant enslaved Adam "dominion over the earth"?

A strawman, Bass, is imprisoned in a peanut butter jar.

LordReed:
Then demonstrate that it is true.

What exactly and specifically do you want demonstrate that it is true

LordReed:
The same apparent design he used for other creatures that you don't believe have an overarching purpose. Shows a severe lack of imagination.

Everything created are designed with specific and overarching purposes.

LordReed:
Once again you speak in general terms, can you be specific?

The highest level and/or overarching purpose in life for a human being, is to be like God. Note, not be God, but, be like God, with respect to, have the same characteristics and/or qualities that God has. Another way to put it, is, without being identical, have a resemblance in character and/or quality, to the Godhead's. Specifically speaking be in the image and likeness of the Godhead.

BassReeves:
What exactly and specifically do you want demonstrate that it is true

That there is an overarching purpose.

Everything created are designed with specific and overarching purposes.

You said if doesn't have conscience then it doesn't have purpose. Even if we go on with your new stance your god still lacks imagination because he gave the same design to different things with different purposes.

The highest level and/or overarching purpose in life for a human being, is to be like God. Note, not be God, but, be like God, with respect to, have the same characteristics and/or qualities that God has. Another way to put it, is, without being identical, have a resemblance in character and/or quality, to the Godhead's. Specifically speaking be in the image and likeness of the Godhead.

This is not specific. Can you state a specific achievement that shows you are meeting up to this purpose as you call it.

LordReed:
That there is an overarching purpose.

You said if doesn't have conscience then it doesn't have purpose.

I completely did not say anything blatantly like that, so I love to see where I typed anything of the sort. Also love to see the context, build up to and reason why or how I might have typed.

LordReed:
Even if we go on with your new stance your god still lacks imagination because he gave the same design to different things with different purposes.

I have been consistent with needing to make or have any new stances. Remember we discussing in relation to human beings, until you tried to rope in other life forms

LordReed:
This is not specific. Can you state a specific achievement that shows you are meeting up to this purpose as you call it.

The first is acknowledging the existence of a Love, Supreme, Intelligent, Influential, Creative, Compassionate, Merciful, Patient, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Incorporeal Self Existing Being

BassReeves:
I completely did not say anything blatantly like that, so I love to see where I typed anything of the sort. Also love to see the context, build up to and reason why or how I might have typed.

Well you didn't I may have misunderstood what you wrote.

I have been consistent with needing to make or have any new stances. Remember we discussing in relation to human beings, until you tried to rope in other life forms

Your god created other animals with other purposes but gave you all the same design, shows a lack of imagination is all I am saying.

The first is acknowledging the existence of a Love, Supreme, Intelligent, Influential, Creative, Compassionate, Merciful, Patient, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Incorporeal Self Existing Being

LMAO! I don't even know what to say to this. Ok I think I know now and its: good luck with that, I don't acknowledge such a being.

budaatum:
Accept my apology for not discussing Adam and Eve with you in this thread since we already discussed it in this thread, in this thread, and in this thread.

I didnt solicit discussing Adam and Eve with you on this thread

budaatum:
[s]This is how you confuse yourself, by setting up a straw argument then arguing with yourself.[/s]

Well isn’t this, the tent calling the pyramid, pointy. Smh,

budaatum:
You judge the morality of a goal before accepting it is a goal, as if someone has preached the gospel of drug addiction to you.

I make no apologies for judging according to proper, correctly and righteous judgment.

The incident, when reported objectively, its plain to see that, the plan concocted for robbing an innocent bystander or passer-by was to achieve a goal of criminally obtained money. The prospect of money was enough motivation to go find a victim to mug

budaatum:
Do note that I am not applauding nor advocating nor am I in any way proposing any one should tie one end of a rope around one's neck and the other end to a bridge, Bass, but if one were to tie one end of a rope around one's neck and the other end to a bridge and jump off and one's neck snapped and one died, skewed or applaud or not, one's goal, to commit suicide, would have been accomplished.

Since we're all different and we all like to do different things, though, I'll say, to each their own. Everyone has the right to have his or her own personal preferences and choices. Everyone is entitled to his or her own preferences.

I'll in addition, say, may we not become overwhelmed by the storms of life and/or ravages of times, to the extent, to tip over and top oneself by committing suicide

budaatum:
Remember? Or do you mean, allow our brain to be washed by you?

I beg your pardon. In which book did you read that God gave naked ignorant enslaved Adam "dominion over the earth"?

BassReeves:
Genesis 1:26
'Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”

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budaatum:
How is it that the näkedness of Adam is all you overloaded on from the following?1

A strawman, Bass, is imprisoned in a peanut butter jar.

If you had well read the response, you would have noticed that, it was after sharing the '... let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) ... over the entire earth' God comment found in Genesis 1:26, that I swiftly moved on, to shed some light on how näkedness is polysemous.

You architected and constructed the straw man, not me. I simply exposed the indictment of your '... naked ignorant enslaved Adam ...' straw man

LordReed:
Well you didn't I may have misunderstood what you wrote.

I second that you misunderstood what I wrote

LordReed:
Your god created other animals with other purposes but gave you all the same design, shows a lack of imagination is all I am saying.

This comment, on multiple leaping levels, is fundamentally flawed

You still havent got your head round the disparity between purposes and overarching purpose

LordReed:
LMAO! I don't even know what to say to this.

A problem shared is a problem halved. A problem discussed, is a problem sussed

LordReed:
Ok I think I know now and its:
good luck with that ...

I have what's better, superior and more powerful than 'good luck'

LordReed:
... I don't acknowledge such a being.

What are your reasons for not accepting the existence of a Supernatural Being?
What are your reasons for not admitting the truth of the existence of such Supernatural Being?

BassReeves:
This comment, on multiple leaping levels, is fundamentally flawed

You still havent got your head round the disparity between purposes and overarching purpose

How does that solve the problem? You state that a god created you with an overarching purpose that is different from the overarching purpose of other animals and I point out that he gives you all the same design, a sign your god lacks imagination. Stating that overarching purpose is different from purpose makes no difference to the statement.

I have what's better, superior and more powerful than 'good luck'

Well then good for you.

What are your reasons for not accepting the existence of a Supernatural Being?
What are your reasons for not admitting the truth of the existence of such Supernatural Being?

I have not been presented with the truth of the existence of such a being.

BassReeves:

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If you had well read the response, you would have noticed that, it was after sharing the '... let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) ... over the entire earth' God comment found in Genesis 1:26, that I swiftly moved on, to shed some light on how näkedness is polysemous.

You merely quoted Bible Bass, and quickly got naked!

See for yourself !

BassReeves:
Genesis 1:26
'Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”

Genesis 2:25
'And the man and his wife were both naked
and were not ashamed or embarrassed.'

On a first level, Adam was not naked, ignorant and enslaved ........

BassReeves:
You architected and constructed the straw man, not me. I simply exposed the indictment of your '... naked ignorant enslaved Adam ...' straw man

buda is guilty as charged. My question was not for you but I knew you'd grab the straw as you've done.

Kindly see the question revised for you.

budaatum:
In which book did you read that God gave Adam "dominion over the earth"?

LordReed:
How does that solve the problem?

Please what problem to be solved is this?

LordReed:
You state that a god created you with an overarching purpose that is different from the overarching purpose of other animals and I point out that he gives you all the same design, a sign your god lacks imagination. Stating that overarching purpose is different from purpose makes no difference to the statement.

You're conflating two different issues here. All things arent given the same design, All things also dont have the same purposes

In the midst of purposes, there is an exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life for a human being,

LordReed:
Well then good for you.

It goes without saying that, its good for me

LordReed:
I have not been presented with the truth of the existence of such a being.

Absence of not presenting you with the truth of the existence of such a Being, is not evidence of absence of the existence of such Being.

BassReeves:
You are mixing up hell aka hades aka Sheol aka realm of the dead with the Lake of Fire

Consider this, death, is not a physical but it will cease to exist because it will along with souls be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical Lake of Fire

Now if anything, like souls and death are destroyed, how possible or capable are souls and death able to suffer forever when they already have been brought to the end of their existence by burning in Lake of Fire?

Lol.. what are you talking about?

budaatum:
You merely quoted Bible Bass, and quickly got naked!

See for yourself !

I had to merely quote bible because ordinarily presenting Genesis 1:26, made it an open-and-shut case, with dominion underlined for emphasis.

There was no need to belabour your question, that presenting Genesis 1:26 easily solved because of how the obvious is very clear in it

budaatum:
buda is guilty as charged.

So long dont make a habit of it. We good

budaatum:
My question was not for you but I knew you'd grab the straw as you've done.

Things I do for kingdom's sake

budaatum:
Kindly see the question revised for you.

The book in which you read, that God gave Adam 'dominion over the earth' is the bible, and Genesis 1:26 specifically, is where the book, reads that, God gave Adam 'dominion over the earth'

Hismasterpiece:
Lol ...

Nothing shows a man’s character more than what he laughs at

Hismasterpiece:
... what are you talking about?

What exactly are you laughing out loud about?

By the way, I am waiting for your responses, though, to:
Consider this, death, is not a physical but it will cease to exist because it will along with souls be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical Lake of Fire

Now if anything, like souls and death are destroyed, how possible or capable, are souls and death, able to suffer forever, when they already have been brought to the end of their existence by burning in Lake of Fire?

BassReeves:
Please what problem to be solved is this?

You're conflating two different issues here. All things arent given the same design, All things also dont have the same purposes

In the midst of purposes, there is an exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life for a human being,

Well you talked about DNA, eyes, delicate inner parts and so on, all of the things other animals with different purposes have. Your god is so unimaginative he just reused the same design in creatures with different purposes. Telling me that purpose and overarching purpose are different doesn't do anything to dispel your god's unimaginativeness.

Absence of not presenting you with the truth of the existence of such a Being, is not evidence of absence of the existence of such Being.

The absence means I have no reason to believe such a being exists.

BassReeves:
The book in which you read, that God gave Adam 'dominion over the earth' is the bible, and Genesis 1:26 specifically, is where the book, reads that, God gave Adam 'dominion over the earth'

Bass, please see my own Genesis 1:26-27. No mention of any Adam there.

Show me the Adam in your own Genesis that God gave 'dominion over the earth' please.

BassReeves:
Nothing shows a man’s character more than what he laughs at

What exactly are you laughing out loud about?

By the way, I am waiting for your responses, though, to:
Consider this, death, is not a physical but it will cease to exist because it will along with souls be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical Lake of Fire

Now if anything, like souls and death are destroyed, how possible or capable, are souls and death, able to suffer forever, when they already have been brought to the end of their existence by burning in Lake of Fire?

Lol... your grammar is confusing me..

How can you 'figuratively' throw somebody in a physical and tangible place? What scripture do you have to support the stance that the lake of fire or hell or sheol are figurative? When did either Jesus or paul or any apostle say that those places aren't actual locations?

Where does scripture say that the spirit can die? What on earth are you talking about guy?

budaatum:
Bass, please see my own Genesis 1:26-27. No mention of any Adam there.

Show me the Adam in your own Genesis that God gave 'dominion over the earth' please

Genesis 1:26-28
'26Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness];
and let them have complete authority (i.e. dominion) over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle,
and over the entire earth, and over everything that creeps and crawls on the earth.”
27So God created man in His own image, in the image and likeness of God He created him; male and female He created them.
28And God blessed them [granting them certain authority] and said to them,
“Be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, and subjugate it [putting it under your power];
and rule over (dominate) the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and every living thing that moves upon the earth.”

Beloved at your age, you should know that Bible translation versions are not God inspired. OK?

You see, wherever, in all the English translated bibles, you see 'man' mentioned, it is translated from the Hebrew word 'אָדָ֛ם', that means human beings, aka mankind.

So, essentially, Adam means man, means, a human being. Often, you will see Adam and man interchangeably used for each other. I have pasted a screenshot below for you to watch and/or gnaw on

Its true that your Genesis 1:26-27 bible translated version has no mention of any Adam there, but if you should get hold of a Hebrew bible, you'll find out that it has Adam mentioned in it, as opposed, the English word, man, lol.

LordReed:
Well you talked about DNA, eyes, delicate inner parts and so on, all of the things other animals with different purposes have.

LordReed, beloved, iron sharpens iron and so the reason why I can say that I clearly am enjoying rubbing minds with you

LordReed:
Your god is so unimaginative he just reused the same design in creatures with different purposes. Telling me that purpose and overarching purpose are different doesn't do anything to dispel your god's unimaginativeness.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5g2UZr5RGgg/maxresdefault.jpg

Please tell from the above picture:
1. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at the dung beetle have a similar physical design, to focus at the least and obvious?
2. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at it have the same exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life?

LordReed:
The absence means I have no reason to believe such a being exists.

Do you have evidence to believe that I exist?
Give me your evidences, of your reasons to believe that a human being such I exists

PS: https://www.youtube.com/c/AndrewHubermanLab/featured
Check out interesting stuff discussing the varied designs of a Creative Supernatural Being from Huberman Lab Channel link above hosted by Dr. Andrew Huberman.

Hismasterpiece:
Lol... your grammar is confusing me..

Confusion is the first step to clarity. It is good that the grammar, though not meant to, is confusing you, because if you weren't confused, it means you hadn't paid attention

Confusion, on one hand, is a word, we use for a topic and/or subject matter, which is not yet understood. On another hand, confusion is very important for us, as it gives us time to reflect that topic and/or subject matter, which is not yet understood.

Hismasterpiece:
How can you 'figuratively' throw somebody in a physical and tangible place?

How does it figuratively rain cats and dogs?

Hismasterpiece:
What scripture do you have to support the stance that the lake of fire or hell or sheol are figurative? When did either Jesus or paul or any apostle say that those places aren't actual locations?

Until Yahshua Ha Mashiah's aka Jesus Christ', our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, clarity in the New Testament, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead

Hismasterpiece, we have verses in Old Testament (e.g. Psalm 9:17 et cetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, in the New Testament, who brought things into a better perspective for us, when He shared, the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side.

Now, watch this Hismasterpiece, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man, that has some element of truth in the story

Hismasterpiece:
Where does scripture say that the spirit can die?

At the point of death, there and then, you draw your last breath, after your last inhalation, the breath aka spirit, aka ruach, returns back to its Owner. Your body returns to the ground as dust, while your soul travels to a departure lounge, stay there, awaiting boarding flight to the Judgment Day destination

It is the soul that sinners that'll die. I did earlier advanced you the scripture about the One capable of destroying the soul, didnt I?

Hismasterpiece:
What on earth are you talking about guy?

Talking off subject matters, you are yet to understand

BassReeves:
LordReed, beloved, iron sharpens iron and so the reason why I can say that I clearly am enjoying rubbing minds with you

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5g2UZr5RGgg/maxresdefault.jpg

Please tell from the above picture:
1. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at the dung beetle have a similar physical design, to focus at the least and obvious?
2. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at it have the same exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life?

You pointed out eyes, DNA and delicate inner parts all of which the beetle has.

Do you have evidence to believe that I exist?
Give me your evidences, of your reasons to believe that a human being such I exists

PS: https://www.youtube.com/c/AndrewHubermanLab/featured
Check out interesting stuff discussing the varied designs of a Creative Supernatural Being from Huberman Lab Channel link above hosted by Dr. Andrew Huberman.

I am having a conversation with you is the evidence that you exist. At this time no other thing or being aside from humans can converse in the manner we are conversing.

BassReeves:
Confusion is the first step to clarity. It is good that the grammar, though not meant to, is confusing you, because if you weren't confused, it means you hadn't paid attention

Confusion, on one hand, is a word, we use for a topic and/or subject matter, which is not yet understood. On another hand, confusion is very important for us, as it gives us time to reflect that topic and/or subject matter, which is not yet understood.

Confusion is an indecisive state of mind where you feel confused among so many choices. What to do, which way to choose, what is right, what is wrong? That constant struggle of mind keeps haunting us many times

How does it figuratively rain cats and dogs?

Until Yahshua Ha Mashiah's aka Jesus Christ', our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, clarity in the New Testament, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead

Hismasterpiece, we have verses in Old Testament (e.g. Psalm 9:17 et cetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, in the New Testament, who brought things into a better perspective for us, when He shared, the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side.

Now, watch this Hismasterpiece, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man, that has some element of truth in the story

At the point of death, there and then, you draw your last breath, after your last inhalation, the breath aka spirit, aka ruach, returns back to its Owner. Your body returns to the ground as dust, while your soul travels to a departure lounge, stay there, awaiting boarding flight to the Judgment Day destination

It is the soul that sinners that'll die. I did earlier advanced you the scripture about the One capable of destroying the soul, didnt I?

Talking off subject matters, you are yet to understand

Lol

Guy you're weird.

Anyways,

When Jesus said God is capable of destroting souls in hell He didn't meant destroy in the same way that we would mean it. God's idea of destruction and ours aren't the same.

For example, Hebrews 2:14 says, 'Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil'

Tell me something, has the devil ceased to exist? But the scriptures say that Jesus has destroyed him.

BassReeves:
Its true that your Genesis 1:26-27 bible translated version has no mention of any Adam there, but if you should get hold of a Hebrew bible, you'll find out that it has Adam mentioned in it, as opposed, the English word, man, lol.

So, according to you, the humankind that "The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat[d] of it you shall surely die.”

Is the same humankind that "God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food".

In your Hebrew, does it also claim the Garden of Eden is the earth?

Or/and why did Genesis 2 God downgrade the food and the task given to Genesis 1 humankind?

LordReed:
You pointed out eyes, DNA and delicate inner parts all of which the beetle has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zskz-iZcVyY

Count your blessings, that you dont have to kung fu fight over a ball of shít like the two dung beetles in the above clip had to. Do you hear how evidential it is that the dung beetles were imaginatively designed and created with their own personal purpose in mind. The Egyptian were that so mystified and enthralled by the dung beetle, they worshipped it. The irony, worshipping a creature, worshipped a creation, but not the Creator

What I pointed out is significantly more than this your conservative and truncated version of what I mentioned

LordReed:
I am having a conversation with you is the evidence that you exist.

You've had similar informal exchanges with the Godhead, so why havent you taken those heart-to-heart moments with the Godhead too, as evidence that God exist?

LordReed:
At this time no other thing or being aside from humans can converse in the manner we are conversing.

Taking all things into consideration you equally could be conversing with an AI.