CSTRR:

All miscarriages, aborted foetuses, children that die prematurely from diseases and all kinds of human factors go back to God that created them.

Express way to heaven. No hold-up.

Babies don't come from God and so they don't return to God. God said from dust we are made and to dust we return.... babies come from the dust of this earth and when they die(because they die without entering into the Kingdom of God through Jesus Christ) they return to dust just as God decreed it in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22

babadee1:
Please read this part of my statement again.

Sin doesn't have any power over us until we are old enough to understand the commandments of God and we choose to disobey. It's not complicated.

Now after reading this what do you not understand please?

The statement in bold is a lie and unscriptural.

akinwale701:
That is age 13 for Boys and 10 for girls.

In Judaism, this is what we call "Bar Mitzvah" meaning "Son (of) commandment." It is the age at which children identify themselves and are able to discern between committing sin or not.

Son of commandment refers to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, not Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are domains in.

skydeexie:
Perfect Answer!

He is wrong. Age is meaningless in the Kingdom of God.

FreelanceRebel:
The age they started to commit sin.
The soul that sin, it shall die.

This is also wrong! The Kingdom of Heaven and Hell is not about age but about what Jesus Christ said.

Ddokie:
I was looking forward to a sensible post so that I would not have to start responding to all those overzealous individuals up there. Thanks for your comment. You just saved me stress.

People who have very little knowledge about the personality of God and how God handles issues just open their mouths and speak anyhow with so much confidence. Extremely irritating.

What the one you responded to stated is a lie ! Jesus Christ gave us about 100 commandments and His Law is all-or-nothing.

Pfizzzy:
Everybody has their view about Christianity, you can't outright say where those bodies go...
The aborted ones naturally is dead and gone to nowhere.. Why? Because e nor form

My reasoning might be contrary or out of context but have said what I want to say... The way I live my life is very different. I'm a worshipper of God I communicate with HIM directly. Christ is among the Trinity, I am a child of God so if I say I commune with our Creator directly I am not wrong and no one can prove otherwise, back it up with scriptures even.

Yes you can and this because God told us where they go. So the question is do you believe God or do you not?

You are not meant to trust in your own reasoning where God is concerned. You are instead meant to use the understanding you have in order to gain more understanding from God - Matthew 13 vs 10 - 12 and Mark 4 vs 21 - 25

BMathew:
The question was at what age can a go to hell?

And the answer is age does not matter in the Kingdom of God.

dannyoz:
Bro pls where do dey stay or do are they abiku people

I don't understand your question.

Candidlady:
We have over Five different doctrines on this thread!

And this because most people swallow the doctrines and traditions fed them by their pastors and Mogs , lies , instead of actually seeking their answers and knowledge directly from God.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

_{** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted}

Burruchaga71:
Where is hell located?

Hell, like Heaven, is located in the Kingdom of God.

deekseen:
All of you quoting me and not making any reference to the Bible to back up your claims are just wasting your time.

As Christians we've been asked to compare scriptures with scriptures. The point is not about who is wrong or right. It's about pointing to what the scriptures say. No one here has the monopoly of scriptural knowledge. We're learning everyday.

Rather than compare scripture to scripture, go and read through the 4 Gospels so you can at least Learn the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, from all the lies you have consumed from your Pastors and mogs.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

_{** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted}

Jesus Christ warned us against the doctrines and traditions of men(including their churches) so heed His Word and begin learning His Truth, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God.

Abortion as we know it today was not practiced in biblical times, and the Bible never specifically mentions the issue of abortion. It is clear from the Scriptures that an unborn baby is known by the Lord, even from the time of conception (Psalm 139:13-16). Although the Bible does not mention abortion or aborted babies, we do have two keys to help us unlock the answer to the question of whether the souls of aborted babies go to heaven.

The first key is from the only passage in the Bible where something specific is said about the death of infants. In 2 Samuel 12 we learn of David’s affair with Bathsheba, another man’s wife. David was informed by the prophet Nathan that the child produced by that union would die. David then began to fast and pray, asking the Lord to not carry out His judgment. When the child did die, David got up from praying and fasting and ate something.

When asked about this behavior, David uttered the words recorded in 2 Samuel 12:23, “Now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.” David’s words reflect a clear understanding that the child could not come back to earth, but David would be with his child one day in heaven. This indicates not only David’s assurance of his own future in heaven (Psalm 23:6), but also the assurance that his child would share that future. From this account, we can conclude that infants who die are destined for heaven.

The second key to dealing with this issue is an understanding of the character and attributes of God. A God of justice must punish sin, for the Bible teaches us that “the wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23). Neither an unborn child nor an aborted baby has had the opportunity to willfully sin; however, every child conceived bears the sin nature inherited from Adam (Psalm 51:5) and is therefore subject to judgment. At the same time, God reveals Himself as a God of goodness and mercy (Psalm 136:26). He is “gracious in all His works” (Psalm 145:17). It could very well be that God, in His grace, applies the sacrifice of Christ to the unborn victims of abortion. We know Christ’s blood is sufficient for such a thing. After all, Jesus died “for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).

The Bible does not specifically say whether or not an unborn child who dies goes to heaven. Without a clear passage, we can only speculate. However, we know of God’s love, goodness, and compassion. We know of David’s confidence that he would be with his child again. And we know that Jesus invited the children to come to Him (Luke 18:16). Based on these sureties, we believe it is appropriate to conclude that the souls of children are immediately in the presence of God when their lives are cut short by abortion.

COPIED

Enbrain21:
Abortion as we know it today was not practiced in biblical times, and the Bible never specifically mentions the issue of abortion. It is clear from the Scriptures that an unborn baby is known by the Lord, even from the time of conception (Psalm 139:13-16). Although the Bible does not mention abortion or aborted babies, we do have two keys to help us unlock the answer to the question of whether the souls of aborted babies go to heaven.

I suggest you don't take anything said in this piece you copied seriously either....this because Jesus Christ made it known to us that all doctrines and traditions of men are lies where the Truth of God is concerned.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

_{** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted}

The author of your piece began fibbing from his very first paragraph. Abortions have been around for thousands of years. So his claim that it was not practiced in biblical times is hogwash.

Kobojunkie:
This is also wrong! The Kingdom of Heaven and Hell is not about age but about what Jesus Christ said.

Jesus said except a man be born again na? John3v3
He also talk about repentance Luke 13v3
He talk about evil act from evil mind Mk7v15

At this point I will agree with Jesusjnr2020

jesusjnr2020:
The age they get to know the difference between good and evil.

FreelanceRebel:
Jesus said except a man be born again na? John3v3
He also talk about repentance Luke 13v3
He talk about evil act from evil mind Mk7v15

At this point I will agree with Jesusjnr2020

1. So where do you see age in any of what Jesus Christ said in all of those verses you quoted?

2. Jesus Christ also said "I tell you the truth, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will never enter it." . Can you explain what age has to do with this rule too?

Kobojunkie:
1. So where do you see age in any of what Jesus Christ said there?

2. Jesus Christ also said "I tell you the truth, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will never enter it." . Can you explain what age has to do with this rule too?

I believe Jesus was talking about having the simplicity of a child.

In as much as Jesus didn't state which age group would enter into the kingdom of God, the only underscore of the matter is the soul that commit suicide will die in hell

Kobojunkie:
And the answer is age does not matter in the Kingdom of God.

If you understand my view very well then you will know what i meant.
The age of death means, at the point where sin can be committed and at the age the person knows what he/she did was wrong. Sin leads to death. To simply put, a age of death means,a point where a person who knows the right from wrong and decided to do the wrong(sir) and the wages of sin is death.

BMathew:
If you understand my view very well then you will know what i meant.
The age of death means, at the point where sin can be committed and at the age the person knows what he/she did was wrong. Sin leads to death. To simply put, a age of death means,a point where a person who knows the right from wrong and decided to do the wrong(sir) and the wages of sin is death.

1. What in the world is "age of death" and where does this idea come from or come in to any of this?

2. Please explain what you mean by "Sin leads to death". We are not here to talking of the Old Covenant where God decreed that sin leads to death - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - so I don't know what you mean by this now.

FreelanceRebel:
I believe Jesus was talking about having the simplicity of a child.

In as much as Jesus didn't state which age group would enter into the kingdom of God, the only underscore of the matter is the soul that commit suicide will die in hell

You didn't answer the first question I asked which is So where do you see age in any of what Jesus Christ said there?

As for the other question, are you now saying age has nothing to do with entering into Heaven then?

Really

Kobojunkie:
Sin is personal disobedience of God's commandment. How can you be born a sinner if God never gave to you a Law to begin with?

Your believe different from that of the rest. Let's assume you are right. Is it ONLY those that accept Christ and become born again that end up in heaven?

Viraltrends123:
Your believe different from that of the rest. Let's assume you are right. Is it ONLY those that accept Christ and become born again that end up in heaven?

Ofcourse.... only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell exist.

Kobojunkie:
Sin is as defined by and in God's Law. The jews are born under the Old Covenant Laws so they are said to be born in sin because they are bound to the Old Covenant Law of Moses because of their Blood - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

Gentiles, on the other hand, are not born bound to any of God's Laws. Instead we are born condemned by God's judgement from after the fall of Adam and Eve - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. That judgement which is called the condemnation of Sin aka Death dictates that all those who are under the curse are doomed to perish in the grave .I.e. cease to exist when they die..

P.s. Before a baby is conceived, it does not exist. Existence begins at conception and for an unbeliever it ends at death - from dust to dust , as God said.

Seems like you don't believe in hell fire.
You accepted that babies are not going to hell after birth, and you claimed aborted babies(died before birth) will all disappear, no heaven or hell for them.

Now the question is, what is the need of accepting Christ?

Kobojunkie:
Ofcourse.... only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell exist.

So, 1) where will those that didn't accept Christ go to, including all our forefathers that existed in Africa before your were given birth too, and all those Chinese that don't even know what christainity is, just like you don't know what hinduism is, where will the end up?

Viraltrends123:
So, 1) where will those that didn't accept Christ go to, including all our forefathers that existed in Africa before your were given birth too, and all those Chinese that don't even know what christainity is, just like you don't know what hinduism is, where will the end up?

From dust they were made and to dust they return - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 - God's judgment for all unbelievers.

Viraltrends123:
Seems like you don't believe in hell fire.
You accepted that babies are not going to hell after birth, and you claimed aborted babies(died before birth) will all disappear, no heaven or hell for them.

Now the question is, what is the need of accepting Christ?

There is a Hell fire!

Accepting Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God means to become born-again .I.e. gain access to the Kingdom of God to become a candidate for God's Heaven.

Kobojunkie:
Age is meaningless as far as the Kingdom of God - Heaven and Hell - is concerned.

Age is meaningless according to you, but God recognizes the innocence of the child, so what exactly is your point

Judgesledge:
Age is meaningless according to you, but God recognizes the innocence of the child, so what exactly is your point

Where did God tell you this?

Kobojunkie:
Son of commandment refers to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, not Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are domains in.

And there you go again, mingle-mangling everything together when it comes to the Law of God.

Kobojunkie:
What the one you responded to stated is a lie ! Jesus Christ gave us about 100 commandments and His Law is all-or-nothing.

What does kobojunkie mean?

Kobojunkie:
Death is the grave and Hell is not Death...

Hell is where all go to at death.

It is not fiery