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Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by greatiyk4u(m): 6:22pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
So any accident that claim 5 lives na massacre? Suddenly, you created on your own imagination 5 as a benchmark for many. Smart by half 1 Like |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 10:15pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
greatiyk4u:Abeg no vex o... But does your post even make sense to you? Equating killing to accident? I'm beginning to get scared of the future of this country with the type of posts I see on this thread. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 11:26am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: Even the one the claimed mother had iron bar sticking out if his eye is also a killing by military assault rifle? Adding this to your tally shows the story is not reliable neither is your count. 1 Like |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 11:38am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: This where you miss the road. The investigation of incident at Lekki toll gate was trying to establish is soldiers shot live bullets as claimed by protester or blanks as the army claimed. There was a subsisting govt order of curfew and anyone remaining outside was a threat to public peace. If no laws prevents soldiers from being deployed to restore order you can't hold them responsible for injuries sustained while fleeing such as vehicle accident, fall from height, being trampled by crowd or shooting by armed gangs who displayed guns during the protest. When law and order breaks down, any adult should know your safest place should be in your home not on the streets |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 12:13pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: Wisdom, Tola, Uche are they names of human or pets? I know every human at least in Nigeria have a surname, family or orphanage where they were raised. Only dogs and cats have no surname. What type of injury did this wisdom and Tola have? Which type of gun fired the bullets if they had such injury? How do we know they didn't get killed when they were storming police station at Orile or Ajangbadi when they went to kill policemen, steal police uniforms and guns? Who killed the 35 policemen who lost their lives in Lagos? The panel report did not list a single policeman who was injured or killed and deserved compensation. Is that not part of their terms of reference? What of the looting and arson of homes that has altered some lives permanently? Is that panel report really reliable? I think not, it was a dishonest attempt to assert what it cant prove 1 Like |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by HappyPagan: 12:31pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008:Who are these five people? Can you name them? The governor confirmed one death and if was as a result of a 'blow to the head's, not a bullet wound. Who is this mom of three? Do you know her, or the children she lost? Did they live in isolation, far away from humans such that no one else speaks on their behalf? 2 Likes |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:49pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Ovamboland: Do you know that as long as we want to believe what we believe, there is a great tendency to be narrow minded and that I have seen with lots of comments on this thread. I guess it will come as a shock to many that it takes the killing of just 5 people for a massacre to be established which runs contrary to the mindset of many who see massacre as the killing of hundreds of people. Please believe whatever you want of it will make you sleep well at night. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:51pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
HappyPagan: Your narrow mindedness is your problem. If you are too closed minded to read what I wrote you will kno wthe governor confirmed 2 not one and the other story corroborates the fact that over 5 people died |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by HappyPagan: 1:53pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008:Thanks for knowing my problem. Please answer my questions. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:54pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Lalasticlala let's have people's input nah abi una dey fear lol? Happy Sunday. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:56pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
HappyPagan: What stupid and lame questions? Did you even read the write up before making your lame comments. Go back and read again, comprehend then ask reasonable questions in line with what I wrote and I will respond accordingly. You are so closed minded and I don't waste my time with closed minded people. They are toxic to themselves because they will never be objective and open minded to see the truth even if they are faced with undisputed evidences.. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by HappyPagan: 2:00pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008:May the family of the deceased reward and bless you for the amazing work you have done on this thread. There is no doubt now in my mind that a massacre happened. God bless you. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 2:21pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
HappyPagan: If this is sarcasm or real I care less. I have made it clear, I defined what a massacre is and I went further to explain the word "many" and killing. I further made it clear with links to back up the stories that proved beyond doubt that not less than 5 died directly or indirectly as a result of the shooting by security operatives.. What else is there to prove? That because people were not killed in their hundreds so it is not a massacre but just minor deaths.. Come of it. Have a great day. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 3:59pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Great2017: You think you're not one sided when you belive people who claim there was a massacre and shared drama footages, movie pictures and claimed the locations were at Lekki toll gate. They shared traffic accident picture with mutilated bodies and claimed they were shot by soldiers. Tens of protesters claimed a body wrapped in bloody Nigerian flag is their cousin, reality is it was a drama. Did they all prepare the drama pictures before the military arrived the scene? Or they got it after they were cleared from the toll gate. How do you trust such eye witnesses? You have not expressed any concern about all these inconsistencies
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Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 7:25pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
helinues: That's what should tell you the person you responded to lacks the depth to discuss the subject matter 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Great2017: 7:26pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Ovamboland: Can you show me where I believed or accepted those claims? Anyway, I cannot help if you are hurt by those observation of mine. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 7:45pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: And your proof of 5 is one woman said I saw 3 dead? Sanwo said 2 died. What killed them is of no importance. Whether they fell while jumping a fence is immaterial too you. You made your magical number 5 and poof, there's a massacre You're a good indication we truly have a serious problem on our hands, a ticking time bomb |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 7:54pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
yorubarere: Do we have a pathologist report on Wisdom , Tola and what killed them? Are they make, female or pets? Who identified them as Wisdom, Tola? We should even ignore those names listed as presumed dead. It's not worth talking about beyond saying it's a shame on the reporters |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 8:22pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: I'm not even contesting your number 5 magical number. It's your threshold of evidence to arrive at 5 deaths im still questioning. Who drove iron bar through the eyes of the victim that mother claimed? Soldiers? |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 8:25pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008: What killed those 2 the governor confirmed dead? You're avoiding to address this deliberately. The governor said it was blunt force trauma, do military bullets cause blunt force? What did the autopsy report on these 2 say? Do care what it says? |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 8:33pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Ovamboland: I asked you not to force me to call you olodo but now I can see you are worse than that. Your problem is your closed mindedness else you would have comprehended that what ever death occurred directly or indirectly as a result of shooting of balnk or live ammunition is attributed to the primary action. So whether people died as a result of stampede, blunt trauma or even those who died at the carnal while fleeing from the shooting were all attributed to the shooting I have chosen not to respond to any satanic stance made by anyone as regards the fact that at least 5 people died. One thing I only feel like doing is laying a curse on them that if indeed nit less than 5 people died, that the fate of these people will visit their families so that they will realize that the dead one one child to a parent is worse than a massacre to them. I rest my case |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by yorubarere: 8:37pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Ovamboland:The panel did a very bad job. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by asanausana91: 9:23pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
Toks2008:massacre occurred in your house not in my country. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Akanbiedu(m): 9:47pm On Dec 05, 2021 |
rayvelez: America knows |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 7:18pm On Dec 06, 2021 |
Toks2008: You're obviously ret.arded and this is a pointless thread. So even if it was siren that made some protesters jump in the river and drown or they fell while fleeing on Okada on sighting soldiers then we should hold the Army responsible. Kindergarten kids have risen above your level of thinking. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 8:54pm On Dec 06, 2021 |
Ovamboland: I will make the same prayer for you. It truly at least 5 people died as a result of the shooting either of live or blank bullets... The same fate will befall you and your entire household. If you can not say AMEN to this then your case is settled. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 9:01pm On Dec 06, 2021 |
Toks2008: Did I not say it that you're not developed to the intellect level of a kindergarten? |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Oceemo(m): 12:14am On Dec 07, 2021 |
Toks2008:I have been reading comments and I see you are the one who is the the foolish one here and you have resort to only insults which peeps like you knows how to do to drive home your lies I have seen so many diplomatic questions they asked & u dodging it with foul words and insult, my conclusion is that u should be the one to hide your head in between your smelling thighs instead of insulting learned peeps here And for my learned comrades here it's enough u can't force a pig out of mud so let the myopic op be please. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:36am On Dec 07, 2021 |
Oceemo: Guy se i am an intellectually sound mind and check everyone i lashed out at and go back to read their initial post that elicited my response. I have zero tolerance for people who just attack a writer and not the subject and that you have also done so i don't see you as well as your ''learned'' colleagues as reasonable. When you lot learn how to discuss issues like ''learned'' people then i will be more than willing to have a logical discussion. If you are as learned as you claim to be, you would have taken time out to read the post i created, comprehend and then give your submission but just like your ''learned'' colleagues, you are closed minded and a closed minded person is the worst type of person to have an objective discussion with. II think you should go back and study the meaning of the word ''LEARNED'' cos the only thing you have showcased with your lame post is Foolishness of epic proportion. If your so-called learned colleagues are indeed learned, they wont be asking me any ''diplomatic'' questions cos the answer is in the write up which they have chosen not to read and comprehend. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Toks2008(m): 1:44am On Dec 07, 2021 |
Ovamboland: Now look at this comment from one of the assumed ''learned colleagues' is the embolden even worth responding to? Who asks such a lame question? If this ''Learned' comrade took time to read my post he would have come across the definition of the word KILL which can be defined as an action that directly causes death or that indirectly leads to death of a living thing. And there wont be any need for him to write that very lame post equating shooting to sighting of soldiers. This goes to show how closed minded people can be so much that they will write just anything no matter how lame it sounds to justify their position. |
Re: A deeper look at the word ''Massacre''. A Nairalander's Perspective. by Ovamboland(m): 2:53pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Toks2008: This is not you? So whether people died as a result of stampede, blunt trauma or even those who died at the carnal while fleeing from the shooting were all attributed to the shooting Why is it that lies and deceit comes easily to this generation? Toks2008: |
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