MaxInDHouse:


That is the sacred secret!

Not all the dead will be resurrected rather it's those who were not destroyed by God Himself that will return to life, the resurrection is:

RIGHTEOUS ~ God's ancient servants who lived and served God throughout their lives! Job 14:13-14

UNRIGHTEOUS ~ People from all other races who don't know the true God but lived by conscience.

As for people who deliberately chose to be WICKED and those who were directly destroyed by God, they will not be remembered during the resurrection of the dead:

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Psalms 9:17

The nations that forget God simply means people who rendered their conscience dead, we all have instinct restraining us from doing what we know is evil even if we don't know the laws of the God of Israel! Romans 2:15

So all those rendering their conscience dead will be turned into grave (Hell)

Do you need me to show you a verse that teaches that all would be resurrected?

jesusjnr2020:
The spirit of a man is his soul, so it depends on what how he lived his life while on Earth. If for God and according to His Word, then he would preserve his spirit for eternal life. But if for the world and worked iniquity, he would lose his soul in eternal damnation.

God bless.

Bishopkingsley...this is not me.....I wonder where you got your idea of spirit and soul being two different entities...

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus died for three consecutive days that's enough warning for the rebellious angels who may be wondering how they can return to non-existence but Jesus' death is like a PREACHING to them!
So it's the rebellious angels (spirits) that are in prison not dead people! 2Peter 2:4

Jesus died as a human (in the flesh) but resurrected as a spirit! 1Corinthians 15:45

All these are sacred secrets that's revealed only to God's people who identified Jesus as the archangel Michael who is standing for our salvation {Daniel 12:1} whoever is not close to us can never understand all this secrets! Daniel 12:10

Wait take it easy.. 1peter 3 is very clear let's not twist the word of God. It stated clearly he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1peter4.6For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”
Like I always say don't add your personal opinion to the bible.. if the bible says Christmas preached, to the spirits, you don't need to change it.

tctrills:

Thanks.. so the spirit does not go to he'll right?

Why would God send part of himself to hell?

sonmvayina:


Why would God send part of himself to hell?

But the spirits go to prison.. 1peter 3.19-20
After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits(A)— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently(B) in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.(C) In it only a few people, eight in all,(D) were saved(E) through water,

tctrills:

You want me to prove your claim.

See wahala.

No be you dey talk about spirit and soul, heaven and hell? I come say those claims aren’t rooted in reality no be so? Say when person die e own don end.

How then can you ask me to prove the obvious when it’s you that’s making outlandish claims? That’s not how logic works.

tctrills:

Do you need me to show you a verse that TEACHES that all would be resurrected?

Verses of the Bible DON'T TEACH, you can only quote or cite a verse but you need someone to TEACH you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what was WRITTEN otherwise every verse will be taken literally and that will lead to endless arguments and contradictions.

So instead of quoting a verse and expecting it to solve the issue why not try to correlate the verse you have in mind with the rest of the scriptures and see if you'll arrive at a comprehensive end?

If God's word is to be read and understood by everyone then there's no reason why some are anointed with God's Holy Spirit to TEACH! Ephesians 4:11

Ola17:


See wahala.

No be you dey talk about spirit and soul, heaven and hell? I come say those claims aren’t rooted in reality no be so? Say when person die e own don end.

How then can you ask me to prove the obvious when it’s you that’s making outlandish claims? That’s not how logic works.

I asked a question about spirits, you said they don't exist then I ask you to prove what you said and you reply that's not how logic works.
Please teach me how logic works.
I since you answered my question, I thought you are the one to prove your answer to me not me that asked a question

tctrills:

But the spirits go to prison.. 1peter 3.19-20
After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits(A)— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently(B) in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.(C) In it only a few people, eight in all,(D) were saved(E) through water,

I don't know who peter is....

I don't know where he got this idea from..

I only concentrate of God and his prophet...

Sorry

MaxInDHouse:


Verses of the Bible DON'T TEACH, you can only quote or cite a verse but you need someone to TEACH you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what was WRITTEN otherwise every verse will be taken literally and that will lead to endless arguments and contradictions.

So instead of quoting a verse and expecting it to solve the issue why not try to correlate the verse you have in mind with the rest of the scriptures and see if you'll arrive at a comprehensive end?

If God's word is to be read and understood by everyone then there's no reason why some are anointed with God's Holy Spirit to TEACH! Ephesians 4:11

this is the best post I am ever getting from you and I agree with it 100%. If only you would apply what you teach.

Acts24. 15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

John5.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

1cor15.22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

tctrills:

I asked a question about spirits, you said they don't exist then I ask you to prove what you said and you reply that's not how logic works.
Please teach me how logic works.
I since you answered my question, I thought you are the one to prove your answer to me not me that asked a question

Are you asking him to prove a negative?...

That is not how it works...

sonmvayina:


I don't know who peter is....

I don't know where he got this idea from..

I only concentrate of God and his prophet...

Sorry

OK thanks for your contribution. I guess we are coming from very different places

sonmvayina:


Are you asking him to prove a negative?...

That is not how it works...

Explain

tctrills:

Wait take it easy.. 1peter 3 is very clear let's not twist the word of God. It stated clearly he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1peter4.6For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”
Like I always say don't add your personal opinion to the bible.. if the bible says Christmas preached, to the spirits, you don't need to change it.

The dead at 1Peter 4:6 is not talking about those who are in their graves, otherwise that will totally contradict what God said the beginning about LIFE and DEATH {Genesis 2:17 compare to Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} the dead in that context refers to people who don't know God. Listen to Jesus here:

When Jesus saw a crowd around him, he gave the command to depart for the other side. And a scribe came up and said to him: “Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go.” But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Then another of the disciples said to him: “Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.” Jesus said to him: “Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.” Matthew 8:18-22

So according to Jesus only those who accepts his teachings and ready to live by it are living because even if they die naturally Jesus will resurrect them {John 11:25} but as for those who don't have the accurate knowledge of God they are as good as walking corpse!

MaxInDHouse:


The dead at 1Peter 4:6 is not talking about those who are in their graves, otherwise that will totally contradict what God said the beginning about LIFE and DEATH {Genesis 2:17 compare to Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} the dead in that context refers to people who don't know God. Listen to Jesus here:

When Jesus saw a crowd around him, he gave the command to depart for the other side. And a scribe came up and said to him: “Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go.” But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Then another of the disciples said to him: “Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.” Jesus said to him: “Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.” Matthew 8:18-22

So according to Jesus only those who accepts his teachings and ready to live by it are living because even if they die naturally Jesus will resurrect them {John 11:25} but as for those who don't have the accurate knowledge of God they are as good as walking corpse!

Pls explain the contradiction with Genesis. I see zero contradiction. And yes the dead can mean so many things but in this case, it clearly talks about those physically dead.. They live as God in spirit.
Also remember this is a continuation of 1peter3 where it clearly teaches the very same principle.
Like I always say no need to add our personal doctrine to the gospel of Christ.

tctrills:

this is the best post I am ever getting from you and I agree with it 100%. If only you would apply what you teach.

Acts24. 15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

John5.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

1cor15.22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You need to compare different versions of the Bible so as to get the accurate knowledge of what you're reading!

For instance let me quote three different versions of John 5:28.

Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice. NIV


Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, KJV

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice. NWT

The word GRAVE is taken as MEMORIAL-TOMB among the Jews. WHY? Because they believe that wicked people shouldn't be given a befitting burial since they will be forgotten during the resurrection.

So what is the appropriate English word to be used for that text? Is it grave or memorial tomb knowing fully well that God's word says WICKED will be abandoned in their graves? Psalms 9:17 compare to 1Kings 13:2; 2Kings 23:16

tctrills:

Pls explain the contradiction with Genesis. I see zero contradiction. And yes the dead can mean so many things but in this case, it clearly talks about those physically dead.. They live as God in spirit.
Also remember this is a continuation of 1peter3 where it clearly teaches the very same principle.
Like I always say no need to add our personal doctrine to the gospel of Christ.

The contradictions:

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die. Genesis 2:17


Now the serpent was the most cautious of all the wild animals of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it said to the woman: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” At this the woman said to the serpent: "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”
At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:1-4

Note what Satan said: if they disobey God they will not die!

Whereas life is meant for the obedient while death is meant for the rebellious.
So if we now conclude that both the obedient and rebellious will continue to exist then whose utterance are we echoing, God's or Satan's?

As for Peter he was talking about rebellious angels who were disobedient to God by living their respective positions to come and have sex with female humans {Genesis 6:1-2} these are spirit beings who were disengaged so that they no longer know anything about God's plan, that's why the Bible says they are in dense darkness! Jude 1:6 compare to 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4

The literally dead people are conscious of nothing at all! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

tctrills:

I asked a question about spirits, you said they don't exist then I ask you to prove what you said and you reply that's not how logic works.
Please teach me how logic works.
I since you answered my question, I thought you are the one to prove your answer to me not me that asked a question

You can’t ask someone to prove the negative and negative claims are generally held to be true in as much as there’s no evidence to prove the claim false.

The burden of proof is on you. Prove that spirits exist and that it goes somewhere when we die.

When talking about the place called HellFire many have used the lies to rob people of their hard earned money due to fear of the unknown:

obembet:
Lady Evangelist who claimed she went to hell has confess that it was total lie and ask for forgiveness from church.

The prophetess has previously said she saw Jesus Christ, father Abraham and many Angel has told the church that it was total lie and appeal to church for forgiveness.
Here the the video of her confession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lNQGOL31k
Source: Dramatic_people
Edited, Obembet

But if you allow the truth of God's word you'll be set free completely from unwarranted fear of the dead who can't do anything {John 8:32} because according to God's word they don't even know anything nor remember anyone again! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Ola17:


You can’t ask someone to prove the negative and negative claims are generally held to be true in as much as there’s no evidence to prove the claim false.

The burden of proof is on you. Prove that spirits exist and that it goes somewhere when we die.

I disagree with you.. I did science. When you come out with a statement, it's up to you to prove.
No one proves a question.
If you say for example, there is no God, I should be asking you to prove that.
But I guess you are not going to prove it so there is no purpose

MaxInDHouse:


The contradictions:

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die. Genesis 2:17


Now the serpent was the most cautious of all the wild animals of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it said to the woman: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” At this the woman said to the serpent: "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”
At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:1-4

Note what Satan said: if they disobey God they will not die!

Whereas life is meant for the obedient while death is meant for the rebellious.
So if we now conclude that both the obedient and rebellious will continue to exist then whose utterance are we echoing, God's or Satan's?

As for Peter he was talking about rebellious angels who were disobedient to God by living their respective positions to come and have sex with female humans {Genesis 6:1-2} these are spirit beings who were disengaged so that they no longer know anything about God's plan, that's why the Bible says they are in dense darkness! Jude 1:6 compare to 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4

The literally dead people are conscious of nothing at all! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

First zero contradiction.
God was right.. because of Adam and Eve, everyone would die.
The statement in Genesis only talks about death and not resurrection. So zero contradiction.
2. You don't even need the bible to teach you that dead people are not conscious. We all know that. So you are right in saying that. But we now learn from Peter that the spirits of the dead are very conscious. Again, no controversies.
I find no problem In accepting all the truths in the bible. One does not have to be false for the other to be truth.
If like you say, these spirits have no part in God's plan, Jesup Christ wouldn't have preached to them

tctrills:

I disagree with you.. I did science. When you come out with a statement, it's up to you to prove.
No one proves a question.
If you say for example, there is no God, I should be asking you to prove that.
But I guess you are not going to prove it so there is no purpose

That you did “science” in school doesn’t confer on you the mastery of logic.

Kindly google ‘burden of proof fallacy’.

MaxInDHouse:


You need to compare different versions of the Bible so as to get the accurate knowledge of what you're reading!

For instance let me quote three different versions of John 5:28.

Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice. NIV


Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, KJV

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice. NWT

The word GRAVE is taken as MEMORIAL-TOMB among the Jews. WHY? Because they believe that wicked people shouldn't be given a befitting burial since they will be forgotten during the resurrection.

So what is the appropriate English word to be used for that text? Is it grave or memorial tomb knowing fully well that God's word says WICKED will be abandoned in their graves? Psalms 9:17 compare to 1Kings 13:2; 2Kings 23:16

I read different verses.. again, let's not pretend to be scholars in Hebrew or ancient Jewish history or pretend to understand Hebrew more than those who translated the bible.
Because we can quote different sources for Jewish history.
The Bible clearly stated that the unjust would resurrect.
Acts 24.15 I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked

Ola17:


That you did “science” in school doesn’t confer on you the mastery of logic.

Kindly google ‘burden of proof fallacy’.

OK sir.. we would keep going rouND in circles.
I know nothing about logic so I can't play in your field. My field is science. We areally not communicating

tctrills:

First zero contradiction.
God was right.. because of Adam and Eve, everyone would die.
The statement in Genesis only talks about death and not resurrection. So zero contradiction.
2. You don't even need the bible to teach you that dead people are not conscious. We all know that. So you are right in saying that. But we now learn from Peter that the spirits of the dead are very conscious. Again, no controversies.
I find no problem In accepting all the truths in the bible. One does not have to be false for the other to be truth.
If like you say, these spirits have no part in God's plan, Jesup Christ wouldn't have preached to them

If something survives Adam after his physical death then who lied, Satan or God?

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die ~ GOD
Genesis 2:17

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die ~ SATAN
Genesis 3:4

If there is anything that survives the dead then it's wrong saying they are unconscious {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} because they will know what is happening nah!

The topic of your thread has been answered at Ecclesiastes 3:18-20:

I also said in my heart about the sons of men that the true God will test them and show them that they are like animals, for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust

God's word says both human and animals have the same spirit so whatever happens to the spirit of a fly at death surely is the same with the spirit of Adam. So your question has been answered, what we're doing now is to erase the thoughts that dead people are conscious somewhere!

tctrills:

I read different verses.. again, let's not pretend to be scholars in Hebrew or ancient Jewish history or pretend to understand Hebrew more than those who translated the bible.
Because we can quote different sources for Jewish history.
The Bible clearly stated that the unjust would resurrect.
Acts 24.15 I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked

That's where the understanding is!

The unjust are people who don't know God's standard but lived by what their conscience tolerate. For instance people do commit adultery and fornication in times past but don't know about the God of Israel who abhors such things. People do worship idols in times past but don't know it's wrong yet they lived by conscience. So from God's standpoint they are unrighteous but since they allow their conscience to guide them then God will give them a second chance to know Him.
The righteous are people who knew God's standard and lived by it like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and many others that's why Paul listed their names for us to know those God declared righteous not because they knew Jesus Christ but due to their loyalty towards God's standard that they knew during their lifetime! Hebrews 11:4-32

As for all those destroyed by God Himself they passed directly to everlasting death!

So only the good are awaiting resurrection in God's memory no evildoer will be remembered. I keep quoting this verse but it's like you just chose to ignore it:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. NWT

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. KJV

The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. NIV

Psalms 9:17

Can you explain what God's word is saying here? We all know that all sinners will die due to Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} and ever since everyone both good and evil are dying, and they are still in their graves until now.
So what is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of this particular verse?

tctrills:

Sir, you wrote so much, I would have loved to reply all but let's see what I can do.
First. You did not in anyway or form answer my question.
My question was, what happened to the spirit of man at death. I was asking about the consciousness of the spirit at death.

Yes John 5.25 was talking about resurrection but before resurrection, the dead would hear the voice of Christ and those that believe would be saved.

He yearned out of point. He is a JW member who wants to force their doctrines down your throat.

The answer is absolutely out of point.




However, Solomon's writings are not all of divine inspiration being poems and songs. Many of them are philosophical and none is prophetic, him, being not a prophet like David his father.


I don't personally believe that Solomon knows anything about afterlife. The case of Lazarus clearly tells us that so much are happening in the afterlife. Also, is Revelations, the spirit of those that are matyrred Were crying for justice.

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev. 6: 9 - 10.
Jesus said he is greater than Solomon, since he was not a rich man or an earthly king, he can only be greater by wisdom and understanding. And of course, he being not part of this world.

MaxInDHouse:


That's where the understanding is!

The unjust are people who don't know God's standard but lived by what their conscience tolerate. For instance people do commit adultery and fornication in times past but don't know about the God of Israel who abhors such things. People do worship idols in times past but don't know it's wrong yet they lived by conscience. So from God's standpoint they are unrighteous but since they allow their conscience to guide them then God will give them a second chance to know Him.
The righteous are people who knew God's standard and lived by it like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and many others that's why Paul listed their names for us to know those God declared righteous not because they knew Jesus Christ but due to their loyalty towards God's standard that they knew during their lifetime! Hebrews 11:4-32

As for all those destroyed by God Himself they passed directly to everlasting death!

So only the good are awaiting resurrection in God's memory no evildoer will be remembered. I keep quoting this verse but it's like you just chose to ignore it:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. NWT

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. KJV

The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. NIV

Psalms 9:17

Can you explain what God's word is saying here? We all know that all sinners will die due to Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} and ever since everyone both good and evil are dying, and they are still in their graves until now.
So what is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of this particular verse?

My neighbour, please explain further how the nations will be buried and by whom? NWT translation.

MaxInDHouse:


That's where the understanding is!

The unjust are people who don't know God's standard but lived by what their conscience tolerate. For instance people do commit adultery and fornication in times past but don't know about the God of Israel who abhors such things. People do worship idols in times past but don't know it's wrong yet they lived by conscience. So from God's standpoint they are unrighteous but since they allow their conscience to guide them then God will give them a second chance to know Him.
The righteous are people who knew God's standard and lived by it like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and many others that's why Paul listed their names for us to know those God declared righteous not because they knew Jesus Christ but due to their loyalty towards God's standard that they knew during their lifetime! Hebrews 11:4-32

As for all those destroyed by God Himself they passed directly to everlasting death!

So only the good are awaiting resurrection in God's memory no evildoer will be remembered. I keep quoting this verse but it's like you just chose to ignore it:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. NWT

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. KJV

The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. NIV

Psalms 9:17

Can you explain what God's word is saying here? We all know that all sinners will die due to Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} and ever since everyone both good and evil are dying, and they are still in their graves until now.
So what is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of this particular verse?

To answer your last question, the bible says all have sin. If you say you have no sin, you are a lier.
Then to your first comment, you are clearly adding your personal teachings and doctrines to the bible. It's clear that you have other beliefs outside of the teachings of Christ in the bible. I have no problem with that but you need to state your source

tctrills:

To answer your last question, the bible says all have sin. If you say you have no sin, you are a lier.
Then to your first comment, you are clearly adding your personal teachings and doctrines to the bible. It's clear that you have other beliefs outside of the teachings of Christ in the bible. I have no problem with that but you need to state your source

When a real Christian is talking we speak with authority because we will not leave you without clarification on what the scriptures is saying. Matthew 7:28-29

Since you've agreed that we're all sinners through one man (Adam){Romans 5:12} so it means death will continue to rule in the midst of mankind as king {Romans 5:17} then this clearly shows that we will all be buried (temporarily) until the day of resurrection.
But as for the people that chose to be wicked (deliberately) this simply means they have no regards for God or conscience, therefore God will not raise them back to life during resurrection.
Remember the Bible says Christ will rule for 1,000 years.
Well this means all what Jesus taught will be our guide throughout the earth for 1,000 years , during that time Satan and his demons will be locked up in a state of inactivity where they will not be able to deceive or distract anyone from pure worship! Revelations 20:1-3
So that is what the Bible refer to as the judgment day, it's a period of 1,000 years {2Peter 3:8} in every corner of the earth people will be discussing about what Jesus taught and how to apply it in our lives. Of course some humans will ignore and start their activities all over again, pursuing fleshly desires but because there is no sickness or anybody forcing anyone to obey the global rule such disobedient ones will die after a hundred years of their survival! Isaiah 65:20

So if it's after Christ's 1,000 year reign and destruction of Satan that everlasting life will be declared upon the survivors, then for what purpose do you think people who deliberately chose to be wicked in their past life should be resurrected?

My friend, we are not talking about quoting and arguing blindly but substantiating with reference to hidden secrets in God's word.

But if you're still doubting whether the wicked people who deliberately chose to practice evil will be resurrected, please we don't need to continue arguing fruitlessly. Each person is entitled to his own opinion.

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


The contradictions:

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die. Genesis 2:17


Now the serpent was the most cautious of all the wild animals of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it said to the woman: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” At this the woman said to the serpent: "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”
At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:1-4

Note what Satan said: if they disobey God they will not die!

Whereas life is meant for the obedient while death is meant for the rebellious.
So if we now conclude that both the obedient and rebellious will continue to exist then whose utterance are we echoing, God's or Satan's?

As for Peter he was talking about rebellious angels who were disobedient to God by living their respective positions to come and have sex with female humans {Genesis 6:1-2} these are spirit beings who were disengaged so that they no longer know anything about God's plan, that's why the Bible says they are in dense darkness! Jude 1:6 compare to 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4

The literally dead people are conscious of nothing at all! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Sorry, You said angels came to have sex with humans? Genesis 6.1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose.
I really don't know what bible you are reading.
It says the sons of God not angels. Please you need to tell me if you have a different bible from the rest of us. The bible said sons of God, are you not a son of God?
The Bible never taught that angels come around to have sex with women. Are angels driven with male hormones and organs? And if so, why have angels stopped sleeping with women? Or were they castrated after the flood? I keep saying this let's not add personal narations to bible truths