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cornelboy:
You don't understand anything in the book of revelation bro.

Don't you know that Jesus will fight his enemies on earth?
You don't know gog and Magog, Armageddon?

I know that. We have no argument about gog and Magog, Armageddon. But I don't understand why you are bringing this up. What has this got to do with our present discussion?

You don't know anything baba you just de stare at the bible you no de read am.

God the Father made Jesus to be King. Jesus is the one ruling the kingdom right now and the 144000 are ruling together with Jesus.

When Jesus comes to earth together with the kingdom he will defeat all his enemies and hand over the kingdom to God the Father.
Shebi i tell you make you no use king James

Why your brothers no support you.?Achorladey emusan and co?

tctrills:
ok, Jesus and his Father would rule the guys on earth for some time then they would later go back to rule the 144000 in heaven? My brother please Like you said if I don't understand, I should ask for your help. Please help me. Point me to any scripture that explains this migratory pattern.

Because it has something to do with 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 kai!

tctrills:
I know that. We have no argument about gog and Magog, Armageddon. But I don't understand why you are bringing this up. What has this got to do with our present discussion?

cornelboy:
You don't know anything baba you just de stare at the bible you no de read am.

God the Father made Jesus to be King. Jesus is the one ruling the kingdom right now and the 144000 are ruling together with Jesus.

When Jesus comes to earth together with the kingdom he will defeat all his enemies and hand over the kingdom to God the Father.
Shebi i tell you make you no use king James

Why your brothers no support you.?Achorladey emusan and co?

Brother take it easy with the insults. Can we discuss without being rude biko?
I asked you for scripture, not your personal opinion sir.
All these wonderful things you said where e dey for bible.
How do you know that Jesus is currently ruling heaven with his 144,000? Has he already selected the 144,000? Is the judgment complete already?
And trust me, we are not a team here. Everyone is expressing his own beliefs. I have no team on niaraland.

And the verse i gave you didn't point to you that Jesus has a Father and God that is greater and Goder than him?

John 14:28
[28]Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

tctrills:
It does not point to the fact that Jesus is not God. He was only pointing us to his father who is also God like him. I never said the father isn't God nor did this scripture say Jesus Christ isn't God. But the verse I gave you clearly points that he is God.

cornelboy:
And the verse i gave you didn't point to you that Jesus has a Father and God that is greater and Goder than him?

John 14:28
[28]Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

You seem to be on another topic here. We both believe that Jesus has a father. What is your point.

cornelboy:
You don't understand anything in the book of revelation bro.
Don't you know that Jesus will fight his enemies on earth?
You don't know gog and Magog, Armageddon?

He already knew you're smarter than his nonsense and ingredients but he's desperately looking for your weakness so he can capitalize on that. Once he couldn't find any weakness in you he will run away and start calling you names! Luke 4:13

Jesus and his 144,000 co-rulers will forever be in heaven but the effectiveness of their righteous government is what will be brought to the earth, and the inhabitants of the earth will enjoy it for 1,000 years {Revelations 20:5-6} after which Jesus' 1,000 years tenor will end then Satan (who has been chained in the abyss) will be released to come and test the humans who has become perfect through Christ's millennial reign. That's why Jesus said:

"The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended" Revelations 20:5
Because only those having the heavenly call will not encounter Satan's trouble anymore, so they have nothing to fear as regards temptation or falling for Satan's tricks! Revelations 20:6

Of course many perfect human just like Adam and Eve will fall for Satan's tricks again then God will destroy both Satan and all those that followed him!
That's when we will no longer need Jesus again as perfect human, then each of us will connect with our heavenly father directly! 1Corinthians 15:28

No be you talk say e de the same let with the Father?
Pls who's the Father of Jesus?

tctrills:
You seem to be on another topic here. We both believe that Jesus has a father. What is your point.

cornelboy:
No be you talk say e de the same let with the Father?
Pls who's the Father of Jesus?

Please are you quoting someone else? I have never said Jesus is the same as his father. I only said Jesus is Jehovah, not the Father. Please quote me right. At least let's be honest people.

cornelboy:
No be you talk say e de the same let with the Father?
Pls who's the Father of Jesus?

Perhaps it's Jesus himself!

Who is the Father?

tctrills:
Please are you quoting someone else? I have never said Jesus is the same as his father. I only said Jesus is Jehovah, not the Father. Please quote me right. At least let's be honest people.

tctrills:
Please are you quoting someone else? I have never said Jesus is the same as his father. I only said Jesus is Jehovah, not the Father. Please quote me right. At least let's be honest people.

Chai, see confusion o!

No wonder our NWT returned JEHOVAH'S name back to it's rightful places in the scriptures!

So Jesus is Jehovah but not the father.

Then what is Jesus' father's name that Jesus himself said he has made known? John 17:6, 26

cornelboy:
Who is the Father?

I promised we would get to that but we are not done with the whole Jehovah topic and you were going to show me where the Bible says Jesus rules heaven for now with his 144000

tctrills:
]Who bare record of the word of [b]God[/b], and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw
What is the word of God?
Everything Jesus said in the bible is the word of God.
The teachings of the Apostles and prophets are the word of God. When the scriptures talk about the word of God, It's not about God speaking. It's when one speaks under the inspiration of the spirit.

The word of God comes from where? A state Abi not a person?
No be from God the Father?

If you don't tell me who the Father is now, I think we might have to end the discussion.

tctrills:
I promised we would get to that but we are not done with the whole Jehovah topic and you were going to show me where the Bible says Jesus rules heaven for now with his 144000

tctrills:
I promised we would get to that but we are not done with the whole Jehovah topic and you were going to show me where the Bible says Jesus rules heaven for now with his 144000

Dodging don begin!

Jesus is Jehovah but not the father, then what is the name of Jesus' father that we must held Holy? Matthew 6:9

Abeg Cornelboy my wife is disturbing me i'm going to bed, this guy is a confusionist he will never give you a distinct response but luring you into worthless arguments just to get your weak side then capitalize on that to tell you that your faith is wrong.
If truly he wants to talk don't forget this will be the second time he's running away from direct questions, the first time you asked about his Church and till today he ran away only to return without answering.
Now he said Jesus is Jehovah but not the father, OK what is Jesus' father's name?
He wants to dodge that one too!

cornelboy:
If you don't tell me who the Father is now, I think we might have to end the discussion.

You are a grown man. Make your own decision and have fun as you do. As long as we are respectful, we are good.

tctrills:
You are a grown man. Make your own decision and have fun as you do. As long as we are respectful, we are good.

Fun, you take the Bible for fun?

Who's the Father bro!?

cornelboy:
The word of God comes from where? A state Abi not a person?
No be from God the Father?

You are right but then like I said, anyone whose words is led by the spirit is speaking the word of God. The words of Jesus Christ are 100 percent the word of God. So if Revelations is about the word of God, it no different from Matthew Mark or Luke, or John.

cornelboy:
Fun, you take the Bible for fun?

Who's the Father bro!?

I promised you I would reveal the father to you but you should respect my time, don't you think?

cornelboy:
Fun, you take the Bible for fun?

Who's the Father bro!?

Fun, you take the Bible for fun?
Yes. I don't think we should go to war over our religious differences. Yes, let's have fun.

Who's God in the OT, YHWH..
What did He promise Israel, the messiah..
Who came as the Messiah in NT, Jesus God's son. John 3:16
Who's Jesus' Father -------------e no hard na YHWH God.
Is Jesus YHWH, not possible!

Who's the Father, YHWH!
Who's YHWH, God and Father of Jesus Christ.

There's nothing for you to reveal.
If you want to reveal just do it in a post and let's examine it.
Good night!

tctrills:
I promised you I would reveal the father to you but you should respect my time, don't you think?

tctrills:
Fun, you take the Bible for fun?
Yes. I don't think we should go to war over our religious differences. Yes, let's have fun.

When it comes to that i don't take it as fun.

cornelboy:
Who's God in the OT, YHWH..
What did He promise Israel, the messiah..
Who came as the Messiah in NT, Jesus God's son. John 3:16
Who's Jesus' Father -------------e no hard na YHWH God.
Is Jesus YHWH, not possible!

Who's the Father, YHWH!
Who's YHWH, God and Father of Jesus Christ.

There's nothing for you to reveal.
If you want to reveal just do it in a post and let's examine it.
Good night!

Baba Good night. Don't be like the Jews that could not recognize Jehovah when he was among them. Remember Emmanuel... God is with us.
Yet they did not recognize that God was with them.
We cannot claim to be Jehovah's people and be ignorant of who he is.
About the Father, I would create a post.

cornelboy:
When it comes to that i don't take it as fun.

Yea, you prefer to be rude and condensing while I just want to be happy and have fun.

No need to create a post you'll say the Father is a state
I would rather refer to Jesus as God's only begotten son.

I stick to what the bible say.

tctrills:
Baba Good night. Don't be like the Jews that could not recognize Jehovah when he was among them. Remember Emmanuel... God is with us.
Yet they did not recognize that God was with them.
We cannot claim to be Jehovah's people and be ignorant of who he is.
About the Father, I would create a post.

cornelboy:
No need to create a post you'll say the Father is a state
I would rather refer to Jesus as God's only begotten son.

I stick to what the bible say.

My brother don't give in to the spirit of lies nah. I said God is a state not father.
Yes and stick to the bible that called Jesus Christ both God and Father in Isaiah 9.6
Stick to the bible that Called Jesus Christ Lord and God in Matthew 28.
And the bible when he told us he is I am in John 8.
Stick to the bible that declared ye are Gods.

Finally stick to the bible that taught against false witness. I never said the father is a state.

1 Corinthians 8:6
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.

The one God we have is the Father, you de hear?
When Jesus de pray to im Father in John 17:3, wetin e call Am? The only true God right?

Spirit of lies ke

We asked if Jesus was the Father, you said no.
You said God is a state, yet you admit that Jesus is a God (a state).
Who's the Father, you didn't respond.

Are saying Jesus is the Father too?

But the bible says the one God we have is the FATHER, isn't that true?

According to 1 Corinthians 15:24-28, who'll Jesus hand over the kingdom too?

According to revelation 21, who's coming to earth? A state abi not God?

tctrills:
My brother don't give in to the spirit of lies nah. I said God is a state not father.
Yes and stick to the bible that called Jesus Christ both God and Father in Isaiah 9.6
Stick to the bible that Called Jesus Christ Lord and God in Matthew 28.
And the bible when he told us he is I am in John 8.
Stick to the bible that declared ye are Gods.

Finally stick to the bible that taught against false witness. I never said the father is a state.

Revelation 21:3
[3]I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them.

God is no someone abi na state no problem.

Tctrills

Revelation 1:6
[6]He, Jesus has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father.


I'm looking forward to see who you'll say the Father is

tctrills:
Baba Good night. Don't be like the Jews that could not recognize Jehovah when he was among them. Remember Emmanuel... God is with us.
Yet they did not recognize that God was with them.
We cannot claim to be Jehovah's people and be ignorant of who he is.
About the Father, I would create a post.

OLÓDO!

Where are those who knew the identity of the father?
Jesus taught us that the whole world will see the mark of pure worship in the midst of those who knew his father {John 13:34-35} because the predominant quality of his father will work in their gathering! 1John 4:8

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have this quality in their midst and you can't present any better performing group, yet you're arguing blindly about the identity of the father whom you can't present His worshipers for everyone to see the qualities of this God in their midst!

We are all imperfect humans so individually our flaws will be noticed but as we come together in Jehovah's name all his qualities will be obvious in our gathering {Galatians 5:22-23} as a sign that it's the God WORKING in the midst of imperfect humans that we're seeing His qualities that's not possible for any other spirit to make it work elsewhere! Matthew 5:13-16

So present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses if you truly know Jesus' father.

ÒPÒNÚ!

cornelboy:
Revelations 1:6
[6]He, Jesus has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father.
I'm looking forward to see who you'll say the Father is

He is calling me names saying he's avoiding me ever since i told him point blank to his face that the INJECTION of truth is what's worrying him. Don't worry he's ashamed for now but he will still come back for you because he can't find a commentator on this forum that will make him feel his emptiness like JWs.
All of them will just come and hail one another after agreeing on what is not resolved but JWs will make sure that matters are set straight. 2Timothy 3:16-17
You can't say Jesus is Jehovah but not the father and expect a honest hearted individuals not to question you about the identity of the father whom Jesus said only those doing His will can be saved. Matthew 7:21-23