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DitariDisciple2:
Ndoki are Ijaw people and it is Oyigbo not Obigbo.

Anonymous15:
motherfucker I don't care about you or your Ethnic nationality, or your monicker or you at all, and even your reply or wether you know we exist.
ofcourse ndigbo knows we exist because we were your slave Masters. your ancestors revered us, and when we bought y'all as slaves, you took names from tribes of the Ijaw Ethnic nation, with reference to your brother mbanaso okwarazurumba taken from Amaigbo, present day IMO state and who accepted the name Jubo jubogha (Jaja of Opobo) and adopted various tribal tongue under the Ijaw nation.
you were sold by us for Dane guns, rum, etibo, and canons for our war canoes. below is a written copy of an excerpt from one of the perekule Kings on facts about Bonny to be sent to the British archives

TERMINOLOGY FROM KING PEPPLE.
Bonny is called OKOLOMA by themselves
Bonny is called okoloBA by the ibos
osiminikun by the Aboh tribe of ibo
new Calabar is called Bom by the ibos

king pepple said that Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by IBO SLAVES though they speak the OKOLOMA or Bonny language which is also the language of new Calabar.

I remain Rev and Dear sir
your obedient humble servant
Samuel crowther


that above is the report.
you never spoke Igbo when you were bought except now when Everyman is free and ofcourse there are igbos in Bonny BECAUSE Y'ALL LIKE TO ENTER EVERYWHERE UNINVITED but that doesn't mean you own the place mother fucker.
OKOLOMA is a clan under ijaw and the British didn't meet any Igbo speaking Igbo, but the OKOLOMA dialect like that report says.

you can search for it if you want, believe it or not but I don't care at all nigga.
and I won't engage you further. the most I'll do is rename you with an ijaw name like we did your ancestors.

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Abeg no break my bones!.. now lets talk.why is Igbo related issues dominating this section?..are we the only tribe in Nigeria?

izac82:
Ndi Igbo, we really need to go back to our tenet of civilization. One of our basis of existence is dialogue. We were a nation of dialogue and open conversation. Our ancestors were master conversationalist. No wonder, our progenitors christened it ''ekpan nkata'', because civil conversation was an art by itself. How we lost that capacity is still baffling to me.
We cannot achieve anything on abuse and insults. You may ague that other groups insult and attack us, but two wrong can never make a right. Present your case with facts, figures and decorum, and I tell you, by stooping low, we will conquer. And I support the OP on this, Oje mba ewe ilo.

adamsmith914:
But if Yankee offer you book, you will abandon your ignorant tribalist mindset, even Mazi has denied been Nigerian that he is British, is it possible to be igbo without been a Nigerian? Can you produce your birth certificate if you have one to debunk the assertion that you are from Nri & not Nigeria?

adamsmith914:
Answer the question, is it possible to be igbo without been Nigerian? Mention the country that your parents are from, or you were the one that created your existence?

VOICEofORIENTAL:
I know exactly what I'm saying!..no one paid me!MY INTENTION IS TO UNRAVEL THE MYSTERY BEHIND IGBO HATRED IN NIGERIA.there must be a reason for the hate across NIGERIA

VOICEofORIENTAL:
We can discuss without abusing anyone.you missed the point! HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WHEN YOU HEAR THAT YOUR BROTHER OR SISTER IS AT THE CENTER OF DISCUSSION EVERYDAY IN YOUR COMMUNITY?..AS AN IGBO I'M BOTHERED WHY WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE NEWS

Fejoku:
There's still a community called Okoloma in Obigbo LGA of Rivers State. We all know the people of Obigbo are the same Ndoki stock that are associated with Bonny. Igbo is a language spoken in Bonny for over 200years by both some of the natives and slaves brought from elsewhere in the hinterland. You can't change history.

Anonymous15:
Oyigbo was a broker point. There are calabar quarters there, abriba, mbano camp and other camps there.
Osu's were sold by your fellow igbos at the meeting point at oyigbo. OKOLOMA the original name of Bonny had it's camp too at OKOLOMA in the broker point (oyigbo) and that is why it is still called OKOLOMA, same as calabar quarters,mbano camp, etc.
You bring the osu's amongst your Igbos and meet with the OKOLOMA and BRASSMEN who controlled the water territories and were middle men with the whites and sold them to the ijaws who inturn sell them to the whites. The ones who weren't selected were kept as domestic slaves in ijaw land and renamed into ijaw names.
If you all had the said rights and authority, why then were you renamed?
When a stronger nation takes people of another nation, the captives are renamed for instance in Babylon, hananiah, azaria and co were named into shedrach meshak and Abednego.
Or did you wilfully rename yourselves into ijaw names? If so, I thought you people love your culture and are proud of it, I'm curious.

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Now you are talking.why the fake news only on igbos?.. you talked about bad roads & infrastructure in the east? the three tier of government should share the blame for bad road & infrastructure in the east.how many states & lg owned roads in the east are good?we should learn to hold our leaders in Alaigbo responsible for this decay.you talked about rail project?All our senators except Abaribe are not doing enough in this regard.. remember we have ministers, senators,hor members, state govnors, state assembly members yet, our roads & infrastructures remains very bad.we must not blame the fg on every matter in Alaigbo..ALL OF THEM INCLUDING THE,FG,SG& THE LG ARE FAILURES.. back to the main issue.WHY THE ANTI IGBO THREAD?..WHY ARE WE ALWAYS ON THE NEWS?

Igboid:
Ijaw is an inconsequential Ogogoro drinkers who never amounted to anything significant in the past or present.
Tell me the most prominent Ijaw man in history?
King Jaja? Well Jaja is Igbo and likewise Opobo, which is his personal estate.
Ijaws were so inconsequential that Igbos were rulling over you in your lands.
Oko Jumbo in Bonny was Igbo, King Pepple was Igbo, Jaja was Igbo, Edi Abali the ancestor of Asari Dokubo who ruled Buguma was Igbo from Abam.
That's how inconsequential you are.

Ndiigbo don't reckon such a people. Opobo and Bonny remain Igbo speaking.
Nothing you or anyone can do about it.

BKayy:
I don't even know why they abolished slave trade.
If not you would have been a porn star or gangsta in America.

Had it been the British allowed slave trade to last at least more 20 years, I doubt there will anybody remaining to be called Ijaw or Itsekiri today because at the time slave trade was abolished, the remaining Ijaw population that managed to hide from Igbo slave raiders was estimated at 3,000 and Itsekiri 10,000, Brass 2,000

Just tell me the name of one Ijaw sláve trader or raider? Just one?
One?
Ofu mkpụrụ[/b]

BKayy:
And would you mind telling us the name of one Ijaw sláve retailers from the thousands?

Bloody liar.

Please I want you to do something for me. Please show an Ijaw man that is atleast 70 years old this picture.
If he/she didn't have heart attack while screaming the name "Igbo" I will deactivate from Nairaland.

Anonymous15:
if Bonny is Igbo, why did mbanaso okwarazurumba threw away his Igbo name to answer Jubo jubogha?
if oko jumbo was Igbo, why did he fight Jubo jubogha who eyed the throne and was sent on exile?
If the igbos owned Bonny or rulled it, why did they throw away their Igbo names to answer ijaw names? I thought y'all are proud of your names and customs.
Bkayy says igbos were slave raiders, why did they capture only igbos because from a report I will show, Igbo slaves populated ijaw lands and were renamed just like when haniah azariah and co were renamed by Babylon to shedrach meshak and Abednego.
If fubara pepple was Igbo, why did he send this report through crowther to the British?
Imagine owning OKOLOMA but you chose to speak OKOLOMA dialect and change your names to ijaw names
Please Bkayy and igboid explain this report to the British government through crowther

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Anonymous15:
Lol, stop convulsing.
Who captured mbanaso okwarazurumba?

The ijaws need not bother themselves, igbos has been their biggest enemy, y'all sell your brothers with the right pay.
STOP EVADING MY QUESTION.
IF Y'ALL OWNED BONNY, WHY THEN DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAMES TO IJAW NAMES?
WHY DID MBANASO ANSWER JUBO?
IF FUBARA PEPPLE WAS IGBO WHY DID HE SEND THIS REPORT TO THE BRITISH?
WHY DID HE SAY BONNY WAS MOSTLY PEOPLED BY IBO SLAVES?

Idiko1:
You are doomed by proffering crap accredited to a freed slave boy. A slave boy who could not remember his place of birth equally cannot tell the history of Ubani (Bony or Okoloma).

Anonymous15:
if Bonny is Igbo, why did mbanaso okwarazurumba threw away his Igbo name to answer Jubo jubogha?
if oko jumbo was Igbo, why did he fight Jubo jubogha who eyed the throne and was sent on exile?
If the igbos owned Bonny or rulled it, why did they throw away their Igbo names to answer ijaw names? I thought y'all are proud of your names and customs.
Bkayy says igbos were slave raiders, why did they capture only igbos because from a report I will show, Igbo slaves populated ijaw lands and were renamed just like when haniah azariah and co were renamed by Babylon to shedrach meshak and Abednego.
If fubara pepple was Igbo, why did he send this report through crowther to the British?
Imagine owning OKOLOMA but you chose to speak OKOLOMA dialect and change your names to ijaw names
Please Bkayy and igboid explain this report to the British government through crowther

Anonymous15:
if Bonny is Igbo, why did mbanaso okwarazurumba threw away his Igbo name to answer Jubo jubogha?
if oko jumbo was Igbo, why did he fight Jubo jubogha who eyed the throne and was sent on exile?
If the igbos owned Bonny or rulled it, why did they throw away their Igbo names to answer ijaw names? I thought y'all are proud of your names and customs.
Bkayy says igbos were slave raiders, why did they capture only igbos because from a report I will show, Igbo slaves populated ijaw lands and were renamed just like when haniah azariah and co were renamed by Babylon to shedrach meshak and Abednego.
If fubara pepple was Igbo, why did he send this report through crowther to the British?
Imagine owning OKOLOMA but you chose to speak OKOLOMA dialect and change your names to ijaw names
Please Bkayy and igboid explain this report to the British government through crowther

Igboid:
What language do they speak in Bonny today? Igbo!
What language were they speaking in pre colonial days?
Igbo!
Why Jaja changed his name? Maybe Because he wanted a new identity befitting of his new life in Bonny and Opobo. He needed to evolve from Mbanaso.

Oko Jumbo was Igbo. Is this even up for debate?
King Pepple was Igbo speaking.

BKayy:
I don't even know why they abolished slave trade.
If not you would have been a porn star or gangsta in America.

Had it been the British allowed slave trade to last at least more 20 years, I doubt there will anybody remaining to be called Ijaw or Itsekiri today because at the time slave trade was abolished, the remaining Ijaw population that managed to hide from Igbo slave raiders was estimated at 3,000 and Itsekiri 10,000, Brass 2,000

Just tell me the name of one Ijaw sláve trader or raider? Just one?
One?
Ofu mkpụrụ

Anonymous15:
Lol, stop convulsing.
Who captured mbanaso okwarazurumba?

The ijaws need not bother themselves, igbos has been their biggest enemy, y'all sell your brothers with the right pay.
STOP EVADING MY QUESTION.
IF Y'ALL OWNED BONNY, WHY THEN DID YOU CHANGE YOUR NAMES TO IJAW NAMES?
WHY DID MBANASO ANSWER JUBO?
IF FUBARA PEPPLE WAS IGBO WHY DID HE SEND THIS REPORT TO THE BRITISH?
WHY DID HE SAY BONNY WAS MOSTLY PEOPLED BY IBO SLAVES?

Anonymous15:
Lol, y'all were slave raiders because at the right pay y'all will sell your brothers for money. You still do that now.
The Ijaws were the wealthiest, and they gave you mirror and fine fabric and guns for you to bring your brothers. Because your brothers were highly sort after by the whites for farming. That's why the whites are called oyibo because these white men always ask (o'wu onye'igbo) when buying but they pronounce it (oyibo)
That is why y'all were sent to America to go and farm sugar Cain and so on.
The stubborn ones over there were the ones who tried to run away and got drowned in the Igbo landing.
But I ask again, if igbos weren't slaves in Bonny after the normal change name by Masters, explain this report to the British through crowther

Igboid:
What language do they speak in Bonny today? Igbo!
What language were they speaking in pre colonial days?
Igbo!
Why Jaja changed his name? Maybe Because he wanted a new identity befitting of his new life in Bonny and Opobo. He needed to evolve from Mbanaso.

Oko Jumbo was Igbo. Is this even up for debate?
King Pepple was Igbo speaking.

Anonymous15:
[/quote]You still haven't answered any of these questions
[quote author=BKayy post=107949951]I have five questions

1. Where does Ijaw fit into all these? Especially from your picture.

2. Does Jubogha mean anything in Ijaw? I mean a word, not cut and join

3. Is Okoloma not Asa-Ndoki dialect?

4. Is there not a place called Okoloma in Obigbo?

5. Where does Ijaw fit into all these things once again?

Please endeavour to answer numbers 1, 3 and 4 before others.

BKayy:
And I asked you to tell us the meaning of the name "Jubogha" or that or Pepple which is "Oruigbiji"

As for the first question "who captured Jaja"
His name is "Obua Ajukwu" and he was from Oguta in present day Imo state

Now answer my own questions.
Tell me where Ijaw fit into all these things, especially the "Okoloma" part because that is Igbo Asa-Ndoki dialect.

The name still exist as a place in Obigbo today.

So where does Ijaw enter in the story?

Anonymous15:
I will gladly answer your question and enlighten you.
OKOLOMA in obigbo was the camp site of OKOLOMA (Bonny)
There is also ABRIBA QUATERS
CALABAR QUATERS
MBANO CAMP.

Where does ijaw fits?
Truth is, I am not even if the Ijaw tribe, my tribe is Nembe.
I mention ijaw because ijaw is the parent tribe. Ijoh had several sons and Grand sons who went on to form several other tribes(JUST AS ERI IS YOUR PATRIARCHAL FIGURE, IJOH is ours). Though ijoh per say didn't take active part in all of it, but it's other tribe who were more powerful and famous did so.
Yes, on the person who captured mbanaso, he was paid, no tribe under ijaw were slave raiders, they pay your people to sell theirs just as you still sell your brothers today for the right pay.
Have I answered your questions?
Direct other questions too and I will gladly answer them. If not, answer mine.

If Igbo owns Bonny, why did they not speak Igbo but the OKOLOMA dialect?

If Igbo was the boss, why were there names changed?
I want you to note that even in other ancient civilizations, when slaves were taken, the slaves are renamed into the conquerors names.
* The Romans did it
* Even Babylon when they captured Judah named haniah, Daniel and azariah into shedrach meshak and Abednego.

So I ask again, why was it the case in OKOLOMA?
why did pepple and crowther send this report to britain?
I have answered yours o, please answer mine

BKayy:
LOL.
Pay attention as I set you straight. Please note that "YA" means "Your Answer"

YA: Okoloma is a camp in Obigbo
Fact: No, It is an Igbo speaking district/village. The district/village that houses Afam power plant

YA: Why did they not speak Igbo but Okoloma Dialect
Fact: whatever you call it, it is an Igbo dialect just like Isu, Ngwá, Enuani, Ndoki etc. It was used to write the bible the same Crowther used to convert parts of Southern Igboland.

YA: The person that captured Jaja was paid.
Fact: No he was not a hired kidnapper but a slave trader that kidnapped Jaja and his sister.

YA: Ijaw people bought slaves
Fact: Ijaw people were too impoverished to buy anything but rely on the British slave traders for protection and as well served as servants at the port. The reason why they don't leave their duty post as servants on the ship is that they will lose their protection and as well fall victims to the Igbo slave raiders on land or water.

Now I ask again:

1.) Where does Ijaw fit into all these things?

2.) Does Okoloma mean anything to Ijaw?

3.) Does Jubogha (ask the everybody) a variant of the other Igbo name "Ọnụ Ụwa" mean anything in Ijaw?

One thing you didn't notice was that with your screenshot you managed to remove all trace of Ijaw claim on Ubani or Okoloma as you call it.
Do you know why?
Read that your shot again, it confirms that even "Ibani" the Ijaw people claim they call it is not Ijaw but another Igbo dialect"

DitariDisciple2:
All una lies and frustrations ends online, both Ndoki and Bonny are Ijaws and are both coming to Ijaw Republic.
The new Central dialect will set all things right for all Ijaws.

Ijaw Republic our home .

BKayy:
How does it feel now that you have realised that you have no claim to Ubani/Ibani/Bonny? Your or our friend Anonymous15 have cracked the case for all of us?

Lol. So even "Ibani" is not an Ijaw word .
May God bless Anonymous15 for this wonderful screenshot. He has managed to get us the original name of Kalabari and the other Igbo names of Ubani.
Plus, he has managed to complete the link between Bonny, Asa (Obigbo) and Ndoki.

cc SlayerForever, Igboid and Ekealterego.
The case has been solved.
Ibani was never an Ijaw word but Igbo.
The screenshot has completed the link.

Ijaw has no single claim to Bonny.

DitariDisciple2:
All una lies and frustrations ends online, both Ndoki and Bonny are Ijaws and are both coming to Ijaw Republic.
The new Central dialect will set all things right for all Ijaws.

Ijaw Republic our home .

BKayy:
How does it feel now that you have realised that you have no claim to Ubani/Ibani/Bonny? Your or our friend Anonymous15 have cracked the case for all of us?

Lol. So even "Ibani" is not an Ijaw word .
May God bless Anonymous15 for this wonderful screenshot. He has managed to get us the original name of Kalabari and the other Igbo names of Ubani.
Plus, he has managed to complete the link between Bonny, Asa (Obigbo) and Ndoki.

cc SlayerForever, Igboid and Ekealterego.
The case has been solved.
Ibani was never an Ijaw word but Igbo.
The screenshot has completed the link.

Ijaw has no single claim to Bonny.