Vintagepipes:

........Herein, I reckon comes the connection. The Bonny Igbo ancestors and the Brassmen had a covenant with Brass gods at some point in history.
.......................... See, this is how the Igbani dialect came around.

This your post tallies 100% with the post on the first page(I hope you checked it out). Just go and read that thread. Igbanni is an igbo dialect, unfortunately ijaws are claiming igbos were mere slaves and not the natives. However, I noticed that the book was more like an academic material making references as it was littered with many modern words like Nigeria.

Let me post this for the benefit of ijaws claiming the coast up to ibeno.

Ekealterego:


They are trying to eliminate any trace of Igbo in Bonny people. IYC keeps intruding their threads, threatening them to abandon Igbo language.
You can see that the Ibani people are not having any of that.

Bringing facts here on Nairaland is a right step in the right direction, but more needs to be done. Such as.
1. Inviting Bonny/Opobo people to Igbo the cultural gathering as was the case with the forgotten Ahajioku festival held in Owerri. King Jaja Jeki V used to be a guest.

2. Informing Ohaneze or any Igbo group to open up Igbo associations in Bonny. Getting King Pepple of Bonny and King Jaja of Opobo to endorse these pro-Igbo Ubani unions.

3. Sending an Igbo delegation to visit with Bonny/Opobo.

4. Sponsorship of Igbo language competitions in Bonny/Opobo.

5. Opening of Facebook groups where Igbophilic Bonny/Opobo indigenes are admin. This will help to counter the guerrilla warfare being financed and sponsored by INC/IYC.

6. Supporting Pro-Igbo Bonny/Opobo sons like Dakuku Peterside for Governorship.

7. Sponsoring historians to write the true Bonny Igbo origin history of her Kings and people that will give Alagoa’s fraudulent revision the death knell.

9Pluto:


This your post is tallies 100% with the post on the first page(I hope you checked it out). Just go and read that thread. Igbanni is an igbo dialect, unfortunately ijaws are claiming igbos were mere slaves and not the natives.

I think they are trying to eliminate the identity of everybody in around the Niger Delta. Any small independent group with oil and water are not safe. Except in areas with strong identity, that they do not venture into.

Eastlink:
Bringing facts here on Nairaland is a right step in the right direction, but more needs to be done. Such as.
1. Inviting Bonny/Opobo people to Igbo the cultural gathering as was the case with forgotten Ahajioku festival held in Owerri.
2. Informing Ohaneze or any Igbo group to open up Igbo associations in Bonny. Getting King Pepple of Bonny and King Jaja of Opobo endorse these pro-Igbo Ubani unions.
3. Sending an Igbo delegation to visit with Bonny/Opobo.
4. Sponsorship of Igbo language competitions in Bonny.
5. Opening of Facebook groups where Igbophilic Bonny/Opobo indigenes are admin. This will help to counter the guerrilla warfare being financed and sponsored by INC/IYC.
6. Supporting Pro-Igbo Bonny/Opobo sons like Dakuku Peterside for Governorship.

Truer words, have not been said.

Ekealterego:


They are trying to eliminate any trace of Igbo in Bonny people. IYC keeps intruding their threads, threatening them to abandon Igbo language.
You can see that the Ibani people are not having any of that.

Wow...this is impressive. At least most of them agree they do not need to discard the igbo identity. The main task now is to let them understand, why and how come they are speaking igbo. Their ancestors were not slaves in bonny as claimed, neither was the igbo language the language for trading. they are bona fide pro genies of proud igbo Bonny and Opobo progenitors.

The acclaimed Ebane too is actually the igbo dialect of Bonny as proven by recorded history.

The name bonny is because they referred to themselves as Ebane, other igbos called them obani/ubani while kalabari called them Ibani.

9Pluto:


Wow...this is impressive. At least most of them agree they do not need to discard the igbo identity. The main task now is to let them understand, why and how come they are speaking igbo. Their ancestors were not slaves in bonny as claimed, neither was the igbo language the language for trading. they are bona fide pro genies of proud Bonny and Opobo progenitors.

The acclaimed Ebane too is actually the igbo dialect of Bonny as proven by recorded history.

The name bonny is because the referred to themselves as Ebane, other igbos called them obani/ubani while kalabari called them Ibani.

Exactly. Only that the Ijaws decided to use the Ibani Kalabari called the people as their name. They also went ahead to elevate Kalabari dialect spoken by migrants in Finima as the fraudulent Ibani language that was lost to the real Ubani dialect (Igbo) .

Landlocked dot circle Biafra.

9Pluto:


This book is about 100 years later than the first major historical documentation of Bonny from way back 1798, yet we are still looking for the ijaw connection to Bonny.

At least, we have ascertained that igbos were in Bonny as Kings, Natives and Slaves.

One of them should be bold enough and come to a live debate possibly on BBC.

Fear don catch dem.

If only all the information in this thread is made available to every stratum of Bonny and Opobo, so that these land grabbers will have an impossible task rewriting history

DitariDisciple2:
Landlocked dot circle Biafra.

This is your counter? Some screen shot of Facebook comments?

Internet is a powerful tool in this age. Gradually Bonny and Opobo will learn about themselves, age of propaganda and revision is over.

Eastlink:
Bringing facts here on Nairaland is a right step in the right direction, but more needs to be done. Such as.
1. Inviting Bonny/Opobo people to Igbo the cultural gathering as was the case with the forgotten Ahajioku festival held in Owerri. King Jaja Jeki V used to be a guest.

2. Informing Ohaneze or any Igbo group to open up Igbo associations in Bonny. Getting King Pepple of Bonny and King Jaja of Opobo to endorse these pro-Igbo Ubani unions.

3. Sending an Igbo delegation to visit with Bonny/Opobo.

4. Sponsorship of Igbo language competitions in Bonny/Opobo.

5. Opening of Facebook groups where Igbophilic Bonny/Opobo indigenes are admin. This will help to counter the guerrilla warfare being financed and sponsored by INC/IYC.

6. Supporting Pro-Igbo Bonny/Opobo sons like Dakuku Peterside for Governorship.

7. Sponsoring historians to write the true Bonny Igbo origin history of her Kings and people that will give Alagoa’s fraudulent revision the death knell.

Nnaa iji okwu.

SlayerForever:



Found it.

My memory serves me well. Mostly


https://www.thenewswriterng.com/2012/03/02/igbos-in-bonny-prepare-to-pay-farewell-to-ojukwu-2/


Where is this association today

You seem to have a comprehension problem.If anything,this news piece seem to affirm that Igbos are not indigenous to Bonny.

The report said "Igbo community in Bonny",just as there are Igbo communities in a lot of states in Nigeria.Moreso,the report went on to say Ogbonna admonished the "Igbo community in Bonny" to be of good behaviour during the burial.

Is comprehension such a big deal?

9Pluto:


Please, what is the title of this book.

It is amusing that all historical artefacts points at an obvious ijaw revisionism. I still ask, where were Ijaws when this story of Bonny and Opobo was been documented from way back 1800? Were they so invisible to be documented.

Someone is now so bold to claim Perekule ancestry and trying to supplant the indigenous language.

Ị chọrọ ị perekule m?

OfoIgbo:


Fear don catch dem.

If only all the information in this thread is made available to every stratum of Bonny and Opobo, so that these land grabbers will have an impossible task rewriting history

Mumu.
Their fathers and grandfathers Say they are Ijaws.
Na some mumu for Nairaland dem go listen to.

9Pluto:


Wow...this is impressive. At least most of them agree they do not need to discard the igbo identity. The main task now is to let them understand, why and how come they are speaking igbo. Their ancestors were not slaves in bonny as claimed, neither was the igbo language the language for trading. they are bona fide pro genies of proud igbo Bonny and Opobo progenitors.

The acclaimed Ebane too is actually the igbo dialect of Bonny as proven by recorded history.

The name bonny is because they referred to themselves as Ebane, other igbos called them obani/ubani while kalabari called them Ibani.

I thought you said you are neutral.You just can't help yourself;it was only a matter of time before the bias showed.

Interestingly,all these won't change a thing.I understand all these is propaganda.Tge more you push the more they are resolved to resist.

Let the virtual bragado transcend into reality,only then will you understand.

SlayerForever:



Ị chọrọ ị perekule m?

You have all pretended not to see Captain Pereira's account of the fifteenth century.Nobody countered... �

You'd rather stay in the comfort zone of the 19th century.

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Alabo7978:

you just showed your true colors here.
the Igbo national boundary stopped at the fringes of River state, you crossed several tribes/Aborigines to be the first to settle at a swampy Bonny with mosquitoes etc.
what ever happened to your notions about the igbos staying away from water because of the disease it brings??

the mangroves shall whisper dirges to your ending,
the swamps and the mosquitoes shall swallow you
come and get it and get drowned in the ocean.

[/s]


Ị chọrọ ị perekule m?

9Pluto:


This your post tallies 100% with the post on the first page(I hope you checked it out). Just go and read that thread. Igbanni is an igbo dialect, unfortunately ijaws are claiming igbos were mere slaves and not the natives. However, I noticed that the book was more like an academic material making references as it was littered with many modern words like Nigeria.

Let me post this for the benefit of ijaws claiming The coast up to ibeno.

That map showed that the Ibanis occupied Bonny,so what's new?

Oh...Ibani is an Igbo dialect, that's the new twist.

JANK23H:


You have all pretended not to see Captain Pereira's account of the fifteenth century.Nobody countered... �

You'd rather stay in the comfort zone of the 19th century.

Captain Pereira described the Izon as a thieving race whose territory occupies the area around the western Niger Delta down through to the Sombreibo river. What is our business with that?

SlayerForever:


Captain Pereira described the Izon as a thieving race whose territory occupies the area around the western Niger Delta down through to the Sombreibo river. What is our business with that?

And the Rio Real

Are you scared of saying it?

It's actually Sombrero, don't twist it.Don't lie about that too. Small time una go use am make connections to Igbo

Whether they were thieving (which he didn't say) is not the issue.They occupied it,you can't wish it away.

Vintagepipes:

....Might this be a case of poor comprehension skills?
.....Or general poor education?
..... Just reading a few pages, I could see foreign ethnographers declaring that King People said he is of Igbo descent.

....I wanted to be sure, peherps, they were all bullshit. So I went further to confirm the sources and they were all true. And they have brought multiple account.
Igbo historians didn't write it!

This even led me further to see Oldfield's book.

...Guys, have not even explored Oldfield's "Exploration up the Niger" and Schön's book.

..Sigmund Kölle also added Obane as Igbo speaking.

If I were you, I would meticulously look for where Ejors were credited for holding stakes in those places because from what I can read, even Ibibios should have more stake than Ejors

you see the language similarity and you want A WHITE MAN to spell it out for you
crackling in laughter is the only thing I have for you.

JANK23H:


You have all pretended not to see Captain Pereira's account of the fifteenth century.Nobody countered... �

You'd rather stay in the comfort zone of the 19th century.

Why not post it here, so that even if your opponents do not agree with you other people reading this write ups will find out the truth for themselves.

Mind you everything cannot be said here, that is why we are asking both parties to go and do their research then come to a live debate. Unfortunately, nobody has been able to pick up the challenge including Professor Allagoa's student.

Alabo7978:
you see the language similarity and you want A WHITE MAN to spell it out for you
crackling in laughter is the only thing I have for you.

Binaowei,I always knew these people are liars and cheats,I didn't know it's this deep.My Goodness!

9Pluto:


Why not post it here, so that even if your opponents do not agree with you other people reading this write ups will find out the truth for themselves.

I've posted it 9Pluto don't pretend you didn't see it.

JANK23H:

And the Rio Real

Are you scared of saying it?

It's actually Sombrero, don't twist it.Don't lie about that too. Small time una go use am make connections to Igbo

Whether they were thieving (which he didn't say) is not the issue.They occupied it,you can't wish it away.

The area in question Pereira described stops at part of Kalabari. That is your concern not ours.

SlayerForever:



The area in question Pereira described stops at part of Kalabari. That is your concern not ours.

The Rio Real is the estuary of Bonny River and New Calabar,just before Andonni.It's exactly Bonny.

By the way,I thought you said Kalabari was not Ijo?

JANK23H:

The Rio Real is the estuary of Bonny River and New Calabar,just before Andonni.It's exactly Bonny.

By the way,I thought you said Kalabari was Ijo?

I said it's your business whatever you and they agree on.

Someone should open an Igbophilic Facebook. I don't understand, are the indigenous Bonny and Opobo Igbos not using the internet? Why do they allow these Ijaw people speak for them, even delineating their true born language and calling it nonexistent?

Bonny and Opobo men and women you have a proud history, your forefathers would have rather died than let their language go. That is why they lived in that propserous conclave with the Ijaws at the west and Ibibio at the east. But none of these tribes could influence them, other than that, they influenced them. You can see how your Igbo language or Igbanni language is powerful.

You need to speak for yourself, and the 45 million Igbos would stand for you and you earn your respect as the true born of your lands.
You are not alone dear Bonny and Opobo Igbos, the Igbos would stand and fight for you, you know Igbos, we don't cower from a fight no matter the century wait, we would stand with you till the end. Love you all.

Chukwu gozie gi umunna

DitariDisciple2:
Landlocked dot circle Biafra.

You posted a picture from an "Ijaw Facebook group" to prove what exactly?

ThickSharon123:
Someone should open an Igbophilic Facebook. I don't understand, are the indigenous Bonny and Opobo Igbos not using the internet? Why do they allow these Ijaw people speak for them, even delineating their true born language and calling it nonexistent?

Bonny and Opobo men and women you have a proud history, your forefathers would have rather died than let their language go. That is why they lived in that propserous conclave with the Ijaws at the west and Ibibio at the east. But none of these tribes could influence them, other than that, they influenced them. You can see how your Igbo language or Igbanni language is powerful.

You need to speak for yourself, and the 45 million Igbos would stand for you and you earn your respect as the true born of your lands.
You are not alone dear Bonny and Opobo Igbos, the Igbos would stand and fight for you, you know Igbos, we don't cower from a fight no matter the century wait, we would stand with you till the end. Love you all.

Chukwu gozie gi umunna

That's because they are Ijaws,there are several here who have identified themselves.None of them have come online to say they are Igbos.That should tell you something.

European and African Tradition on the Rio Real
G. I. Jones

JANK23H:

That's because they are Ijaws,there are several here who have identified themselves.None of them have come online to say they are Igbos.That should tell you something.

Sweetheart, we do see some of them, but you people have taken them as minority at the coast. Most of the people shouting "I am Opobo and a proud Ijaw" are actually from Bayelsa or Delta Ijaw.

My dear, we aren't that dumb. Stop decieving yourself. You shout you're an Ijaw here and you go to the village and they speak Igbo.

There are videos online about Bonny and Opobo and even Nembe and the normal people or elders speaks pure, unadulterated Igbo.

Please, you can't tell me those tales of the moonlight.

PS: I have heard what your general Boro did to these people. But he couldn't wipe them out completely. How sad don't you think?

ThickSharon123:
Someone should open an Igbophilic Facebook. I don't understand, are the indigenous Bonny and Opobo Igbos not using the internet? Why do they allow these Ijaw people speak for them, even delineating their true born language and calling it nonexistent?

Bonny and Opobo men and women you have a proud history, your forefathers would have rather died than let their language go. That is why they lived in that propserous conclave with the Ijaws at the west and Ibibio at the east. But none of these tribes could influence them, other than that, they influenced them. You can see how your Igbo language or Igbanni language is powerful.

You need to speak for yourself, and the 45 million Igbos would stand for you and you earn your respect as the true born of your lands.
You are not alone dear Bonny and Opobo Igbos, the Igbos would stand and fight for you, you know Igbos, we don't cower from a fight no matter the century wait, we would stand with you till the end. Love you all.

Chukwu gozie gi umunna

Mumu.
Till today,
Bonny and Opobo are in all Ijaw socia-cultural organizations, without leaving even one behind that they are not in, but till today, not even one Ibo own they are in.