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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by mepoyi: 5:23pm On Oct 31, 2021
How was That picture taken?
Who was the photographer?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 5:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
seunmsg:


Igbos ladies were still dressing naked when the picture was taken.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 5:29pm On Oct 31, 2021
Ikwereanlion:
Nice pics but the pics is not African enuf


Evrytin for the palace na oyibo give dem even the palace.The pictures did not showcase Africa but colonization.



How did oyinbo give them the palace, oyo lost most of her nice structures to reckless wars, oyo kí segbe babanla babayin nyamiri

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 5:41pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:

It was late 19 century bro, that time Ibos were still naked, they have no understanding of civilization
The Alaafin according to the picture started his tenure at 1914 but you said it was late 19th?
So he time travelled?

As for the naked aspect. You and I know that one anklet on an Igbo woman before the white men came can buy the entire Oyo and Ife.
Fact

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 5:46pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

The Alaafin according to the picture started his tenure at 1914 but you said it was late 19th?
So he time travelled?

As for the naked aspect. You and I know that anklet on one Igbo woman before the white men came can buy the entire Oyo and Ife.
Fact

Capt. William A Ross was resident of Oyo 1914-1931 not the tenure of Alaafin. The palace was there before the tenure of Alaafin.

Why is that ibos ancestors were naked and could not defend their land against igala and Bini?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 5:51pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:


Capt. William A Ross was resident of Oyo 1914-1931 not the tenure of Alaafin. The palace was there before the tenure of Alaafin.

Why is that ibos ancestors were naked and could not defend their land against igala and Bini?
I don't argue nonsense. Everybody wished they had contact with Ndigbo. I am surprised you didn't ask the primitive Yoruba people at that time as part of the people that raided Igboland.


That aside, Pictures speak louder than words.

Between your Alaafin (1st pic) and one man walking on his own in Ogwashi-Ukwu (2nd pic) who looks more dignified or rich?

From the first picture, you don't need me to clarify to you how the original Oyo Palace looked like before the white men built what the OP posted.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 5:51pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

The picture is from early 20th century (after Amalgamation).
By then, Igbo businessmen have started developing estates in Lagos.

By the way, I never knew we would get to a level when Yorubas will start celebrating what the white men built as theirs.

Lol. These people are more Shameless than I thought.

The earlier you come to terms with reality, the earlier you escape the bondage of your envy and quixotic history.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 5:52pm On Oct 31, 2021
damosky12:


The earlier you come to terms with reality, the earlier you escape the bondage of your envy and quixotic history.
Envying what exactly?
The lie?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 5:57pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Envying what exactly?
The lie?

Lol. You opened a thread on oyo unprovoked by anyone. The next thing is to start a baseless comparison and try to bring "ndigbo" into the thread. Isn't that a thing? Think!

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 6:00pm On Oct 31, 2021
damosky12:


Lol. You opened a thread on oyo unprovoked by anyone. The next thing is to start a baseless comparison and try to bring "ndigbo" into the thread. Isn't that a thing? Think!
Comparison or I replied one dude and posted the original Palace before the white men built what the OP posted.

You people are not even ashamed of claiming what was built during colonialism as yours?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 6:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

I don't argue nonsense. Everybody wished they had contact with Ndigbo. I am surprised you didn't ask the primitive Yoruba people at that time as part of the people that raided Igboland.


That aside, Pictures speak louder than words.

Between your Alaafin (1st pic) and one man walking on his own in Ogwashi-Ukwu (2nd pic) who looks more dignified or rich?

From the first picture, you don't need me to clarify to you how the original Oyo Palace looked like before the white men built what the OP posted.

cheesy Ogwashi-Ukwu guy look like barbaric ape even tho his pic is more recent

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 6:04pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:


cheesy Ogwashi-Ukwu guy look like barbaric ape even tho his pic is more recent
Settled. At the sight of something more powerful than them, humans lose their senses.

It's like you haven't heard of colorising or probably how Ndigbo dressed looks like the future to you savages.

We were never mates and will never be

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 6:10pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Comparison or I replied one dude and posted the original Palace before the white men built what the OP posted.

You people are not even ashamed of claiming what was built during colonialism as yours?

LOL. Ignorance.

Do a study on the ancient oyo empire. Video documentaries are there with archeological clues. It'll save you this fiasco.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 6:14pm On Oct 31, 2021
damosky12:


LOL. Ignorance.

Do a study on the ancient oyo empire. Video documentaries are there with archeological clues. It'll save you this fiasco.
You can as well just type Oyo Palace in Google and be ashamed of yourself for celebrating what the white men donated to you

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 6:19pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

You can as well just type Oyo Palace in Google and be ashamed of yourself for celebrating what the white men donated to you

Don't just search on Google. Building on Google results is a rather immature and absurd approach to sourcing facts. Do an actual study. Read historical materials. Watch documentaries. Do these, and you'll be back to laugh at your posts here.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 6:22pm On Oct 31, 2021
damosky12:


Don't just search on Google. Building on Google results is a rather immature and absurd approach to sourcing facts. Do an actual study. Read historical materials. Watch documentaries. Do these, and you'll be back to laugh at your posts here.
Buhahaha grin. What I have you was the easiest method to cure your ignorance without seeing what will depress you more.

Believe me, you wouldn't like to see how they described Yoruba people if I should post it.
You might be ashamed to call yourself Yoruba outside of your house

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 6:23pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Buhahaha grin. What I have you was the easiest method to cure your ignorance without seeing what will depress you more.

Believe me, you wouldn't like to see how they described Yoruba people if I should post it.
You might be ashamed to call yourself Yoruba outside of your house

Man. Enjoy!

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by BKayy: 6:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
damosky12:


Man. Enjoy!
Please try and Google at least so that you won't embarrass yourself in public when you post the pictures the OP did as original Yoruba architecture in the midst of scholars.

The feeling stays for life

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by damosky12(m): 6:35pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Please try and Google at least so that you won't embarrass yourself in public when you post the pictures the OP did as original Yoruba architecture in the midst of scholars.

The feeling stays for life

grin Cry your cry and leave my mention abeg.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Blackfire(m): 7:02pm On Oct 31, 2021
LegendHero:


Let me translate it for you. I don’t know ami ohun much like that which explained why you might not understand it well. Also, I used a proper Oyo dialect.

—Oyo Alaafin (Oyo, the descendant of the Alaafin)
—Ojo pa sekere omo atiba (Rain must not beat sekere, Son of Atiba)
—Oyo nipe kolowo ko gbowo (Oyo said the creditor should collect his money)
—Oni koni iwofa gba tire (He also went to tell the debtor (Iwofa - a system where people use their family as collateral to borrow money) not to pay his debt)
—Ase kole ba di’ja, ko le ba daapon (Not knowing that the reason why Oyo did this is so that fight can happen)
—Komo oba le ri ‘n muje (So the prince can eat)
—Oyo gbin agbado oran seyinkule elenkule (Oyo planted a wicked mystery maize/corn of trouble at another man's backyard)
—Elenkule o gbodo faatu, be ni ko si gbodo faaya (The owner must not uproot it, and he must not shred it)
__Omo iku, tiku kogbódò pa
(child of death who death cannot kill)
----Omo Arun, tarun kogbódò see
(child of pestilence who cannot be tied down by sickness)
----Omo Ofo, tofo kogbódò see(child of calamity whom calamity can't afflict )

All this eulogy of Oyo is just showing the empire might. Imagine planting a corn/maize of trouble at the back of one’s compound and telling him not to uproot it nor shred it. Like you’re showing your might and power over them.



This shows the barbarity of the so called empire...


Imagine..

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 7:09pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

Settled. At the sight of something more powerful than them, humans lose their senses.

It's like you haven't heard of colorising or probably how Ndigbo dressed looks like the future to you savages.

We were never mates and will never be

You Ibos are funny sha, Yoruba not una papa mate

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 31, 2021
Blackfire:




This shows the barbarity of the so called empire...


Imagine..

Show might and power, oyo loni karin kirin osi yeni (oyo own make walking befit person)

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by LegendHero(m): 7:18pm On Oct 31, 2021
Blackfire:




This shows the barbarity of the so called empire...


Imagine..

That’s why they are called empires. They are powerful and expansive.

Check the whole empire that have ever existed, they are powerful and they wage war, seize lands, and oppress such that you can’t challenge them until when you can overpower it.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Theoarhics: 7:57pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.
Amala and Ewedu culture

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Eriokanmi: 7:58pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.
I am telling you. Civilisation actually evolved in Yorubaland and extended to other parts of Africa. We did not just have those brown roofs in Ibadan, the former largest city on the whole of the African continent . At the time when those roofs were reigning, 99 per cent of the roofs in Niger Area ( which later became Nigeria) were covered with bamboos.

Unfortunately, we lost our space to foreigners from other parts of Africa due to ijękuję awon oloriiwa. Our forebears weren't thugs. We were well organised and had our government, long before the invasion of the west. We were enlightened people. People used to come from as far as Senegal, Gabon, Sierra Leone Uganda, etc before the invasion of the west, to seek knowledge and skills on how to organise their territories.

The Europeans once said Africa never had history but the same came to us and packed all our relics and artefacts away. Some ignorantly said here that our women never wore clothes, posting pictures downloaded from google, belonging to other territories in Africa to depict and describe us whereas the artefacts stolen from us wore clothes as carved and most of them were over 500 years old before they came to pack them away to their zoos abroad, centuries ago.

Our son even became an attorney-general in one of the African countries for years. We had the largest colony in Africa. Our colony extended to Dahomey, now Benin Republic where I visit regularly.

Some politicians came and introduced thuggery and all manners of character, then changed the narrative. Kanuris and hausas were Our slaves. One of them even later became a personal guard to Madam Tinubu who later became her husband. She was a powerful yoruba woman, a woman like a man. The guard's name was Saka and madam tinubu now changed his last name to Tinubu her name, a man bearing a woman's name...to describe how powerful she was. A Street was named after this man on VI...Saka Tinubu.

Now, our politicians had sold our power and might to the Fulanis nitori ijękuję. Alale Yoruba maa bi gbogbo won. We will get our strength back for sure, sooner or later.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Foreigna2: 7:58pm On Oct 31, 2021
BKayy:

The picture is from early 20th century (after Amalgamation).
By then, Igbo businessmen have started developing estates in Lagos.

By the way, I never knew we would get to a level when Yorubas will start celebrating what the white men built as theirs.

Lol. These people are more Shameless than I thought.

I doubt if you are igbo. You must be one of those children fathered by fulani herdsmen who manhandled Igbo women.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Awise09(m): 8:00pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.
you said it all

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Kay25(m): 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
Firroda:


As a yoruba boy who can read and write in Yoruba, I find that very painful to read, had to read very very slowly to comprehend. Oyinbo culture don finish us
na u finish urself

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by temitope27(m): 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.
and I thank God for you grin

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by cr7lomo: 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.

We know u are yoruba...keep on decieving urself

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by jaxxy(m): 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
sammybest889:
wait ooo in d other side of the picture...is it not a white man am see their seating on one of d chiefpalace chairs

wow so dis White men has been extorting us since time memorial anyway I have nothing 2 say....BT going by history I once heard DAT
..d Alaafin, or The Owner of the Palace in the Yoruba
language, is the title of an emperor of the medieval Oyo
empire down to dis present-day how true is dat

Can u see the palace building?? Can any black man of that era build such sophisticated structure??

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Alaafin Of Oyo, A Diviner And Legendary Capt. William A. Ross by Bantu10: 8:02pm On Oct 31, 2021
SlyDev:
Yoruba civilization is the best, Omo see culture and greatness in one picture.

If I'm not Yoruba, I will be jealous of them.

Who will jealous skull miners?? Well maybe the terrorists up north

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