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Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 6:48pm On Feb 06, 2022
I like the way you twisted what he said.
Your words don't change anything bout me or my feelings. cool

achorladey:
I am cornelboy spokesman you know all this while. The post you responded to has the moniker cornelboy above it. grin grin grin

Your brother in Jehovah said post with this emoji grin means SADISTIC heart. It means you have a SADISTIC HEART niyen when I saw it in your post to.

The moment I told your brother in Jehovah that he has a SADISTIC heart since he use that emoji. He backed off into something else grin grin grin

E maa fi oro won ara yin wo now grin grin
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 6:49pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol. So according to 1 Corinthians 8:6 and John 17:3 the Father is just a God rotf lmao cheesy cheesy

God called some specific people God not us.

Which verse tells us that men called Gods can't be worship ie Moses in Exodus 7:1

The bible teaches that only the Father is GOD. He's only the one sitting on the throne in heaven grin

Who among the Gods did the bible say will dwell with man, man, Jesus or the Father cool
I am not sure I get you questions
Are you saying psalm 82.6 is not in the bible?
At different verses, different people have been called God. The key is to understand who that passage is referring to.
Most of the time in the old testament, it refers to Jesup Christ Jehovah. Other times it refers to our Heavenly Father. Do you understand?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 6:53pm On Feb 06, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=110011223][/quote]Jesus taught his followers to worship the father that is correct. His purpose is to direct us to his father. Still Jesus Chist was and is worshipped.
The wise men came to worship him.
The Apostles worshipped him.
Mary worshipped him.
All these accounts are in your bible
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:00pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
It's actually your eyes that's closed or blind!

CEV
We have only one God, and he is the Father. He created everything, and we live for him. Jesus Christ is our only Lord. Everything was made by him, and by him life was given to us.

NKJV
yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

If can't see that the only GOD we have is the Father, discussion closed!!
I Dont think you understand the verses you quoted. You should have quoted the whole thing to get understanding.can help you with it if you don't mind.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Paul acknowledged that there are more than one God but he pointed us to the Godhead. He is telling us that we can't be concern with the other Gods.
Hope that helps

But read also John 1.1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by NNTR: 7:01pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
The bible did not give us any difference between big G and Small G it's you opinion.
Rhema and the Spirit of Truth will give you the difference between big G and small g

tctrills:
And I gave my respect using Big G for God.
You also used the big G for human beings

tctrills:
I don't see a need for a small G
You will see a need for a small g, when you are referring to idols and human beings, because big G, is English language is exclusively used for the Godhead

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:02pm On Feb 06, 2022
achorladey:
When you are told to learn to read and follow discussion. You think na child's play. Now let me assist with how people reason.....

You can as well say I'm not a person grin
Look at the way Emusan used his words, He is not speculating anything.

You see your use of words..... it could..... be fake. You are in essence telling Emusan what he said is either true or false. You are introducing speculations and assumptions into it.

Yes it could be true or false. Your job was to confirm what he said not unnecessary comments grin
Since you know you are not the Lord that gives joy grin grin grin why are you assuming or speculating on what the Lord has already done. Why?

Lol using emojis in comments means the lord has given you joy grin i laugh in Hebrew.
Face discussion and learn. grin grin

Do you face discussion and learn? grin

I can decide to any emojis here and there, it doesn't have anything to do with my feelings ogbeni. I know your tactics wink

When i said I've had experience on using emojis on the internet, you certainly do understand what I meant grin
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
I actually figured this out myself. I knew the "angel of the lord" in the OT is Jesus not God himself. He's always been God representative.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm that makes you smarter than i was back then, perhaps it was due to my Muslim background because it took me more than two years to grasp that the angel was only representing Jehovah. I was confused until a brother quoted Exodus 13:21 & 14:19 and asked me the difference then i began to see that the angel was representing Jehovah and not Jehovah himself!
Please READ Genesis 18:1-8 and compare to Hebrews 13:2 smiley
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:07pm On Feb 06, 2022
NNTR:
Rhema and the Spirit of Truth will give you the difference between big G and small g

You also used the big G for human beings

You will see a need for a small g, when you are referring to idols and human beings, because big G, is English language is exclusively used for the Godhead

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
This is your personal opinion. The prophets that wrote the bible uses the same letter case all through. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Feb 06, 2022
I don't understand the verse. Your funny tctrills grin grin
Paul said there many Gods (man, Jesus, stone, silver etc) but to them they have only one GOD who's the Father.

Learn baba grin grin



tctrills:
I Dont think you understand the verses you quoted. You should have quoted the whole thing to get understanding.can help you with it if you don't mind.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Paul acknowledged that there are more than one God but he pointed us to the Godhead. He is telling us that we can't be concern with the other Gods.
Hope that helps

But read also John 1.1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:11pm On Feb 06, 2022
You mean the same kind of worship Yorubas render to their kings? Like bowing down to them or paying homage to them?

Is that what worshipping the Father in spirit and truth all about?
Learn ogbeni grin

tctrills:
Jesus taught his followers to worship the father that is correct. His purpose is to direct us to his father. Still Jesus Chist was and is worshipped.
The wise men came to worship him.
The Apostles worshipped him.
Mary worshipped him.
All these accounts are in your bible
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:13pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
I don't understand the verse. Your funny tctrills grin grin
Paul said there many Gods (man, Jesus, stone, silver etc) but to them they have only one GOD who's the Father.

Learn baba grin grin
Well the Apostle Thomas recognized Jesus as his Lord and God so did The Apostle John so clearly Paul was not saying what you think
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
I don't understand the verse. Your funny tctrills grin grin
Paul said there many Gods (man, Jesus, stone, silver etc) but to them they have only one GOD who's the Father.
Learn baba grin grin
The funny part in their arguments is how they rush to quote John 1:1 then trying to remove Jesus from other Gods when Paul said there are many Gods and Lords both in heaven and on earth!
If in the beginning a God was with God doesn't that makes two Gods?
Surely one is superior to the other, and when other Gods began existing through creation what makes them different from the first two Gods? Is it not because one is the father of all? 1Corinthians 8:5-6 cheesy
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:15pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
You mean the same kind of worship Yorubas render to their kings? Like bowing down to them or paying homage to them?

Is that what worshipping the Father in spirit and truth all about?
Learn ogbeni grin
Jesus Christ did not stop the 11 Apostle from worshipping him neither did he prevent the 2 marys from worshipping him. You obviously don't understand Pauls words
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:17pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Well the Apostle Thomas recognized Jesus as his Lord and God so did The Apostle John so clearly Paul was not saying what you think
Ògbéni, exclamation differs from declaration!

Thomas exclaimed in amazement and we all are used to such exclamation throughout the world.smiley
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:19pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I am not sure I get you questions
Are you saying psalm 82.6 is not in the bible?
At different verses, different people have been called God.

You can't understand it. Maybe you should read it again
The key is to understand who that passage is referring to.

Okay
Most of the time in the old testament, it refers to Jesup Christ Jehovah.

Abeg no let the Jews hear about this o
This is an assumption you haven't resolved cos you haven't told us who the Father is
Other times it refers to our Heavenly Father. Do you understand?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:21pm On Feb 06, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=110012504][/quote]I am not getting your question here. You have an issue with the Jews?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Jesus Christ did not stop the 11 Apostle from worshipping him neither did he prevent the 2 marys from worshipping him. You obviously don't understand Pauls words
They did OBEISANCE totally differs from WORSHIP! 1King 1:31
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:25pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I am not getting your question here. You have an issue with the Jews?
WHO'S THE FATHER!?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:27pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
WHO'S THE FATHER!?
I thought we agreed to discuss that when we are through with this.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by achorladey: 7:30pm On Feb 06, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=110011999][/quote]I don't have to go low towards name calling to prove a point grin grin

You can as well say I'm not a person
Na person dey behind the keyboard grin grin

Yes it could be true or false. Your job was to confirm what he said not unnecessary comments
Now he agreed to his speculations and assumptions grin grin Learn.

His statement need not confirmation in the first place which shows you are not happy that I am glad in the Lord grin grin

Here is Emusan point earlier below

Better, be glad in the Lord
You can see the reason why achorladey always shine his teeth now
But you rather join your brother in Jehovah to say it denotes SADISTIC HEART. grin grin. Where is your "it has nothing to do with my feelings" here now?

Learn.

Lol using emojis in comments means the lord has given you joy. Ilaugh in Hebrew.
You are not the one giving joy in the first place.

Do you face discussion and learn?
You know I do.

I can decide to any emojis here and there, it doesn't have anything to do with my feelings ogbeni. I know your tactics
No one holds you back on what you want to do with the emojis and you have learnt using emojis as it concerns your feelings but your contradictions here is seen in expressing your feelings about what another person said about the emojis grin grin

So how come e no concern you again? grin grin

When i said I've had experience on using emojis on the internet, you certainly do understand what I meant
When did you disclose that to me? Diversion tactics
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:31pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
WHO'S THE FATHER!?
I love your use of capital red. It shows you are following.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:32pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Well the Apostle Thomas recognized Jesus as his Lord and God so did The Apostle John so clearly Paul was not saying what you think
Does Jesus have a God and a Father? Is he equal to Him?

Didn't God made Moses a God unto Pharaoh? Is Moses equal to God?

Didn't God made Jesus both Lord and messiah? Is Jesus equal to God? Acts 2:36

Jesus is God, the Father is God, do we have two Gods not one?

Who's the Father?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:34pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I love your use of capital red. It shows you are following.
Mtcheew see you sha grin

Who's the Father?
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:37pm On Feb 06, 2022
Just say whatever you like ogbeni kola.
So assumption and speculation don turn sin Abi grin grin

You never make assumptions for you life huh
Comot here jare

achorladey:
I don't have to go low towards name calling to prove a point grin grin



Na person dey behind the keyboard grin grin



Now he agreed to his speculations and assumptions grin grin Learn.

His statement need not confirmation in the first place which shows you are not happy that I am glad in the Lord grin grin

Here is Emusan point earlier below



But you rather join your brother in Jehovah to say it denotes SADISTIC HEART. grin grin. Where is your "it has nothing to do with my feelings" here now?

Learn.



You are not the one giving joy in the first place.



You know I do.



No one holds you back on what you want to do with the emojis and you have learnt using emojis as it concerns your feelings but your contradictions here is seen in expressing your feelings about what another person said about the emojis grin grin

So how come e no concern you again? grin grin



When did you disclose that to me? Diversion tactics
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by achorladey: 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
I like the way you twisted what he said.
Your words don't change anything bout me or my feelings. cool
It is not meant to change anything about you or your feelings in the first place grin

Learn.

I like the way you twisted what he said.
Diversion tactics. Here it is again

The smiley covers a lot of sadistic hearts here
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
Mtcheew see you sha grin

Who's the Father?
Nna let's clear this up then open another post.
For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah.
All scripture point to that fact.
John recorded.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
This should clear your doubts
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I thought we agreed to discuss that when we are through with this.
Who's the Father doesn't require discussion!
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:39pm On Feb 06, 2022
You mean your learning right?
Na your mistranslations point to that

tctrills:
Nna let's clear this up then open another post.
For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah.
All scripture point to that fact.
John recorded.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
This should clear your doubts
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by tctrills: 7:41pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
You mean your learning right?
Na your mistranslations point to that
Well, I can't force you to accept the bible.
The Bible calls Jesus God and tells you he was worshipped.
Yet you doubt
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by NNTR: 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
WHO'S THE FATHER!?
tctrills:
I love your use of capital red. It shows you are following.
cornelboy:
Mtcheew see you sha grin

Who's the Father?
Count yourself lucky if he gets to give you an answer to that question, even if he does, what you'll probably get as a reply is 'It is your opinion that is the Father'

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by achorladey: 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2022
cornelboy:
Just say whatever you like ogbeni kola.
So assumption and speculation don turn sin Abi grin grin

You never make assumptions for you life huh
Comot here jare
Just say whatever you like ogbeni kola.
Nairaland give me the platform and airtime to do so already now. Thanks for the reminder but I have been doing that as well.

So assumption and speculation don turn sin Abi?
Changing goalpost to SIN grin

You never make assumptions for you life
Learn to face the discussion

Comot here jare
Na me waka come myself, na me go waka go back myself. grin grin

Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Nna let's clear this up then open another post.
For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah.
All scripture point to that fact.
John recorded.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
This should clear your doubts
Jesus already existed before Abraham existed, period!
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