DeRichard:
There something called Christian marriage. Please see this scripture:
1 Corinthians 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

"Only in the Lord".

Kobojunkie:
What law do you think is referenced there in that text?

DeRichard:


I don't get please.

Kobojunkie:
You posted the verse in your bid to counter Jesus Christ's own decree and I am asking you what law is it that binds the woman to the man as expressed in the verse ...

Also, Jesus Christ told you in clear speak that your marriages are not of His Kingdom but of this world, yet you think that there text is able to counter Jesus Christ's own decree as far as His Kingdom is concerned?

Kobojunkie:
I completely get what you are saying only that it does not line up with the teachings of Jesus Christ

I know it sounds crazy when I tell you things like everyone who is attached to the church of men is headed in the other direction as far as Heaven is concerned. But it is the Truth as contained in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

Hathor5:


Are you sure you can love your spouse unconditionally?

DeRichard:
I'm not contradicting Jesus Christ.

This is the passage again: 1 Corinthians 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

The wife it says is subject to her husband as far as he's alive but if her husband dies she can marry another man but in the Lord. Which is an indication that she should marry within the Christian space.

Ayo081:
Absolutely! Christ prophesied that many will be led astray.

But he then commanded his disciples to teach

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to teach those who are not saved - those who are yet to believe and be baptized. Recall that Jesus Christ declared that He alone is Teacher, leader/authority over those who are saved - those who are entered into His Kingdom.

Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

Ayo081:
What do you think of discipleship making?

Teaching those who need salvation for a day or two?

Magnoliaa:


Yeah, sure. The realists should go right ahead and embrace it. Count me out.



Me? No. I don't have a definition for it, haven't seen the need to. But 1 Corinthians 13 is my go-to definition and guide. You can can check it out.



Lol. Of course. And I create stories like that as well. Sooo it's not far-fetched for me to believe in stuffs like that. How would I sell them, buy your interest and love and influence your beliefs if I don't believe myself? If I don't believe the words I write? Or the circumstances I create in my stories? Or the emotions I evoke to create a magical and satisfying experience when you flip the last page and back cover shut? Belief beget belief.

LordReed:


According to the Bible the god's love is conditional or else why would he need to forgive you your sins.

Iyaebe:
Best advice ever,it's best to study the flaws of a partner and see if you can cope with him/her than concentrating only on the good side.In marriage love should be secondary, marry who have sense and compatibility should be your top priority. Love will fade if you marry a stupid person and you'll begin to ask yourself if you were hypnotized.

Hathor5:
Do you agree?

I am watching a series and in one of the episodes a couple goes to see a marriage counselor. She tells them that marriage is not about unconditional love but an agreement to show up the best we can. It is meant to challenge each spouse to bring out the best in them.

How useful is this kind of advice?

Longsleeve:


Unconditional love will cover everything if it's genuine..

If you love a stupid person unconditionally.. you won't see any stupidity again in him/her

Lollittaa:

the Only form of unconditional love among humans is that between mother and child. Every other kind of love is conditioned upon meet some requirements.
So yes marriage is not based on unconditional love. Only a deep sense of loyalty and commitment.

Klass99:
I agree with her and I love what she said about showing up the best you can. No contest, no debate on this matter.

When I see or hear people say that true love is unconditional or say different variations of it like, if you truly love me you will forget about the money (meaning the loan they took from you like Caryorday's ex ) I think to myself yeye and naivety is worrying this one.

Kobojunkie:
Again, by what law is the wife bound to her husband?

DeRichard:
Look at n example of Nigerian marriages today. They do do court marriage that's the law that binds them as husband and wife and if they want to divorce they are separated by the same law by the court.

Double0h7:


You were watching "You" on Netflix

theForth:


I once believed in unconditional love, but I soon realized my folly.

I read a thread some while ago, I can't really remember the title but the whole theme was centered on a man who lost his job for a few months and had to walk on "egg shells" in his own home in order not to upset his wife who has been footing the bill for a few months.

The whole thread was comical, in fact the husband was grateful to his wife for being more tolerant, and although she had outbursts here and there but it wasn't "something he couldn't swallow" according to him. The thread was really eye opening as most comments from men and women alike insinuated that the op married an understanding wife with a little outburst about his loss of job.

People get frustrated when their needs aren't met and is anyone morally upright to judge them?

The only problem I have is people deciding what needs are good or evil, a woman frustrated by her husbands loss of job is good but a man frustrated about his wife's inability to bear kids is evil.

Kobojunkie:
The reference made to Law in Paul's letter the Corinthians referenced one of God's Laws. My question to you is which of God's Law did Paul reference in that verse which you quoted. The answer is of importance to the discussion.

DeRichard:
To my understanding it wasn't God's law that passage was referring to but the law that binds a woman in marriage as in the law of the court that binds couples in marriage. This is what I believe though.

25 Now I write about people who are not married.[a] I have no command from the Lord about this, but I give my opinion. And I can be trusted, because the Lord has given me mercy. - 1 Corinthians 7 vs 25

Kobojunkie:
Now we are getting somewhere. According to Paul, what he presented to you in the context of 1 Corinthians 7 vs 25 - 40 is his personal opinion and not that commanded of God - Not of God's Law.
Yet, you are all too willing to ignore God's direct commandments given to you by the one who is God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, this so you can cling to the opinion of a man named Paul?

DeRichard:

Look at the church today. We have prophets and sometimes we go to them for spiritual advice/counselling. On some issues, they will advice one based on their spiritual experience not as if God directed them to give that particular advice. Will we now say because it's not directly from God we will not hearken to such advice.

And I have still tried to let you know what Jesus meant in that Luke 20 passage.

In all, what you're just trying to bring out is for a marriage to be successful it doesn't necessarily need to be dependent on God. Which is wrong.

Kobojunkie:
What you do in your churches and those who you call prophets in them have nothing to do with Jesus Christ or God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God , so let's not deviate from this please.

Jesus Christ was clear in His teachings and commandments that He alone is Teacher/Rabbi, counselor, Master, Authority/Head, Guide, Shepherd etc., over each and everyone of those who belong to Him, so I am not sure why you seek advice from men pretending God is in what you do.

Again, Jesus Christ, the one whose Kingdom it is made it clear to all those who will enter into His Kingdom that marriages are of this world and not of His Kingdom - there are no such things as Christian marriages - this in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. That you deny His Truth speaks volumes of whose you are as it seems you are not even in the same boat with the one you call savior.

God, who instituted marriage, never declared that its "success" depends on Jesus Christ - God never declared any such. So for you to put your own words into God's mouth - this against God's commandment that you not add or remove from God's Law - indicates your trust is not in God but in the traditions and doctrines of men instead.

DeRichard:
Without the Holy Spirit no man can truly understand the true interpretations of the Bible. I assume you're not a Christian from what you said about we listening to our prophets who God gave power from time immemorial, since the days of the old testament to lead his people.

Please become a born again Christian today. Jesus is the only way.

Hathor5:


Frustration that a man lost his job is not due to a lack of love but the result of worries such as how will we pay the rent, school fees etc.

Karlifate:
Don't delude yourself. No human being can love you unconditionally.

Even your parents will start complaining & naming sacrifices they made for you, if you fail to provide for them at a certain age.

P.S. Only Jesus can love you unconditionally.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said one first needs the Holy Spirit in order to understand the Bible, nor did He say there was need for an interpretation to begin with.

The books of the Bible where written by men in human language and were meant to be understood by human minds using applying basic human language comprehension skills which the average individual out learns from a very early age. There is no interpretation need for any of what is written in that book since it is in human language and meant for human consumption.

You claim you listen for prophets who God sent but you refuse to listen and trust in Jesus Christ, the one who the prophets of Old all told you is to come, why?
You think yourself a Christian where you use deceit to wriggle your way out of trusting the very words of Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christian?