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Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 11:50pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You are indeed very funny, ...and dishonest. Where did it say body , mind and soul . He is talking about spirit and flesh. Which simply means overcoming the human ego... You don't really know anything..
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Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 12:08am On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:1. Man is made of a mind, body and soul , and according to God, man was created of the clay of this world ... a physical being. 2. Rubbish! Jesus Christ cleared stated there in that context that the only life you get from your mother is a physical one. 5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom. What spirit and flesh and overcoming what ego are you rambling about? Comprehension failing you or somehow? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 12:29am On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:How can all be information be found in Genesis as if the rest of God's declarations are meaningless or something? Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 - 9, the shema reveals man is made of more than just a body. Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11 is God telling of How He sees into the heart of men. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 8:21am On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: So what are the other parts in Deuteronomy 6:4-9. Is heart not a part of the body ? You are just very funny. Why not include hands and legs. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 8:24am On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Man is a spiritual being having a human experience. That is the truth you are expected to discover. I guess I will be casting pearls before swine if I continue...just wallow in your ignorance and do what swines do... Shalom. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 8:29am On Dec 01, 2021 |
Death is just return to default. Whether1 jesus died or 1000 Jesuses, it does not change anything. It will not somehow make God to forgive anybodys sin. We are expected to confess and forsake our evil ways and God will forgive.. Jesus dying shows if anything that he us not God. Death was only decreed for humans. God's don't die. Shalom. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 12:04pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Again, man was created created physical being and is no spiritual than an animal is. He is of the elements of this world and returns to the ground when he dies. Who do you think Jesus Christ labeled the swine ? The one who believes Him or the one who doesn't? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 12:06pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Right there God through His Law revealed that man is composed of more than just the body - he is mind, body and soul, all wrapped up in one. Clearly, God is telling His people there to serve Him not only with their body, but also with their heart as well and mind. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 1:56pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:My friend, the mind is in the brain. Which is part of the body. Man is made up of spirt or breath of God + body made from dust... Just two parents is needed to create a human being. The man provides the sperm(which contains the spirit) that is why genealogy is transferred from father to son and the egg or ova which produces the body. When both combine in the woman's womb a soul is formed. So when God said let us make man in our image after our likeness he was talking to the earth, the earth provided the dust for the body. Thanks.. Learn, unlearn and relearn.. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 1:59pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: What is is fake Jesus saving going by your first paragraph? It means there was never any need for Jesus... Think...some being closed minded. You will only wallow in ignorance. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 2:38pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:1. According to God's own Word, a man is composed of a body, mind and soul - Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 - 9 2. As is written in Genesis 2, and reiterated in John 3 by Jesus Christ, the only life you obtain from being conceived and born from your mother's womb is a physical life, and not a spiritual one. 3. God talked to the earth, and said, "in our image..."? ROFLMAO |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 3:12pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:You brought Jesus Christ into this discussion. Now you insult him because His teachings don't agree with your delusions? And you think me the close-minded ignorant one here? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 4:20pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Lol..man Is made up of God spirit + dust of earth...when he dies spirit returns to God who gave it and the body back to earth. Of what importance is Jesus? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 4:24pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: And you think you are born again... Don't worry when you grow up , you will understand better. Till then just wllow in ignorance |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 4:28pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Again, You brought Jesus Christ into this discussion. Now you insult him because His teachings don't agree with your delusions? And you think me the close-minded ignorant one here? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 4:29pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Again... 1. According to God's own Word, a man is composed of a body, mind and soul - Deuteronomy 6 vs 4 - 9 2. As is written in Genesis 2, and reiterated in John 3 by Jesus Christ, the only life you obtain from being conceived and born from your mother's womb is a physical life, and not a spiritual one. 3. God talked to the earth, and said, "in our image..."? ROFLMAO |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 4:36pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Again..of what importance is he to anything? I follow the commandments of my creator. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 4:39pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:What creator? You mean the one you believe is nothing but a fool for declaring that only those who are of the blood or Jacob can honor Him through obedience of His Old Covenant Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 4:41pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Again where in God's own word is man composed of more than 2 constituents..? That is deuteronomy 6:4-9. So where is your point?
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Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 4:49pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:You need glasses or something? It tells you right there of a heart, soul and strength component to man, does it not. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 7:01pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You are a malu....sorry to say.. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 7:38pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:You pretend as though you have some level of intelligence on these things but the moment it is revealed to you that you don't make sense at all still, you quickly resort of attacking the one you believe is your opponent. You no see say na you be the one here with Malu characteristics? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 8:50pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Do you even read what you type before you click submit? Do they actually remotely make sense to you? |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 9:06pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Your days are numbered....continue to insult the creator.. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 9:21pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
sonmvayina:I am not the one who insults Him,you are since you place yourself above Him this by your rejection His own decree in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 8:19am On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You keep posting passages you have no knowledge of. You sure do need to continue your medication, probably to increase the dose. You are slipping back. You are just not completely recovered. What is there that proves your point... Do you follow God's command like he asked? 1 Like
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Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 3:58pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:I have posted the point of this passage to you at least 5 times and each of the 5 times we have gone through it too. There in the passage God clearly tells you, again, that the agreement He made, not with those of Gentile birth, but instead those born of the blood of Jacob. Gentiles will never taste of inherit of what God has promised only to those of the house of Jacob, no matter how they try to discredit God in this. In a way, you and no different from the JWs who also feel they can lay claim of that belongs to the Israel, only difference is there approach is to claim God gave up on Isreal at some point - a lie ofcourse- whereaz you pretend God made a mistake from the beginning regarding who He made the Old Covenant agreement with. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 5:53pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You are the one calling it old covenant. To the jews who owns it, it is called the Torah and it is for ever. The romans who wanted to deceive you and created the Jesus character are the ones who called it that because they want to add their pagan human sacrifice at the back of the Jewish scriptures...do you care to know why they did that? There is only one creator of all that gave his laws to the whole of humanity...you keep dwelling on the one the jews wrote for themselves... You have to relearn. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 5:57pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Does my referring to it as the Old Covenant Law of Moses change any of what is written in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? Again, There in the passage God clearly tells you, again, that the agreement He made, not with those of Gentile birth, but instead those born of the blood of Jacob. Gentiles will never taste of inherit of what God has promised only to those of the house of Jacob, no matter how they try to discredit God in this. In a way, you and no different from the JWs who also feel they can lay claim of that belongs to the Israel, only difference is there approach is to claim God gave up on Isreal at some point - a lie ofcourse- whereaz you pretend God made a mistake from the beginning regarding who He made the Old Covenant agreement with. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 6:04pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Stop being fixated on the one the jews wrote. It is all propaganda. The way he created the jews is the same way he created Africans. We are all his children. Every human being on earth. He has no favorite. I could write that the igbos are God favorite people in Nigeria, does it mean it is true? God gave all humanity same laws and tradition. They wove a story round the laws and personalized it. You are using it as a standard. I only quote it because it is same as the igbo omenani.. I don't know how else to explain it for you. God detest human sacrifice..it is an abomination. That pagans do it does not mean it is right Learn..again. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by Kobojunkie: 6:28pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:I am beginning to believe you may be struggling from some serious memory issues there cause I have, on more than one occasion, been through and shown how your claim there is bold is not based on any known facts. I remember well going through the omenani with you to show how unlike the Jewish Old Covenant it is in form, ideas and composition. So why you keep repeating this falsehood even after that buggles the mind. It almost reassure me that Truth is not in fact what you seek...almost as if you are more interested in finding more victims to agree with you in your delusion. As for the jews being God's favorite people, that is not what God Himself said. He favored them does not mean they are His favorite. If all you what is to be labeled among God's Favorite, then I suggest you find out what God's Will is, and get to doing that and only that.. |
Re: Death? What Benefit? by sonmvayina(m): 7:59pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Is that not what we are all about. Doing the will of God. Which is simply obey his laws and ommandments. That is what I am doing... But you are not doing it. You are worshipping a man as God which is tantamount to idolatry. You are going through an intermediary which God who is our father has not approved. So Jesus can not be a son if he asked people to disobey God's commandments and laws. He must be a son of another God. I follow my creator. I follow his laws...I sincerely doubt if he will punish me for that. Do you reckon? |
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