aribisala0:
You are making sense to yourself

Who exactly are the Igbos.

Lets know who we are talking about here since all Ndigbo now hail from various Minorities.

Who exactly are the Eboe/Ibo/Igbo?

Bkayyy:

Who exactly are the Igbos.

Lets know who we are talking about here since all Ndigbo now hail from various Minorities.

Who exactly are the Eboe/Ibo/Igbo?

That is not my problem and I am not getting dranw into irrelevant subjects
All I have been saying here is that Eboe society is not as egalitarian as many of you like to say with pervasive Misogyny and Osuism

See how the simple question silenced the confused fellow.

The reason why this question always silence them is that it makes them realise how inter/intra related Igboland is.

You can't answer it without fooling yourself more

aribisala0:
That is not my problem and I am not getting dranw into irrelevant subjects
All I have been saying here is that Eboe society is not as egalitarian as many of you like to say with pervasive Misogyny and Osuism

Don't digress my friend.
Who are the Igbos that did all these things?

Bkayyy:

Don't digress my friend.
Who are the Igbos that did all these things?

Who is digressing? Spare me the reverse psychology?

Won't work

I sussed you folk a long time ago

This tactic of changing subject when you lose the core argument is so transparent

EGALITARIANISM

that is the issue

You are not as egalitarian as you claim

Women cannot inherit their father's property
and struggle to inherit in their husband's home

When husband's die they have to go through barbaric innocence rites

Also the widespread practice of OSUISM gives the lie to claims of egalitarianism as mere narcissism

aribisala0:
Who is digressing? Spare me the reverse psychology?

Won't work

Who exactly are those Igbo you are talking about?

Bkayyy:

Who exactly are those Igbo you are talking about?

Good morning.

Who exactly are the Eboes YOU are talking about


I am talking of those Eboes that practice Osuism and misogyny

The same one s that your cotravellers said have a marraage heritage that makes it unnecessary for women to inherit their fathers property

You are not as egalitarian as you like to project

I think I now understand what is happening here. That is the obsession of Aribisala0 with Arochukwu and the Igbo clans that make it up.

In as much as he knows nothing about it, he just imagines it to be exactly like their Oyo where foreigners are the ruling clan.

It is no news that ruling Alaafin clan is of Nupe Origin, who the Yorubas call Tapa

They sacked the Yorubas and took over the Alaafin stool since 16th century

aribisala0:
Good morning.

Who exactly are the Eboes YOU are talking about


I am talking of those Eboes that practice Osuism and misogyny

The same one s that your cotravellers said have a marraage heritage that makes it unnecessary for women to inherit their fathers property

You are not as egalitarian as you like to project

The Igbos which I am one of are everything in this map and beyond. The beyond are our brothers at the borders with Cameroon.

These are the same people you are talking about but envy for our intimidating history and culture makes you sound ridiculously.

Bkayyy:

The Igbos which I am one of are everything in this map and beyond. The beyond are our brothers at the borders with Cameroon.

These are the same people you are talking about but envy for our intimidating history and culture makes you sound ridiculously.

Not interested

We were discussing the interplay of egaluitarianism, OSUISM and Eboe misogyny
Why don't you allow women inherit their father's property?
You are not as egalitarian as you project

Bkayyy:
I think I now understand what is happening here. That is the obsession of Aribisala0 with Arochukwu and the Igbo clans that make it up.

In as much as he knows nothing about it, he just imagines it to be exactly like their Oyo where foreigners are the ruling clan.

It is no news that ruling Alaafin clan is of Nupe Origin, who the Yorubas call Tapa

They sacked the Yorubas and took over the Alaafin stool since 16th century

The same tired tactic
Won't work
There is only ONE POINT of engagement
Your claim of egalitarianism

You open a thread claiming to be egalitarian
but all the while practice Misogyny and OSUISM
You are not egalitarian

aribisala0:

The same tired tactic
Won't work
There is only ONE POINT of engagement
Your claim of egalitarianism

You open a thread claiming to be egalitarian
but all the while practice Misogyny and OSUISM
You are not egalitarian

You should focus more on your Yoruba perpetual servitude to Nupe Alaafin of Oyo

Bkayyy:

Our women marry, not stay at home (the fathers house) and breed like yours.
Unlike you people then, we have morals

You are a good student of history

Bkayyy:

Who exactly is this Eboe/Ibo/Igbo that you savages put in the same line as slaves if we are to go with your fallacies.

First according to you people, the riverine Igbo communities are Ijaw
Northern Igbo communities Igala
Western Igbo communities Bini
And now Aro, Akamkpa or whatever

So who exactly is the remaining Eboe that everybody took as slaves?

Igboid once said something about the interest of other tribes in Nigeria is to annex all our lands.
What have we not heard? Igbos are only in the south east, in the same south east most of Abia is Ijaw, others isoko, Anambra is igala land a whole Anambra o, Enugu is Igala and Idoma, Ebonyi belongs to the north, Imo are mostly Oru people and Oru people are not Igbo blah blah blah... smh a lot of incoherent jargons.
I know they just want us to disappear from the face of the earth mana Igbo esika!

aribisala0:
but it is not hausa so that people borrow honorifics is not new and proves nothing

The fact is the Aro is ruled by the descendants of Nnubi

See humiliation...

You see as Igbo mata don show you shege...

Bkayyy:

You should focus more on your Yoruba perpetual servitude to Nupe Alaafin of Oyo

The conversation happens on my terms
be served dismiss your impotent attempt to change topic
dismissed with contempt

You came to the public space to claim egalitarianism
I can say with conviction that claim has been refuted and also dismissed with the same contempt



No one forced you to open a thread . You did and should expect to discuss that. Ibo historical society
Areas of interest would be
Birth rites
Marriage rites
Death rutes
governance
Individual rights and obligations
Social justice
Religon.

for example and etcetera


Someone claimed it was egalitaran and that is where I came in.
I would be proud to show the world the Eboe example of egalitarianism and attach myself by claiming "Nigerian" but on examination it t not something I can present to the world with pride. In many ways it is shameful. Who does not have a shameful past.? We all do. The key issue here is the capacity to admit we are human , not perfect and not better(or worse) than anyone . The corollary is the need to appear better and impose that on the collective psyche.
Where there are shortcomings they must be acknowledged .


What is the reaction of Eboe society to the Supreme Court judgment on female inheritance
Why are Eboe women afraid to talk about it?

CovenHighPriest:


Igboid once said something about the interest of other tribes in Nigeria is to annex all our lands.
What have we not heard? Igbos are only in the south east, in the same south east most of Abia is Ijaw, others isoko, Anambra is igala land a whole Anambra o, Enugu is Igala and Idoma, Ebonyi belongs to the north, Imo are mostly Oru people and Oru people are not Igbo blah blah blah... smh a lot of incoherent jargons.
I know they just want us to disappear from the face of the earth mana Igbo esika!

That's why the question "who are those Igbos you are talking about" tear their underwear.

I remember asking an Ijaw revisionist that question in a seminar where he claims that the whole rivers state including Ikwerre are descendants of Ijaw.
I never cared about his imaginations until he brought that their Imaginary Igbo slaves as a stigma into it.

Then I asked him the brain resetting question "who exactly are those Igbos you took as slaves" and everywhere became quiet.
Oga packed his projector, everyone else packed their bags and books and the seminar came to an end.

aribisala0:

The conversation happens on my terms
be served dismiss your impotent attempt to change topic
dismissed with contempt

You came to the public space to claim egalitarianism
I can say with conviction that claim has been refuted and also dismissed with the same contempt



No one forced you to open a thread . You did and should expect to discuss that. Ibo historical society
Areas of interest would be
Birth rites
Marriage rites
Death rutes
governance
Individual rights and obligations
Social justice
Religon.

for example and etcetera


Someone claimed it was egalitaran and that is where I came in.
I would be proud to show the world the Eboe example of egalitarianism and attach myself by claiming "Nigerian" but on examination it t not something I can present to the world with pride. In many ways it is shameful. Who does not have a shameful past.? We all do. The key issue here is the capacity to admit we are human , not perfect and not better(or worse) than anyone . The corollary is the need to appear better and impose that on the collective psyche.
Where there are shortcomings they must be acknowledged .


What is the reaction of Eboe society to the Supreme Court judgment on female inheritance
Why are Eboe women afraid to talk about it?

And who are the "Eboes" you are talking about?

Bkayyy:

And who are the "Eboes" you are talking about?

So we have seen that among the Eboes traditionally there was much hierarchy determined by wealth with little participation of women in political activity and their manifest inferiority and status as chattels. They were denied inheritance rites among other institutionalized shaming rites.
Also the practice of slavery and Osuiism makes claims of Eboe egalitarianism discredited
The point is as far as egalitarianism s concerned Eboes are not more egalitarian than any of ther neighbours not just in Nigeria but across Africa and so insistence on the claims must serve another purpose that is hidden

aribisala0:

So we have seen that among the Eboes traditionally there was much hierarchy determined by wealth with little participation of women in political activity and their manifest inferiority and status as chattels. They were denied inheritance rites among other institutionalized shaming rites.
Also the practice of slavery and Osuiism makes claims of Eboe egalitarianism discredited

And who are they?

Bkayyy:

And who are they?

Eboes

aribisala0:
Eboes

Lol

Bkayyy:

Lol

aribisala0:
Eboes

pathetic

Bkayyy:

That's why the question "who are those Igbos you are talking about" tear their underwear.

I remember asking an Ijaw revisionist that question in a seminar where he claims that the whole rivers state including Ikwerre are descendants of Ijaw.
I never cared about his imaginations until he brought that their Imaginary Igbo slaves as a stigma into it.

Then I asked him the brain resetting question "who exactly are those Igbos you took as slaves" and everywhere became quiet.
Oga packed his projector, everyone else packed their bags and books and the seminar came to an end.

It's very funny. I don't blame them, I blame the brainless Igbos in SS falling to their tricks.

Ijaws would shout that Ndoki is Ijaw when it pleases them. But when it doesn't, Ndoki becomes Igbo.
See a post they made in their stupid Facebook page:

Did you know?

In 1884 (c), an Igbo ruler in Ohambele by name Odumegege (Ohambele is located in present day Abia State) was so infuriated with the fact that King Jugbo Jugbofem (Jaja pictured here) of the Ijaw kingdom of Opobo refused him to trade directly with the Europeans that he started insulting Jaja by saying that how on earth did Jaja an Igbo man became so powerful in an Ijaw kingdom. Jaja being a man of few words, reacted to this insult of belittling him as an igbo even after taking the oath of allegiance in Bonny that made him a complete ibani ijaw civilised man. Jaja sent his war ships down to Ohambele with instructions to capture this loud mouthed igbo man alive and bring him to Opobo, where he was SKINNED ALIVE, Till this day, a drum made of his skin is still played occasionally in the ijaw kingdom of Opobo.

Even though we know that Bonny, Opobo and Ndoki are all Igbo speaking people and hence part and parcel of Ancient Igbo land and that the story told above is nothing more than usual Ijaw Ogogoro induced fascinations and hallucinations.
But because these desperate Ijaws are currently after Opobo and Bonny, having been defeated and chased off Ndoki Facebook pages by Ndoki people, they are now showing their fangs on Ndoki, calling them Igbos and trying to denigrate them.

Ohambele Ndoki became Igbo because it served their purpose today, when it doesn't, Ndoki and Ohambele becomes "Aminandokiari" Ijaws.

Edos are doing same thing with Ika and Ukwuani people.
I will provide receipts now.

This Edo man here was taking glory in Edo enslaving a people he called "Igbos".

We all know he is talking about Anioma, the same people they claim are Edos when it suits them.
But the cunning man cannot come out plain to say it, because he wants to still claim them as Edo people on another day when it suits him.

Do you blame him? Nope? The blame lays with Ika and Ukwuani people suffering from inferiority complex and Stockholm syndrome and on some misguided Igbos being to soft on such people in the name of trying to woo them over to accepting Igbo tag.
I asked the Edo man to clarify the so called "Igbos" his Edo people enslaved, he kept tactical silence. Because he knows it couldn't be SE. Ika and Ukwuani they used as slaves in the past become Igbos when its time to fan their (Edo) little egos like the poster I attached his post here and even Reno Omokri did, but they become non Igbos and Bini descendants when it suits their land grab and need for people to swell up their minority number.

https://www.nairaland.com/6161623/nri-benin-kingdom-oyo-empire/7#109227989

Moheat:
[s]So that picture you showed was the best of Yoruba structures from the early/mid 1900s? It therefore means you guys arent developed at all.[/s]

LMAO

Sadly (for you), the joke is unfortunately (for you) on you.
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1st attachment :—‘Best’ Igbo structure from the late-1900s (as proudly posted by one of your champions).
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2nd attachment: ‘Best’ Yoruba structure from the early-1900s (as proudly posted by me when one of your own ‘unjustifiably’ brought Yorùbá into the mix).

Now you know who isn’t developed at all. Wipe your tears quietly.

Cheers.

Bkayyy:
I think I now understand what is happening here. That is the obsession of Aribisala0 with Arochukwu and the Igbo clans that make it up.

In as much as he knows nothing about it, he just imagines it to be exactly like their Oyo where foreigners are the ruling clan.

It is no news that ruling Alaafin clan is of Nupe Origin, who the Yorubas call Tapa

They sacked the Yorubas and took over the Alaafin stool since 16th century

Are you sure about this?
Meanwhile, look at what I found.
https://www.nairaland.com/5636657/invasion-oyo-empire-tsoedethe-king

TAO11:
LMAO

Sadly (for you), the joke is unfortunately (for you) on you.
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1st attachment :—‘Best’ Igbo structure from the late-1900s (as proudly posted by one of your chanpions).
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2nd attachment: ‘Best’ Yorùbá structure from the early-1900s (as proudly posted by me when one of your own ‘unjustifiably’ brought Yorùbá into the mix).

Now you know who isn’t developed at all. Wipe your tears quietly.

Cheers.

Where did you get the appellation "best Igbo structure" from?

Igboid:
Where did you get the appellation "best Igbo structure" from?

Those are the worst Igbo structures? Or the mediocre ones?

Why are your supposed BeSts HiDden AwAy from this gReAt thread that celebrates your classical glory?
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PS: Anyway, your attempt to spin on my word choice is at best useless, and at worst more disgraceful for you.

I say this because the precise words used by your own brothers are: “quintessential”, “iconic”, “magnificent”.

Sorry, the joke is on you sir.

Cheers