Magnoliaa:


Okay. Thank youu.

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Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

Unconditional Love is the highest form of love you can ever give anyone.
Your Flaws, Financial or physical attributes won't even matter to the person.

Hathor5:


So you can also love your wife when she cheats? Or is faithfulness a condition?

What does Jesus say about adultery in marriage? Go and find out first before asking me stupid question?

Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

Showing up the best you can is an ingredient of unconditional love. It's basically saying to you that marriage isn't always going to be peaches and roses. There will be thorns as well. So make plans for those sort of times too.

Kobojunkie:
Yet the same Jesus Christ said your marriages are of this world and not of His Kingdom in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36
Stop trying to use Jesus Christ as cover for what you pretend is of Him.

That passage has deep spiritual meanings. He was just trying to say majority of the people of the world are deeply concerned with marriage at the expense of the kingdom of God.

What God wants is for us to seek his kingdom first then we can go ahead to do all other necessary things because it was God in the first place that instituted marriage.

Kobojunkie:
I don't follow!

Again, what I am saying is that what Paul said is not what Jesus Christ said. So, to suggest then that Paul's words are Jesus Christ's own Words is wrong.

What Jesus Christ commanded was to all of His disciples (individuals, Eunuchs, husbands and wives included). However, Paul's extraction suggests a special case for husbands, where Jesus Christ never said or taught such to begin with.

The same love that Jesus Christ taught should exist between a disciple and another disciple is the exact same love that should exist between a husband/wife and spouse...no difference whatsoever. So in the same exact way Jesus Christ taught His disciples to submit to each other in Him is the very same way a husband is to submit to wife and wife submit to husband. The only Lord or ruler over them all is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone.

Absolutely! How it should.

We must submit to one another. I fear to break it to you that there's a special kind of flow between a husband and a wife which must confirm the 'headship' of the husband in the Christian life.

How the husband choose to manage this 'headship' will tell if he's a Christian or not.

You might want to change your perspective about Paul and Christ used him to spread His Gospel of truth.

Paul's function among the disciples and the gentiles.

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.

16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

Acts 9:15‭-‬16 NIV

He was a man of spirit and obviously saying things that has been revealed to him.

He was a son of God and led by the spirit.

13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.

15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

John 16:13‭-‬15 NIV

Same with other apostles.

Marriage is was created by God

Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

All I care to know is the name of the series. Nothing concerns me with your topic.

DeRichard:
That passage has deep spiritual meanings. He was just trying to say majority of the people of the world are deeply concerned with marriage at the expense of the kingdom of God.

What God wants is for us to seek his kingdom first then we can go ahead to do all other necessary things because it was God in the first place that instituted marriage.

So what you are implying here is that Jesus Christ, God's Word, did not in fact mean what He said there in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 , which is that your marriages belong in this world and are not of the Kingdom of God?

Seek His Kingdom first and then you can go ahead and do all other things or have Him add all other things to you?

pocohantas:


Some people believe they should just be loved the way they are. With their good and bad. Even when they can make conscious efforts to change, they refuse to. They call it self-love. Some compromises are healthy. He is not asking you to go from dark skin to fair skin, he is only asking you reduce the salt you put in food. You na say the man that loves you would enjoy your food like that. You want to damage his liver?

This has to be the most sensible comment on the subject matter.

Reptyle:


Showing up the best you can is an ingredient of unconditional love. It's basically saying to you that marriage isn't always going to be peaches and roses. There will be thorns as well. So make plans for those sort of times too.

Can you forgive all kinds of "thorns" and still love your spouse?

Spectaclesawe25:

Know this and know peace.
Otherwise heartbreak is sure in marriage.
For men, you can't get loyalty and honour from your wife if you don't secure her financially, securing her financially is only a function of her own expectation and need at any time T, as a woman you can't get to feel secure if you don't trust and believe in your man, and also help him to win in his little battles. These qualities from both parties aren't even at 50% in most homes. Forget love. True commitment, trust and believe is what grows a home, love comes after.

I understand.

bezimo:


What does Jesus say about adultery in marriage? Go and find out first before asking me stupid question?

Whatever Jesus says. If you can't tolerate or forgive adultery then your love is not unconditional. Simples.

Ayo081:

Absolutely! How it should.
We must submit to one another. I fear to break it to you that there's a special kind of flow between a husband and a wife which must confirm the 'headship' of the husband in the Christian life.

How the husband choose to manage this 'headship' will tell if he's a Christian or not.
You might want to change your perspective about Paul and Christ used him to spread His Gospel of truth.
Paul's function among the disciples and the gentiles.
He was a man of spirit and obviously saying things that has been revealed to him.
He was a son of God and led by the spirit.
Same with other apostles.
Marriage is was created by God

There is no special flow between a husband and a wife in Jesus Christ and no special headship except that which came by way of the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 from which all those who are in Jesus Christ have been redeemed from. The only Head over each and every one who is a disciple - those who have been redeemed from that very curse - is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone.
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Kobojunkie:
Again, what I am saying is that what Paul said is not what Jesus Christ said. So, to suggest then that Paul's words are Jesus Christ's own Words is wrong.

Jesus Christ's commandment is given to all of His disciples (individuals, Eunuchs, husbands and wives included). However, Paul's extraction suggests a special case for husbands, where Jesus Christ never taught of such to begin with.

The same love Jesus Christ taught should exist between a disciple and another disciple is the exact same love that should exist between a husband/wife and spouse...He, Jesus Christ, made no such distinction as Paul attempts to make in his epistle.
Basically, Jesus Christ taught His disciples to submit to each other in Him, this regardless of marital status. Meaning the same way a disciple submits to another disciple is the same way a man is to submit to his wife and vice versa, this where Jesus Christ alone is Lord over each and everyone who belongs to Him - whether male or female.

Kobojunkie:
So what you are implying here is that Jesus Christ, God's Word, did not in fact mean what He said there in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 , which is that your marriages belong in this world and are not of the Kingdom of God?

Seek His Kingdom first and then you can go ahead and do all other things or have Him add all other things to you?

If you read Matthew 6:25-33 Jesus talked about the fact that we seek what we'll eat and wear before seeking the kingdom of God and he emphasized that the kingdom of God should come first and every other thing shall be added. It's just a way of saying after we seek the kingdom of God first we can then seek other good things of life which will be added.

pocohantas:


Some people believe they should just be loved the way they are. With their good and bad. Even when they can make conscious efforts to change, they refuse to. They call it self-love. Some compromises are healthy. He is not asking you to go from dark skin to fair skin, he is only asking you reduce the salt you put in food. You na say the man that loves you would enjoy your food like that. You want to damage his liver?

Well then I had to check & recheck this moniker again
I was like imma never gonna believe who just posted this
This dame got it right straight up & also impressed me cos this is the first time I'm this impressed

Kobojunkie:
There is no special flow between a husband and a wife in Jesus Christ and no special headship except that which came by way of the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 from which all those who are in Jesus Christ have been redeemed from. The only Head over each and every one who is a disciple - those who have been redeemed from that very curse - is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone.
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It's okay if you don't agree with me on this

bezimo:
What does Jesus say about adultery in marriage? Go and find out first before asking me stupid question?

Jesus Christ only said that divorce is permitted in the case of fornication in marriage. He never actually prescribed it, so?

Ayo081:
It's okay if you don't agree with me on this

Scripture works best when we don't add or remove from it. Prescribing a special case for married couples where God has not prescribed such is what Paul is alleged to have done in Ephesians, and this by erroneously suggesting that the curse is God's plan for the redeemed.

DeRichard:
If you read Matthew 6:25-33 Jesus talked about the fact that we seek what we'll eat and wear before seeking the kingdom of God and he emphasized that the kingdom of God should come first and every other thing shall be added. It's just a way of saying after we seek the kingdom of God first we can then seek other good things of life which will be added.

Matthew 6 vs 25 -33 doesn't in fact say we should seek what we eat or drink. Instead Jesus Christ teaches that we are to trust God for that which we will eat and drink, believing that God will provide it all, even more than He does for all His other creatures.

And if you continue on, Jesus Christ also declared that after fining the Kingdom and Righteousness, that God Himself will add other things to us - we don't need to seek other things first to have them added by Him.

Is it possible you have been reading your Bible left-to-right or something cause you keep misconstruing what is clearly expressed in it.

pocohantas:


Some people believe they should just be loved the way they are. With their good and bad. Even when they can make conscious efforts to change, they refuse to. They call it self-love. Some compromises are healthy. He is not asking you to go from dark skin to fair skin, he is only asking you reduce the salt you put in food. You na say the man that loves you would enjoy your food like that. You want to damage his liver?

Some wives don't mind damaging the liver of their husbands under this marital context so long the man is not serious about showing her true love but unconditional love that has been faulted.

Kobojunkie:
Scripture works best when we don't add or remove from it. Prescribing a special case for married couples where God has not prescribed such is what Paul is alleged to have done in Ephesians, and this by erroneously suggesting that the curse is God's plan for the redeemed.

God gave warnings/prophecy to nations/individuals through prophets in the old testament.

Christ reached his disciples.

Christ commanded his disciples to teach with the spirit.

So God could speak through you too if you have the spirit of truth.

20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:20‭-‬21 NIV

Iyaebe:
Best advice ever,it's best to study the flaws of a partner and see if you can cope with him/her than concentrating only on the good side.In marriage love should be secondary, marry who have sense and compatibility should be your top priority. Love will fade if you marry a stupid person and you'll begin to ask yourself if you were hypnotized.

well said zzor

Unconditional love was never meant for humans.

Don't give it and don't expect it for your own peace of mind, because doing either will definitely get you burnt.

Bringing your best on the other hand, or at least trying to bring your best — now this is something a human can aspire to.

The counselor earned her degree.

Getting marriage instructions from movies?

You are funny

Kobojunkie:
Matthew 6 vs 25 -33 doesn't in fact say we should seek what we eat or drink. Instead Jesus Christ teaches that we are to trust God for that which we will eat and drink, believing that God will provide it all, even more than He does for all His other creatures.

And if you continue on, Jesus Christ also declared that after fining the Kingdom and Righteousness, that God Himself will add other things to us - we don't need to seek other things first to have them added by Him.

Is it possible you have been reading your Bible left-to-right or something cause you keep misconstruing what is clearly expressed in it.

I understand what you're saying but my point is if we seek the kingdom of God first we are definitely going to want provision from God and yes the Bible says God will add other things to us even if we don't ask but even the same Bible says ask and it shall be given unto thee.

Magnoliaa:


Okay. Thank youu.

You are welcome

Lollittaa:

since you're not lazy, find one

He didn't personalize. He used "we." Why you con take am personally Lollittaa?

Ayo081:
So God could speak through you too if you have the spirit of truth.

The Spirit of Truth, is Jesus Christ , and He will never reveal or speak any Truth that contradicts Jesus Christ. When you understand this, you will realize how very important it is to validate everything you hear and think against God's Truth, Jesus Christ, this as revealed to the world over 2000 years ago.

DeRichard:
I understand what you're saying but my point is if we seek the kingdom of God first we are definitely going to want provision from God and yes the Bible says God will add other things to us even if we don't ask but even the same Bible says ask and it shall be given unto thee.

I prefer we take Jesus Christ seriously since He is after all the Word of God and our opinions are nothing but lies where the Truth of God is concerned. So when in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 He said that our marriage is of this world and not of His Kingdom, it is in our interest that we believe what He said rather than try to rationalize it in some way that diminishes His claim. After all the Kingdom belongs to Him and He knows best where it regards what belongs in it , and what does not.

Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

My advice: love is the most important about marriage.
Without live, there is no stable companionship.

Unconditional love among the couples is most important.

Ayo081:

God gave warnings/prophecy to nations/individuals through prophets in the old testament.

Christ reached his disciples.

Christ commanded his disciples to teach with the spirit.

So God could speak through you too if you have the spirit of truth.

As to what is stated in 2 Peter 1 vs 20 - 21, as quoted by you, am I to take it then that you also consider that which is written in scriptural texts such as the infact Gospel of Jesus, the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas, the apocalypse of John, the Gospel of Nicodemus, Bel and the dragon ... etc., -many of them not including in your current Bible today - as being of the Holy Spirit?

Or is it only prophesy and scripture and of the Holy Spirit if currently included in the book you call your Bible?

Xano:


My advice: love is the most important about marriage.
Without live, there is no stable companionship.

Unconditional love among the couples is most important.

Are you sure you can love your spouse unconditionally?