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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ehisod(m): 11:56am On Nov 22, 2021
@EFCCGbenga, how do you intend to assist in this matter? Any history of handling a case successfully for a Nairalander previously?

Ehisod:
Here are the account details
0032783183
GTB
Okedara Adewole

Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 1:54pm On Nov 22, 2021
Ehisod:
@EFCCGbenga, how do you intend to assist in this matter? Any history of handling a case successfully for a Nairalander previously?


Do whatever you can to help yourself bro.

EFCC Gbenga Na cruise.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by joetoocute: 1:59pm On Nov 22, 2021
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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Kreamie(m): 2:17pm On Nov 22, 2021
Take this down sir. This isn’t the place for this bro
joetoocute:

Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Ehisod(m): 4:03pm On Nov 22, 2021
grin grin grin grin grin

Auskyd:


Do whatever you can to help yourself bro.

EFCC Gbenga Na cruise.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by EFCCgbenga: 7:57pm On Nov 22, 2021
Auskyd:


Do whatever you can to help yourself bro.

EFCC Gbenga Na cruise.

Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by EFCCgbenga: 7:58pm On Nov 22, 2021
Ehisod:
grin grin grin grin grin

kk
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 8:27pm On Nov 22, 2021
[quote author=EFCCgbenga post=107868581][/quote]

Doesn't change the fact that you be low-key cruise master for this website.

E sure you, drop real name and where you're posted.

Let's pay a visit and know if you be real or not.

Fake EFCC lmao

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by wese90(m): 4:53pm On Nov 30, 2021
Kreamie:
Take this down sir. This isn’t the place for this bro

Edit the quote
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by AquaSpunky(m): 8:17pm On Dec 02, 2021
Update

Good evening, folks.

I promised to update us with regards to @donj2005.
He is NOT legit. He, alongside one @Sureguy & @Divo scammed people here & offline to the tune of 150 Million naira.

Below is a link that confirms my assertion.
Please do NOT have any business with him.
His real name is Adio Moses & he is currently at Large; others have been remanded in prison today.

https://newsdishng.com/court-remands-two-men-over-alleged-n150m-fraud-another-for-n48-064m-fraud/

Moderators, please take note.

AquaSpunky:
Hello, everyone.

All deals with @donj2005 (driftking) should be on hold.
He has scores to settle with a lot of people.
Hefty sum is involved. Deal with him at your own risk.
If he eventually settles all, i will update it here & clear his name.
Moderators should take note.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 8:39pm On Dec 02, 2021
EFCCgbenga please we need your expertise here abeg.

You can help us track those guys and forever prove to us you aren't a fraud yourself sir.

I come in peace.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by omotolsy(m): 10:01pm On Dec 02, 2021
Soo painful
Soo painful
Soo painful

God will give the grace to bounce back from such a loss.
AquaSpunky:
Update

Good evening, folks.

I promised to update us with regards to @donj2005.
He is NOT legit. He, alongside one @Sureguy & @Divo scammed people here & offline to the tune of 150 Million naira.

Below is a link that confirms my assertion.
Please do NOT have any business with him.
His real name is Adio Moses & he is currently at Large; others have been remanded in prison today.

https://newsdishng.com/court-remands-two-men-over-alleged-n150m-fraud-another-for-n48-064m-fraud/

Moderators, please take note.

Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Jamesilvar(m): 4:10am On Dec 03, 2021
AquaSpunky:
Update

Good evening, folks.

I promised to update us with regards to @donj2005.
He is NOT legit. He, alongside one @Sureguy & @Divo scammed people here & offline to the tune of 150 Million naira.

Below is a link that confirms my assertion.
Please do NOT have any business with him.
His real name is Adio Moses & he is currently at Large; others have been remanded in prison today.

https://newsdishng.com/court-remands-two-men-over-alleged-n150m-fraud-another-for-n48-064m-fraud/

Moderators, please take note.


Na wao. Things dey happen o
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by xplora98(m): 1:06pm On Dec 15, 2021
My people good afternoon, please I've been having issues trying to login to offerup.com but it doesn't go through, I even changed my vpn to nord and still no positive response, I'll really appreciate if anyone can help on this, thanks.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by EFCCgbenga: 3:39pm On Dec 27, 2021
Merry Christmas, hope we having a scam free end of year.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 5:21pm On Dec 27, 2021
EFCCgbenga:
Merry Christmas, hope we having a scam free end of year.

We dey tag you since to come chook mouth for issues, you run.

Na wa oh. So much for being an EFCC official.

EFCC isonu
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Kreamie(m): 6:07pm On Dec 27, 2021
Leave this wo/man. Na cruise.
Auskyd:


We dey tag you since to come chook mouth for issues, you run.

Na wa oh. So much for being an EFCC official.

EFCC isonu
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 6:55pm On Dec 27, 2021
Kreamie:
Leave this wo/man. Na cruise.

Yes boss. Send address make I come chop new year rice and chicken biko
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by EFCCgbenga: 7:46pm On Dec 27, 2021
Auskyd:


We dey tag you since to come chook mouth for issues, you run.

Na wa oh. So much for being an EFCC official.

EFCC isonu

I didn't receive such tag, are you sure you got my Id right?

Point me to the issues
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Kreamie(m): 9:14pm On Dec 27, 2021
LOL.

The ones they tagged you on, what have you done about them? Rest bro.
EFCCgbenga:


I didn't receive such tag, are you sure you got my Id right?

Point me to the issues
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 10:42pm On Dec 27, 2021
Kreamie:
LOL.

The ones they tagged you on, what have you done about them? Rest bro.

Uncle get selective amnesia for this kind of thing.

Na to use true caller dey look for names to impress e sabi.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by wildchild1: 3:52pm On Dec 31, 2021
To God be the glory for a successful business year, congratulations to everyone of us here. Wishing us all a happy new year.

This is a little reflection on some challenges faced by all deal hunters, buyers, sellers and middlemen here that pickers should please adjust on and i feel it would be good to discuss it because dialogue they say is the best way to solving issues. I would be talking about the exorbitant and outrageous charges by some pickers/shippers. The idea of charging 5% or 10% on pick up fee for items above $500 $700 or $1000 is not right, you are stealing from the deal hunter who has toiled night and day to find a good deal. . I spoke with all pickers/shippers here that i have personal relationship with and they make me understand the risk of exchanging money, distance covered and how hard it is getting dollars which is quite understand. But you see in this business, we all have to be flexible and reasonable, what is the essence of a job you are doing and people are cursing you at the back?

Like i told all the shippers/pickers i spoke with, people doing bulk pick ups (say 6/7 items and above) should be discounted. YES!!! If you cant discount them, do not charge them any % or anything extra if there's gonna be extra charges, let it be light. This is because as you're using huge $$ for the pick up, you will be shipping more than 7 items too which is more profitable for you as a picker, its simple logic. The truth is when someone finds a good deal after searching offer up overnight or even days, these extra % charged by pickers reduce the profit of the person but adds significantly to the picker. Imagine picking up 17 phones for say 7K and picker is charging you $500-600 pick up fee while he/she will still collect (25*15 = $425) as shipping fee, that's outrageous and inhumane. I'm not the one who looks into anybody's business or profit, this is era of internet, we all know how much it cost to ship from USA to Nigeria per item (i'll just leave it at that).

Pickers hardly run at loss, i stand to be corrected here too, emphasis on hardly, the odds are usually in their favour, deal hunters/buyers bear most of the risks. From items having MDM, to bad speaker, network failure, panic full, and roughness of items to mention a few. Even the waiting time for items to land, Its very hard on us doing business from Nigeria, the time zone alone is killing for some of us who have 9-5. I remember at a time i had 2 full time jobs and i still have to keep up with offer up sellers and supplier. I know more than 10 people that have quit offer up because they ran into loses, i am yet to see any picker quit because of the risks involved.

One of the things i notice with most pickers is that they think people patronizing them cant help them, that they (as pickers) are the only one that can help us. The reality of life is that once you start seeing yourself as the only person that can help someone, it get into your head and you start misbehaving. As a picker, you might not need help from us today but tomorrow fit come make you need help, nobody fit operate alone, so i'm begging all our pickers to please find a very good and reasonable solution to this issue of pick up rate and pick up fee. In my humble knowledge, no pick up fee should be more than 150-200 as long as the items are much, its always a win win situation.

PS: To the big boys who are pickers friend, please help us dialogue with them too, if you dey get discount from demn, make dem extend good discount to us wey be small boys too abeg, the rates are killing...E choke gan.

Nobody is perfect, we learn everyday to be better, my own dey my body too, make God help person. Happy new year once again.

Lionlee216 and friends
Daaz001
Yalhaji
Bukiemore
Abfal
Emanu and friends
Titi
Kreamie
Rakiticbarca
Sobastical
Omicpet
Idboystic
Temihatz
Visita
omotolsy
Timijoseph
Dthinkerman
atoje
Tydghost
webfocus
D4donnn
Chelseamann
.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by dannybrasky(m): 4:29pm On Dec 31, 2021
wildchild1:
To God be the glory for a successful business year, congratulations to everyone of us here. Wishing us all a happy new year.

This is a little reflection on some challenges faced by all deal hunters, buyers, sellers and middlemen here that pickers should please adjust on and i feel it would be good to discuss it because dialogue they say is the best way to solving issues. I would be talking about the exorbitant and outrageous charges by some pickers/shippers. The idea of charging 5% or 10% on pick up fee for items above $500 $700 or $1000 is not right, you are stealing from the deal hunter who has toiled night and day to find a good deal. . I spoke with all pickers/shippers here that i have personal relationship with and they make me understand the risk of exchanging money, distance covered and how hard it is getting dollars which is quite understand. But you see in this business, we all have to be flexible and reasonable, what is the essence of a job you are doing and people are cursing you at the back?


.

Well said wildchild1,you voiced out for many.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by lionlee216(m): 4:43pm On Dec 31, 2021
Uncle WildChild1,

Let me start from the 5% to 10% thing. I know I was once guilty of this but I also did it to protect myself. You(I am using YOU as a general word) will bring a dropoff of $1000 and you will expect me to charge you $20 for drop off, business wise, its profitable to you, to me, it’s a huge LOSS. As at yesterday, Black market rate was 565/$. GTB dorm card can only get you $1000 per day and at the ATM, You can only get $800 at a go which comes with a charge of $4 per withdrawal. Meaning you can only withdraw $990 in a day with a charge of $8. $1000 was deposited from Nigeria but you got only $990 here. That’s a $10 loss already. Now I didn’t factor you will be running those errands for you in Nigeria, It wont be done for free. So do you now think you will bring a drop off $1000 and ill accept $20 as drop off fee? NO.
If I see a pickup of 12pro max of $650 coming with a pickup fee of $50, I will sure neglect the $1000 drop off and do the pickup because truthfully at the end of the day, its strictly business. For those that had/have done bulk pickup from me, once I see the money will take all my dollars, its either I decline or I charge you 7 to 8% even when I see the pickup fee is much, then I do give option like lets say your item fee is $7,000, I can let you pay maybe 5000$ into my dorm account and I’ll then charge you pickup fee on $2000. You wildchild1 can testify to it. Those charging 10%, legally did they do something wrong? NO! like I said its business.

SECONDLY as regards to shipping fees, for phones, I have been charging $20/phone and it has never gone beyond that. I really don’t think this should be an issue debating the shipping fees cos people have paid lot more for phone shipping with mikky with no complains, I know how much Clone20 was charging when he was doing pickups. Some people said they know how much to ship from US to Nigeria and its way less, some said they charge $10 per phone, which is fine but remember some companies do consolidation but no company will open your package, take out like 10 phones and start wrapping them for you one after the other. Your $20 shipping fee(from lionlee) includes buble wrapping, shipping fee, customs and insurance. I can do $10 shipping for you if I will ship your phone just like that. No buble wraps nothing. You get what you paid for. For those that have travelled internationally, even airline will ask you if you want protection on your ticket etc.

With all being said, when a picker is charging you all these fees, remember the cost of living in each states, the Gas fee in LA is very expensive compared to Chicago and fuel fee in Chicago is expensive compared to Indiana. All these you have to put into consideration but then you have two options : its either YOU DO or YOU DON’T!

Picker run at loss and the loss is always heavy when it happens. If all the pickers start telling their stories, then you will understand.

Lastly, Most of you guys deserve the kind of treatment you getting from most Pickers. Most of you are a$$lickers. I remember one guy telling me to my face that its either Mikkyangel or nothing, when he got served breakfast, the story changed. Some of you will approach for pickers and say “Pls I need to this pickup, start praising them how the picker has been the savior of their families lives blah blah blah” be begging. I have never seen a person go to a car dealership and be begging them with their money but you guys, its something else. The picker that has been doing nice to you, the moment there is a little mistake in a gadget being picked, the next you will hear is full refund, how you have sold the items to someone else without even reaching a common ground. The Picker becomes cold to you and then, next thing you hear is Mikky is very arrogant, shola is that. Then you start looking for payback. You start contacting people so that you can find another picker in the same state in a bid for u to do payback to the picker. Another picker shows up, you start praising him, telling the picker how mikky stole your deal, how lionlee did that. You start praising them as your Messaiah, The new picker sees your weakness, exploit you then you start wailing again. The first picker meets with the second picker, they come to a common ground and roll prices on you, then you are stuck. Most of you make those Pickers the way they are.

I will say this boldly because I am very sure and know very well. When Stanley came on board, He was shipping for less, less pickup fee, I know about daaz clients that went to him(Stanley) and be doing pickups there, when I heard from at least 3 people that he was stealing people’s suppliers and deals and the loss were too much, You now had no choice than to either to return to Mikky or Daaz and those you plan on returning to, you have already said bad things about them. Now you go to Mikky, he ignores you, you go to Daaz for 10k$ pickup, he said bring $1500 or he doesn’t have dollars, then you start complaining.
Some of you will even send the same deal to 2 different pickers, to you its strictly business because you want the faster hands to pickup the deal but in the process you are wasting their time too.

I even heard some pickers steal your deals and for the fear of them not picking for you again, you keep quiet! SUFFERING AND SMILING. When a picker steals your deal, take him to dispute thread, Scream his name! if he blocks you and you cant do without him, get a new whatsapp and continue your business with him but only a fool deals with a picker that is stealing from you.


STOP SEEING PICKERS AS YOUR MESSIAH. NO PICKER IS YOUR MESSIAH. AS YOU ARE SMILING TO THEM TO HELP YOU PICK ITEMS SO YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, THE SAME WAY THEY SMILING TO YOU SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY OFF YOU. IF YOU LIKE LICK THEIR FEET TILL TOMORROW, IT CHANGES NOTHING! THOSE OF YOU LICKING THEIR A$$ES, HOW MARKET TODAY?.

Shalom!

cc daaz001

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by wildchild1: 4:50pm On Dec 31, 2021
dannybrasky:


Well said wildchild1,you voiced out for many.

Danny e reach your side too? Omo the rates wan send person go village oo cry cry cry
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Teejay13(m): 4:55pm On Dec 31, 2021
wildchild1:
To God be the glory for a successful business year, congratulations to everyone of us here. Wishing us all a happy new year.

This is a little reflection on some challenges faced by all deal hunters, buyers, sellers and middlemen here that pickers should please adjust on and i feel it would be good to discuss it because dialogue they say is the best way to solving issues. I would be talking about the exorbitant and outrageous charges by some pickers/shippers. The idea of charging 5% or 10% on pick up fee for items above $500 $700 or $1000 is not right, you are stealing from the deal hunter who has toiled night and day to find a good deal. . I spoke with all pickers/shippers here that i have personal relationship with and they make me understand the risk of exchanging money, distance covered and how hard it is getting dollars which is quite understand. But you see in this business, we all have to be flexible and reasonable, what is the essence of a job you are doing and people are cursing you at the back?

Like i told all the shippers/pickers i spoke with, people doing bulk pick ups (say 6/7 items and above) should be discounted. YES!!! If you cant discount them, do not charge them any % or anything extra if there's gonna be extra charges, let it be light. This is because as you're using huge $$ for the pick up, you will be shipping more than 7 items too which is more profitable for you as a picker, its simple logic. The truth is when someone finds a good deal after searching offer up overnight or even days, these extra % charged by pickers reduce the profit of the person but adds significantly to the picker. Imagine picking up 17 phones for say 7K and picker is charging you $500-600 pick up fee while he/she will still collect (25*15 = $425) as shipping fee, that's outrageous and inhumane. I'm not the one who looks into anybody's business or profit, this is era of internet, we all know how much it cost to ship from USA to Nigeria per item (i'll just leave it at that).

Pickers hardly run at loss, i stand to be corrected here too, emphasis on hardly, the odds are usually in their favour, deal hunters/buyers bear most of the risks. From items having MDM, to bad speaker, network failure, panic full, and roughness of items to mention a few. Even the waiting time for items to land, Its very hard on us doing business from Nigeria, the time zone alone is killing for some of us who have 9-5. I remember at a time i had 2 full time jobs and i still have to keep up with offer up sellers and supplier. I know more than 10 people that have quit offer up because they ran into loses, i am yet to see any picker quit because of the risks involved.

One of the things i notice with most pickers is that they think people patronizing them cant help them, that they (as pickers) are the only one that can help us. The reality of life is that once you start seeing yourself as the only person that can help someone, it get into your head and you start misbehaving. As a picker, you might not need help from us today but tomorrow fit come make you need help, nobody fit operate alone, so i'm begging all our pickers to please find a very good and reasonable solution to this issue of pick up rate and pick up fee. In my humble knowledge, no pick up fee should be more than 150-200 as long as the items are much, its always a win win situation.

PS: To the big boys who are pickers friend, please help us dialogue with them too, if you dey get discount from demn, make dem extend good discount to us wey be small boys too abeg, the rates are killing...E choke gan.

Nobody is perfect, we learn everyday to be better, my own dey my body too, make God help person. Happy new year once again.

Lionlee216 and friends
Daaz001
Yalhaji
Bukiemore
Abfal
Emanu and friends
Titi
Kreamie
Rakiticbarca
Sobastical
Omicpet
Idboystic
Temihatz
Visita
omotolsy
Timijoseph
Dthinkerman
atoje
Tydghost
webfocus
D4donnn
Chelseamann
.

You have just spoken well wildchild1 and to some extent, I think you have just captured some of our personal thoughts with your piece.

But there is one more thing which I think you did not mention, which is the issue of some pickers/shippers not picking calls or responding to DMs.

Like you highlighted above, no one knows tomorrow. We might just be needing each other someday.

Compliment of the season to all NL. May the year 2022 bring forth more blessings and increase to our struggles.

I leave you all in peace.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by sauceEEP(m): 4:58pm On Dec 31, 2021
grin angry
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Auskyd(m): 5:09pm On Dec 31, 2021
lionlee216:
Uncle WildChild1,

Let me start from the 5% to 10% thing. I know I was once guilty of this but I also did it to protect myself. You(I am using YOU as a general word) will bring a dropoff of $1000 and you will expect me to charge you $20 for drop off, business wise, its profitable to you, to me, it’s a huge LOSS. As at yesterday, Black market rate was 565/$. GTB dorm card can only get you $1000 per day and at the ATM, You can only get $800 at a go which comes with a charge of $4 per withdrawal. Meaning you can only withdraw $990 in a day with a charge of $8. $1000 was deposited from Nigeria but you got only $990 here. That’s a $10 loss already. Now I didn’t factor you will be running those errands for you in Nigeria, It wont be done for free. So do you now think you will bring a drop off $1000 and ill accept $20 as drop off fee? NO.
If I see a pickup of 12pro max of $650 coming with a pickup fee of $50, I will sure neglect the $1000 drop off and do the pickup because truthfully at the end of the day, its strictly business. For those that had/have done bulk pickup from me, once I see the money will take all my dollars, its either I decline or I charge you 7 to 8% even when I see the pickup fee is much, then I do give option like lets say your item fee is $7,000, I can let you pay maybe 5000$ into my dorm account and I’ll then charge you pickup fee on $2000. You wildchild1 can testify to it. Those charging 10%, legally did they do something wrong? NO! like I said its business.

SECONDLY as regards to shipping fees, for phones, I have been charging $20/phone and it has never gone beyond that. I really don’t think this should be an issue debating the shipping fees cos people have paid lot more for phone shipping with mikky with no complains, I know how much Clone20 was charging when he was doing pickups. Some people said they know how much to ship from US to Nigeria and its way less, some said they charge $10 per phone, which is fine but remember some companies do consolidation but no company will open your package, take out like 10 phones and start wrapping them for you one after the other. Your $20 shipping fee(from lionlee) includes buble wrapping, shipping fee, customs and insurance. I can do $10 shipping for you if I will ship your phone just like that. No buble wraps nothing. You get what you paid for. For those that have travelled internationally, even airline will ask you if you want protection on your ticket etc.

With all being said, when a picker is charging you all these fees, remember the cost of living in each states, the Gas fee in LA is very expensive compared to Chicago and fuel fee in Chicago is expensive compared to Indiana. All these you have to put into consideration but then you have two options : its either YOU DO or YOU DON’T!

Picker run at loss and the loss is always heavy when it happens. If all the pickers start telling their stories, then you will understand.

Lastly, Most of you guys deserve the kind of treatment you getting from most Pickers. Most of you are a$$lickers. I remember one guy telling me to my face that its either Mikkyangel or nothing, when he got served breakfast, the story changed. Some of you will approach for pickers and say “Pls I need to this pickup, start praising them how the picker has been the savior of their families lives blah blah blah” be begging. I have never seen a person go to a car dealership and be begging them with their money but you guys, its something else. The picker that has been doing nice to you, the moment there is a little mistake in a gadget being picked, the next you will hear is full refund, how you have sold the items to someone else without even reaching a common ground. The Picker becomes cold to you and then, next thing you hear is Mikky is very arrogant, shola is that. Then you start looking for payback. You start contacting people so that you can find another picker in the same state in a bid for u to do payback to the picker. Another picker shows up, you start praising him, telling the picker how mikky stole your deal, how lionlee did that. You start praising them as your Messaiah, The new picker sees your weakness, exploit you then you start wailing again. The first picker meets with the second picker, they come to a common ground and roll prices on you, then you are stuck. Most of you make those Pickers the way they are.

I will say this boldly because I am very sure and know very well. When Stanley came on board, He was shipping for less, less pickup fee, I know about daaz clients that went to him(Stanley) and be doing pickups there, when I heard from at least 3 people that he was stealing people’s suppliers and deals and the loss were too much, You now had no choice than to either to return to Mikky or Daaz and those you plan on returning to, you have already said bad things about them. Now you go to Mikky, he ignores you, you go to Daaz for 10k$ pickup, he said bring $1500 or he doesn’t have dollars, then you start complaining.
Some of you will even send the same deal to 2 different pickers, to you its strictly business because you want the faster hands to pickup the deal but in the process you are wasting their time too.

I even heard some pickers steal your deals and for the fear of them not picking for you again, you keep quiet! SUFFERING AND SMILING. When a picker steals your deal, take him to dispute thread, Scream his name! if he blocks you and you cant do without him, get a new whatsapp and continue your business with him but only a fool deals with a picker that is stealing from you.


STOP SEEING PICKERS AS YOUR MESSIAH. NO PICKER IS YOUR MESSIAH. AS YOU ARE SMILING TO THEM TO HELP YOU PICK ITEMS SO YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, THE SAME WAY THEY SMILING TO YOU SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY OFF YOU. IF YOU LIKE LICK THEIR FEET TILL TOMORROW, IT CHANGES NOTHING! THOSE OF YOU LICKING THEIR A$$ES, HOW MARKET TODAY?.

Shalom!

cc daaz001

Baba, you sabi explain things abeg. I dey read this thing like storybook. So engaging.

You really try for the explanations, tbh.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by sammysticks: 5:11pm On Dec 31, 2021
wildchild1:
To God be the glory for a successful business year, congratulations to everyone of us here. Wishing us all a happy new year.

This is a little reflection on some challenges faced by all deal hunters, buyers, sellers and middlemen here that pickers should please adjust on and i feel it would be good to discuss it because dialogue they say is the best way to solving issues. I would be talking about the exorbitant and outrageous charges by some pickers/shippers. The idea of charging 5% or 10% on pick up fee for items above $500 $700 or $1000 is not right, you are stealing from the deal hunter who has toiled night and day to find a good deal. . I spoke with all pickers/shippers here that i have personal relationship with and they make me understand the risk of exchanging money, distance covered and how hard it is getting dollars which is quite understand. But you see in this business, we all have to be flexible and reasonable, what is the essence of a job you are doing and people are cursing you at the back?

Like i told all the shippers/pickers i spoke with, people doing bulk pick ups (say 6/7 items and above) should be discounted. YES!!! If you cant discount them, do not charge them any % or anything extra if there's gonna be extra charges, let it be light. This is because as you're using huge $$ for the pick up, you will be shipping more than 7 items too which is more profitable for you as a picker, its simple logic. The truth is when someone finds a good deal after searching offer up overnight or even days, these extra % charged by pickers reduce the profit of the person but adds significantly to the picker. Imagine picking up 17 phones for say 7K and picker is charging you $500-600 pick up fee while he/she will still collect (25*15 = $425) as shipping fee, that's outrageous and inhumane. I'm not the one who looks into anybody's business or profit, this is era of internet, we all know how much it cost to ship from USA to Nigeria per item (i'll just leave it at that).

Pickers hardly run at loss, i stand to be corrected here too, emphasis on hardly, the odds are usually in their favour, deal hunters/buyers bear most of the risks. From items having MDM, to bad speaker, network failure, panic full, and roughness of items to mention a few. Even the waiting time for items to land, Its very hard on us doing business from Nigeria, the time zone alone is killing for some of us who have 9-5. I remember at a time i had 2 full time jobs and i still have to keep up with offer up sellers and supplier. I know more than 10 people that have quit offer up because they ran into loses, i am yet to see any picker quit because of the risks involved.

One of the things i notice with most pickers is that they think people patronizing them cant help them, that they (as pickers) are the only one that can help us. The reality of life is that once you start seeing yourself as the only person that can help someone, it get into your head and you start misbehaving. As a picker, you might not need help from us today but tomorrow fit come make you need help, nobody fit operate alone, so i'm begging all our pickers to please find a very good and reasonable solution to this issue of pick up rate and pick up fee. In my humble knowledge, no pick up fee should be more than 150-200 as long as the items are much, its always a win win situation.

PS: To the big boys who are pickers friend, please help us dialogue with them too, if you dey get discount from demn, make dem extend good discount to us wey be small boys too abeg, the rates are killing...E choke gan.

Nobody is perfect, we learn everyday to be better, my own dey my body too, make God help person. Happy new year once again.

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Succinctly put boss
I just hope something is done about it.
Peace be unto us all

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by chelseamann(m): 5:11pm On Dec 31, 2021
@Wildchild1 you have spoken with great wisdom.
@Lionlee216; you really summarised everything and I must commend you guys for such great words of wisdom..

This business is not easy at all, talking about the sleepless nights, the stress of sitting one place for a whole day (for most full time DH like me), holding my phone 24/7 because I have to stay active to keep up with everything, I also think you guys (the pickers) can still work on adjusting your pickup fees and even the charges, maybe you start looking into other means of paying sellers (zelle, cashapp etc) to make it a more profitable venture for both parties.

Peace .

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by onyizee07(m): 5:11pm On Dec 31, 2021
Lionlee and Wildchild has spoken very well but there’s one matter that I always find worrisome and that’s the exchange rate issue.

Why is it that when there’s an increase in the exchange rate pickers are quick to reflect this change even when some may have dollars exchanged at lower rate but when the opposite is the case, you hear things like it has not reflected over there or that they still have dollars which they exchanged at higher rate.

If I can get a better understanding to this from all sides I’ll very much appreciate
lionlee216:
Uncle WildChild1,

Let me start from the 5% to 10% thing. I know I was once guilty of this but I also did it to protect myself. You(I am using YOU as a general word) will bring a dropoff of $1000 and you will expect me to charge you $20 for drop off, business wise, its profitable to you, to me, it’s a huge LOSS. As at yesterday, Black market rate was 565/$. GTB dorm card can only get you $1000 per day and at the ATM, You can only get $800 at a go which comes with a charge of $4 per withdrawal. Meaning you can only withdraw $990 in a day with a charge of $8. $1000 was deposited from Nigeria but you got only $990 here. That’s a $10 loss already. Now I didn’t factor you will be running those errands for you in Nigeria, It wont be done for free. So do you now think you will bring a drop off $1000 and ill accept $20 as drop off fee? NO.
If I see a pickup of 12pro max of $650 coming with a pickup fee of $50, I will sure neglect the $1000 drop off and do the pickup because truthfully at the end of the day, its strictly business. For those that had/have done bulk pickup from me, once I see the money will take all my dollars, its either I decline or I charge you 7 to 8% even when I see the pickup fee is much, then I do give option like lets say your item fee is $7,000, I can let you pay maybe 5000$ into my dorm account and I’ll then charge you pickup fee on $2000. You wildchild1 can testify to it. Those charging 10%, legally did they do something wrong? NO! like I said its business.

SECONDLY as regards to shipping fees, for phones, I have been charging $20/phone and it has never gone beyond that. I really don’t think this should be an issue debating the shipping fees cos people have paid lot more for phone shipping with mikky with no complains, I know how much Clone20 was charging when he was doing pickups. Some people said they know how much to ship from US to Nigeria and its way less, some said they charge $10 per phone, which is fine but remember some companies do consolidation but no company will open your package, take out like 10 phones and start wrapping them for you one after the other. Your $20 shipping fee(from lionlee) includes buble wrapping, shipping fee, customs and insurance. I can do $10 shipping for you if I will ship your phone just like that. No buble wraps nothing. You get what you paid for. For those that have travelled internationally, even airline will ask you if you want protection on your ticket etc.

With all being said, when a picker is charging you all these fees, remember the cost of living in each states, the Gas fee in LA is very expensive compared to Chicago and fuel fee in Chicago is expensive compared to Indiana. All these you have to put into consideration but then you have two options : its either YOU DO or YOU DON’T!

Picker run at loss and the loss is always heavy when it happens. If all the pickers start telling their stories, then you will understand.

Lastly, Most of you guys deserve the kind of treatment you getting from most Pickers. Most of you are a$$lickers. I remember one guy telling me to my face that its either Mikkyangel or nothing, when he got served breakfast, the story changed. Some of you will approach for pickers and say “Pls I need to this pickup, start praising them how the picker has been the savior of their families lives blah blah blah” be begging. I have never seen a person go to a car dealership and be begging them with their money but you guys, its something else. The picker that has been doing nice to you, the moment there is a little mistake in a gadget being picked, the next you will hear is full refund, how you have sold the items to someone else without even reaching a common ground. The Picker becomes cold to you and then, next thing you hear is Mikky is very arrogant, shola is that. Then you start looking for payback. You start contacting people so that you can find another picker in the same state in a bid for u to do payback to the picker. Another picker shows up, you start praising him, telling the picker how mikky stole your deal, how lionlee did that. You start praising them as your Messaiah, The new picker sees your weakness, exploit you then you start wailing again. The first picker meets with the second picker, they come to a common ground and roll prices on you, then you are stuck. Most of you make those Pickers the way they are.

I will say this boldly because I am very sure and know very well. When Stanley came on board, He was shipping for less, less pickup fee, I know about daaz clients that went to him(Stanley) and be doing pickups there, when I heard from at least 3 people that he was stealing people’s suppliers and deals and the loss were too much, You now had no choice than to either to return to Mikky or Daaz and those you plan on returning to, you have already said bad things about them. Now you go to Mikky, he ignores you, you go to Daaz for 10k$ pickup, he said bring $1500 or he doesn’t have dollars, then you start complaining.
Some of you will even send the same deal to 2 different pickers, to you its strictly business because you want the faster hands to pickup the deal but in the process you are wasting their time too.

I even heard some pickers steal your deals and for the fear of them not picking for you again, you keep quiet! SUFFERING AND SMILING. When a picker steals your deal, take him to dispute thread, Scream his name! if he blocks you and you cant do without him, get a new whatsapp and continue your business with him but only a fool deals with a picker that is stealing from you.


STOP SEEING PICKERS AS YOUR MESSIAH. NO PICKER IS YOUR MESSIAH. AS YOU ARE SMILING TO THEM TO HELP YOU PICK ITEMS SO YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, THE SAME WAY THEY SMILING TO YOU SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY OFF YOU. IF YOU LIKE LICK THEIR FEET TILL TOMORROW, IT CHANGES NOTHING! THOSE OF YOU LICKING THEIR A$$ES, HOW MARKET TODAY?.

Shalom!

cc daaz001

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by chelseamann(m): 5:19pm On Dec 31, 2021
I also say the extra charges should be look into very well, I cant count the number of deals I'v had to let go because the seller refuse to take off $10 (from let's say $500) all because I was trying to avoid the extra charges that comes with it.

Also, there are many DH here that can source for dollars (cash) in USA but most pickers would reject it and its not good for the business.

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