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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 6:33am On Jan 09, 2022
Sights and scenes around an Igbo compound

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 6:40am On Jan 09, 2022
Pictures of traditional Igbo indoor kitchens...

Testimonies from Igbos such as Olaudah state that Igbos had indoor and outdoor kitchens, which they alternated based on the season. Each wife inside a compound should technically have their own kitchen, as everything was supposed to have been set up before they moved in.

Each standard indoor kitchen should have features such as a stove, smoke-oven (anuru), grinding stones, and other appliances. As well as maybe a small pen for fowls. Notice also the shelves (akpata), which were used like today, to store cups, plates and some pots.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 6:43am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
Igbos loved smoked fish. The type sourced and cooked from local rivers and the coasts was of higher demand to the populace than the dried fish that Europeans exported.

An Igbo oven below, used for baking or smoking fish.

Unlike the small smoke-ovens in a standard Igbo kitchen, this outdoor oven was very large. Likely for commercial use, not domestic.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by CovenHighPriest: 7:39am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:


Is this what you are talking about?

Bro i comot cap for you. How you get all these pictures amaze me, come collect maize. grin cool

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by AfonjaFula: 8:30am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
This is actually a drawing of an efik compound. But the academic paper that I sourced it from used Igbo compound building plans as a point of reference to describe this style, because of it's great similarity to common Igbo architecture. A key difference, would be that Igbo compound walls are much thicker and larger.

Sourced from: { 2017, Zones of Entanglement: Nigeria's Real and Imagined Compounds
Joseph Godlewski
Syracuse University }

Hello can you message me on Facebook on my mock account , that I refer you to the original -I would like we have some chat.

Pls reply if interested -Thank you.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 8:35am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
Pictures of traditional Igbo indoor kitchens...

Testimonies from Igbos such as Olaudah state that Igbos had indoor and outdoor kitchens, which they alternated based on the season. Each wife inside a compound should technically have their own kitchen, as everything was supposed to have been set up before they moved in.

Each standard indoor kitchen should have features such as a stove, smoke-oven (anuru), grinding stones, and other appliances. As well as maybe a small pen for fowls. Notice also the shelves (akpata), which were used like today, to store cups, plates and some pots.

Are you not embarrassed to continue these Olaudah lies? Olaudah was not Eboe
Olaudah was not Eboe

So throughout the entire history of humanity the only human person that you can cite as a historical Eboe figure is a slave? A slave of obscure and unknown origin? This is shameful
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 9:24am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Are you not embarrassed to continue these Olaudah lies? Olaudah was not Eboe
Olaudah was not Eboe

So throughout the entire history of humanity the only human person that you can cite as a historical Eboe figure is a slave? A slave of obscure and unknown origin? This is shameful

Please take your drugs. This isn't you.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 9:25am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:


Please take your drugs. This isn't you.
dry
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by boyfrank: 9:34am On Jan 09, 2022
Bkayyy:

The only people with history of enslavement is Yoruba.
Prior to the christening of "Hausa Banza" which was the term you people were referred to by the civilised Huasa people, the modern day Yorubas were categorised as uncivilised people down south of Hausa land who were raided by Nupe and Jukun for further enslavement in Kano.

Kano was a city that at her zenith comprised of 60% slaves of which 40 out of the 60 is Yoruba.
The history of Yoruba in Nigeria can be demarcated into three.

1. Their enslavement by Hausa.
2. Their enslavement by Nupe and Jukun.
3. Their civilisation by Fulani.

The third was the last before the British took over. The remnants of their civilisation by the Fulani can be seen in their Aso oké, baban Riga and the official dressing of the Alaafin of Oyo which is a female Fulani dressing

Don't confuse your history with Ndigbo.
Ndigbo were never enslaved by any black.


You are exchanging words with a r.tard, the yoruba were the most enslaved Africans by far, they were so much more enslaved than even igbos to the extent that they retain a form of there language and religion in Brazil and Venezuela. It takes an enslaved population to have a huge population density to retain that.
Any research on slavery will tell u that the yorubas were the most enslaved.
But no, they won't look at that, they will rather want to masturbate on Igbo threads.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by boyfrank: 9:35am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:

Women do not
marry from their Umunna so they have no rights to land therein

stop lying

R.tard, we are not perverts, a woman can't marry from her own extended family. If u don't know what umunna is then stop mentioning it.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 9:39am On Jan 09, 2022
boyfrank:


R.tard, we are not perverts, a woman can't marry from her own extended family. If u don't know what umunna is then stop mentioning it.
Yes but we are talking of egalitarianism so she has no right to inherit?
You can try those tactics with children.
Won't work#
Do not change topic
You claim to be egalitarian so why can't a woman inherit from her father just like her brothers
because in Eboe land women are treated like second class citizens just like among the Hausa and fulani
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Alfo65: 10:02am On Jan 09, 2022
Marked
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by KingOKON: 10:24am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
That is not to say that the Igbos never had kings. They did, they had many of them.

Wen taking a deeper look at Igbo history kingship, these figures were family patriarchs who grew into importance and thus exerted some form of influence over their 'subjects', which were really family or clan members.

In ancient Igboland, which operated under a compound system, each compound was like a small town in itself. It housed a larger family made up of several families and was headed by a partriach which was the traditional custodian of the family land.

These patriarchs would be less noticeable in influence in the Igbo heartland which was densely populated, compared to outside the region where low populations meant that that could grow into considerable amounts of power over the centuries . Even being termed as kings even though their role was not as such.


As well as that, most figures termed as kings in Igboland were often figures that took on the roles of priest or judge. On the occasion an enterprising businessman, or a strongman during times of war.

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King like who when the saying Igbos knows no king is an adage
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by KingOKON: 10:27am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
So Igbos enjoyed somewhat relative peace before the slave trade compared to some other groups.

The heavily armed and fearsome populous, the massively dense population and the terrain discouraged many from attempting to penetrate deep into this territory.
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Ego tripping and Ego massaging

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 10:31am On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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Ego tripping and Ego massaging

Hahaha

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 11:21am On Jan 09, 2022
Arochukwu along with other Igbo groups held a lot of sway over the niger delta in the past.

Below is an excerpt of a Kalabari chief speaking to a European traveller about their connection with Arochukwu.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 11:24am On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:
Arochukwu along with other Igbo groups held a lot of sway over the niger delta in the past.

Below is an excerpt of a Kalabari chief speaking to a European traveller about their connection with Arochukwu.
Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos

They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves
Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:26am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos

They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves
Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty
troll

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 11:26am On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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King like who when the saying Igbos knows no king is an adage
A very confused people
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:27am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
A very confused people
troll

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Ovamboland(m): 11:33am On Jan 09, 2022
Fahdiga1:
Even though I'm a Yoruba man but my great grandfather who was an Oba in Ilesha back then told me the truth that the Igbos were the first civilized black race in the world. That they helped bring civilization to our Yoruba land. I keep wondering how the Igbos were to be exposed so early more than us the Yorubas

Okoro impersonating Yoruba as usual. When will you be truthful for once and proud of your heritage?
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by boyfrank: 11:41am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Yes but we are talking of egalitarianism so she has no right to inherit?
You can try those tactics with children.
Won't work#
Do not change topic
You claim to be egalitarian so why can't a woman inherit from her father just like her brothers
because in Eboe land women are treated like second class citizens just like among the Hausa and fulani


I used to think u had something upstairs, u just removed everything doubt. I explained to you in simple terms why women don't marry their umunna, but tribal bigotry won't let you understand.
Women don't typically inherit from their umunna because they are married to another umunna and they inherit from their husbands which is usually far from their fathers umunna or even village.
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by boyfrank: 11:46am On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos

They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves
Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty

Lol, Just go and open a yoruba thread biko.
Arochukwu in Abia is not Igbo abi? Soon Nri will turn to yoruba.

A thread about ndiIgbo is giving u nightmares.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Bkayyy: 11:46am On Jan 09, 2022
boyfrank:


I used to think u had something upstairs, u just removed everything doubt. I explained to you in simple terms why women don't marry their umunna, but tribal bigotry won't let you understand.
Women don't typically inherit from their umunna because they are married to another umunna and their inherit from their husbands which is usually far from their fathers umunna or even village.
You are wasting your time because the concept of Marriage is alien to Yoruba culture.
Prior to their encounter with Fulani and other Islamists, Yorubas have no established marriage culture so things like this is alien to Aribisala0 who looks like someone raised in the Yoruba traditional way.

Their women then just stay in their fathers house and give births. So they struggle with their male counterparts on what happens in her paternal house unlike other cultures like Igbo, Efik, Ibibio, Hausa etc that women marry out to live with their husbands.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Shiver99: 11:57am On Jan 09, 2022
KingOKON:
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Ego tripping and Ego massaging

I don't know what it is with you folks.

You can't touch the Igbos, even as they nowadays live a docile and peaceful life. But you think you can take on the Ancient Igbos? A people who were ruthless and wouldn't hear the word 'sorry'?

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by AfonjaFula: 12:00pm On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos

They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves
Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty

Hey dude look here am from Arochukwu.
Now, what you say againnn?

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by aribisala0(m): 12:09pm On Jan 09, 2022
Bkayyy:

You are wasting your time because the concept of Marriage is alien to Yoruba culture.
Prior to their encounter with Fulani and other Islamists, Yorubas have no established marriage culture so things like this is alien to Aribisala0 who looks like someone raised in the Yoruba traditional way.

Their women then just stay in their fathers house and give births. So they struggle with their male counterparts on what happens in her paternal house unlike other cultures like Igbo, Efik, Ibibio, Hausa etc that women marry out to live with their husbands.


Diversion Tactic won't work
Childish

You claim you are egalitarian but treat women like chattels

We are not discussing anything but the claim of Iboe egalitarianism
Why can't a woman inherit her father's property.
Nigeria had to civilize that into you only two years ago
Do men have to perform any innocence rites when their wives die? Is that egalitarian
Is Osuism egalitarian. A status that is inherited, indelible and shamefully ostracizing. to a subgroup that is untouchable. How egalitarian is that. No one is here to make trouble just correct repeated distortions about manifest reality distortion and revisionism of what the rest of us see and know about you. We ( Nigeria) forced you to grant daughters the right to inherit.
Stop claiming to be egalitarian . You are very feudal in practice with money being the most important determinant of standing. The only time a governor brought a citizen to be flogged in government House in recorded history it was one of yours. That was not a rarity that is the role of money in your society. Stop the fiction. Open a dictionary and check what EGALITARIAN means
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by boyfrank: 12:18pm On Jan 09, 2022
ruggedtimi:
Hmm..after reading "Narrative of an exploring voyage up the rivers Kwóra and Bínue"...one thing I took note of was that the ibos sold their brothers out for slave trade through the bonny people, notably King pepple I of bonny bought his slaves from the ibos.

No tribe was left out of the slave trade, not Yoruba, not Fulani and not Ijaw.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jan 09, 2022
thebosstrevor1:


Nsibidi isnt a writing language but a pictogram or syllabograms.

If Nsibidi was actually a writing language then it would have been developed, look at the English language, the old king james version english developed to the present English language.

Why are the igbos not writing in Nsibidi?

You claim the igbos were not walking about naked but in skimpy clothes but there are lot of pictorial evidence that showed otherwise they were barely covered.

An hunter gathering society is the first stage of civilization, so how can they be more intelligent than an agricultural or pastoral tribes.

Unfortunately, many African tribes haven't passed the hunter gathering, agricultural and pastoral stages of civilization.

Btw, most pastoral tribes are known as the warrior tribes and elite tribes, small in number but love to be the ruling class, this trace have been found in the tutsi tribe, maasai ,fulani etc.

Nsibidi isn't igbo in origin.
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by KingOKON: 1:32pm On Jan 09, 2022
Shiver99:


I don't know what it is with you folks.

You can't touch the Igbos, even as they nowadays live a docile and peaceful life. But you think you can take on the Ancient Igbos? A people who were ruthless and wouldn't hear the word 'sorry'?
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Them nack dem upandan like anything and that's the reason you are trying to massage your bruised ego
What has happened has happened
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:
Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos

They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves
Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty

I don't know why this Yoruba man has sworn to die ontop Igbo issues, but we will humor you.

Arochukwu has and will always be Igbo. The Aros conquered the aborigines (ibom dynasty you talk about) and took over the long juju shrine. Yes, the assimilated the ruling house by marrying there daughters ,but the Igbo is partenal in lineage. The Aro confederacy which actually consists of ohafia, Arochukwu and bende, held sway over most of the lower niger delta , ran slave trades as well as founded cities.
Are the ohafians and bende people not Igbo ?
There only opponents in those days where the NGWA (one of the biggest tribes of the Igbo ethnic group). Infact, one of the reasons the whites gave for invading and destroying Aro was the destruction of the largest Ngwa town then by the Aro raiders (Abam worriors).

The destruction of Arochukwu resulted in its citizens fleeing and founding towns among other Igbo tribes like Aro-ngwa and Arondizogu.

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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jan 09, 2022
aribisala0:


Diversion Tactic won't work
Childish

You claim you are egalitarian but treat women like chattels

We are not discussing anything but the claim of Iboe egalitarianism
Why can't a woman inherit her father's property.
Nigeria had to civilize that into you only two years ago
Do men have to perform any innocence rites when their wives die? Is that egalitarian
Is Osuism egalitarian. A status that is inherited, indelible and shamefully ostracizing. to a subgroup that is untouchable. How egalitarian is that. No one is here to make trouble just correct repeated distortions about manifest reality distortion and revisionism of what the rest of us see and know about you. We ( Nigeria) forced you to grant daughters the right to inherit.
Stop claiming to be egalitarian . You are very feudal in practice with money being the most important determinant of standing. The only time a governor brought a citizen to be flogged in government House in recorded history it was one of yours. That was not a rarity that is the role of money in your society. Stop the fiction. Open a dictionary and check what EGALITARIAN means


It's Igbo not iboe ,unless you want your tribe to be called uroba instead of Yoruba ?

Women weren't treated like chattels in ancient Igbo custom . Yes women couldn't inherit there father's property because once married,they became a member of there husband's family. In ancient Igbo times
, each married woman had a hut and a piece of land which was her's till death. We also had the council of umuadas (first daughters). They also had important roles to play in community decision making. In those days, a man who throws away the pot of his wife or her cooking tools had commited an abomination of such a propotion that he will make appeasement to the gods of the land.

Osus are people dedicated to the gods .They took care of deities and it's shrines, they ate offerings, sacrifices,money ,livestock's and even farmed large parcels of lands that came with the shrines. They where the only people who could do such. They also couldn't be killed by anyone no matter the offence they commit (actually that's how many people became osu's). A man who commits murder and is being sought-after for revenge can rush into a shrine, dedicate himself to the deity and he gains absolution from his crime.The OSU can take anything he wants from anyone in the name of the gods.
The osu only became unpopular with the advent of Christianity.

Even at that,the biggest tribes of the Igbo ethnic group (the Ngwa) had nothing like OSU,many Igbo tribes had no practice like it .

So yes,infact the igbo's where egalitarian to the extent mortal societies can be.

And money played no role in ancient Igbo society. The wealth of an Igbo man was measured through the content of his yam barns, the hits of his wife's and the number of his children.

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